Yes, except that DoTA2 is updated DoTA which is the original moba of which League of Legends is based off of.
Again, retard.
Again, retard.
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You know what's more retarded? That LoL x Dota2 war. Can't you guys just play both or the one you enjoy more and simply STFU?
Of course they are similar in some points, they are fuckin MOBA's, how 2 games with the same genre aren't suppose to have similarities?
Of course they are similar in some points, they are fuckin MOBA's, how 2 games with the same genre aren't suppose to have similarities?
What war? there is no war going on here. I'm just pointing out to Two how retarded he is.
The point being made is that one was inspired by the original DotA and the other is quite literally a remake of it. Accusing the remake of copying the game inspired by the original that the remake is a remake of... is silly.Gaba wrote:
Of course they are similar in some points, they are fuckin MOBA's, how 2 games with the same genre aren't suppose to have similarities?
LoL shouldn't even exist. simple as thatWolfn wrote:
The point being made is that one was inspired by the original DotA and the other is quite literally a remake of it. Accusing the remake of copying the game inspired by the original that the remake is a remake of... is silly.Gaba wrote:
Of course they are similar in some points, they are fuckin MOBA's, how 2 games with the same genre aren't suppose to have similarities?
LoL isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, but I personally prefer HoN and DotA 2. I couldn't get into the original DotA due to the inconveniences that come with it (like hotkeys, for starters.) But after playing HoN, it's easy to transition to DotA 2 and find heroes similar to ones I played in HoN.
Speaking of which, I want Bristleback.
Speaking of which, I want Bristleback.
there is no rice factor in lol. the map is significantly smaller. heroes spells (which are all ridiculously similiar to eachother, eg some sort of leap, a bonus attack, etc) are all mainly teamplay focused, and are simply casted asap and require no real level of timing or planning to execute well. dota and hon (which are making some truelly sexy and original heroes atm) have much more dynamic play and a MUCH higher skill cap. ps bristleback is awesome
Someone told me Bristleback would be one of the last heroes to be readmitted into DotA 2. I cried.
damage enemy
debuff enemy
heal ally/self
buff ally/self
move self
move enemy
if a skill does something that is not on the list above, it is instantly "unique" "amazing" "innovative"
debuff enemy
heal ally/self
buff ally/self
move self
move enemy
if a skill does something that is not on the list above, it is instantly "unique" "amazing" "innovative"
too bad AoS never got a sequel.
Is hon free yet?
Is hon free yet?
if LoL has a sort of hero design like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TGFUgBFt_s please do tell me
Many champions have push/pull skills...admittedly, there aren't any champions that have it as their entire purpose, but his skill set seems like Lee's second E + Vayne E / Blitz Q in one + dat passive + global Orianna ult
yesziin wrote:
too bad AoS never got a sequel.
Is hon free yet?
With my little knowledge to this subject, it's hard for me to understand Blizzard's point. I thought WCIII is more of a tool to the creation of DotA and the credit would go to who developed the map DotA. It almost sounds like Adobe criticizing the artist who used Photoshop to create a drawing.
Question, isn't IceFrog working for Valve right now for DotA 2?
Question, isn't IceFrog working for Valve right now for DotA 2?
Mercurial
That's exactly what it is. I think Blizzard is just out to piss people off now.bmin11 wrote:
It almost sounds like Adobe criticizing the artist who used Photoshop to create a drawing.
..icefrom?iMercurial wrote:
In this moment, IceFrom is working for himself on Warcraft III: DotA and for Valve on DotA 2.bmin11 wrote:
Question, isn't IceFrog working for Valve right now for DotA 2?
Inb4 my Avatar ♥
actually its a lot different to that photoshop reference, you see in dota heroes like Rexxar (beastmaster) and lich are both original names from wc3 so im sure blizz has a case thereWolfn wrote:
That's exactly what it is. I think Blizzard is just out to piss people off now.bmin11 wrote:
It almost sounds like Adobe criticizing the artist who used Photoshop to create a drawing.
