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MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size)

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Topic Starter
Leeg
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on viernes, 01 de enero de 2010 at 18:38:43

Artist: MELL
Title: Red Fraction (TV Size)
Source: Black Lagoon
Tags: opening advanceboy shinde
BPM: 142
Filesize: 6484kb
Play Time: 01:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. AdvanceBoy's Insane (4,84 stars, 183 notes)
  2. Hard (4,79 stars, 155 notes)
  3. Normal (3,95 stars, 103 notes)
  4. Shinde Style (4,91 stars, 171 notes)
Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size)
Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Updated 1-1-2010
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Agradecimientos especiales a Advanceboy :D
Special thanks to Advanceboy :D
CheeseWarlock
Timing! Wasn't as bad as I thought it was at first.
BPM: 142.00
Offset: 13,924

Now you're going to have to make sure everything's in order with the new timing in place, and make sure you're using Distance Snap! Also, add a background when you can; it's a requirement for ranking.
Topic Starter
Leeg
It has a Video-background... but if you say so, i will add a background-image... and about the timing, I dont understand what do you mean with "make sure everything's in order" ... should i change bpm to 140 and offset to 13,924?and then? something else O_O?
-SiN-
omg, re-snap again plz :(
Topic Starter
Leeg
better now?
AgentSieg
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Leeg
Muchas gracias por toda la información ^^.

Lo del auto snap si lo utilice, porque me dijeron que me seria util al haber cambiado el offset y el timing ligermante... y despues coji la cancion y la esuche entera a 50% y modifique algunos que no coincidian, pero mas o menos creo que ya coinciden la mayoria.. ¿no?

Y lo del distance snap... a veces no me gusta usarlo porque quiero poner dos notas apegadas y no deja... :S

Gracias de nuevo por todo ^^

PD: lo de las estrellas y kudous creo que ya lo entiendo ;)
AgentSieg
A ver, ahora que los has recolocado:
00:18:04 (3,4) - 1/4 para atrás.
00:19:20 (3,4,5) - 1/4 para adelante
00:23:32 (4) - 1/4 para atrás
00:23:53 (x) - Aquí añade una nota más
00:35:05 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 1/4 para adelante
00:37:90 (1,1) - 1/4 para atrás
00:39:38 (1) - 1/4 para adelante. Acortalo un 1/4.
00:41:38 (1,2) - 1/4 para adelante.
00:44:55 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 1/4 para adelante
00:50:15 (9) - 1/4 >>>
00:51:21 (1) - 1/4 <<<
00:56:17 (x) - Coloca una nota más aquí
00:56:38 (7) - Corrige la posición espacial de esta (usa distance snap, ya que la distancia no es correcta)
00:57:23 (10) - 1/4 >>>
01:02:72 (4) - 1/4 >>>
01:02:93 (5) - 1/4 <<<


Cuando lo hagas, vuelve a aplicar distance snap sobre TODO el mapa ya que habrán cambiado las distancias.
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ya está, acabo de subirlo con todas las modificaciones :D (se agradece el empleo de >>> o <<< en vez de adelante o atras XD)


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It's ready :D, i 've just uploaded it with all the modifications.
AdvanceBoy
Hmmm... Algunas partes son bastante confusas...(tambien me parese una cancion algo complicada para un novato, pero... nah, que importa :D )

Ambas Dificultades:

Por favor, usa el Distace Snap todo el tiempo que puedas,ya que es inutil colocar aqui todas las discrepancias en el espacio, las unicas partes en las que lo lo puedes usar es cuando superpones beats (como dijo Sieg :D) por el resto del tiempo, procura que todo el beatmap tenga un mismo espacio, te sujiero que vallas arreglando los beats (todos) haciendoles click teniendo el Distance Snap activado, los arreglara automaticamente, al hacer esto...

Normal:

Te sujiero que te limites al Beat Snap Divisor 1/6, con eso las notas quedarian bien puestas, amenos que estes 1675800% seguro que esa nota va con el Beat Snap Divisor 1/8
Tambien añade hitsounds en algunas partes para darle un efecto especial a los beats y para darle mas ritmo a la cancion

Ok, vamos a usar la misma simbologuia que Sieg :P

00:15:29: (5) >>> al tick rojo
00:15:71: (6) ^ (como arriba)
00:16:14: (8) ^
00:16:77: (10) <<< al tick rojo o hazlo un slider que valla desde 00:16:77 a 00:17:09
00:17:40: (1) >>> al tick rojo
00:18:88: (2) >>> al tick blanco
00:19:73: (4) <<< al tick rojo
00:19:94: (5) <<< al tick blanco
00:20:05: (x) añade una nota aqui
00:23:43: (x) ^
00:23:53: (6) >>> al tick blanco o eliminalo
00:24:27: (6) combo nuevo? :|
00:25:89: (12) >>> al tick rojo
00:26:10: (13)>>> al tick blanco o solo eliminalo ;)
00:27:02: (x) añede una nota aqui? :|
00:34:52: (2) >>> al tick blanco
00:35:58: (5) >>> al tick rojo
00:36:00: (6,7,8,9) >>> todos hasta que quede (9) en el tick blanco

Aw... me fastidie :P , supongo que ya me agarraste la idea verdad?

Hard:

Ok, el principal problema aqui es..... OMG!!! es igual que Normal!? solo que, con beats mas pequeños!? ¬_¬...
Ahora encerio, haz otra dificultad que sea DIFERENTE a la otra, añade mas beats, si quieres dejale la dificultad y el tamaño de los beat que tiene, pero, hazla que sea en verdad mas dificil ;)
Topic Starter
Leeg
Mas para modificar? Loooooool XDDD

Le echare un vistazo, gracias.


PD: El mod hard es el que hice, en todo caso cambiare el normal ^_^


PD2: Ya he metido los cambios.

