Still sounds like a technique that sacrifices a lot of accuracy for the sake of speed. Anyone can be fast in osu!, that's notziin wrote:
you're wasting time, energy, and speed by pressing the key all the way to the bottom. there's no reason to bottom out if you have tactile feedback.
kriers wrote:
Still sounds like a technique that sacrifices a lot of accuracy for the sake of speed. Anyone can be fast in osu!, that's notziin wrote:
you're wasting time, energy, and speed by pressing the key all the way to the bottom. there's no reason to bottom out if you have tactile feedback.
what matters. Having that accuracy comes from controlling your fingers at a steady bpm. This in fact much easier if you bottom your keys and it's all that matters in a rythm game.
it will continue to happen if you use a ruber dome --> rubber will worn out always. Maybe search on google if you can swap one key for another.Neruell wrote:
I am not an expert in hardware parts, so I will explain what I mean. When you buy a new keyboard the buttons are hard to press but with the time they become so light to press because they were overused. Is there a way to "repair" it? That happened to my old keyboard but since it cost only 2 euro I didn't think of doing anything with it but not if that will happen to my new one. So any experiance with that "issue"?
fixed that for you. blues mimic rubber domes/buckling spring. brown/clear/black/red all have the same activation point and release point.Tom94 wrote:
The REAL Problem with Blue /Brownswitches is that the activation point is lower than the release point.
-> You have go travel a certain distance up after a keypress to be able to press again.
whatever. If you want to be good at something you always look for ways to improve. bottoming out is wasteful, even if it's easier to do.kriers wrote:
Still sounds like a technique that sacrifices a lot of accuracy for the sake of speed. Anyone can be fast in osu!, that's not
what matters. Having that accuracy comes from controlling your fingers at a steady bpm. This in fact much easier if you bottom your keys and it's all that matters in a rythm game.
lol way to say whatever and then make a hell of a good explanation anyway. I love you ziinziin wrote:
whatever. If you want to be good at something you always look for ways to improve. bottoming out is wasteful, even if it's easier to do.kriers wrote:
Still sounds like a technique that sacrifices a lot of accuracy for the sake of speed. Anyone can be fast in osu!, that's not
what matters. Having that accuracy comes from controlling your fingers at a steady bpm. This in fact much easier if you bottom your keys and it's all that matters in a rythm game.
For a brand new person playing osu, I guarantee it's easier for them to play with a mouse than a pen tablet if they've never used a pen before. That doesn't mean that using a mouse is any better than a pen, just that it has a higher learning curve.
Good typists never bottom out their keys unless they're using a rubber dome (which requires bottoming out). The tactile bump is enough to know that the key has been pressed, which is equivalent to bottoming out, except it takes less time/distance/force, and more getting used to. There's a reason people can hit 1000 taps per minute on a single key with scissor switch keyboards: they vibrate their fingers at ~2mm (half the distance of most mechs), and do so pretty accurately.
That won't happen with a mechanical one, or at least I mean that later I can simply replace the button with a new one?Mesita wrote:
it will continue to happen if you use a ruber dome --> rubber will worn out always. Maybe search on google if you can swap one key for another.Neruell wrote:
I am not an expert in hardware parts, so I will explain what I mean. When you buy a new keyboard the buttons are hard to press but with the time they become so light to press because they were overused. Is there a way to "repair" it? That happened to my old keyboard but since it cost only 2 euro I didn't think of doing anything with it but not if that will happen to my new one. So any experiance with that "issue"?
It changes when the spring gets worn out, that takes a fuckload of presses though and isn't nearly as noticeable as it is with a rubber dome, and mostly it affects how quickly the key springs back to it's normal position.Waryas wrote:
the force u need to activate a button on a mech kb is always the same, just clean it regularly
I've broken about 5 million keypresses with my J and K keys respectively so...Waryas wrote:
its 2Millions keypresses warranty so..
My 7G has 50million keypress warranty.Waryas wrote:
its 2Millions keypresses warranty so..
