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Two_old
ladysuburu is part-doctor

that's what a jailkeeper is
Wojjan
sounds good but what if LS doesn't go on Two just for shits and giggles because he's like that
Chris_old
hopefully you'll die
Luna
yet you claimed he was anti-town and want him dead.
So keeping him on you is anti-town but lynching him isn't?
Wojjan
see lilac this is why you allow oneshot selfdoccing
Chris_old
NoHItter
animask
pieguy
Sync
Backfire
dkun
LadySuburu
Dafydd
Ivalset

do these people ever post
Two_old

Luna wrote:

yet you claimed he was anti-town and want him dead.
So keeping him on you is anti-town but lynching him isn't?
wanting to keep a roleblocker on a pro-town player is anti-town

wanting to keep a doctor on a bulletproof player is anti-town

I believe that leads the conclusion that you are anti-town

in fact, I'm willing to suspend my attack on ladysuburu indefinitely and instead lynch you

unvote, vote Luna
Wojjan
As long as it's Luna I'm cool with it.
Chris_old
zzz

I would rather kill LS over luna any day
Luna
So, keeping someone you said yourself is playing anti-town occupied with a Serial Killer is anti-town?
Sure
Two_old
ok, what if wojjan uses their vigilante kill on luna and I kill who wojjan wants sans chris, then we lynch someone who doesn't post?

unvote
Chris_old
why don't we lynch LS, wojjan shoots luna and you kill someone who doesn't post
Wojjan
Then you just kill me anyway.
I'm not stupid.
Two_old

Wojjan wrote:

Then you just kill me anyway.
I'm not stupid.
that makes no sense
Luna
I'd like to point out that Two =/= pro-town
He's a freaking SK

Yet you all follow him like he's Jesus or something.
Two_old
I'm a sensible serial killer

one who also can turn town, thank you very much
Wojjan
Why would you kill who I pick.
I'll vig a lurker you kill Luna if you want rid of them so bad
Chris_old
this game is only active with like 4 people it's pretty boring honestly

I think there is like 5 people who haven't posted once and they could all be mafia
Luna
One who CLAIMS that he can turn town. And even then, you'd likely kill two town players before turning.
Two_old
the idea is that we perform each other's kill choices wojjan
Rantai
I'm only really up for a LS or Two lynch at this stage. LS for the blatant admittance of basically going against town and all and Two because I am fine with lynching a SK at anytime.

I don't care what alignment you may or may not be able to be mainly because it's purely down how well you lie about it.
Chris_old
I am still mad I couldn't turn it back d1 :(

also this ??? bullshit on kills pretty much negates any information for scum hunting you could get through that
Chris_old
for the record I still want LS lynched

wojjan you kill luna
two you kill who wojjan says

k thats decided
Wojjan
yes I totally trust you with this.

actually sure I'll amuse you

I would oneshot vig Backfire.
You?
NoHitter
Yes I was planning to post, but I was busy finalizing roles for the game I'm hosting.

So Two claims to have been jailed by LS.
Two claims that LS is a Jailer who blocks up to the day.
Then we have Wojjan who just claimed JoAT and said to have used the one-shot Roleblock on Two instead.

Wait a minute.
That still doesn't explain Chris' ability not working.

We already have a Jailkeeper (semi-blocker) and a One-Shot Roleblocker (from JoAT).
So we have three roles that can block?
Luna

Chris wrote:

also this ??? bullshit on kills pretty much negates any information for scum hunting you could get through that
I'm pretty sure there's a coroner for town or some other way to find out that information (like my theory about Mystia).
Anything else would be a horribly stupid setup
Wojjan
Alright Luna
Chris_old
ladysuburu can day roleblock which was I assume intentionally designed for my role

which means they are anti town imo
Wojjan
Nohitter read the thread pls
LS had the ability of disallowing day actions
Rantai

Chris wrote:

ladysuburu can day roleblock which was I assume intentionally designed for my role

which means they are anti town imo
Yet these roles were determined before the submissions. I think it's just a general day roleblock (equally affecting scum and town).
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Chris wrote:

ladysuburu can day roleblock which was I assume intentionally designed for my role

which means they are anti town imo
Yet these roles were determined before the submissions. I think it's just a general day roleblock (equally affecting scum and town).
my role was modified even after I got my pm twice

I know they weren't
NoHitter
I thought the day roleblock affects whoever LS targets during the Night?
And that whoever LS targets gets to speak via a QT.