++++

Changes done.
AdvanceBoy
Ehh.....

1. gracias por el kudo :D

2. Repito, usa el Distance Snap! arregla los beats (todos) haciendoles click teniendo el Distance Snap activado, los arreglara automaticamente, de lo contrario, el beatmap no podra ser Ranked!

2º Parte:(ya que no captaste la idea :( )

00:37:90: (1) <<< al tick rojo
00:38:64: (1) ^
00:39:48: (1) termina en el tick rojo (00:39:90)
00:41:07: >>> al tick rojo
00:42:86: (5) hmm.... que quede algo asi


00:44:55: (6) combo nuevo? :|
00:57:76: (1) empieza en 00:57:86 (tick blanco)
00:57:33: (10) >>> al tick blanco
01:01:98: (x) si sigues el estilo que llevavas antes, deberias poner una nota aqui
01:03:14: (6) <<< al tick blanco
01:04:62: (x) si sigues el estilo que llevavas antes, deberias poner una nota aqui
01:06:21: (17,18) >>> al tick blanco
01:07:90: (1) empieza en 01:08:00 y termina 01:09:27
01:09:48: (1) empieza en 01:09:69 y termina 01:10:96
01:11:70: (3) <<< al tick rojo
01:11:91: (4) >>> al tick rojo
01:12:12: (5) >>> al tick blanco
01:14:66: (1) hmmm.... creo que se oiria mucho mejor si empesara en 01:13:28 y terminara en 01:14:76
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ya he cambiado todo lo que has dicho y he movido las notas segun el distance snap.

Mañana haré el nivel NORMAL.
Topic Starter
Leeg
Added New Normal mode. Test it if you can and tell me if it's correctly made :D
Also, i added in two modes a wav-bullet noise in some beats.
AdvanceBoy
Ok, ya probe Normal, me parese que es todavia demasiado paresido a Hard y en algunas partes todavia no concuerda

Ambas dificultades:
(ahora si)

Deverias agragar mas sliders, creo que le faltan bastantes la beatmap (donde, a jucio tuyo) , usa los demas hitsounds ademas del custom de las balas, y como sienpre, distribuye el espacio lo mas correcto que puedas, con el distance snap, que rayos te pasa? le tienes miedo o que?

Primero, Hard:

00:18:88 (2) - adelantalo al tick blanco
00:20:89 (7) - borra ese slider y haz otro igual que empieze en 00:20:89 y termine en 00:21:74 (se que es asi como lo tienes, pero por alguna razon ese slider se oye terriblementa mal, talvez un bug? :|
00:24:06 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - *matas a todo el mundo* como que en esa parte medio exajeraste el sonido de las balas, no crees?
00:40:12 (2) - exajeradamente separado de (1)
00:41:07 (3) - adelantalo al tick rojo
00:41:38 (1,2,3,4) - es una parte interesante, pon (2) en 00:41:81 y (3) en 00:42:16 creo que asi se escucha mejor :?
00:42:86 (5) - obviamente incorrecto, empieza en 00:42:86 (como lo tienes ahorita) reverse arrow en 00:43:07, 00:43:28, 00:43:50, 00:43:71, 00:43:92 y termina en 00:44:13 (acortalo un poco para que encaje asi ;) )
00:44:55 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - *vuelves a matar a todo el mundo* creeme, no se oye para nada bien
00:57:76 (1) - empieza en 00:57:86 y termina en 00:59:97?
01:02:93 (x) - pon una nota aqui entonses...
01:03:67 (6) tick blanco
01:03:78 (6) - 01:03:88
01:03:99 (x) agregar nota aqui, entonses...
01:04:09 (7) - 01:03:99
01:04:09 (x) - agregar nota aqui, entonses...
01:06:21 (15) - al tick blanco
01:06:63 (16) - retroseder al tick rojo
01:09:48 (1) - ruedalo a tick blanco (01:09:69)
01:13:28 - (x?) haz como hiciste en Normal con los Spiners

Normal:

Damn... tengo mucho sueño, continuo mañana.

*AQUI IRA EL MOD DE NORMAL* ( o bien, en otro post ;) )
Topic Starter
Leeg
Muchas gracias por seguir ayudandome ^^ Eternamente agradecido.

Unas cuantas cosas sobre lo que me has dicho

1- El slider ese que dices que oyes mal, a mi se me escucha perfecto O_O'
2- ¿Miedo al distance snap? He repasado el mapa 2 veces con eso activado moviendo todas las notas para que se imantaran O_O...
3-Lo de las balas... me gusta asi ¬¬' xD


Por cierto, ahora hay un sitio que de poner tantas notas como me has dicho que pusiera ha quedado horrible XD
al rededor de 1:03:667 :D

Venga, muchas gracias enserio tio, ahora subo el modo hard actualizado :D
AdvanceBoy

Leeg wrote:

Muchas gracias por seguir ayudandome ^^ Eternamente agradecido.
Yo eternamente agradecido por el monton de kudos que me estas ando XD

Leeg wrote:

1- El slider ese que dices que oyes mal, a mi se me escucha perfecto O_O'
:| como quiereas, es tu beatmap, no el mio

Leeg wrote:

2- ¿Miedo al distance snap? He repasado el mapa 2 veces con eso activado moviendo todas las notas para que se imantaran O_O...
0_o que raro, cuando yo lo hago queda totalmente diferente a como tu lo tienes

Leeg wrote:

3-Lo de las balas... me gusta asi ¬¬' xD
LOL

Leeg wrote:

Por cierto, ahora hay un sitio que de poner tantas notas como me has dicho que pusiera ha quedado horrible XD
al rededor de 1:03:667 :D
Lol, un poco cierto, :( no se como hacer que esa parte se oiga mejor :? que tal si pones una nota en 01:03:99?

