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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory

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Salvage
do you really think you can win the game lynching me? it'd be hillarous but it won't happen



i would have picked another easy lynch target lilac but wow :(
Lilac
But wow...I'm actually trying...?

I'm not at all convinced that you're town. I don't think anyone else should be...but if they do I want to know why.
Salvage
yes im trying too, but you're going the wrong way




town has been awfully bad the entire game and thats why we're in the situation we're, i voted and lynched the people more scummy of everyone, you can go and check everyone that got lynched and the reasoning of my votes are them being extremely anti town


i don't expect you of being convinced that i'm town but you're risking way too much here (in case you're town ofc) and i won't allow this to happen cause it involves me loosing as well (or just me and u winning as mafia).


so please rethink things cause it's just not getting you anywhere on both alignments
Lilac
Okay, fine.

The next person I am more than likely convinced on being mafia is Chris. I can come up with another 3 paragraphs as to why but I want to see your opinion first, Salvage.
Salvage
about chris i think everything he said on the game is pretty logical but the way he said them is odd, so it could be he's mafia from my point of view



he said obvious things several times and it seems like he tried too hard to be town sometimes, i don't have any more than that tho so that's why i don't consider a chris lynch, there are more people i feel like 'safest' lynchs over him.
Salvage
also before you point it out, the thing of him 'surviving' just like wojjan and me its pure wifom to provoke a lynch on any of us, i'm not defending him in that case, im saying that argument its invalid.
Chris_old
lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafia

Lilac wrote:

Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
lol what
Chris_old
1. Lilac <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and suddenly posts paragraphs
3. JInxyjem <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and still contributes nothing
4. Salvage <-- contributes most of the game, name gets brought up and continues to post
5. bmin11 <-- posts a lot but doesn't really contribute anything
6. dkun <-- very emotional player, could go either way
7. pieguy1372 <-- mafia after akrolsmir died, role cop scanned him imo
8. Mashley <-- bad d1 but managed to survive the entire game, hasn't really contributed
9. Wojjan <-- lead most of the lynches, contributed a lot but always wrong
10. LunaticMara <-- very inactive/makes one video/bored of the game

I have yet to see anyone actually say anything they know from their roles, which sort of makes me realize why town has sucked the entire game

I'll start it off: roleclaim watcher

dkun is definitely odd night commuter because I watched him n3 and my "ability didn't work"

salvage is the person who picked my role because he said he picked watcher

I picked animasks role
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Salvage (2): dkun, Lilac
Wojjan (1): Chris
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Chris_old
why all of you aren't voting wojjan is beyond me

they are hardly confirmed town, in fact they are probably the most anti town person here

even dkun with his 2 votes is less mafia
pieguyn
@_@ what in the

I don't know what to even think anymore, so I'm just going to go back to my first gut instinct. vote: Wojjan

Aside from that, I think it might be JInxyjem. I agree that he just seems to be posting "enough to avoid suspicion" which is what he did in some previous game, though I don't recall which one it was. I think Chris might be town, though it's just another gut feeling. I'm completely not sure about Salvage, on one hand he's acted pro-town but on the other hand everything he (and Wojjan) have done have been completely wrong, except maybe for dkun.

Who the hell suggested we lynch animask over dkun anyway? Oh wait, it was akrolsmir and dkun, wasn't it...

unvote: Wojjan
I'm going for either Wojjan or dkun. However, Salvage voting dkun is scaring me a bit. I honestly don't have a clue this game. o.o//
Chris_old
pieguy why don't you tell us who you scanned and their roles since it's lylo
pieguyn
N1 - Wojjan - Bodyguard
N2 - Mashley - Vengeful Vanilla
N3 - missed it by one hour so I couldn't scan anyone
N4 - dkun - Odd-night Commuter, I was too lazy to look to see if he claimed and my role is practically useless anyway because I can't tell whether someone is mafia

And it's only LyLo if the mafia has an effing vigilante, which wouldn't surprise me at all. o.o
Chris_old
does vanilla confirm town or is that what mafia would get too, I don't think it does

mashley lynch pro/con

lynch him, mafia, another town gone, time bought
lynch him, town, possible shot at mafia, might lose immediately

I still want a wojjan lynch but just something to consider
Chris_old
you know what I'm good with taking a better risk than wojjan at this point

unvote vote mashley
pieguyn
Considering this game I wouldn't be surprised if that could also describe a mafia role.

