shit son you want an argument I missed your post but you can get one

alright guys it's time to play
SAD SCUM, THE ANIMATED SERIES OR: HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND CALL OUT TWO MAFIA IN A ROW

Are we still RVSing around? It's kinda hard to tell, because you guys are actually justifying your votes

SAY G'DAY TO BMIN on day one, right after or right in RVS, you don't even need context for this one. bmin asking if RVS is over means that he doesn't want to drag out of RVS too fast OR stay into it too long to rouse suspicion. By making it a question he's putting it up to someone else he can ride to victory later on.

Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?

THIS LITTLE DITTY is one of the most classic scumplays I have ever seen: you put an argument out there and then don't do anything with it and leave it as an option so when a bw starts you can just throw that on the pile and look like you're not sheeping. Sync saying that Ekaru has me on him meant that with someone taking Ekaru's side the lynch or kill on him would've been more valuable, but bmin makes it sound as if Sync sheeped because "it's wojjan of course it's good" which when you check the context is totally not the case

This post is the only reason I switched to 0_o. I just doubt bmin calling animask and mashley out on bussing is bussing of his own, but I definitely wouldn't put that past him because calling mash out would earn him major town cred, plus he has another member beside the two backing him up.

I'm up Lilac just purely for his inactiveness.

By the way, how many mafias do you guys expect?
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Good point

My lynch list: Lilac, DxS, 0_o
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this whole shebang

It takes bmin three different posts to say that all the people he is intent on lynching haven't contributed. ALL THREE lurk a lot, there is not a single even remotely active player in the list. Thing is this is on day three. Why doesn't he address anything that happened other than the lynches of last night? He is superduper lurking himself to the point that he only drops by when I remind him of my vote on him, so why is he voting lurkers too?

bmin is picking apart the play from the scumteam but absolutely ignoring any dispute in town beside that, either because he just doesn't care since he'll have to kill them all the same or because he so desperately doesn't want to pick sides because in the event that a lynch goes through on a townie he'll lose face.

Alright sorry guys, I forgot about this option until now, but I'm going to ask for a replacement at the end of the day. I thought I could get back into it this game but honestly I just can't see it panning out.

I'm postponing it both to give Dafydd time to catch up, and to not waste his time if I'm being lynched.

Wojjan wrote:

SAY G'DAY TO BMIN on day one, right after or right in RVS, you don't even need context for this one. bmin asking if RVS is over means that he doesn't want to drag out of RVS too fast OR stay into it too long to rouse suspicion. By making it a question he's putting it up to someone else he can ride to victory later on.

I couldn't quite understand this part. Can you explain what that bmin11 was trying to do and the gain of it?

Wojjan wrote:

Well we now see that Sync is Wojjan's follower, huh?

Fixed. tbh I posted that because addressing that as part of the reasoning makes me quite sad. Opinion shouldn't differ from the source it comes from, but Sync posted that the information came from you, thus a believable and a reliable information. It's a play style I do not respect so much... However, I couldn't take it as a scum tell, because the only way for that to work is to believe both of you guys to be mafia. I atleast didn't believe you (Wojjan) was mafia, so I didn't proceeded with it any farther. Question?

Wojjan wrote:

there is not a single even remotely active player in the list.

Because I believe Mafia has lost their interest in this game? Have you even followed my posts? I think I've posted enough that indicates the possibility of mafia afk-ing (animask lynch and peaceful N2). Plus, I don't really suspect any of the active player right now. Most of them are quite confirmed on my note. For example, foulcoon and Ekaru.

Wojjan wrote:

Why doesn't he address anything that happened

Tell me, what happened? I don't remember anything that casts my suspicion, other then animask and Mashley.

Wojjan wrote:

He is superduper lurking himself

I admit. I couldn't come up with anything much for myself to post. Lack of motivation or interest? or my head just not working? could be either I guess.

Wojjan wrote:

so why is he voting lurkers too?

Because I don't suspect much of the active players, and thus, leaving the others on my suspicion list. Why, should I just not cast any suspicions? If that helps town, I'll stop.

Wojjan wrote:

ignoring any dispute in town

Tell me what happened. I might have skim read, so inform me for the good of town (I actually liked JInx's short recap).

Wojjan wrote:

he so desperately doesn't want to pick sides

Again, I don't see the point of voting on this early stage. I'll vote the most suspicious one at the end of the day.

Wojjan wrote:

a lynch goes through on a townie he'll lose face.

