Kitsunemimi wrote:
If there was some way for me to transfer all of my game hours over from Xfire to Evolve, then I'll sign up immediately (and be forced to nag all my friends to switch too).
The hours import feature from what I heard is a work in progress (so it should return at some point in the future). I was lucky to get my hours transferred right when the import feature first became live.
Galkan wrote:
From what my friends were saying, Skyrim had tendencies to crash even upon opening Steam overlay (and judging by dozens of bugs it had) so I'd say it's more fault of poorly game code.
If you were on Xfire forums when Skyrim support was first made (or even MW3) you would of seen the amount of people complaining specifically of Xfire being the cause of those crashes. Here is one thread out of many:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... ?t=2229809You will struggle to find any user claiming to have Evolve crash games
Galkan wrote:
Last time I had used Skype was about 2 years ago (or maybe more) and its quality was worse than TS2. Unless Skype's quality has improved to at least decent level, I'm marking this one as disadvantage (I'm not using Xtalk function either).
I heard it recently and it sounded pretty good. I don't have any technical specs of it though, nor am I even 100% sure about Evolve using Skype's codec.
Galkan wrote:
Unless game doesn't have official XIG code prepared (which sucks), almost every of Xfire issue in that case is user-related, not software-related. I never had any problems with anti-cheat softwares either, so I don't know what you're talking here about.
Nope. The issues with Xfire and key bleedthroughs and crashes are on Xfire's side only due to how they hook into games. The general point I'm trying to make is, Xfire's hooking method is inferior to Evolve's. As for anti-cheat, I agree I haven't had any issues with Xfire, but in any case, your more likely to trip one on Xfire then Evolve.
Galkan wrote:
I agree that Xfire should have more people to keep their forum cleaned up. Point.
No, Xfire needs more people who know how to moderate. There used to be 3 other moderators on the forums, but they locked and hid legitimate threads a lot (these 3+ moderators were all chosen one day, and all removed about a month or two later)
Galkan wrote:
Wooohoooo, wooohooo, I think I have just read a finest joke in this month I thought you were about to be serious.
I've been using Xfire since April 2008 and never had this toolbar installed. Nowhere - because it is NOT obligatory. As far as I remember, Xfire asks you whether you want install it or not upon installing the client. Simple unchecking the box solves the problem.
It isn't needed, this is true. But you are asked if you want it, and if you want to track browser games, it is required. Point is, Conduit is not trusted, and why any company chooses to make a toolbar with Conduit is beyond me.
http://www.xfire.com/forums/182686/topic/3069204/Galkan wrote:
And how are they positioned? Client - 1 small ad above the friendlist, so you almost do not notice it unless you work at low screen resolution (so Xfire uses more space, obviously). Site - okay, 5, but still everything is set up to show content in the best way. In fact I have never really minded them. At least they're not pop-ups :-D
Still, I'd rather see no ads at all. Plus on another note, Evolve has managed to do everything they've done so far, without funding of any kind, not even from ads, and from 3 developers. What has Xfire managed to do in the past months/year with all the money they generate on ads and that 4 million Intel gave them?
Galkan wrote:
And how does it affect Xfire (or me, as a user) in any way? Those "find friends" ads don't bugger me. Or did I misunderstand something?
It might not directly affect you, but it will affect users with strict firewall rules as seen here:
http://www.xfire.com/forums/182686/topic/2247958/Imagine logging into Xfire from a public place or university, and then having to explain why you have any involvement with an adult website.. with a gaming client...
Galkan wrote:
And what exactly do you mean by "far better experience with the web browser in-game"? I'm assuming you mean the overlay here?
The overlay and the Home browser. For an example of how bad Xfire is with IE, go use Internet Explorer 9 (just have it installed) and then look at game icons in the Xfire client. Should be blurry. Then go back to IE8, then your back to the high-quality icons again.
Galkan wrote:
Screens taken by Xfire are only a bit darker than they should (which is again, almost unnoticeable). If screens taken by Evolve are in perfect brightness - sure, you get a point here.
If I recall right, Xfire's screenshots aren't of native resolution
Galkan wrote:
As far as I remember their answer was unless game is big and/or publisher contacts them himself, they won't count it as really urgent case to fix. If you really mind it, the publisher listed after osu! is "Peppy" Nothing really related to client functionality itself.
Even if this is the case, I bugged Xfire for over a month, and in that month, there were a few (lacking) game updates too, which at any time could of contained the updated osu! name. Point is, Xfire could of changed this at any time, but had to be constantly bugged to do so, and therefore they don't care
Galkan wrote:
And what's so wrong in these parts? No one really likes competition (and potential flamewars between users of other applications), thing's self-explanatory.
As true as this is, no user should just be banned upon mention of a competitor
Galkan wrote:
Interesting, I never knew that gamehours were pictures. Maybe that's because there never was a reason to actually click them? And if what you're saying is true, I even do see reason behind it - to prevent Evolve (I've never heard of Raptr either, by the way) copying hours to their base and then later saying "Hey people look, our software is so awesome that gamers really want to stay with us by showing how many hours they've spent with us!" Sounds like a conspiracy theory, would you say? So do sound your arguments (especially the toolbar one).
The gamehour pictures don't even work for every user either. There is a reason why Xfire switched from using pictures back to text in the past, and that same reason exists today (I have at least 3 friends who can't see the pictures at all for some reason). Plus the pictures don't scale well on certain screens and setups, and generally don't look as good. Point being, Xfire is willing to screw people over just to stop 2 (yes only 2) competitors from getting game time.
Galkan wrote:
I have asked about 30 friends who are using Xfire if they have ever heard of Evolve. Only one person knew and he shared my opinion: "Xfire's clone". Everyone also said that Steam (those who use) + Xfire duo is enough for them and they do not want any additional kind of this software installed. Pretty nice summary, ain't it?
It doesn't surprise me that anyone who hasn't tried Evolve automatically think of it as an Xfire clone. This would be like me using Windows ME, and hearing of Windows 7 and saying "It's just a Windows ME clone, no big deal at all. Windows ME > 7 for life!" (while Windows 7 has many benefits over ME obviously, how would I know unless I tried it?)
You don't have to use Evolve if you really don't want to, but I have only 1 friend (out of about 30) who has tried Evolve and chooses not to use it (with legitimate reason). You might not wish to just transfer to another service (especially if you have a lot of game hours ranked up on Xfire), but I believe the benefits of Evolve alone are enough to justify loosing (and being able to regain those hours later) those game hours. For those who are too lazy to try Evolve or can't be bothered, idk what I can say to convince you otherwise...
So I'll just say "Don't knock it until you try it". It's not like you lose anything either from just trying Evolve right? (maybe some disk space and a tiny bit of time to
register)