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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory

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dkun
okay mashley
shit bricks when you find out i'm town

then see who you point fingers at
Lilac
You'll agree with anyone at this point in time, Salvage.

Unvote, Vote: Salvage.









Unvote.
dkun
ps if you want to be blatantly closed minded as seeing that wojjan CLEARLY led the lynch on foulcoon like that, then by all means, please go ahead and vote me

hell, i'll even start for you

unvote
vote: dkun
Lilac
Dude, dkun. Cut that shit out.
dkun
not when mashley is obviously scum, nty

salvage is just bandwagon approach as well when it comes to things like this
Lilac
Look, I'm tired of this game and I'm sure a lot of other people are since we've got nothing but the fact is that this fucking won't help.

So I suggest you get your shit together and start doing something productive.
dkun
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unvote
vote: salvage
Jinxy

Lilac wrote:

  1. After responding to prod, essentially did nothing else but accuse Sync...and personally...gave shoddy reason to boot to make it seem like it was legit.
  2. Essentially just posts enough to make people he's town, going for already starting bandwagons.
1. I'm not sure how it was shoddy, but that was what I felt about Sync. He was trying to lynch pieguy with his flawed reasoning, it sounded like he was scum and trying to lynch a town to me, so I voted him.
2. Well, my timezone often puts me in a way that I end up reading everyone's accusations, and I agree on the votes and their reasoning, and and vote for who I feel is scum after that.
bmin11

Wojjan wrote:

bmin i am flattered that you consider me on the same level as two but your reasoning to vote me is only wifom and me being a strong town player looking for scum. Are you sure you don't think there are scummier players out there than me right now
I agree it's still a WIFOM, but I don't think mafia would benefit from having you alive for this long. N1 to N3 are justifiable, since we think Mafia are looking for a kill on certain group of people (related to gifts as Chris suggested), but killing of a role cop (LS) instead of you guys are a hard idea for me to take.
Salvage
dkun so fucking mafia


ffs
bmin11
And tell me, who are you protecting right now? (I know I should have asked this to foulcoon as well, but whatever orz)
Mashley
For fuck's sake dkun you never learn do you.
You can't just tell us you're town, you have to show us by actually contributing to the game.
That's irrelevant because you're scum anyway of course.
At this stage anyone who is trying to steer the voting away from dkun is likely scum trying to close the final win for them.
Salvage
unvote, vote dkun



yes im not changing my vote he's way scummier than jinxy and i wont risk a misslynch on lylo
dkun
I have to show you? What do I have to show to you since you're obviously scum yourself and Salvage backing your scummy actions up by sucking all your posts in and fortifying it?

Oh wait, that's irrelevant because you're just saying that I'm scum!
At this stage, anyone who is trying to steer the vote at me is obviously scum.
dkun
And you know what, if you do manage to hammer me in, then let fingers point at you when I'm town.
I'm pretty sure that's all I have to say to you two.
bmin11
*sigh* we have went through quite a lot of those reactions before. Lilac is somewhat of a recent example on Restaurant Mafia. This is my only reason for not voting dkun as I'm afraid to take that risk on a lylo. I would have been a lot more comfortable if it was like D2 or D3.
Salvage
unless there are 3 mafia then there is no tommorrow, thats why we cant misslynch anyone today cause 3 mafia on a 18 players game its highly unlikely
Lilac
Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.

Ain't that right, Salvage?
bmin11

dkun wrote:

i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?
Salvage
edited a grammar thing btw
dkun

bmin11 wrote:

dkun wrote:

i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?
SONGFIA, I claimed
Salvage

Lilac wrote:

Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.

Ain't that right, Salvage?


what?
Salvage

Lilac wrote:

Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.

Ain't that right, Salvage?


what?
dkun

bmin11 wrote:

dkun wrote:

i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?
i've also claimed for this game as well, if you haven't noticed
bmin11
Sorry, I'm not too up to date with this game. Can you tell us your role again please?
Jinxy
So which game exactly is dkun going on about

Is it songfia, if so can I ignore it
Salvage
if its songfia oh god lmaooo
dkun
I have claimed Odd-Night Commuter against an accusation from an earlier day from Mashley/Salvage (see the trail in this?)
I have immunity against any other skill (including NK) on odd days in the game.

@jinxy, yes, it is. please ignore.
Salvage
yep totally forgot that claim



specially cause roles don't say anything and we're on the same situation.





but whatever agggg
Lilac
Goddamnit. Screw this.

Vote: Salvage.
Salvage
wow, ok




are you just saying you dont care about the game anymore or just throwing a bad vote
dkun
I don't think that's a "bad" vote.
Salvage
probabbly cause ur mafia and you can win if that vote goes on? ^__^
Lilac
Or you, Salvage, could be mafia and we hit someone right for once!