Was there any town lynches I didn't vote one? Actually, was there even a town lynch? The only possible town lynch is the 0_o lynch and to have this reason to be valuable is for you to believe 0_o is town. So tell me, do you think I'm not voting 0_o because 0_o is town?

I'll wait for your respond

Replacement without an attempt on saving himself (like claiming a role). Well that's a good confirmation on my note.

Vote: 0_o

so whoever I say is town you assume is town? good to know for the next game I'm scum in
why don't you doubt me? or foulcoon? Or Ekaru really I was wrong about nohitter too wasn't I

foulcoon because he killed two mafias. Ekaru because of the D1 incident (got animask lynched with his 2nd vote gj). You because you lynched Mashley and we didn't had much votes (you are semi-confirmed AKA in better position then others).

bmin11 wrote:

Replacement without an attempt on saving himself (like claiming a role). Well that's a good confirmation on my note.

Vote: 0_o

..why would I roleclaim just because I wanted to be replaced?

I'm not making a grand effort to save myself because like I said, lynching a player who isn't going to be active (like myself) isn't a bad idea since it eliminates the "wildcards" that you don't want at LyLo. And again, my interest has faded enough that it doesn't really matter to me if I'm lynched or not.

I didn't believe your argument on NoHItter. Actually, I didn't really suspect anyone at D1 and that's why I didn't vote (more like missed the chance, but you know what I mean)

LadySuburu wrote:

Vote: Bmin

Reasoning?

If you don't mind being lynched, why ask for a replacement to start with? It really rubs me on the wrong way.

the living players right now are:
1.DeathxShinigami
2.Wojjan
3.LadySuburu
5.0_o
6.JInxyjem
7.Sync
8.Ekaru
9.bmin11
11.Ivalset
12.Rantai
13.foulcoon
15.Lilac

taking away everyone you've mentioned so far

3.LadySuburu
6.JInxyjem
7.Sync
11.Ivalset
12.Rantai

makes five people you haven't even considered, some of which have lurked more, and against their meta you admit to be down with in 2of4. You just picked at random because you just don't care

vote bminscrew you ekaru if it makes you feel better we'll lynch 0_o tomorrow

LS because of DxS Mason thing
JInx because of being cautious of the game (knowing D2 has ended)
Sync is on the lurker list, thus I'm okay with him.
Ivalset ^ + providing informations, but not casting much suspicions on others worries me
Rantai I didn't really thought of. Let me read his ISO

LS apparently just votes and leaves?

and that "LS JINX SYNC IVALSET RANTAI" post was posted within 2~3 minutes. Just posting this so no one will argue "Oh now you just went through the thread and posted it"

I don't have enough interest in this game today to explain fully my reasoning, but not little enough to stop looking and voting or to look for replacement (since my interest will come back up soon, just kinda meh today).

That being said, if I'm a potential lynch target at all, I offer myself as a lynch to confirm DxS since my role isn't the greatest and I've been mostly lurkreading this game.

I will say that bmin's long post kinda feels off to me, but I don't really know how to explain it.

...

I'm going to cry if I get lynched for that reason ;_;

Wojjan wrote:

vote bminscrew you ekaru if it makes you feel better we'll lynch 0_o tomorrow

That works, yeah.

So weird, bmin's post in general seems rather odd, or possibly just not realizing 0_o's direct intentions. (Possibly just looking for an easy excuse for lynch bait)

Also, Foulcoon where are you? Otherwise I won't motivate you tonight...

Is Salvage around here for the vote count and the time until the end of D3?

Game ends at 3am for me Pretty funky end time really. Bet he'll be up since "Argentina"

Ekaru wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

vote bminscrew you ekaru if it makes you feel better we'll lynch 0_o tomorrow

That works, yeah.

you say yeah but as it stands 0_o is getting lynched

can you now respond to my respond post?

I haven't done any lurking this game.

Wojjan wrote:

you say yeah but as it stands 0_o is getting lynched

Oh, right.

unvote
vote bmin

I wasn't home doing a votecount sry

Your thoughts, Ekaru?

VOTE COUNT:


bmin11 (3) - Wojjan, LadySuburu, Ekaru
0_o (2) - Rantai, bmin11



Not voting (8) -DeathxShinigami, 0_o, JInxyjem, Sync, Ivalset, Rantai, foulcoon, Lilac





DEADLINE IS IN 10 HOURS

bmin11 wrote:

Your thoughts, Ekaru?