Lich isn't an orginal name. If they used lich's hero name Kel'Thuzard then it would've been a problem, but there is nothing about Lich. ANd DoTA2 doesn't use the name rexxar, he's just simply beastmaster
Also, all this is about, from my low knowledge of this kind of stuff and what I've read, is Blizzard is opposing trademarking and that all. They are not trying to get the name DoTA for themselves. Just means Blizzard and anyone else would be able to name their game 'DoTA'.
just wondering when you get dota 2 do you create an account name or does your username become whatever your steam account is? i dont know because ive never played any game on steam
its your steam name
how can you even say "anyone else" would be able to name their game that when the very basis of them contesting it is that they are the only ones with the right toyeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
Just means Blizzard and anyone else would be able to name their game 'DoTA'.
good lord
I heard Techies would be one of the last heroes. Haha, I really want to hear their voice ("muahahahaha" or if he gets a rune).Wolfn wrote:
Someone told me Bristleback would be one of the last heroes to be readmitted into DotA 2. I cried.
Well they can still surprise us. I didn't see lasts week "Outworld Destroyer" release coming, so basically every hero could be next ^^
Some heroes will take longer though, as they have to invent a whole new model because the one of the original was very WC3 orientated (like ES or Bara [and Tech maybe])
Some heroes will take longer though, as they have to invent a whole new model because the one of the original was very WC3 orientated (like ES or Bara [and Tech maybe])
It's actually quite surprising how Bara looks so similar to the WCIII version, but I guess only little could have been done.
techies ruins the game by either:
1. being a complete deadweight on the team not doing shit excvept planting some mines getting a few novelty kills
2. surviving till late game with substantial farm being able to shut down ANY push and prolong a game far beyond what it should be, usually winning it for the team because of how broken stasis are
1. being a complete deadweight on the team not doing shit excvept planting some mines getting a few novelty kills
2. surviving till late game with substantial farm being able to shut down ANY push and prolong a game far beyond what it should be, usually winning it for the team because of how broken stasis are
I heard something about bane being implemented today. Let's wait some hours ...
Every hero can fail so if played by a noob. I have already seen CM carrying (it failed ofc).Mikey wrote:
techies ruins the game by either:
1. being a complete deadweight on the team not doing shit excvept planting some mines getting a few novelty kills
Get a gem/necronomicon?Mikey wrote:
2. surviving till late game with substantial farm being able to shut down ANY push and prolong a game far beyond what it should be, usually winning it for the team because of how broken stasis are
Update: Bane implemented now \o/ --> http://blog.dota2.com/
how is a gem gonna stop a 600 (?) burst damage aoe + random stasis during fights that need to be focusesd down in order to be prevented?Tshemmp wrote:
Every hero can fail so if played by a noob. I have already seen CM carrying (it failed ofc).Mikey wrote:
techies ruins the game by either:
1. being a complete deadweight on the team not doing shit excvept planting some mines getting a few novelty killsGet a gem/necronomicon?Mikey wrote:
2. surviving till late game with substantial farm being able to shut down ANY push and prolong a game far beyond what it should be, usually winning it for the team because of how broken stasis are
You have creeps/ranged heroes (if you don't play a terrible pub) on your side. They can destroy mines with one hit. I don't see a problem here.
And scouting/warding is very effective, too. You will know where Techies has his mines and where NOT to go. Yes, you can use your brain. You don't really HAVE to run in his traps.
And scouting/warding is very effective, too. You will know where Techies has his mines and where NOT to go. Yes, you can use your brain. You don't really HAVE to run in his traps.
Techies has mines on his barracks towers + barracks.
You kind of have to go there.
You kind of have to go there.
no im saying a techies can simply drop a remote mine and det it instant killing every single creep and nullifying any attempts at a pushTshemmp wrote:
You have creeps/ranged heroes (if you don't play a terrible pub) on your side. They can destroy mines with one hit. I don't see a problem here.
