/confirm
ha ha hahah you are cornered nowbmin11 wrote:
oh no
1. My favorite role so far is a tie between Flavor cop and Lynch Redirector. I liked knowing what roles people had, and having a possibly game-changing role was both scary and thrillingNoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What's your favorite role and alignment?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) Would you rely on meta?
4) How often do you plan on posting?
1) Anything that can confirm me as town. That doesn't apply for this setup very much.NoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What's your favorite role and alignment?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) Would you rely on meta?
4) How often do you plan on posting?
1) I dunno.NoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What's your favorite role and alignment?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) Would you rely on meta?
4) How often do you plan on posting?
Yes, but as you said it's really the only way town can get reads. I've been trying to think of an alternative but RQS is the only close alternative and it doesn't do much either. I'm not fond of D1 in most mafia games. I love being able to do things like claiming insomniac D1 in WWG, that's what's fun.Sync wrote:
Do you think RVS is useless and unnecessary? If so, why? If not, how can it be used to benefit town?
I haven't actually completed a single game yet, actually.Sync wrote:
How many games of mafia have you played, Ekaru?
if it's more than 3 then those answers suck
NoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What's your favorite role and alignment? Mafia or Serial Killer
2) Would you lynch lurkers? Depending on the current suspicion list
3) Would you rely on meta? Large games, not really. Small games, as far as it can carry me
4) How often do you plan on posting? Once a day min
oh lolEkaru wrote:
I haven't actually completed a single game yet, actually.Sync wrote:
How many games of mafia have you played, Ekaru?
if it's more than 3 then those answers suck
It's not useless. I think I've gone over this with Salvage a lot of times already.Sync wrote:
Do you think RVS is useless and unnecessary? If so, why? If not, how can it be used to benefit town?
Oh fine, I'll stop being lazy and answer those:NoHItter wrote:
Also Ekaru, your answers to 3 and 4 are cop outs.
For 1, I can understand given that you haven't even finished a game, but not 3 or 4.
Then why didn't you post again after you saw it? You had to wait for someone to call you out before answering.Backfire wrote:
Oh, I didn't notice till after I posted that there was.
Because I didn't notice till I came back ;_;NoHItter wrote:
Really. If you wanted the thread to not be quiet, instead of prodding other people to talk, you try to generate activity first.Then why didn't you post again after you saw it? You had to wait for someone to call you out before answering.Backfire wrote:
Oh, I didn't notice till after I posted that there was.
'K.Drakari wrote:
I'm just here for the sake of being here. Never been particularly good at day 1.
Actually, it is. He basically said that he's bad at voting randomly until something comes up.Sync wrote:
Ekaru's vote actually isn't justified at all
Of course it isn't. We already went over that last time.Sync wrote:
D1 isn't all about RVS, you know...
in this case, it's you voting for Drakari giving not a single valid reason whatsoeverThen half the people in this thread are scum for voting without giving a valid reason. That's what RVS is.
Exactly my point.Sync wrote:
they aren't scum
also, are you claiming your vote for Drakari was a random vote?I'm claiming it's semi-random, yes. The moment a better vote comes up I'll switch to it. Again, I only voted for Drakari for now because he said he wasn't posting just because he isn't confident in his day 1 abilities. It's not anywhere near a reliable read, of course, but neither is somebody voting without an explanation early on in the game.
it's past RVS now. "semi-random" is worse than "random". Also, your "semi-random" reasoning doesn't make sense -- how exactly did you interpret "I am not confident in my D1 abilities" as a scum-tell?Ekaru wrote:
I'm claiming it's semi-random, yes. The moment a better vote comes up I'll switch to it. Again, I only voted for Drakari for now because he said he wasn't posting just because he isn't confident in his day 1 abilities. It's not anywhere near a reliable read, of course, but neither is somebody voting without an explanation early on in the game.
And I'm supposed to know this... how?Sync wrote:
it's past RVS now.
"semi-random" is worse than "random".Please explain. As I said, it's just a light vote until something better comes up.
Also, your "semi-random" reasoning doesn't make sense -- how exactly did you interpret "I am not confident in my D1 abilities" as a scum-tell?As an excuse for lurking, of course.