I'm still up for a lurker lynch, because of how inactive the mafia side was even we had two mafia lynches. We even had a no NK situation and since Salvage is choosing the least beneficial, I'm guessing Salvage just directed the shot to someone with protections and such. I'm basing this on a claim that mafia has lost their interest for this game.

Who else said, "Let's lynch the lurkers"? Mashley, who was scum. Plus, you completely ignored the possibility of a correct doctor guess, which is quite likely.

Also, seeing what you flip will help decide what to do tomorrow.

Salvage wrote:

VOTE COUNT:


bmin11 (3) - Wojjan, LadySuburu, Ekaru
0_o (2) - Rantai, bmin11



Not voting (8) -DeathxShinigami, 0_o, JInxyjem, Sync, Ivalset, Rantai, foulcoon, Lilac





DEADLINE IS IN 10 HOURS

Rantai's in the list twice.

Ekaru wrote:

Who else said, "Let's lynch the lurkers"? Mashley, who was scum.

I actually never knew Mashley suggested stuff like that hmm... But my point is that the lack of activity from the mafia side is bugging me.

Ekaru wrote:

Plus, you completely ignored the possibility of a correct doctor guess, which is quite likely.

Is there a post where I said "NO MAFIA MUST HAVE JUST SENT NO NK"? I'm pretty sure I was posting more like "It is possible that Mafia simply just afk'd and Salvage just chose the NK target that has a protection with it"

Ekaru wrote:

Also, seeing what you flip will help decide what to do tomorrow.

What's your plan if I flip town?

k ignore rantai on the not voting list i did it fast

bmin11 wrote:

What's your plan if I flip town?

Vote for 0_o or his replacement, naturally.

and how does my alignment has to do with 0_o?

bmin11 wrote:

and how does my alignment has to do with 0_o?

It doesn't. I just feel that the odds of you both being scum is very low.

But we both could be town? Lynching me has nothing to prove against 0_o. I really don't think my lynch will provide any info for you guys if that's your reasoning for lynching me.

Ofcourse, I still believe 0_o is mafia.

Okay next question for you, Ekaru. What makes me more suspicious then 0_o?

I've waited for 30 minutes and you just glance and leave. That broke my heart ;_;

bmin11 wrote:

I've waited for 30 minutes and you just glance and leave. That broke my heart ;_;

It takes me a while to think of what to respond with. I originally a long reply written up, but decided not to go with it.

Anyways, I'm going to stick with my vote on you now simply because you're pressuring me and solely me with all kinds of questions instead of giving me the type of defense you did against Wojjan.

But we both could be town? Lynching me has nothing to prove against 0_o. I really don't think my lynch will provide any info for you guys if that's your reasoning for lynching me.

What I meant was that if you're mafia, then 0_o isn't likely to be mafia because I highly doubt that 3 mafia would all be, "Let's be cautious!".

Ekaru wrote:

Anyways, I'm going to stick with my vote on you now simply because you're pressuring me and solely me with all kinds of questions instead of giving me the type of defense you did against Wojjan.

This is my defense

Reason why I'm pressuring you:
Because YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO'S READING THIS THREAD. If I had anyone else, like LS or Wojjan, I would be trying to pursway them as well. You know how desperate I am right now, having only you as my only option?


EDIT: fixed the link

Since no one is willing to read my response post I have posted for Wojjan, I'm going to recap stuff for you guys.

Reason why Wojjan thinks bmin11 mafia:

• 1) bmin11 wanted to stop the RVS stage
  2) Attempt on scumpainting Sync and Wojjan as a mafia pair
  3) Wants a lurker lynch on D3
  4) Does not contributes much
  5) We have pleeeenty of mislynches

And the counter-argument from bmin11:
Counter for (1)
I don't see how that gave the scum read. Can't see why mafia would specifically want it.

Counter for (2)
Was a rhetorical question and sarcastic comment. I never pursued afterward too, meaning I wasn't thinking of lynching you guys for that reasoning.

Counter for 3)
Everyone should agree the activeness of this game is pretty much dead and that inactiveness gave two mafia lynches, thus meaning mafia is probably afk. So, lurkers should definitely be on the lynch list if we don't have anyone to lynch.

No counters for 4). I admit.

Counter for 5)
Terrible reasoning. You can never justify a mislynch, so don't even attempt for it.




