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Nakagawa-Kanon
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NatsumeRin

winber1 wrote:

a little late. :(

just suggestions...:

Combo 2 and 3 seem to look really similar... or maybe it's just my skin. Consider making one darker? ehh it's the same to my previous wowaka maps... just assume it's fine.

Rin

00:04:579 (1) - seems a little off from 00:03:409 (1) -. just stack it perfectly under it? It also makes the curve 00:04:140 (4,5,6,1) - more neat and smooth. i changed the place a little bit, but stack is not a good idea imo
00:07:506 (4) - If i'm not mistaken the new combo should be here, and not at 00:07:652 (1). If you listen at 25%, you should hear that the guitar plays a descending melody at 00:07:067 (1,2,3), and then the guitar starts a new melody at a higher pitch note at 00:07:506 (4) - ahh i get your point, you're right! remapped this part!
00:12:189 (4) - ^ ^
00:16:872 (4) - ^ (and etc... It should be obvious at which parts I'm pointing to, so I'm not going to mention it anymore.) ^ totally got them.
00:59:750 - aww no stream is mapped at all :(. oh well. max score 179xxxxx, sorry...
01:12:043 (3) - i have a sudden urge to end this slider at 01:12:262 (the blue tick), but idk why. It just feels so right to me ._. like http://puu.sh/ioen or something seems fun.
01:26:558 (2,3) - small nazi, but move both these notes down a bit so that combo 1, 2, and 3 are equally spaced? ok.
01:38:137 (1) - a slider works better here imo (that ends at 01:38:769 - ?) rather than a note. just my opinion tho. I'm not all that sure where to put it tho lol. ehh, in fact it happens to me too.. so no change.
01:40:663 (1) - ^ ^
02:09:298 (1) - same as first suggestion. done.

wmfchris wrote:

是誰叫我求個正義 粉碎泡泡

[General]
imo everydiff need 500~1000 audio lead-in ._. Considering you've already put 1500 for [Easy], 1500 for all diff would be fine. i don't know why it happens seriously... changed to all 1000.
You start the break for [Rin] at 01:45:716 - , so I prefer you do the same thing for [Easy] and [Normal] as both break starts before 01:45. changed.

[Rin]
00:22:433 - just a little thought here: try to make it gradually louder? nice idea.
00:47:165 (3,4) - just a bit confusing here as this is the 1/2 spacing throughout the diff and it's not yet in kiai time 0.0 not a much thing imo, the slider is obviously 3/4 anyway...
01:26:769 (3) - [Nazi] Slider shape adjustment (symmetrical along the y-axis) ok
328,312,86769,2,0,B|300:348|256:356|204:348|172:288,1,160,2|0
02:27:152 - same as 0:22 did.
03:27:664 - duplicated timeline 0.0 fixed.

[Normal]
00:45:409 (1) - remove whistle here? no.

[Taiko]
00:08:092 - finish as you've done before personally i agree with you and added...
00:12:774 - ^ ^
00:17:457 - ^ ^

...投降
昨晚mod途中地震沒mod完 ;A; 地震dbl

EDIT: 嗯 忘記star.
wmfchris
after rechecking and asking some others I think it's fine enough to do this one...

bubbled!
Mafiamaster
Played through each difficulty.
Nothing seemed out of the ordinary.
Ranked.
YTYuyu
Hurray it got ranked. Congrats Rin Rin :P
Nakagawa-Kanon
yap
spboxer3
wa!!Rank了 恭喜了!!
KanaRin
好吧= =努力做好偽善正義
Congratz
Mitsuneko
Congratulations Rin :)
GiNa
恭喜 :3
phonic
Congratz! >3<
Laurier
grats!
Kawayi Rika
Omedeto Rin sama ><
Haruhi_sama
You're Justice Breaker!
Dino99
Congratz!!~~
Kitsuneko
Congrats Rin chan~
m i z u k i
Rin chan omedeto!!!!!!!!
jericho2442
Unranked, no...just no

Rin

01:25:506 (1) - Burai slider, MUST be changed


02:05:927 (1) - Burai slider, MUST be changed


01:16:067 (6,1,2,3) - the slider ends on (1,3) need moving away from the slider more, they look too much like burai sliders as they are
03:18:518 (1,2,3) - same

these things MUST be fixed, and should never of been ranked
ztrot
Everything jeri said but instead of the "no just no" I will say this.
Your map in its current state it is breaking one of the oldest and well know rules. Slider paths should not overlap into themselves no matter how easy it is to read. Even if you don't have to move the mouse to play it. This is mostly a cosmetic rule but it also has to do with how a map is read/played. Of course most of you might be able to read this, but it doesn't change the fact that the slider in question is bad and there are a ton of better things you could do with it.
KRZY
;_; I had such a good record on this...
Scorpiour
lol to be another freestyle?
Jordan
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Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
1.
Of course most of you might be able to read this
This means, even you could admit, it's readable and playable. And also, i think it's easy for BAT/MAT to judge if a slider is readable/playable.

2.
This is mostly a cosmetic rule.
This means, even you could admit, it's not that useful, if a rule is there only because it's a rule, is it a bit odd? Then why should we have it there? Plz, we have ranking rules/guidelines to ensure players can enjoy playable maps, if one has nothing to do with them or even prevent some fun things happen, we should totally forbidden it.