Also, getting an extra shot is probably a good idea, except if the mafia somehow got 2 vigilantes, which wouldn't surprise me one bit. :o
Lilac

Chris wrote:

lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafia

Lilac wrote:

Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
lol what
That was a joke.

...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

That was a joke.

...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
no

I'm voting for mashley because he's vengeful, which means after his lynch he gets to pick someone to kill.

if he's mafia we bought time anyways, if he's town we get an extra shot to kill a mafia

there is no better lynch
Mara
Yeah, I'll start working on the video.

BRB:
Chris_old
mara if you want to be useful vote for mashley

and everyone else too please

I'm sure even Mashley will agree with this since there is no better alternatives
Lilac
I'll vote for Mash after Mara's video.

Unvote. Sorry, I really wanna see this video. XD
Mara
are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
Chris_old

LunaticMara wrote:

are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
I'm not sure but I don't see why not

paraphrase just to be safe I guess
Jinxy
I don't see the need to paraphrase "penis", according to Salvage
Mara
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Chris_old

JInxyjem wrote:

I don't see the need to paraphrase "penis", according to Salvage
vote for mashley

also lol'd
Jinxy
I was actually waiting for Mara's vid too but nvm, the day wouldn't end that fast with my vote. Vote:Mashley
Mara
uploadin'
bmin11
Assuming 3 mafia and 7 town with a Mashley lynch:
Mashley is town (3:6) -> Mafia kills town and Mashley kills town (3:4) -> Lylo

Assuming 4 mafia and 6 town with a Mashley lynch:
Mashley is town (4:5) -> Mafia kills town and Mashley kills mafia (3:4) -> Lylo



Ofcourse, worst case is excluded. We would have to hope Mashley would hit the mafia if we are going with the plan, or else it could be the end game on the worse case (4 maf with 3 town kills a night).

Do we want to let Mashley pick it, or do we want to discuss this before hand?
Chris_old
I think he's going to pick whoever he wants considering it's his role

I know I would

also today is lylo anyways

10 people, 1 lynch, 1 NK, 8 players 4 mafia 4 town

this is our safest bet by a long shot, two chances instead of 1
Mara


enjoy this rushed fucked up

now let me eat quickly before I will go to work
Lilac
Okay, after that...

...Can we just lynch Mara? This vid wasn't as good. It needed more funny summaries of stuff.
Mara
sorry for being unproductive this morning

it makes me depressed to go work dsadsuahdsafadkhbgfjh
Lilac
Also, to answer Chris's question about Mara encrypting Salvage.

...AOISJHdoiHDOhewqoduHAOUDSHOSAUHBDOASHODoqowuehD. Pretty much.
Chris_old
why are you stalling the mashley lynch

gogogo
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Mashley (2): Chris, JInxyjem
Wojjan (1): pieguy1372
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Salvage (1): dkun
dkun
well fuck

unvote
Vote: Mashley
Lilac
Lynch lynch lynch.

Unvote, Vote: dkun.

Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
Lilac
Watch out guys, it's a Mashley!
Mashley
Don't be fucking stupid guys, all you're doing by lynching me is placing the entire outcome of the game on who I choose to kill. Obviously there is no point lynching vengeful once someone has outed them; why would you lynch them over the person you want them to kill.
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Don't be fucking stupid guys, all you're doing by lynching me is placing the entire outcome of the game on who I choose to kill. Obviously there is no point lynching vengeful once someone has outed them; why would you lynch them over the person you want them to kill.
the logic is solid why wouldn't you want to be lynched

today is lylo and if you aren't mafia we have a second chance

be part of the team
Lilac
Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
dkun

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
k
Mashley

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
Yet you're bandwagoning with his ludicrous plan
riiiiiiiiight
really don't see a problem?
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
Yet you're bandwagoning with his ludicrous plan
riiiiiiiiight
really don't see a problem?
why are you so against it, either way the outcome is the same even if you aren't mafia

it makes no sense and it's hardly ludicrous

it's the best move possible actually
Lilac
If you think it's ludicrous, why don't you kill him once you die?