You don't see people randomly voting people, do you? When there is actual conversation about the game, that generally means RVS is over.Ekaru wrote:
And I'm supposed to know this... how?Sync wrote:
it's past RVS now."semi-random" is worse than "random".Please explain. As I said, it's just a light vote until something better comes up.Also, your "semi-random" reasoning doesn't make sense -- how exactly did you interpret "I am not confident in my D1 abilities" as a scum-tell?As an excuse for lurking, of course.
I never claimed it to be random. Now you're just putting words into my mouth. Go read what I said again:Sync wrote:
Semi-random means that there is reasoning behind it, yet you claim it to be random which makes you look stupid.
Then half the people in this thread are scum for voting without giving a valid reason. That's what RVS is.RVS is when you vote without giving out a valid reason because there is nothing to go on. At the point in which I voted, all I had to go on was that little snippet of Drakari's. I was rebutting your point that voting without a reason this early on is a scum tell; again, there was nothing to go on at that point. Furthermore,
You don't see people randomly voting people, do you? When there is actual conversation about the game, that generally means RVS is over.Go look at the posts right before mine. There was no actual discussion about the game at all at that point, and two posts before mine LS voted on so-called "gut instinct" and is arguably "random."
case and pointEkaru wrote:
I'm claiming it's semi-random, yes.
Ekaru's sudden vote excuse when questioned is indeed scummy, but we still have 3 or so days left, and he's on L-2. So FoS: Ekaru for now.NoHItter wrote:
RQS:
1) What's your favorite role and alignment? Any role, but investigative/with people. Basically whatever with more information then the common townie.
2) Would you lynch lurkers? Prod -> Find Replacements -> Lynch if none are found
3) Would you rely on meta? Sometimes, but I don't go out to collect meta and shit
4) How often do you plan on posting? Once a day
Sync wrote:
and then he denied that he said the vote was random
vote: Ekaru
I never said the vote was random. I already said this.Sync wrote:
and then he denied that he said the vote was random
vote: Ekaru
All I did was do what I have seen other people do in mafia games; vote without much explanation because the reasoning behind their vote is implied.What I mean here is that the reasoning is implied in my quote.
The meaning of semi-random is universal.Ekaru wrote:
I never said the vote was random. I already said this.Sync wrote:
and then he denied that he said the vote was random
vote: Ekaru
I said it was semi-random; as in, it was only partially random. As in, there was reasoning behind it but it's not that serious of a vote. Again, stop putting words into my mouth. That is how people use "semi-random" where I live; to mean that it was kinda random, but not really.
All I did was do what I have seen other people do in mafia games; vote without much explanation because the reasoning behind their vote is implied. Ex. What Rantai did just now, what I've seen other people do in other games, etc. Am I supposed to not do what I've seen others do? Because that really makes no sense.
Also, RVS votes are not truly random. The reasoning behind it is typically ridiculous, but there is still reasoning. If the votes were truly random then RVS would be pretty much useless.
P.S. The post above this one was accidental. Ignore that.
The meaning of semi-random is universal.Semi-random simply means that it's not 100% random, but it also is not 0% random. That is the universal definition. I included a quote in my post so it was far more on the "not random" side of semi-random. When somebody says "random" and not "semi-random", they typically mean "100% random", AKA truly random, AKA not what my post said. Therefore you are indeed putting words into my mouth. Semi-random really isn't random by pure definition.
It's way past RVS and you should have known this.It currently is, but not when I posted. There was no discussion when I posted.
I'm not putting any words into your mouth -- in fact, I'm taking words directly from your posts
RVS votes are random. That is the whole point. The reason behind it is tacked on for fun, not because it is a serious reason like yours.As I've said for the billionth time, it was not really a serious vote. Just look at it. I quoted a post and then said "'K". I've also said a billion times that I planned on switching my vote the moment something better came up. Again, you're putting words into my mouth. I've been arguing this whole time that it was not a serious vote, and here you go again claiming that the reasoning was serious.
Rantai's vote was not random.Exactly my point! If you believe my vote was not really random like you claim it to be and are attacking it solely because there was no reasoning tacked onto it, then why the hell aren't you attacking Rantai's post? He's even worse, because he didn't even include a quote or any explanation in his post. His post is more scummy than mine was from a purely objective viewpoint. He gave less reasoning and I did and while I wasn't even so much as trying to start a bandwagon - again, you can tell this just by looking at my post - Rantai was bandwagoning on another person's post.
And this was like 2 weeks ago BTW.Ekaru wrote:
Furthermore, it is not ludicrous to claim that you do not know the point of RVS because in a Newbie Game on mafiascum.net you claimed that you were not that experienced.