And scouting/warding is very effective, too. You will know where Techies has his mines and where NOT to go. Yes, you can use your brain. You don't really HAVE to run in his traps.
So if Techies is so imba why is he NEVER picked in high-level gameplay?
I rather to play osu than dota2 because it make my laptop lag... 
No beta keys for River fans, sorry mate.
Send me a PM for anyone who'd like to play with me, I'll give him my steam ID.
Oh also, does anyone actively follow the pro scene here? Would be cool to discuss it with sb, my favorite team are
-Na^Vi
-Ex-Ehome '10 '11
-CLG (because of Loda & Pajkatt <3)
-Darer, although they've been doing not very well, I guess they still have to improve their team alchemy, but they will become a high tier soon
as Artstyle & God are just too awesome
(Still waiting for the chinese to join DotA 2, this will change a lot in the proscene - <3 LGD, iG, DK !)
Would also like it if more heroes are added faster, will change the metagame and I'd like to play a lot more new heroes in DotA 2 than the currently available ones
PS : I play DotA 2 24/7 so if you want somebody to play with all the time ... xD
Oh also, does anyone actively follow the pro scene here? Would be cool to discuss it with sb, my favorite team are
-Na^Vi
-Ex-Ehome '10 '11
-CLG (because of Loda & Pajkatt <3)
-Darer, although they've been doing not very well, I guess they still have to improve their team alchemy, but they will become a high tier soon
as Artstyle & God are just too awesome
(Still waiting for the chinese to join DotA 2, this will change a lot in the proscene - <3 LGD, iG, DK !)
Would also like it if more heroes are added faster, will change the metagame and I'd like to play a lot more new heroes in DotA 2 than the currently available ones
PS : I play DotA 2 24/7 so if you want somebody to play with all the time ... xD
I kinda suck at dota 2 (ok i'm decent) but i've been rather addicted lately.
I also got 2 new invites so if anyone is interested shoot me a PM maybe i'll toss you an invite.
I also got 2 new invites so if anyone is interested shoot me a PM maybe i'll toss you an invite.
I got this recently, but I am absolutely new.
Took me three CPU games to figure out you buy items by right clicking, not left clicking >.<
Also, how do you deny (correct term, right?) your own creeps?
I right click them, but I don't kill them.
Took me three CPU games to figure out you buy items by right clicking, not left clicking >.<
Also, how do you deny (correct term, right?) your own creeps?
I right click them, but I don't kill them.
You have to press A (Attack) manually and then left click on a creep, if he has more than 50% hp it won't work
NoHItter playing DotA? oh GodNoHItter wrote:
I got this recently, but I am absolutely new.
Took me three CPU games to figure out you buy items by right clicking, not left clicking >.<
Also, how do you deny (correct term, right?) your own creeps?
I right click them, but I don't kill them.
I really like SingSing, not as a player only, but as a person. His stream is worth watching just because of his comments on the playstyle of othersMagicphoenix wrote:
Oh also, does anyone actively follow the pro scene here?
Therefore i like mousesports play, but i also fallow the others a bit.btw did you watch Mousesports vs Evil Geniuses? Best game of the year imo ^^
We can go a few games if you want.Magicphoenix wrote:
PS : I play DotA 2 24/7 so if you want somebody to play with all the time ... xD
me playing pub with noobs on my team. the other team took our mid racks and we somehow managed to come back and wipe them and win it...
also my Dota 2 keys have been given out, sorry if you PM'd me and didn't get one. I had plenty of people message me about this.
also my Dota 2 keys have been given out, sorry if you PM'd me and didn't get one. I had plenty of people message me about this.
Wow, 1 hour long game. Is this common occurence?