That's basically what vengeful is. You're actually using your role in a dire situation here!
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

If you think it's ludicrous, why don't you kill him once you die?

That's basically what vengeful is. You're actually using your role in a dire situation here!
that's retarded

kill someone who is actually scummy and not giving town a chance to come back

I already claimed/told everything I know, no one else has
Lilac
I have as well...?

Why are you belittling everyone? Does your e-peen grow by doing it or something?
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

I have as well...?

Why are you belittling everyone? Does your e-peen grow by doing it or something?
stop perceiving everything as personal and realize what I'm saying is the best way to go

if any of you have a better plan feel free to say something
Lilac
What?

I didn't say your plan was bad you know.
Chris_old
mashley since you seem to not understand why exactly you're the best candidate for a lynch I'll explain it better

only you know your alignment, you could be mafia or town.

if you're town, you'll want to lynch mafia obviously. fair reason for yourself, considering you know without a doubt you town.
if you are mafia, you'll want to lynch someone else to keep from revealing your alignment, though you get 2 kills tonight instead of one.

to everybody else, you could be either. if you're town, that's unfortunate but at least we know that and have two last shots instead of just one. if you're mafia, cool we hit one and you get 2 NKs anyways.

so you see regardless of your alignment it's a benefit to town if you're town/mafia considering we get 2 shots, and as mafia it's more of a benefit from 2 free kills. you just can't end the game today.

what exactly is your reasoning for thinking it's a bad idea, cause really it seems to be the only idea
Mashley
It's a rational idea, I understood that. But you know what's a more rational idea? Lynching mafia today.
Chris_old
who exactly would be your top choice for a lynch today?
Mashley
dkun
if you'd been following my posts you'd know that by now
dkun
then we truly are fucked thanks to you
dkun
good fight mafia, soz our vig is a retard
Chris_old
with the plan we have now, you could kill him if that's who you think is mafia.

not only would we have a confirmed town and a dead mafia assuming you're right, but an even lower list of people which would make picking and choosing lynches much more in towns favor

we aren't going to lynch 4 mafia in a row without increasing the odds, it just isn't gonna happen
dkun
do you know how scum that sounds chris

holy shit lilac was right
unvote
Chris_old

dkun wrote:

do you know how scum that sounds chris

holy shit lilac was right
unvote
what exactly is scummy about what I said, it's exactly what the plan has been all along

10 players - 6 town 4 mafia
-Mashley
-dkun
-NK

to

7 players, 4 town 3 mafia

2 shots at that, or 1 shot and a loss
Lilac
I'm firmly believe that both Mash and dkun are town though...

So essentially if Mash continues in wanting dkun dead. I'm out of this bandwagon and plan.
Chris_old
mashley is going to kill whoever he wants when it comes down to it, unless he agrees to put it to a vote and will actually stick with it.
dkun
scumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscum
Chris_old
if this plan is so bad come up with a better one

I'll wait

also I'm pretty sure you're just saying that because you don't want mashley to kill you
bmin11
I'm also against this plan if Mashley is going to kill dkun. I have a bad feeling that it may end up having three townies getting killed.
Chris_old
mashley wants dkun lynched, nobody wants to lynch dkun
mashley doesn't want to get lynched, people do but only if he doesn't kill dkun

mashley if we all vote on it will you kill whoever is the highest

or we can take a shot in the dark on a lynch which is pretty much the worst solution

I really can't comprehend how anything I'm saying is debatable at all
Chris_old
also if you decide to my vote is for wojjan for why I said earlier
bmin11
About Wojjan, one thing is arking me from believing her to be mafia right now. You remember when she tried to look for a replacement? I think that's quite of a hard thing to expect from a mafia during that situation. Like, mafia had no problem at all from winning it and she could have just idled if she had nothing to do or say.
Chris_old

bmin11 wrote:

About Wojjan, one thing is arking me from believing her to be mafia right now. You remember when she tried to look for a replacement? I think that's quite of a hard thing to expect from a mafia during that situation. Like, mafia had no problem at all from winning it and she could have just idled if she had nothing to do or say.
I thought about it more like she's been controlling every lynch, lied about foulcoon's importance then asked for a replacement (that she never got) after foulcoon flipped town too to keep from getting voted.

maybe if wojjan actually got replaced I be inclined think the way you did, but they didn't
Lilac
The fact is Two didn't want to replace Wojjan.

My vote is on Salvage. See earlier paragraphs.
Lilac
Or couldn't replace, more rather.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

The fact is Two didn't want to replace Wojjan.
where did they say that and what does that have to do with anything
Lilac
I'm willing to give Wojjan benefit of the doubt. You were talking about replacements.

Partly because I still think you're scum trying to mislead and partly because I personally believe that Wojjan is town due to discussion of roles.
bmin11
Starting to think of it.... what's the point of having a Body Guard Mafia...? Oh wait, Vengefuls nvm
Lilac
What? How does that work?
Chris_old
lilac are you trolling me or something

there is nothing I am doing that is misleading, I feel like if you really thought that you would of unvoted from the mashley lynch to begin with

it seems more likely you're trying to keep a town lynch + make sure he kills town as well

what exactly is your role because I don't think you've claimed yet

also 10 hours ago

Lilac wrote:

Give me in one sentence why dkun is more scummy that Wojjan. Also, keep your love of each other to yourself and how Wojjan is better than dkun.
dkun's against the lynch now that he's the one mashley wants to kill, and lilac is against dkun dying and is trying to paint me for saying wojjan even though less than 12 hours ago they were attacking them non stop

if you want to talk about misleading with a perfectly good plan perhaps you should work on yourself first
Chris_old
also unvote, vote Lilac

looks like you wont have to die after all mashley
Lilac
Perfectly good plan?

You had a trainwreck of a person wanting to take down another townie with him. You were always mafia in my opinion, don't wriggle your way out of that one. I don't see anything of myself that needs working on.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

Perfectly good plan?

You had a trainwreck of a person wanting to take down another townie with him. You were always mafia in my opinion, don't wriggle your way out of that one. I don't see anything of myself that needs working on.
what does trainwreck of a person even mean, and how exactly do you know dkun is town?

that plan was perfect except for the fact mafia would obviously go against it considering it was smart and logical, and actually gave town a chance to win

nice to know you ignore basically my entire post though and reply with some really vague bullshit

you got caught in your own posts, might as well give up now
Lilac
Ouch, voting for me.

Why don't you work on who you want to accuse first as well? Didn't you want to vote for Wojjan?
Chris_old
notice that you still haven't unvoted

either because you're scared it'll make you look bad after I called you out, or you know my plan is good for town and not going along with it would make you look even worse

you've pretty much been a hypocrite this entire game, and it makes zero sense to call someone mafia then say I agree with your plan

even mashley, the one you called a trainwreck spotted that
Lilac
You aren't even worth my time. I had something already planned if you went for crap like this.



Last time. pieguy/JInxyjem, Salvage, Chris. Vote: Chris. If you excuse me, I'll be doing my homework for school tomorrow.
Lilac
Your plan was terrible.

You should feel ashamed. Unless you're Mafia in which case you should feel angry.
Chris_old
1.) I didn't advocate a lurker lynch, Dusty didn't lurk. I advocated lynching anyone who roleclaimed after they were up for a lynch and had a role that would be useful to mafia. Mafia don't have to read the thread to play though, makes sense why you've been inactive till the last day though.

2.) step your game up, this doesn't even make sense

3.) it made no difference to anything

4.) I said vote on it multiple times

that seemed like a pretty desperate attempt and you screenshotting a post doesn't make your points any more valid

ignore my points and continue to post garbage Lilac, it's all you've done so far
Lilac
You've ignored my points as well...