Creo que seria mejor que lo pusieras por ahora en "Beatmap Help" hasta que quede bien ;)

Bien, aqui esta el mod:

Ambas Dificultades:

Mismas sujerencias que antes, y.... lol, ahora que lo veo, suena mejor con Offset 13.104 (como a CheeseWarlock se le pudo pasar eso?) (luego recuerda darle a "Resnap All Notes")

Normal:

00:15:50 (6) - espera un momento, eso es un Slider!? como rayos lo pidiste poner asi!? lol borralo un pon el beat en 00:15:61
00:18:57 (1) - No crees que suen mejor si empieza en 00:19:41, Reverse Arrow en 00:19:83 y termina en 00:20:26? ah, y luego pon una nota en 00:18:99 para uqe no quede vacio ;)
00:24:17 (4) - empieza en 00:24:06, Reverse Arrow en 00:25:54 y termina en 00:27:02
00:40:12 (2) - *como en Hard antes* ridiculamente lejos de (1)
00:41:91 (2) - no esta mal colocada, pero creo que seria mejor que la pusieras en 00:42:44 para uqe sea mas intuitivo darle
00:42:86 (3) - los Reverse Arrow en los ticks blancos, rojo, blanco ,rojo... you got it?
00:47:72 (1) - ridiculamante lejos del slider
00:51:74 (2,4,3) - como pusiste 3 beats en ese espacio? 0_o es uno en 00:51:74 y otro (si seguimos la secuencia que llevavas antes) en 00:51:95
*Creo que no deverias agregar combos rapidos en Normal, osea, es Normal, se supone que deve ser mas facil*
01:02:72 (1,2,3,4,5) - esa parte es mi mortal enemiga... xD la verdad, no se decirte si esta bien o mal...

Bien :) el beatmap, poco a poco, esta tomando forma ;)
Topic Starter
Leeg
Oks, mas o menos ya he arreglado todo lo que me has dicho, salvo algun slider que me ha parecido algo dificil cambiarlo y en mi opinion como estaba quedaba bien O_O

PD: esa parte del final yo si me la hago xDD donde es chungo es en Hard. xDD
AdvanceBoy
Lol, esto se esta volviendo rutinario...

Esta vez me ahorrare el hecho de andar escribiendo tanto e ire directo la grano. Aqui esta una version que contiene todas mis modificaciones, aunque si hay algo que no te gusta (como como coloque las notas o la distancia usada o como use los hitsounds o que sea) claro que lo puedes cambiar ;)

Download: MELL - BLACK LAGOON- Op. Vers..osz
Cambios: (NO, EN SERIO, SON UN MONTON DE MODIFICACIONES, es tu decisión aplicarlas o no :P )

No se tu, pero con las modificasiones yo logre en normal "SS" y en hard "S" :P

*La distancia entre las notas, ahora esta totalmente correcta (usando Dintance Snap 0.9x como supuse que estavas usando en normal y en Hard use 1.4x [lol, quedo mucho mas dificil asi...] )
*Algunos (muchos lol) beats problemasticos puestos en su lugar...
*Algunas partes en normal puestas un poco mas manejables para un noob jugador nuevo
*Creo que logre derrotar a mi mortal enemiga en ambas dificultades (me refiero de como poner bien esa parte) y la puse un poco mas facil de ver
*Algunos Sliders en ambas dificultades (realmente creo que asi se oyen mejor)
*Agregados algunos hitsounds para mayor ritmo 8-)
*No te preocupes, en Hard la parte en que matas a todos la deje con los hitsounds
*Mi imaginacion o no havias puesto todas las modificaciones que te dije?

Ah, y de tantas veces que e oido la cancion de dieron ganas de hacer una dificultad, (Insane) puedo hacerla?Por fa!!!
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ya está subida la nueva versión :D
Muchas gracias, enserio, y por favor: Haz el insane :D!!
AdvanceBoy
:D aca esta :D

Download: MELL - BLACK LAGOON- Op. Vers..osz

Ah... y como no tengo nada mas que decir... STAR!!!
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ya está subido todo, ahora toca esperar ;)

Let's wait until they aprove it. ^_^
AdvanceBoy
Ehh... cuando lo descargo solo aparese mi dificultad, lol, subelo de nuevo

EDITED: :D ya lo arreglaste :D
Topic Starter
Leeg
mmm prueba a copiar tu carpeta de la cancion fuera y borrarla del osu, y despues bajate esto.

Vas a tener tu que subir tu dificultad por que yo no las doy unido, me las jode :S

Haber, creo que ya lo he arreglado, prueba a bajarlo :D
v0xtrot
Please don't use black as a combo color, you can't see the rings, or even anything but the numbers sometimes in the video.
Topic Starter
Leeg
That increases the challenge lol.

I'll fix it :D
happy30
Normal

00:37:18 (0) - feels like theres missing a beat here :\
00:49:44 (0) - ^
01:02:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing seems not alright
01:08:03 (1,1) - these sliders are off

Hard

Can't find anything wrong here

Insane

00:40:54 (6) - 1 grid left (lvl3 grid)
00:57:86 (1) - resnap on timeline

Im not really a fan of those streams :|


Goodluck.
AdvanceBoy
Heyheyhey! Me recuerdas?