SPOILER
foulcoon wrote:
me playing pub with noobs on my team. the other team took our mid racks and we somehow managed to come back and wipe them and win it...
also my Dota 2 keys have been given out, sorry if you PM'd me and didn't get one. I had plenty of people message me about this.
Ugh.. those builds
@Faust: no, my pub games are typically around 45 minutes but a close game can end up that long.
@Fabi: yeah they're pretty bad. Even my viper build was bad, the mjolnir i didnt really need but as i was starting my assault cuirass sven decided to buy one, and rather than waste my hyperstone i got it for the shock effect. It actually turned out very well as we easily wiped the enemy team in their base when i used it with manta, and my mkb bash went off a lot lol. To be honest, I should have skipped assault cuirass to begin with and went with butterfly, but my team was really bad so I felt like we needed the attack speed and armor orb.
EDIT: also as far as my build goes, I will say that it was fun having more attack speed than usual on viper. Everyone melted so fast when i used my manta style
@Fabi: yeah they're pretty bad. Even my viper build was bad, the mjolnir i didnt really need but as i was starting my assault cuirass sven decided to buy one, and rather than waste my hyperstone i got it for the shock effect. It actually turned out very well as we easily wiped the enemy team in their base when i used it with manta, and my mkb bash went off a lot lol. To be honest, I should have skipped assault cuirass to begin with and went with butterfly, but my team was really bad so I felt like we needed the attack speed and armor orb.
EDIT: also as far as my build goes, I will say that it was fun having more attack speed than usual on viper. Everyone melted so fast when i used my manta style
Man, that was crazy. I've never seen a game like that. Even gold differences with a huge KD differences.Shadoras wrote:
btw did you watch Mousesports vs Evil Geniuses? Best game of the year imo ^^
wow they gave me two invites 5 days ago and now two more again today o.o
...and they've given me none. Send me an invite mate. Vish024 is my steam.
Quite a lot answers in a short time, might as well ask :
Your favorite heroes ?
Mine are Invoker, Butcher, Balanar, Potm & Visage
Runner Ups would be Puck, N'aix & Shadow Fiend
Pretty much those who go into the mid lane and then do the impact to the game
Your favorite heroes ?
Mine are Invoker, Butcher, Balanar, Potm & Visage
Runner Ups would be Puck, N'aix & Shadow Fiend
Pretty much those who go into the mid lane and then do the impact to the game
Invoker, Bane, CM, Spectre and Lanaya who isn't implemented yet unfortunately ...
But it depends on enemypicks usually. Also, do NOT pick riki after gondar or slardar >.<
btw, what do you guys think about the new heroes (xin, rizzrak, legion commander and skymage)?
But it depends on enemypicks usually. Also, do NOT pick riki after gondar or slardar >.<
btw, what do you guys think about the new heroes (xin, rizzrak, legion commander and skymage)?
Sand King, Viper, and Dazzle are probably my favorites to play
Honorable mention to Witch Doctor and Juggernaut who I haven't played much, but were both pretty fun.
Honorable mention to Witch Doctor and Juggernaut who I haven't played much, but were both pretty fun.
well shit, finally got an invite to the beta but the game keeps crashing on valve logo, gg
OTLGlass wrote:
well shit, finally got an invite to the beta but the game keeps crashing on valve logo, gg
Might want to try this, http://puu.sh/mNe7
Otherwise wait until tomorrow evening till new patch is out and try reinstall
Crashed midgame, and didn't get an option to reconnect
already tried that ;[Magicphoenix wrote:
OTLGlass wrote:
well shit, finally got an invite to the beta but the game keeps crashing on valve logo, gg
Might want to try this, http://puu.sh/mNe7
Otherwise wait until tomorrow evening till new patch is out and try reinstall
they broke shit... my recipe for assault cuiras wouldnt complete itself, and the courier will not retrieve items for me. i have to manually drop them and pick them up... so weird... all other courier commands work aside from transfer items
So, White Wolf plays DotA 2?
are you sure that you're clicking transfer items? They changes the button/hotkeys around, so shits different (again). idk why they can't leave it T_Tfoulcoon wrote:
they broke shit... my recipe for assault cuiras wouldnt complete itself, and the courier will not retrieve items for me. i have to manually drop them and pick them up... so weird... all other courier commands work aside from transfer items
I still don't understand why I have no keys to give away, I've been in the beta since it started. Is there any reason for that?