See where this is going?
Lilac
You decide people.

It's either me or him. I'm claiming bulletproof.


Later. School starts tomorrow for most private Australian schools.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

You've ignored my points as well...

See where this is going?
I addressed everything you said, which was hardly anything by the way.

way to admit it you ignored my points though

if you weren't so inactive and posted more than one sentence at a time you would of been lynched d2


Lilac: look at me I'm town because I posted in big bold letters and gave you an ultimatum
Lilac
The fact is I wasn't...are you mad now because someone's against you now? Or how your plans to win with Mashley failed?

Unvote, Vote: Chris If Two has some crud with needing to unvote before voting someone.
Lilac
I wasn't lynched D2*

Look, I'm Chris. I edit my posts. Hurr durr.
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Wojjan (1): pieguy1372
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Lilac (1): Chris
Mashley (1): JInxyjem
Chris (1): Lilac
Lilac
Sorry to be a dick but final nail in the coffin.

I believe Chris used the opportunity of Mashley being a Vengeful to lynch him while he knowingly agrees with Mashley for a dkun lynch which would essentially be two town gone plus NK. When he realised that no-one else wanted dkun lynched, the plan turned sour and then he went for me to start accusing.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

Sorry to be a dick but final nail in the coffin.

I believe Chris used the opportunity of Mashley being a Vengeful to lynch him while he knowingly agrees with Mashley for a dkun lynch which would essentially be two town gone plus NK. When he realised that no-one else wanted dkun lynched, the plan turned sour and then he went for me to start accusing.
that was a terrible attempt at turning around the fact you wouldn't unvote mashley even after calling me scum multiple times

I wouldn't let someone decide who I killed if it was my vengeful, and you're still assuming mashley is even town

of course you know he is but that's beside the point

funnily enough you seem to ignore the fact that mafia would have influence over who he picked which is why I assume you were so for the voting part

I would hardly say "no-one else" wanted dkun lynch, considering the person who you know, makes the decision did

even if he agreed to it that still doesn't make it a for sure he wont kill him regardless

and I said multiple times to vote on it, so your entire argument is crap as usual

I attacked you for being terrible and calling me scum and then agreeing with everything I said

your opinion changes depending on what a majority think which means you = mafia

also your ego is way too big and way too undeserved

and one last thing, why did you keep your vote on mashley that entire time if you assumed I was mafia? and this time don't ignore it
Lilac
To be honest, I was not confident. In fact, I was hesitant.

That's the reason why.
Salvage
if we're not doing that mashley lynch then im not moving mine from dkun for now, i don't know where you guys see town on him but i for sure don't



i dont give a fuck if he's new
dkun
not even open to reason anymore salvage? wow, why don't you read the last 4 pages while you're at it
you're just as bad as a novice, if not worse
i've played mafia longer than you've been on osu!

but as the day winds out, i'm sure this doesn't matter, as no one else wants to listen to common sense
imho lilac is perfectly sound, so is chris, but I still get a scummy feeling behind the mashley lynch and his approach at it
vote: Chris
Salvage
sadly thats not true and you trying to understimate me confirms it



i don't need to play for years to be better than you, the mashley lynch is the best choice for town right now, if it's not going to be done then we're lynching you cause u can't be scummier, seems like those years of mafia experience didn't serve you as to how to play as mafia, and i won't let that go sry :(
Chris_old

dkun wrote:

but as the day winds out, i'm sure this doesn't matter, as no one else wants to listen to common sense
oh god the irony
Wojjan
why the fuck would anyone take a printscreen of a post in editor to show they suspected the other first
why why why

fuck this game
Wojjan
vote: lilac or whatever?
sure let's
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

vote: lilac or whatever?
sure let's
unvote because two will be like doesn't count

same reason my vote on sync didn't go through

also thank god someone isn't retarded
Salvage
if dkun is mafia then Lilac is mafia



i'd rather lynch dkun than lilac cause im not sure about lilac and i am about dkun.



i'd go for a safe lynch but if that's no gonna happen we can lynch lilac idk




what do you think mashley/jinx/pieguy/mara
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