*Mod ahora con mas experiencia :D* (Nazi mod =D)

[Normal]

00:19:01(x) - como que falta una nota aqui
00:19:44 (1) - puedes hacerlo recto?, nuevo combo?
00:20:92 (2) - 1/6 >>>, elimina el nuevo combo?
00:24:30 (4) [00:25:56] - deverias eliminar el sonido de bala aqui, no en todo el slider, solo en donde esta la reverse arrow?
00:38:66 (1) - aliniar con 00:37:82?
00:40:35 (2) - una repeticion menos (elimina la reverse arrow)
00:44:58 (1) [00:46:06] - deverias eliminar el sonido de bala aqui, no en todo el slider, solo en donde esta la reverse arrow
00:47:75 (1) - snack con el slider anterior?
00:52:61 (4) - 1/2 >>> (recuerda usar el Distance Snap con los beats que siguen ;) )
00:54:51 (1) - ...eliminalo
00:57:89 (1) - termina en 00:59:58
00:59:79() - pon un Break aqui?
01:01:69 a 01:04:44 - Mal separado :o

[Hard]

00:16:03 (7) - 1 Grid abajo
00:20:89 (5) - puedes hacerlo recto?, usa el Distance Snap, esta demaciado alejado de (4)
01:08:00 (1,1) - Puedes alargarlos solo un poco mas?
01:12:23(x) - como que falta una nota aqui

"?" = Opcional

[AdvanceBoy's Insane] (Mi dificultad, lol)

00:14:13 (1) - elimina el clap al final
00:57:86 (1) - termina en 00:59:55

happy30 wrote:

Insane

00:40:54 (6) - 1 grid left (lvl3 grid)
00:57:86 (1) - resnap on timeline

Im not really a fan of those streams :|
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Intenta conseguir mas atencion de modders, manda "Mod Requests" o preguanta por el #mod ;)

EDITED

Leeg wrote:

Lo arregle :D (pero advanceboy, spamear en el chat no sera motivo de ban?XD)
Bueno, si lo haces en el #osu no pasara mucho tiempo antes que te silencien, pero si lo haces en #mod no te haran nada, ya que ese canal es especial para eso (pero tampoco es para estar cada 2 segundos diciendo "Somebody want mod my map?")
Topic Starter
Leeg
Lo arregle :D (pero advanceboy, spamear en el chat no sera motivo de ban?XD)
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Updated!!
Harken1
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Daru
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Mashley
Distance snap every beat. Clearly many are not spaced. It should be obvious.

Normal
00:15:42 (5) - Move back 1/4
00:18:80 (5) - Move back 3/4
00:22:11 (3) - Line up with (2)
00:24:30 (6) - New combo
00:27:04 (7) - Move back 1/6
00:47:75 (1) - Stack on the end of the previous slider?
01:06:34 (11) - New combo
01:08:03 (1,1) - Shortern both these sliders by 1/6.
01:14:79 (1) - What is the point of this spinner?

Hard
00:16:74 - Put a beat here maybe?
00:49:41 - ^
01:01:88 (1,2,3) - Ugh, horrible spacing
01:13:28 (1) - End 1/6 earlier
01:14:90 (1) - Pointless spinner again

Advanceboy's Insane
01:14:97 (1-30) - Ridiculously long combo.
Topic Starter
Leeg
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Takuma
- All:
The whole map consists of cluttered and inconsistent, confusing spacing. An example is in Hard, 01:03:57 (4,5,6,7). (4,5) and (6,7) are spaced the same, however, (4,5) is 1/2 apart on the time line, while (6,7) is only 1/4 apart.
- Normal:
00:38:66 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:14:79 (1) - I think it's best you delete this spinner and let it end from there.

- Hard:
00:16:77 (11) - Place on a blue tick (1/4 snap divisor).
00:38:64 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:14:90 (1) - I prefer you delete this spinner too, as I have the same opinion as I did with Normal.

- AdvanceBoy's Insane:
Hmm, I don't really like the 1/8ths. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it's recommended that you don't use 1/8ths, as they are too hard to click and too fast.
Topic Starter
Leeg
Re-snaped all.
All changes done.
Andrea
[Normal]

For first redo all breaks.

00:15:32 (5) - 1/4 forward.
00:18:70 (5) - ^
00:19:44 (1) - Spacing. Too close from (5).
00:37:39 (6) - Align with the slider (1).
00:59:793 - Remove this break!
01:02:75 (1) - Too close from (3).
01:08:03 (1,1) - This two slider sounds really bad. Change it.

[Hard]

00:35:68 (5) - Too close from (4).
01:04:52 (1,2) - 1/4 forward.
01:08:00 (1,1) - This two slider sounds really bad. Change it.

[Advanceboy's Insane]

00:16:45 (1) - This spinner is unrankable.
00:59:979 - Replace this break.

Star. Fix all my suggestion and looks better <3
Card N'FoRcE
Timing seems fine, maybe just a bit late by 3-4 ms

- Normal:
First of all, wrong beat snap divisor. I'm pretty sure you used 1/8 (or maybe you didn't resnap well the beats)
Many of the beats start 1/8 after of before they should be
Examples:
00:22:11 (3,4,5) - 00:22:11 (3) - 00:26:97 (2) - 01:04:08 (6) - 01:06:62 (2)
Then, some sliders don't sound good:
00:19:43 (1) - 01:08:34 (2) - 01:10:03 (2)
Use 1/4 beat snap divisor and fix. Remember that mos of the beats are in white or red timing lines usually.
Also, that spacing is NOT the way to go.
Beats are very random and the map isn't fun to play because of that.
Many users before me already told you to use Distance Snap, so try using it lo learn how to space properly now that you're a beginner (remember that you can fix its value by holding Alt-Gr)

- Hard:
Waaaay better.
00:37:37 (6) - this feels a bit out of context, but i guess it's fine.
00:39:48 (1) - make it 1/4 shorter
00:41:49 (2,3,4) - move 1/4 after
00:47:51 (12,1) - weird combos imho. Just make 12 a new combo and remove the new combo from the 1
00:53:00 (8) - move 1/4 before
01:06:31 (1) - uhm, maybe it's too close to the previous combo
01:08:00 (1) - same
01:08:32 (2) - 01:10:01 (2) - they both sound very weird
01:12:86 (6,7) - imho it's better to move them away a little more, they're too close to the 5
01:13:28 (1) - its end is weird. It sounds better if ends at 1:14:768 or 1:19:838 (your choice, though)

- AdvanceBoy's:
00:22:72 (1,2,3,4) - weird O.o why four beats? Imho 3 beats at 00:22:79, 00:22:90 and 00:23:00 are perfect
00:27:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - you're using 1/6 snap divisor and that's DEFINETLY wrong. Please use 1/4
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - same
Oh, i noticed just now that you used 1/6 only O.o
NO, 1/6 is for certain type of songs, it's useless for these kind of songs
Please, use 1/4 beat snap divisor and resnap CAREFULLY all beats and remove useless ones.
Good difficulty, for the rest.