3.
There are a ton of better things you could do with it
Not really. (1) The sliders need to be long for obvious reason. (2) The sliders need to be creative to fit the rhythm. (3) The sliders need to be readable and playable.

So I think the better way is throw that odd rule into garbage and totally change to this to a case-to-case thing as it's very easy to be so. If the only thing you can think about is "no just no" but not something could really benefits players, i don't think it's going good. Or at least, make [Insane] diffs an exception as Insane players could easily recognize them (as we have another similar rules there), and this map could still be in handle, right?

A little off-topic but: This map is called: Justice Breaker.
ztrot
your not going to turn this in to a "is this right?" post. It is not allowed so you must fix it. it is really as simple as that.
eldnl

ztrot wrote:

your not going to turn this in to a "is this right?" post. It is not allowed so you must fix it. it is really as simple as that.
These are rules without sense men, the sliders seems very good and are completely readable, you are just crying for nothing.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
Man, i hope you could think a bit before posting, what you said is better than "no just no" but not that much. Why we need to keep a rule there just because it's a rule and sadly, many fun things can't exist because of this?

If there's a rule saying: you need to change your avatar to NatsumeRin before getting a map ranked, you of course won't follow it, because it's benefits nothing to the players. But well, why should another rule even worse could happen?

I hope this thing could be a chance for use to fix some odd things in the rules and let future things get better.
eldnl

NatsumeRin wrote:

I hope this thing could be a chance for use to fix some odd things in the rules and let future things get better.
Yes. I'm sick of senseless rules.
Shiirn
02:05:927 (1) - I'd like to hear your specific thoughts over why you made this loop over itself very sharply when the music itself is simply a fading riff.
ztrot
This will not become a 10 page fight locked if you want to make changes or talk about this contact Jericho or myself in-game.
jericho2442
unlocked now that rin has agreed to fix the unrankable stuff in this map
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
No_Gu
结果NTR又出现了

呵呵。
tutuhaha
o((⊙﹏⊙))o. [抖].....
呵呵.....好恐怖←_←....
SapphireGhost
Rankable now, so... let's support NTR.

[General]
- Label [Hard] as [Kanon's Hard]? So people who download through osu!direct know who it's by, and Kanon has other labeled guest difficulties.

[NTR]
00:03:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Are these not supposed to be completely aligned?
02:08:128 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^
02:37:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - A bit too much for the first stream in the map? Sort of hard on the first play.

Nicely mapped, I hope it can be re-ranked quickly.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

SapphireGhost wrote:

Rankable now, so... let's support NTR.

[General]
- Label [Hard] as [Kanon's Hard]? So people who download through osu!direct know who it's by, and Kanon has other labeled guest difficulties.

Kanon would probably make it confused (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/109249)...He's not online now so can't ask, but checked some of his gds, mostly won't add a name there and the only one use is http://osu.ppy.sh/s/37455, dksslqj's Hard...

And when he upload the diff he used only Hard... so i just kept that.


[NTR]
00:03:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Are these not supposed to be completely aligned? in fact i don't mean that to happen at first i designed this part. but it seems works fine...
02:08:128 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^ ^
02:37:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - A bit too much for the first stream in the map? Sort of hard on the first play. emm but it's probably the first place to come out some long streams (it fits), there's 2 short streams before that, so i think it's still fine...?

Nicely mapped, I hope it can be re-ranked quickly.
SapphireGhost
IRC Stuff...
- Fixed a small problem involving the beatmap image.
- Discussed lack of spinners for score variance on easier difficulties, no change.
- Also re-checked new combos.
Okay, should be ready for re-rank so good luck.
Bubbled!
ztrot
There are still unrankable slider ends on this thing.

NTR:
00:31:653 (2) -
01:16:140 (1) -
01:16:726 (3) -
02:05:927 (1) -
03:18:518 (1) -
03:19:104 (3) -
03:27:299 (2) -

All of these fold back into themselves not 100% but to much for my liking. I do not think this map is ready, and the sliders should be changed.

Of course if the team feels other wise please speak up. I would not rank this tho in its current state.
no these bad boys are unrankable nobody touch this till the changes are made.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
I have to be honest to myself.
I won't change my ideas to mapping, otherwise you'll never see NatsumeRin here.
If you can't understand, it's you.
If you understand, then you're probably my friend, though only probably.

Things are really simple.
People who don't know mapping/modding are making rules.
People who don't know mapping/modding are shouting at others.
People who don't know mapping/modding are forcing their opinions.
But.

We do remember good mappers, but not the one who only give poor opinions, right?

Sorry to dk and Sco, but this is the end of the map. (Edit: also climbb, long-time partner, don't even think about you.)

Nuked.
No_Gu
呵呵。
Scorpiour
lol what can i say?

that is the man who said he is one of the best mapper of osu and ask for others' support? a kid even don't know what is a good map?

i don't know where's ur "rule" come from because nobody show it in the rules and guide-lines. what i can assume is u r too weak to pass such a nice map

and more, i can show u hundreds map have similar pattern and sliders, would you please unrank all of them? including some best of 2011 like freestyle, including the most famous app map like BASARA, and so on?

and last i really curious that the isn't the aiming of modding is "to improve ur beatmaps" but "force others to obbey my rules or i unrank u" as dictator ? lol.

good job, ztrot
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