Probably not. The switch is the part of the keyboard. But I really think you shouldn't worry about it that much, because most of these keyboards are much better quality than your standard 2€ one.Neruell wrote:
Still wondering, can't you actually just replace the 2 buttons and have a "new" kb again? Also isn't it also possible simply exchange the button with a brown switch into a red switch or something like that?
Thinking of either buying a brown or red lol, what exactly does the tactile feedback do?Tom94 wrote:
The REAL Problem with Blue / Brown switches is that the activation point is lower than the release point.
-> You have go travel a certain distance up after a keypress to be able to press again.
Tactile feedback probably is just some kind of preference.
In Theory black / red switches are better suited because the release point and activation point are on the same heigth which is a side effect of them requiring a linear force to be pressed. (no tactile feedback)
Aaaaaaand, even though in theory red/black switches got an advantage it probably is extremely small. I mean... Cookiezi uses a blackwidow (hence blue switches) and obviously can stream just fine.
I'd recommend going for brown / blue if you want tactile feedback (brown requires less force than blue) and red / black if you don't want.
Detailed info on the different kinds of switches: http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mecha ... oard-guide
Btw. input latency isn't an issue when using PS/2 as unlike USB the status isn't polled but directly sent to the processor through the mobo. (lolcubes already mentioned that I think)
You can change the switches, if you like soldering. The switches are solded into the circuit board and can be changed fairly easily, granted that you have steady hands and something to sold(er?) with.Neruell wrote:
Still wondering, can't you actually just replace the 2 buttons and have a "new" kb again? Also isn't it also possible simply exchange the button with a brown switch into a red switch or something like that?
This is true.ampzz wrote:
The reds from my own experience are ridiculously difficult to control since you can't actually feel the actuation point except if you rely on bottoming the keys all the time.
With the blues you can hear and feel the rhythm that you're tapping away with; which will likely be my next, better, investment.
QFTampzz wrote:
The reds from my own experience are ridiculously difficult to control since you can't actually feel the actuation point except if you rely on bottoming the keys all the time.
With the blues you can hear and feel the rhythm that you're tapping away with; which will likely be my next, better, investment.
ampzz wrote:
The reds from my own experience are ridiculously difficult to control since you can't actually feel the actuation point except if you rely on bottoming the keys all the time.
With the blues you can hear and feel the rhythm that you're tapping away with; which will likely be my next, better, investment.
Definitely tally with my experiences so far. I guess control is the key word here.flow wrote:
For the most part blues give a clear indicator of how much you're actually tapping/streaming above all else.
In that case I guess it is worth of using red since you won't have difficulties controlling it or at least following the rhythm, and speed does benefit here then. But blues seems better for people who lose themselves in rhythm from what I guess reading through the thread.lolcubes wrote:
If you have a very good sense of rhythm, that thing doesn't help you that much, just sayin'.
I played 4k pc every month for 4 months with reds. Same shitty experience as ampzz hadIppE wrote:
You clearly didn't play with them enough.ampzz wrote:
The reds from my own experience are ridiculously difficult to control
Depends on your own opinon of accuracy. Being accurate with reds is no deal. Streaming low bpm comfortably is a whole different matter,IppE wrote:
Well I must be the exception to the rule then as I got hang of reds in 2 weeks and I have no issues being accurate with them.
hikriers wrote:
Depends on your own opinon of accuracy. Being accurate with reds is no deal. Streaming low bpm comfortably is a whole different matter,
and by comfortable, I mean SS on hard streamy maps.
higat1toneku wrote:
it's almost impossible to stream accurately without bottoming out on reds
Just wanting to confirm this.lolcubes wrote:
I used a random 10$ slim keyboard and I could stream high bpm just fine.
Now I have a 7G and my streaming speed is pretty much the same, except much more accurate and consistent, and "vibrating" for super high bpm is easier (260+), but that's not really you should be doing if you want to have any decent accuracy. :p
I doubt that as well.Tom94 wrote:
Well... the steelseries black switch keyboards might aswell be crap. But I doubt that.
Din duCXt! This is a thread about mechanical keyboards! /o/CXu wrote:
Laptop keyboard.
So mean ;_;kriers wrote:
Din duCXt!
(unless I'm tired and cba to put effort in it)