OMG huge post xD
sesito71
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Download: MELL - BLACK LAGOON- Op. Vers. (Leeg) [Normal].osu
hyperluigi
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Ryuukun
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Topic Starter
Leeg
If I change the name i'll loose all the stars and i'll have to post a new topic.
Zatoichi

Leeg wrote:

If I change the name i'll loose all the stars and i'll have to post a new topic.
...no you won't?

Normal

01:10:25 (3,4,5) - highlight these three and move them a tick forward

distance snap plz

Hard

distance snap plz

Insane

00:22:72 (1,2) - delete these
00:23:00 (2) - make this a new combo, distance snap this
00:34:73 (2) - move this to the blue tick
00:35:36 (4) - ^
Topic Starter
Leeg
Yes it will, because it 'll upload in a topic with different name ( when i change the name in osu it says: Not yet submitted)
Zatoichi

Leeg wrote:

Yes it will, because it 'll upload in a topic with different name ( when i change the name in osu it says: Not yet submitted)
Trust me, it will not.
Zodiark1020
Nice map right now!!! :P XP

I wish you with a star~
Ryuukun

Leeg wrote:

If I change the name i'll loose all the stars and i'll have to post a new topic.
you won't ;)
i changed my maps name serverval times and everything went fine.
You just have to full submit again.

Edit:
better don't give away kudos for every post in here xD
blissfulyoshi
Normal:
00:40:35 (2) - align with the end of 1
00:42:46 (5) - align with 2
00:44:58 (1) - space this correctly, it is confusing right now
01:03:24 (3) - snap to the next quarter note and fix the spacing here
01:05:28 (9,10) - move both 1 grid(3) right to put 10 on top of 7
01:08:34 (2) - stack under 5, right now it does not look great and it is confusing
01:09:93 (2) - quarter note later

Hard:
00:16:45 (9) - I would recommend this be a horizontal reflection of 7
00:16:45 (9,10,11) - might want to make parallel to 6,7
00:22:79 (2) - align with 1
00:25:26 (5) - align with 4
00:47:72 (2) - align with 1
00:49:20 (4,5) - y is the spacing there larger
00:49:20 (4,5,6) - might want to align with 1,2,3
00:54:06 (11) - put on top of 8
01:03:21 (3) - snap to the next quarter note and fix the spacing here
01:04:62 (1) - space this correctly, and you might also want to align with 7
01:10:01 (2) - this ends a quarter not sooner

Insane:
00:15:82 (6,7) - make parallel to 4,5
00:23:43 (2) - align with 1
00:36:95 (5) - align with 4
00:40:54 (6) - make horizontal reflection of 5
00:52:58 (4) - make a horizontal reflection of 3
00:55:12 (1,2) - y is there an increase in spacing between these 2 (make 1 a vertical reflection of 6)
01:14:97 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the combos seem sort of randomly placed here.

Nice song and map. Star.
Sleep Powder
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mrtn
use offset 10953

[normal]
fine

[hard]
00:25:26 (5,6) - move down 1 level 3 grid
00:46:24 (7) - new combo
00:49:31 (4,5,6) - spacing

[advanceboy's insane]
00:14:98 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - spacing
00:23:00 (2,1) - weird jump
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6) - weird spacing
00:40:54 (6,1) - threw me off, fix it
01:01:88 (2,3,4) - spacing
01:20:89 (7,8) - spacing

starred.
XepherX3
add some kiai time to insane :lol:

Starred
Breeze
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vivere
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tieff
[Normal]
Why it have different offset?
Same note doesn't fir music or beat.
00:17:54 (1,2,3,4) - Fix spacing.
00:27:15 (2) - Place this note here 00:27:47.
00:49:65 (5) - Spacing.
00:58:20 (2,3) - Jump on normal?
01:04:65 (7) - New combo.
01:06:34 (1,2) - Spacing.

[Hard]
00:27:233 - Redo break.
00:37:05 (6) - Add note.

[AdvanceBoy's insane]
Good job.
00:37:90 (2,3,4) - Spacing. Fix it.
00:52:58 (4,5,6) - Spacing.
01:08:21 (7) - New combo.
01:18:14 (1) - Finish.
01:21:31 (8) - Add note.
01:21:42 (9) - Add note.

Star.
azuki
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Armin
Offset: 14.136

[AdvancedBoy's insane]
00:55:12 (1,2,3) and 00:55:96 (4,5,6) Did you use different distance spacing? o_O
00:37:16 (7) Align with 5 and 6?

[Hard]
00:42:12 (4) Maybe align with 2?
00:51:10 (1) Remove new combo
00:50:68 (10) ADD new combo
00:39:48 (1) This slider should finish at 00:39:91
00:54:06 (12) add new combo
00:54:48 (1) remove new combo

[Normal]
00:58:93 My suggestion... the spinner should finish 01:01:28 where is placed the red beat

This is a good beatmap but many parts are very confused.
Star, anyway °°
Reginleifx
grosso! xD
Starrodkirby86
0.0

Consider lowering hitsound volume by .5-1 ticks?