Now the comparison between two possible lynches we have, 0_o and bmin11

What 0_o has done:
1. Not contributing much
2. Haven't voted anyone
3. agrees with lurker lynches
4. asks for a replacement while being on the top of the lynch list


bmin11:
1. Not contributing much
2. agrees with lurker lynches



Feel free to add more on those comparisons.



EDIT: fixed the link

Ekaru. What am I suppose to do? I've defended your arguments, proved them to be wrong or going to be useless, and fundamentally, asking why you think your vote is better then the other. Do I just have to blindly accept your vote without any agreeable justifications ;___;?

Oh, okay, I'll just go back to my original vote for now then.

unvote
vote 0_o

Phew, thank you.

Also, can somebody who hasn't voted yet please get their ass in here? Why do I have to be the one who pretty much makes the deciding vote at this point? :< I'm, like, the last person who should be doing that dammit!

Wait a goddamn second. Lilac said he hasn't posted because of his modem. But, I saw him lurking before that and still not posting... Hmmmmmmmmmm

He got his modem back, but he became inactive regardless of it.

Oh and yes, we need more people to vote. Remember, we still have a mafia double voter around here (if that vote didn't come from Mashley)

bmin11 wrote:

He got his modem back, but he became inactive regardless of it.

What I mean is that I saw him on a few days before he came in proclaiming, "Sorry, my modem broke!" and yet he still didn't post during that time frame. His modem being broken does not explain why he was lurking earlier in the game. Like, Day 2 earlier.

Definetly not voting for bmin, Generally misunderstood but props to him if he wins on his own just like his debut game.

Jesus though bmin, that's one hell of a defense.

I'll vote before going to bed for the night.

The hell? Am I really starting to flip flop on the 0_o lynch?

And with Lilac's so called issues, I've noticed myself too that he's still on the forums even in this subforum so problems or not there's no real excuse for him since he hasn't even called up for a replacement.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

And with Lilac's so called issues, I've noticed myself too that he's still on the forums even in this subforum so problems or not there's no real excuse for him since he hasn't even called up for a replacement.

Yeah, he's full of it. He was intentionally lurking prior to his modem issues - on D2 for Christ's sake - and is still doing that bullcrap. There's a difference between being gone for a couple days due to your modem going kaput and intentionally lurking for days upon days without posting. You know what? Screw a 0_o lynch; I'd rather lynch the liar (and yes, trying to pass off all of your prior lurking as being due to your modem issues is lying).

unvote
vote Lilac

You know that I'm on the top of the lynch list with that vote, right?

Nope,

Vote: Lilac

Reasons explained in post above.

We have around.... 6 hours before the end of D3.

Lilac was somewhat active after being called out, but I agree he faded our afterward. The only other explanation I can think of why Lilac isn't on right now is the time difference. Pretty much the same as why Rantai isn't online right now (they are from same time zone, right?)

Bah, don't make me vote Lilac. I still believe 0_o is mafia.

bmin11 wrote:

We have around.... 6 hours before the end of D3.

Lilac was somewhat active after being called out, but I agree he faded our afterward. The only other explanation I can think of why Lilac isn't on right now is the time difference. Pretty much the same as why Rantai isn't online right now (they are from same time zone, right?)

His current lack of activity isn't the problem.

The problem is that he lurked prior to his modem issues, and tried to pass off that as being due to his modem troubles.

You guys would talk while I'm at uni.

And before you guys start basing accusations on me 'lurking' and correlating that to me being mafia;

My time table sucks crap. I have from about now and until 6 hours later to post.

Also I'm still adamant on 0_o's lynch as I'm not 100% convinced that Lilac is intentionally lurking (he could be browsing on a phone intermittently, with his parents removing the modem. Just a guess for now but seems plausible).

Plus at this stage both are lurking (your reason, not mine) except one has displayed more scumtells than the other (in my perspective).

I need to sleep guys i'll end the day a few hours later.

Rantai wrote:

I'm not 100% convinced that Lilac is intentionally lurking (he could be browsing on a phone intermittently, with his parents removing the modem. Just a guess for now but seems plausible).

I feel this is possible. After all, that's what I've been doing the whole day at school. However, hasn't he already gotten his modem back?

Lilac wrote:

Lurking?

I was gone without a modem for several days. I made that clear.

Lilac, hopefully you'll clarify this before Salvage ends the day.

Now between facey and bmin, I feel facey's ISO is more scummy after his tired tone and giving up, possibly after 2 scum were easily lynched.

vote: 0_o

Just for the record, I didn't give up because we were losing, but because with my interest already faded I just couldn't handle the effort of keeping up the charade.