So shouldn't Two be the one who got roleblocked?
Chris_old

NoHItter wrote:

I thought the day roleblock affects whoever LS targets during the Night?
And that whoever LS targets gets to speak via a QT.

So shouldn't Two be the one who got roleblocked?
they roleblock everybody during the day

aka if there was a vigilante their shot wouldn't work and they'd lose it
Rantai
Hmmmm I see.

Also apparently it's a universal roleblock Hitter and Two did get blocked iirc.
Two_old
vote dafydd
Wojjan
vote dafydd
finally a lynch I can agree with
Chris_old
ok I'm good with that too

but fucking LS go away

unvote vote dafydd
Rantai
Hmm lurker lynches now. If we're going to that I'd rather wait for every single one to start talking.
Dafydd
Lol. I just like afked for awhile then I got this.
Anyway, I personally think a LS lynch would be more productive lol.
Then we could maybe, uhm shoot another inactive perhaps.

Seriously guys, I was just waiting for the right moment to post.
You like ninja'ed me 4x in D2 already.
Wojjan
alright
I wouldn't
since it's Dafydd
that's like waiting for last night's leftovers you spilled in the sink to evolve into sentience and take you hostage
Wojjan
ninjad by dafydd
the irony
NoHitter
Why don't we pressure vote all lurkers and force them to post something productive?
Vote: Dafydd
Wojjan
nohitter get your game in gear
NoHitter
Ninja'd by Wojjan and Dafyyd.
I guess that's somewhat some discussion?

Vote: dkun
Rantai
That was amusing, sorry.

Is there some sort of hate floating specifically around Dafydd?
Wojjan
yes
he joins then never posts
and then akrolsmr has to replace him
and then he dies the next day
and no one is happy :(
Sync

Chris wrote:

NoHItter
animask
pieguy
Sync
Backfire
dkun
LadySuburu
Dafydd
Ivalset

do these people ever post
I was sleeping and a lot has gone on in 2 hours

can someone explain why we are lynching lurkers now? seems unproductive as fuck (ironically)

Luna: can you give us any insight on your role
Wojjan
hi sync
hi backfire
i c u
Dafydd

Wojjan wrote:

alright
I wouldn't
since it's Dafydd
that's like waiting for last night's leftovers you spilled in the sink to evolve into sentience and take you hostage
Not really.
Just trying to think of helpful posts which you guys are actually better of.
I'll post like shit then in the next games. O.o

Fine then if it satisfies you all.
vote Dafydd


But of course there are more worse lurkers here than me lol.
Wojjan
selfvote is giving up
gogogogo no brakes
Rantai
Ahhh I didn't know that at least I can understand why you guys are voting.

Unvote

Still without anything to back it up apart from meta I'd still rather see the others as they are all equally useless.
Rantai
Oh a self vote huh.

Vote: Dafydd
NoHitter
Vote: Dafydd

A defeatist attitude like that is scummy.

Edit: So many ninjas.
Two_old
wojjan kill rantai instead please
Luna
What, why are you voting dafydd now, Rantai?
Just because he self-voted?
Sync
whatever

Vote: Dafydd

stupid daffy duck
Two_old
I love how everyone just pops out to vote for him lol
Sync

Luna wrote:

What, why are you voting dafydd now, Rantai?
Just because he self-voted?
any insight at all? :(
Wojjan
didn't you read anything luna
Two can I please still kill this stupid bitch
Two_old
I wouldn't doubt a day chat
Backfire

Sync wrote:

Chris wrote:

NoHItter
animask
pieguy
Sync
Backfire
dkun
LadySuburu
Dafydd
Ivalset

do these people ever post
I was sleeping and a lot has gone on in 2 hours
^^^^^

Plus i'm sick today with strep throat.

How can you say I don't post when this is like at 2 AM.
Do you expect everyone to be on 24/7?