Edit: Also Glass, have you tried installing Dota2 from a different steam client? I read on the forums that doing that solved crashing problems for some people.
Edit: Also Glass, have you tried installing Dota2 from a different steam client? I read on the forums that doing that solved crashing problems for some people.
how many hours have you played? maybe it has something to do with that, dunnoSoulclenz wrote:
I still don't understand why I have no keys to give away, I've been in the beta since it started. Is there any reason for that?
Edit: Also Glass, have you tried installing Dota2 from a different steam client? I read on the forums that doing that solved crashing problems for some people.
It should, but its weird. I have 800 hours and I haven't gotten my 2 extra, but people who have <300 do T_TMikey wrote:
how many hours have you played? maybe it has something to do with that, dunnoSoulclenz wrote:
I still don't understand why I have no keys to give away, I've been in the beta since it started. Is there any reason for that?
Edit: Also Glass, have you tried installing Dota2 from a different steam client? I read on the forums that doing that solved crashing problems for some people.
You get 2 beta keys extra if you were chosen in the DotA2-Steam survey, if you were selected by some kind of lottery/invited by a friend you don't !
Ah ok, that would explain it then. I didn't think about that.Magicphoenix wrote:
You get 2 beta keys extra if you were chosen in the DotA2-Steam survey, if you were selected by some kind of lottery/invited by a friend you don't !
hmm nope i was invited by a friend, and have received 4 extra so..Magicphoenix wrote:
You get 2 beta keys extra if you were chosen in the DotA2-Steam survey, if you were selected by some kind of lottery/invited by a friend you don't !
nice carry
man that clan must be shit.
man that clan must be shit.
Mercurial
If you mean his animations, yeah - his razes are a lot slower, his arm takes longer to swing and in DotA 2 you are unable to cancel spells after an animation.
Meaning - With Maiden/Lina you did a spell in DotA 1 which swings forever, that's why you move right after the spell to cancel the animation and do your next attack faster. In DotA 2 it got fixed, that's why DotA 2 Shadow Fiends razes are slower !
Meaning - With Maiden/Lina you did a spell in DotA 1 which swings forever, that's why you move right after the spell to cancel the animation and do your next attack faster. In DotA 2 it got fixed, that's why DotA 2 Shadow Fiends razes are slower !
what? you can cancel animation perfectly fine in DoTA2Magicphoenix wrote:
If you mean his animations, yeah - his razes are a lot slower, his arm takes longer to swing and in DotA 2 you are unable to cancel spells after an animation.
Meaning - With Maiden/Lina you did a spell in DotA 1 which swings forever, that's why you move right after the spell to cancel the animation and do your next attack faster. In DotA 2 it got fixed, that's why DotA 2 Shadow Fiends razes are slower !
I think I put it in the wrong way.
If you are familiar with DotA / WC 3 you know that after - for example - Lina casts any spell, the spell comes instantly but the arm still swings in the air after the spell for like 1 more second. In that time you do absolutely nothing but watch her after the spell, unless you make her do an action right after the spell so she would cancel the arm-forward animation.
tl;dr?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4sPeMQ01s
If you are familiar with DotA / WC 3 you know that after - for example - Lina casts any spell, the spell comes instantly but the arm still swings in the air after the spell for like 1 more second. In that time you do absolutely nothing but watch her after the spell, unless you make her do an action right after the spell so she would cancel the arm-forward animation.
tl;dr?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4sPeMQ01s
yeah I know what you're talking about. You can do it in DoTA2 o.OMagicphoenix wrote:
I think I put it in the wrong way.