[Normal]:
00:36:97 (5) - Move 1 left on Grid Level 3.
00:37:39 (6) - Kind of a big jump...
00:39:51 (1,2) - Rhythm kind of odd here (2).
00:58:20 (2,3) - Move 1/4 later?
01:08:34 (2,3,4) - Overlap looks funny.
01:11:41 (1) - End spinner at 1:14:793?

Why does [Normal] have a different timing than [Hard] and [Insane]?

[Hard]:
00:49:31 (5) - Move 1 down on Grid Level 3.
01:08:32 (2) - Go to Beat Snap Divisor 1/8, and shorten this slider one anchor point up, so it'll repeat on a 1/8.
01:10:01 (2) - Something's up with this slider. :<

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]:
00:39:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Adjust spacing. If you want to keep that jump, make it a new combo or something.
01:03:14 (6) - Move more right?


Something's up with the rhythm here...one way or another...I just can't point my finger at it. I might need to take a look at this later. Never mind, it's just [Normal].
EEeee
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AdvanceBoy
Hi Leeg :3

Vine a echar un vistazo y se supone que iba a subir una version de mi dificultad adaptandose a los mods y con mi Style, pero veo que has hecho un gran trabajo arrenglandolo tu y tambien con las otras dificultades ;)

Le daria otra Star si pudiera... Espera, SI PUEDO!

Pink STAR!!
Starrodkirby86
*poot*

[Normal]:
00:16:45 (6) - Suggestion: Shorten slider by 1/4?
00:37:79 (1,2) - Suggestion: Move these to make (2) stacked under (6)? It's hardly noticeable so feel free to ignore. :)
00:54:48 (5) - Finish?
00:57:86 (1,2,3) - Suggestion: Move these to make (2) stacked under (8)? It's hardly noticeable so feel free to ignore. :)
01:04:83 (2) - Nazi: Move this a wee bit to make it look like (3) and (4)'s spacing? :3

[Hard]:
00:16:24 (8) - Nazi/Suggestion: Move 1 right on Grid Level 3.
00:49:20 (4) - Move 1 up on Grid Level 3.
01:03:99 (6) - Move 1/4 back. Adjust spacing as needed.
01:08:32 (2) - Shorten slider by 1/8. Believe me, it'll sound nicer. :3
01:09:69 (1,2) - In my opinion, this slider doesn't really fit now. ._. I don't know what you can do about it except either change it to follow a nice rhythm or replace it with circles. (Or a series of small sliders)

Forgive me if it's a lot of stuff. Most of the things on Normal are suggestions to make the map look a little prettier.

If you haven't already, set a pretty preview point. ^_^

Also, there's only one (Well, two) inherited timing sections (With the exception of AdvanceBoy's Insane). I don't know if there are other good places of putting them, but it kind of feels...out of place or not balanced that there's only one, you know?

Please notify me when you've made these changes. ^3^
minyeob
*Beep*

[Normal]
Suggestion~
00:36:95 (5) - Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 00:37:05)
01:09:90 (2) - Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 01:10:01)

[Hard]
Suggestion~
00:36:95 (5) - Same thing as [Normal]. Make this circle 1/4 beat later (To 00:37:05)


[AdvanceBoy]
00:18:50 (3) - This circle isn't snapped yet :o Resnap please~ (Use 1/4 beatsnap divisor)

Star for you! Good luck XD
mrtn
set a preview point

[normal]
00:27:66 - reinsert break
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! :D
ztrot
nice map I might mod this later
varq
Normal
00:14:98 (4) - This does not go with the song
00:15:008 - Place a beat here
00:20:89 (4) - Remove a repeat here
00:21:85 - Place a beat here
00:21:96 - Why did you make it soft here?
00:22:16 (5) - Make this repeat once
00:24:27 (1) - The second part of this slider doesn't go well with the song
00:36:95 (5) - This does not go with the song
00:39:48 (1) - Make this slider a 1/4 shorter
00:49:42 - Add a beat here
00:52:58 (4) - I don't like this slider, doesn't go well with the song
00:58:28 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
00:58:72 - Add a beat here
01:09:90 (2) - Move this a 1/4 forward
01:04:09 (6) - Move a 1/4 forward (white tick)
01:04:83 (2) - This does not go with the vocals
01:06:74 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back

Hard
00:18:47 - Put a beat here
00:20:89 (5) - Remove a repeat from this slider
00:21:85 - Put a beat here
00:23:21 (4) - Make this a slider for 1/2 a beat
00:24:90 (4) - Make this a slider ending on where the (5) is
00:25:26 (5) - Remove this
00:26:81 (11) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
00:36:95 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4 OR 00:37:06 - Add a beat here
00:37:37 (7,8) - Remove these
00:37:79 (1) - Make this slider 3/4 of a beat, and make it repeat only once
00:38:65 - Add a beat here
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Increase the spacing a bit here
00:44:55 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Too much whistle
00:46:45 (2) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/2
00:46:67 (3) - Remove this
00:47:09 (5) - Make this a slider lasting a 1/4
01:04:83 (2) - Move this a 1/4 back
01:08:32 (2) - The reverse arrow here does not match with the song
01:10:75 (4) - Move this to the next white tick
01:11:38 (1,2,3) - Match these beats with the vocals
01:13:28 (1) - End the spinner at 01:14:77, it doesn't match Normal

Insane
00:14:98 (2) - Move this a 1/4 ahead
00:15:19 (3) - Remove this
00:16:45 (8) - Make this a hit circle
00:16:88 (9) - Move this to 00:16:67 and make it slider lasting a 1/4
00:19:41 (1) - Add another repeat to this slider
00:20:05 (2) - Remove this
00:24:69 (3) - This slider sounds weird
00:27:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like this pattern
00:31:24 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:37:79 (1,2,3) - Doesn't go with the song
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hit sounds sound weird here.
01:03:78 (7) - Why is this 1/6 slider? It sounds bad
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Slightly off the screen
01:20:89 (7) - Make this a slider

Overall, the hit sounds are inconsistent.