Anyways, lynching inactive people isn't really the WORST idea, but it's not the best either. We could be lynching someone with a good role that just isn't on that much.
Two_old
no rantai sry
Rantai
I take it as a sign of giving up. Generally it turns out mafia when someone does that.
Backfire
Well nevermind, that guy is screwed.
Chris_old
time zones

your point is invalid
Luna
The initial votes on dafydd were to pressure him into posting, not because everyone was sure he's scum.
Now you guys are blindly running into a lynch with no basis, wtf
Chris_old
you're right

KILL LUNA
Wojjan
because he selfvoted
thiat is what a pressure vote is about
you vote for pressure
and then people cave under the pressure
NoHitter
Wrong Luna.
A self-vote shows that you have a defeatist attitude.
In addition with the AtE that he did before voting himself, it comes of as scummy.
Dafydd
@Wojjan:

I PM'd Two for a replacement. (I had good reason to do so)
In fact, I joined this game because I had a bit of time on my hands already lol.
You guys are just too fast.
Fine, I'll contribute like shit. Again.

Probably now, many of you have already posted after Rantai's post.
Two_old
as if mafia would accrue votes that easily without solid reasons

please just kill me nohitter so I can stop reading the bad logic/flimsy lies
Luna
It's not scummy enough to rush straight into a lynch without waiting for other people to post or any kind of discussion to start.
Also, most people here will agree that dafydd is probably not the best player around, so it's quite possible that he's just playing badly. I'm not defending him, I just don't get how you all can just rush into a lynch like that.
I also don't get why everyone here follows a SK like he's the messiah
Sync
who cares dafydd now tell us who you think is mafia
Chris_old
how many different words do you know for god like figures that have to do with some sort of religion
Luna
Not enough to appropriately describe how people treat Two around here
Rantai
Want to break the trend? As I said I'm always up for a Two lynch being basically a self confirmed SK.

Actually you know what you're right Unvote; Vote: Two
Chris_old
luna changed a lot when two voted for them
Wojjan
nah we are leaving LS around to fuck with Two
Luna
Out of all the proposed lynches so far, Two is definitely the one I'd go with.
But I'd still like to wait until other people actually start posting content. Most of the lurker posts so far have been "I've been away, vote dafydd" which ist not helping town
Rantai
Problem being LS is completely unpredictable.
Wojjan
well
yes
so?
Wojjan
don't get me wrong I am totally for a Two lynch but his biggest priorities are still his wincon and getting rid of LS
Rantai

Wojjan wrote:

nah we are leaving LS around to fuck with Two
- Unpredictable

- No guarantee that he'll be screwing with Two any further

If that is your only reason of keeping him alive then I am seeing a major flaw here.
Luna
As I said, if we keep them alive:
Either LS does something unpredictable and Two kills him (good use of SK kill on a player playing anti-town)
Or LS blocks Two again, taking two anti-town (or not-pro-town) players out of the equation
Backfire
I dont trust either one of them.
But we're going to lynch someone we dont know anything about?
Dafydd
Correction:
LS blocked Chris
Wojjan blocked Two
Rantai
With the janitor around we have no idea when he may get his win con. A stab in the dark at best.
Chris_old
LS wants two to win

lynch LS is logic

l2p
Wojjan
well
do you want to lynch Two or not
because I'd be up for it
but leaving LS to fuck around with the night is turning out greatly in my advantage as in I am still alive
Rantai

Chris wrote:

LS wants two to win

lynch LS is logic
So kill the one who can satisfy both their intentions.

Logic.

Edit: fail bold
Rantai
@Wojjan - while LS will be a pain in the ass he may still block a mafia randomly or prevent a night kill. A serial killer on the loose is far more detrimental at this stage.
Dafydd

Wojjan wrote:

but leaving LS to fuck around with the night is turning out greatly in my advantage as in I am still alive
Wait, I thought LS only targets day attacks?
Or, is it something different yer talking?
Wojjan
alright
vote: Two
Dafydd read then post
Rantai
LS can roleblock 1 person at night but also make them immune to night kills.
Backfire
Well I guess Vote Two
Wojjan
OH
now you all vote two
Sync
unvote vote: two

soz its stupid to keep a sk around for any longer
dkun

Sync wrote:

Chris wrote:

NoHItter
animask
pieguy
Sync
Backfire
dkun
LadySuburu
Dafydd
Ivalset

do these people ever post
I was sleeping and a lot has gone on in 2 hours

can someone explain why we are lynching lurkers now? seems unproductive as fuck (ironically)

Luna: can you give us any insight on your role
@chris, we all have lives too, normal people in the states aren't awake at 4AM
will be catching up on the thread over the next hour or so

@mod: confirm?
Wojjan
here's the gist for all the lurkers: Two claimed serial killer and wanted to act town so we let him
but now for some reason I was right all along in lynching him
Backfire
I blame whoever put a bandwagon on dafy.
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