If you are familiar with DotA / WC 3 you know that after - for example - Lina casts any spell, the spell comes instantly but the arm still swings in the air after the spell for like 1 more second. In that time you do absolutely nothing but watch her after the spell, unless you make her do an action right after the spell so she would cancel the arm-forward animation.
tl;dr?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4sPeMQ01s
It doesn't even exist in DotA 2
I have the feeling animations are very poor in DOTA 2 in general. For example Viper's attack animation: He is just standing around and out of nowhere a attack missile comes out of him. This is the only thing I really don't like about DOTA 2. Animations were so much more detailed in DotA Allstars.
His mouth opens and jolts forward before he spits his attack. I wouldn't say DotA animations are more detailed than DotA2 at all.Tshemmp wrote:
I have the feeling animations are very poor in DOTA 2 in general. For example Viper's attack animation: He is just standing around and out of nowhere a attack missile comes out of him. This is the only thing I really don't like about DOTA 2. Animations were so much more detailed in DotA Allstars.
Well, ofcourse there is a little animation, but compared to DotA it is nothing.
Perhaps. Valve isn't going to get it 100% replicated, I wouldn't expect them to.Tshemmp wrote:
Well, ofcourse there is a little animation, but compared to DotA it is nothing.
Very nice game. Our opponent destroyed already 2 lanes but we turned it around and won after 87 mins.
Seriously wtf are you talking about, it does exist in DOTA 2, and yes you did put it in a wrong way, it's called (casting) backswing. The reason it's not as noticable as it is on some heroes is because DotA and DOTA 2 do not have the exact same cosmetic animation.Magicphoenix wrote:
It doesn't even exist in DotA 2
It's just like how auto-attacks are much better in DOTA 2 than they are in DotA, the mechanics are slightly different, but that is because the source engine is different from the WC3 one.
Indeed Vipers attack animation is very small, there are several complaints about it --> http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=14722.Tshemmp wrote:
I have the feeling animations are very poor in DOTA 2 in general. For example Viper's attack animation: He is just standing around and out of nowhere a attack missile comes out of him. This is the only thing I really don't like about DOTA 2. Animations were so much more detailed in DotA Allstars.
However, i would not say that the animations are poor in general. Just look at SF or CM ult, simply gorgeous (if you wanna watch them in a fight). I do not care much about the animations if the game is stable and balanced (it's still in closed beta!).
@Gabi
Maybe I've gotten used to it so i never noticed it at all :p I was just thinking about it since DotA 2 should and does have a way better mechanic.
Also : Jeremy Lin, my hero !
Maybe I've gotten used to it so i never noticed it at all :p I was just thinking about it since DotA 2 should and does have a way better mechanic.
Also : Jeremy Lin, my hero !
Dendi is best
lmfao
lmfao
Yeah, saw that ! Loving Dendi <3
Dendi carry ES might have been the best thing I've ever seen.
needs 6 battle fury gondar
or 6 divine rapier anti-mage
lol
or 6 divine rapier anti-mage
lol
^LINK from Quantic Gaming did this on one of his streams 
AM with 6 divines, or was it XBOCT? (or maybe even Dendi ? ._.)
Was an awesome game anyways
AM with 6 divines, or was it XBOCT? (or maybe even Dendi ? ._.)Was an awesome game anyways
k, reinstalled this shit for like the 8th time today and it still crashes after valve logo, fuck this.
Crash as in an exception occurs or do you just lag out.Glass wrote:
k, reinstalled this shit for like the 8th time today and it still crashes after valve logo, fuck this.
the game just closes itself with no notificationNyquill wrote:
Crash as in an exception occurs or do you just lag out.
I was mid against VS lol...
even with fail LH still destroyed his farm.
just spectated this... was laughing pretty hard lol
one boot per "foot" on crixalis the guy was saying.