Third time in a row I've rolled mafia. I've forgotten how to play like a townie

VOTE COUNT:


0_o (5) - Rantai, bmin11, Ekaru, Ivalset, JInxyjem
bmin11 (3) - Wojjan, LadySuburu
Lilac (1) - DeathxShinigami


Not voting (4) -0_o, Sync,foulcoon, Lilac



0_o - Mafia Lawyer - Lynched D3


IT IS NOW NIGHT 3, DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS

Just posting to say a lot of errors within the actual vote totals.

Doesn't change the results though.

point one i'd like to see it (really i do cause i don't see where i missed a vote lol)

Three votes on bmin11 while there's only two

Ekaru's vote should be on Lilac, not 0_o

Fair enough i missed Ekaru's vote on previous page



also i allways fuck up the number cause im too lazy to redo the votecount and i work from the previous one sry

Let me see if I can explain myself because it might be a while before I have the Internet again...typing on a phone.

I get the modem taken off me at the end of the weekend. The only reason I appear in the DxS forums is that it is the only forum that's not blocked at school since osu! is always blocked...

Sorry about that.

I need to come back home to end the day so it'll be in 5 hours or so.

Massclaim time. Correct or add?


1.DeathxShinigami - Motivator, Mason
2.Wojjan - Oracle
3.LadySuburu - Mason
6.JInxyjem -
7.Sync -
8.Ekaru -
9.bmin11 -
11.Ivalset -
12.Rantai -
13.foulcoon -
15.Lilac -

Claim: Cop

Results: Rantai Town (N1 scan) 0_o mafia (N2 scan) Sync mafia (N3 scan)

GG


Vote: Sync

ty bmin. Vote: Sync
this is basically game over anyway because if he's not scum then we just vote you off and if you're not scum we're still 6 town - 1 scum

k let me get myself clear before someone asks why I didn't claim yesterday + why I didn't vote 0_o right off the bat.

Reason why I didn't claim:
1) I didn't really expect myself to be a NK target.
2) I wanted the Doctor to protect someone else.
3) I didn't expected to be lynched (until LS voted me with his gut feeling).

Reason why I lurked:
1) to look suspicious (mafia don't kill suspicious townies).

Reason why I didn't vote 0_o at the start of D3:
1) because I didn't want to claim Cop and without claiming it, I wouldn't have been able to bring up a solid reasoning.
2) 0_o was already on the top of the lynch at the start, so I thought I was able to bypass and make mafia think I was clueless.

I think I justified most of the suspicious stuff.

ya gg

shoot: Sync

one shot vig lolololol

lol

I cannot WAIT to find out how none of our kills worked.

farewell~

Crazy.

I will rage so hard if my shot somehow fails like in jesterfest

nvm

@Faceman: Mafia kill on D2 was redirected by Ekaru (Bus Driver) from Wojjan to LadySuburu and foulcoon (Doctor) protected LadySuburu so the kill failed, D3 Sync just didn't send a kill.




releasin roles in a bit

good job guys

I really didn't expect town to win that severely

mafia had good roles too

i blame myself for mafia losing

I was sleeping during the night kill and I was inactive the whole game

sorry 0_o and Mashley

...and animask

JInxyjem wrote:

I will rage so hard if my shot somehow fails like in jesterfest

jinxy this is a desperate move on your end

bringing another active game into an active game

why is ivalset always some sort of thief

because he's kawaii

gg scum, you got oooowned

Salvage wrote:

@Faceman: Mafia kill on D2 was redirected by Ekaru (Bus Driver) from Wojjan to LadySuburu and foulcoon (Doctor) protected LadySuburu so the kill failed, D3 Sync just didn't send a kill.

lolwut.

I didn't really deserve a protect, but I guess that worked out.

gj guys, did all the work for me, I didn't get to do anything this game.

Sync wrote:

i blame myself for mafia losing

I was sleeping during the night kill and I was inactive the whole game

sorry 0_o and Mashley

...and animask

lol don't apologize to me, I did nothing.

It was a TEAM failure ^_^

You almost killed me

This game is a good example why mafia shouldn't lurk.

gj town


P.S. Mafia Chat please. I'm still confused what the hell was going on for D1.

Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/bijJXinfMtjY

Mason QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/MDprUUHWX2p

In my pro delusional mind, DxS, Rantai and Mashley will be my mafia partners

Mafia and I go hand in hand now do they. ;___;