Remember, you don't have to change it if you don't want to. Some of these are just opinions.
Shinde
I made a difficulty for you. You don't have to use it or anything. This song was hard to map to, a lot of the beats feel a little awkward, which is why I think it's hard for me to play Normal/Hard/Insane. You kinda have to learn the song, moreso than other songs.

Anyways, good luck with ranking.

On a sidenote, it looks like the video might need a slight negative offset. I was thinking -110 I believe.

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Topic Starter
Leeg
Thanks a lot, i like it :D

Added ^^
Kurai
Hi~
[Normal]
00:15:93 (x) - Add note
00:16:14 (x) - ^

[Hard]
00:18:57 (x) - Add note
00:22:16 (1) - WTF Oo, this is Horrible !
00:26:81 (11) - Slider ?

[Shinde Style]
Good ^^

[AdvanceBooy's Insane]
perfect

☼Star☼
Gens
[General]
  1. Deberías de llenar el dato de "Source" también.
  2. El conteo no suena bien. Tal vez deberías de deshabilitarlo.
  3. "hitwhistle.wav" está en el folder de la canción, pero no es usado. Podrías eliminarlo y hacer una Full Submission de nuevo?
[Todas las dificultades (excepto la de Shinde)]

00:22:16 - IMO el cambio de sonido no queda.

[Normal]
  1. Siento que es muy difícil para un Normal...
00:15:93 (6,7,8) - Pero qué rayos. Muévelos 1/4 para adelante y reacomódalos con distance snap.
00:39:48 (1,2) - Yo evitaría esto... contráelo por 1/4.

[Hard]

00:18:57 (5) - 1/4 para atrás.
00:26:81 (11) - Tal vez 1/4 para adelante?
01:04:73 - Tal vez deberías tener un beat aquí.
01:10:75 (4) - 1/4 para adelante.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

01:03:78 (7,8) - Algo sobre estos dos no suena bien... no deberías usar octavos comoquiera.

[Shinde Style]

<3
Aunque no me gustó mucho el cambio de sampleset, comoquiera <3

~ ~ ~

No está mal para tu primer mapa (es tu primer mapa, verdad?), pero todavía necesita un poco de trabajo. :D
Espero verte haciendo más mapas~
whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Non-Detailed Modding v.1.0 Go~


[Normal]

00:15:40 (5,6) - What the..... this jump feels random and out of place.
00:15:93 (6,7) - Don't follow the lyrics here, follow the beat. If you follow the lyrics for these two notes, its going to sound confusing.
00:37:37 (6,1,2) - The spacing here looks really odd. Please double check into this.
00:39:48 (1,2) - Could be put together a bit more neatly?
00:44:55 (1) - Just a suggestion but maybe you can make a more neater slider?
00:57:86 (1,2,3) - Fix the spacing here please.

The notes feel a bit randomly placed in this map. Also, the spacing would need some touch ups. Try using alt + shift to fine tune the distance snap rate.

[Hard]

00:15:82 (6) - New combo?
00:18:57 (5,1) - What is up with this jump?
00:35:05 (3,4) - Too far apart.
00:36:74 (4,5,6) - Spacing fluctuation. Lower (6) down a bit and the notes lined up after.
00:41:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing fluctuation. (4) needs to be a bit higher.
00:54:06 (1) - Not stacked evenly.
01:02:72 (1) - You forced a note to be here though the spacing is improper.
01:08:32 (2) - This repeating slider sounds really off.
01:10:96 (?) - No Note here?
01:19:83 - I've noticed the map ends here, but normal ends sooner. Mind taking a look into that?

The notes in this difficulty feels kinda disorganized and not smoothly flowing through the map. The jumps were also out of place as well.

[AdvanceBoy's Insane]

This difficulty is missing a preveiw point.
00:37:16 (7) - Delete this note and see if it sounds better without it.
01:03:78 (7) - This slider is just tapping away. It doesn't sound like it goes to anything.
01:04:62 (1,2,3) - Bottomed out of the window.

[Shinde Style]

00:19:62 (7,8,9) - Spacing fluctuation. Just need to move (9) down 1 notch.
00:20:89 (1,2,3,4) - Got some spacing fluctuation between the notes here. Double check into that.

Overall: The map still needs some work. The spacing for [Normal] and [Hard] felt really odd to play with honestly and needs to be fixed up. Also, please check into the combo colors to see that they don't blend into the video background. Another thing, you have two .osb files in the song folder plus an odd resolution for the background which needs to be looked into as well (Screen Shot). Make sure the map is fixed up before asking me (or another BAT) again.
Shinde

whymeman wrote:

[Shinde Style]

00:19:62 (7,8,9) - Spacing fluctuation. Just need to move (9) down 1 notch. Totally wouldn't have noticed myself, done.
00:20:89 (1,2,3,4) - Got some spacing fluctuation between the notes here. Double check into that. I'm suprised you noticed. ;x I actually debated this positioning briefly, I should've turned grid off and aligned them manually but didn't.
Taken care of. Here's the updated version. On a sidenote, Leeg if anyone posts suggestions for my difficulty, can you contact me via PM? I only knew whyme did cause he told me and I only check here every couple days so. :(

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Topic Starter
Leeg
Ok, thanks :D All changes done!
AdvanceBoy
<3 Mas sugerencias <3

[Normal]

00:34:41 (1,2,3) - Un grid a la derecha, para que quede centrado
00:37:37 (6) - Uck, creo que no suena bien, eliminalo
00:37:79 (1,2) - un grid abajo, para que que el slider quede snacked con (4,5)
00:39:48 (1) - Termina en 00:39:90 (tick rojo anterior)
00:58:28 (2) - 1/4 atras
00:58:71 (x) - añade una nota?
01:06:74 (2,3,4) - espacio

[Hard]

01:09:27 (3) - 1/4 atras
01:10:01 (2,3,4) - uh?
01:11:59 (2) - 1/4 hacia adelante
01:11:81 - 1/2 hacia adelante (al tick rojo)

[YO's Insane]

00:31:35 (3,4) - des-snack-ea eso plz
00:55:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - un grid hacia abajo y otro a la derecha
01:03:78 (7) - borra ESO, es su lugar pon un circle en 01:03:78 y otro en 01:03:92 (usando Beat Snap Divisor 1/6) snack-eados
01:08:21 (1,2,3,4,5) - Um... que quede asi:

[Shinde Style]

Bah, no veo nada demasiado mal

PD: NUNCA TE RINDAS!