You were being inconsistent.Rantai wrote:
I NEED CONSISTENCY
Now you are indeed putting words into my mouth. Go read the thread again. I never said that I thought it was RVS because of what Rantai said. I said I thought it was still in RVS because at the time that I posted there was not much discussion. You are in fact making shit up now.Sync wrote:
so you say you thought it was still RVS because of what Rantai did...
I'm laughing at the fact that you saw that and you are using it to your advantage in this gameIt's called meta.
FYI, the definition of experienced is subjective.The definition of what is "semi-random" is also subjective. I only partially voted because of that post. I also voted for the hell of it, which is what people do in RVS.
Your vote was not "semi-random" because you voted him because of a post he madeI voted partially because of a post he made and, again, partially for the hell of it. "for the hell of it" typically qualifies as "random"; ex. If you, say, suddenly start singing for the hell of it, people will call it "random behavior".
you aren't making any senseMy argument makes more sense than your claiming that I thought it was RVS because of what Rantai did. I was clearly using it to show that your argument is flawed. My argument is that claiming that somebody is scum just because they voted without explanation is fucking retarded.
Also, you agree that Rantai's vote was not random... okay...Exactly. You claim my post isn't random in the slightest and, therefore, the same logic would apply to Rantai because his vote isn't random.
2. I already told you the meaning of experienced is completely subjective. Your meta is bullshit: are you trying to say that I don't know what RVS is? Are you telling me that everything I am saying now is null because I said I was inexperienced on a completely different website?Ekaru wrote:
All I did was do what I have seen other people do in mafia games; vote without much explanation because the reasoning behind their vote is implied. Ex. What Rantai did just now, what I've seen other people do in other games, etc. Am I supposed to not do what I've seen others do? Because that really makes no sense.
...Sync wrote:
Ekaru wrote:
All I did was do what I have seen other people do in mafia games; vote without much explanation because the reasoning behind their vote is implied. Ex. What Rantai did just now, what I've seen other people do in other games, etc. Am I supposed to not do what I've seen others do? Because that really makes no sense.
2. I already told you the meaning of experienced is completely subjective.And I already told you that whether or not the game is still in RVS at the exact point in time that I posted my vote is subjective. Both things are subjective. What is subjective is both ways. Whether or not somebody's action is semi-random is also subjective because, as I've said, semi-random is an extremely vague term; if an action is 0.001% random, then it's semi-random, and if an action is 99.99% random then it is STILL semi-random. Or at least, that's the way it's commonly used. It could technically mean something else, but that is irrelevant.
Ekaru is digging himself a grave lolThis scenario is extremely similar to what happened in Themeless Mafia. EXTREMELY similar. Sync, you're once again scum. You're taking something that isn't really a scum tell and trying to start a bandwagon on me. As we've seen from that game and other games, scum try to get bandwagons going on D1. I never tried to start a bandwagon, but you are. You're scum, scum, scum. You're taking things that are subjective and claiming that they aren't subjective when, in fact, they are.
this is awesome
I never said the former. At all. I'm not sure if you knew this, but in English if someone says "Ex." in front of something, that means it's an example. Rantai is an example of somebody who voted without an explanation, and I said that because of that and because his vote was clearly not random, your argument would also apply to him. That is all I said. I never said it looked semi-random; in fact, I even said the opposite. I never said what you're claiming me to say. Are you really that desperate that you have to twist what I'm saying so severely?Sync wrote:
"I saw Rantai post a vote that seemed 'semi-random', am I not supposed to do what other people do?"
"I didn't vote because of Rantai! I never said that!"
To make it even worse, it's completely irrelevant! I didn't even start a bandwagon on you and I unvoted.Uh, yes it is relevant? It's a really similar situation. You unvoted after you realized that the bandwagon was not going to work in an attempt to not look scummy; therefore, the unvote is irrelevant. You did in fact start the bandwagon by being the one who attacked me and claimed I was acting scummy over and over again, just like you are now. Who made the first vote is irrelevant because you planned on voting for me in the first place as clearly proven by the quicktopic. You are using the same strategy you used in another game where you were scum. It's relevant because it's some of the most solid meta out there - similar situation, same people, etc.
Whoever has the most votes at the deadline will be lynched.Sync wrote:
mod: Do you need a hammer to lynch somebody or is it majority?