Topic Starter
Leeg
Changes done! Thanks to all :D
ShaggoN
[Normal]
  1. 00:15:93 (6-7) - i don't like that. would move that 1/4 back
  2. 00:18:78 (5) - Move that note two grids right
  3. 00:41:38 (2) - Move that note one grid right
[Hard]
  1. 00:18:57 (5) - Add new combo
  2. 00:18:78 (1) - Remove new combo
  3. 00:48:36 (1) - ^
  4. 01:10:96 (4) - Move 1/2 forward
[AdvanceBoy's Insane]
Many little spacing problems but it plays naturally.
[Shinde Style]
  1. 00:18:14 (3) - Move it two grids right, and two up
  2. 00:19:83 (8) - Move it one grid down
  3. 00:20:26 (9) - Move it one grid up
Starrrr'd :D
Mafiamaster
Hard~
01:10:86 (4) - This note is too early. Move it to the white tick.

Advanceboy~

01:04:20 (9) - Move this farther from 8.

Shinde~
00:47:72 (1) - Place the Kiai time here at the beginning of this slider
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! ^^
Shinde
Leeg, please don't make changes to my difficulty. Like I said, just PM me and I'll come take care of them ASAP, even if it's small things like grid spacing and kiai. I'm on quite often so time shouldn't be a problem. orz
Jesss
Interesante map :o

Bueno, voy al grano:

Normal
SPOILER
00:16:45 (8) - que fea posición de ese slider, tiende a ser confusa, es un map normal
00:18:466 - deberías poner un circle (es solo una recomendación)
00:23:008 - ^
00:39:48 (1) - Haz caso al Distance Snap, estoy en los zapatos de un noob y bleh! que feo lugar de ese slider.
00:58:71 (4) - recomiendo que sea slider
00:58:92 (1) - Sobra ese spinner (!), no va con la canción :S, recomendaría hacer lo siguiente: haz un circle en este intervalo de tiempo: 00:59:346 (recomendable, no te estoy obligando) y luego sí el spinner, pero en 00:59:557
01:05:26 (3,4) - paralelos a 1 y 2, Horrible! o.o haz algo mejor pero no me gusta cómo están esos circles.

en general, piensa resnappear el map y trata a que no sea tan random los lugares donde colocas los items

Hard
SPOILER
00:20:89 (5) - feo slider con return para un hard u.u volvelos circles
00:42:86 (6) - ^ (personalmente me aburren esos sliders que van de un lado a otro más de 4 veces) y son horribles en mapas hard
01:08:32 (2) - aleja ese slider, confunde para el que juega abruptamente hard...xD

Eso es todo lo que vi

AdvanceBoy's Insane
SPOILER
wow...bastante bien, pero ya detecté problemas:
00:20:05 (2) - WTF! Posiciona mejor ese circle
00:23:00 (2) - casi fuera de pantalla, es casi unrankable
00:24:69 (3) - ese slider está mal ubicado en el lapso de tiempo
00:34:20 (1) - Quita ese New Combo
01:21:74 (1) - corta ese spinner 2/4 de beat, coloca un circle en 01:24:06 (1) - , ah, en el spinner usa time control points para silenciar el sonido del spinneo, tendrá mejor efecto para cuando toque pisar el circulo final que ando recomendando ^^

Shinde Style
SPOILER
no veo problemas, está Perfecto O.O
el mapa tiene potencial, doy star
Topic Starter
Leeg
Gracias, ha hice los cambios.
Por cierto, lo del nivel de Advanceboy al final queda chulisimo, has tenido una buena idea, enserio :D
H1ko
Buen mapa!
starrr
mtmcl
Decent map for a new mapper. You'll learn to loosen up a little more in your mapping over time. Shinde's difficulty is a lot of fun. Bubble.

Ouch, look at the post below this. I'm on a losing streak. Bubble popped.
Mystearica
um?

[Shinde's]

00:46:24 (4) - spacing...

[AdvanceBoy's]

00:18:50 (3) - unsnapped?
feels like a couple spacing errors too, hitsounds meh.

[Hard]

00:25:26 (5) unsnapped?
00:23:53 (5) - hm? resnap?

lots of other things to pick on as well but ok, nevermind that.

[Normal]

well...ok.

you guys should really work on hitsounds/arranging your notes and be careful with snapping...

Also I see BPM 142.001? Use 142 even?
Topic Starter
Leeg
Done! (not Shinde mods :D)
Shinde

Mystearica wrote:

[Shinde's]

00:46:24 (4) - spacing... Intentional, it's such a small increase I wouldn't even consider it a jump, and they're all symmetrical sliders so it shouldn't interfere with playability. I considered a new combo, but I don't think that'd look good..

Also I see BPM 142.001? Use 142 even?
Did do two small changes though, and knocked the .001 off the BPM. I'm assuming Leeg did that as well?

Download: MELL - Red Fraction (TV Size) (Leeg) [Shinde Style].osu
Topic Starter
Leeg
Yes, i changed the BPM ^^.

Uploaded shinde fixed :p
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