You're essentially the one pulling the strings and it's worked every time until now. Your votes are also based on others, essentially you won't unless someone else gives a reason and guess what? You actually half-heartly support the reason cause you don't care who dies! Your ISO screams it on almost every page. Also, don't lump me in the same boat about not caring for this game. You might not care because it's simple for you as you only need a few more votes to win.

Essentially. JInxyjem/pieguy, Salvage and Chris are the remaining mafia members. I am somewhat convinced that dkun is scummy/unhelpful town and Mashley is overreacting. The fact is, you're mafia for being half-assed. Props for confirming Wojjan's town, it confirms you're scum.

Agreeing with Wojjan for the Dusty (D1) lynch since "Oops, I don't understand the reasoning but it's Wojjan.".
Changed from dkun to animask (D2) lynch only with using akro's argument.
Voted for foulcoon (D3) after Wojjan's idea of lynching a 'powerful' role.

Cool.
Salvage
do you really think you can win the game lynching me? it'd be hillarous but it won't happen



i would have picked another easy lynch target lilac but wow :(
Lilac
But wow...I'm actually trying...?

I'm not at all convinced that you're town. I don't think anyone else should be...but if they do I want to know why.
Salvage
yes im trying too, but you're going the wrong way




town has been awfully bad the entire game and thats why we're in the situation we're, i voted and lynched the people more scummy of everyone, you can go and check everyone that got lynched and the reasoning of my votes are them being extremely anti town


i don't expect you of being convinced that i'm town but you're risking way too much here (in case you're town ofc) and i won't allow this to happen cause it involves me loosing as well (or just me and u winning as mafia).


so please rethink things cause it's just not getting you anywhere on both alignments
Lilac
Okay, fine.

The next person I am more than likely convinced on being mafia is Chris. I can come up with another 3 paragraphs as to why but I want to see your opinion first, Salvage.
Salvage
about chris i think everything he said on the game is pretty logical but the way he said them is odd, so it could be he's mafia from my point of view



he said obvious things several times and it seems like he tried too hard to be town sometimes, i don't have any more than that tho so that's why i don't consider a chris lynch, there are more people i feel like 'safest' lynchs over him.
Salvage
also before you point it out, the thing of him 'surviving' just like wojjan and me its pure wifom to provoke a lynch on any of us, i'm not defending him in that case, im saying that argument its invalid.
Chris_old
lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafia

Lilac wrote:

Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
lol what
Chris_old
1. Lilac <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and suddenly posts paragraphs
3. JInxyjem <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and still contributes nothing
4. Salvage <-- contributes most of the game, name gets brought up and continues to post
5. bmin11 <-- posts a lot but doesn't really contribute anything
6. dkun <-- very emotional player, could go either way
7. pieguy1372 <-- mafia after akrolsmir died, role cop scanned him imo
8. Mashley <-- bad d1 but managed to survive the entire game, hasn't really contributed
9. Wojjan <-- lead most of the lynches, contributed a lot but always wrong
10. LunaticMara <-- very inactive/makes one video/bored of the game

I have yet to see anyone actually say anything they know from their roles, which sort of makes me realize why town has sucked the entire game

I'll start it off: roleclaim watcher

dkun is definitely odd night commuter because I watched him n3 and my "ability didn't work"

salvage is the person who picked my role because he said he picked watcher

I picked animasks role
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Salvage (2): dkun, Lilac
Wojjan (1): Chris
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Chris_old
why all of you aren't voting wojjan is beyond me

they are hardly confirmed town, in fact they are probably the most anti town person here

even dkun with his 2 votes is less mafia
pieguyn
@_@ what in the

I don't know what to even think anymore, so I'm just going to go back to my first gut instinct. vote: Wojjan

Aside from that, I think it might be JInxyjem. I agree that he just seems to be posting "enough to avoid suspicion" which is what he did in some previous game, though I don't recall which one it was. I think Chris might be town, though it's just another gut feeling. I'm completely not sure about Salvage, on one hand he's acted pro-town but on the other hand everything he (and Wojjan) have done have been completely wrong, except maybe for dkun.

Who the hell suggested we lynch animask over dkun anyway? Oh wait, it was akrolsmir and dkun, wasn't it...

unvote: Wojjan
I'm going for either Wojjan or dkun. However, Salvage voting dkun is scaring me a bit. I honestly don't have a clue this game. o.o//
Chris_old
pieguy why don't you tell us who you scanned and their roles since it's lylo
pieguyn
N1 - Wojjan - Bodyguard
N2 - Mashley - Vengeful Vanilla
N3 - missed it by one hour so I couldn't scan anyone
N4 - dkun - Odd-night Commuter, I was too lazy to look to see if he claimed and my role is practically useless anyway because I can't tell whether someone is mafia

And it's only LyLo if the mafia has an effing vigilante, which wouldn't surprise me at all. o.o
Chris_old
does vanilla confirm town or is that what mafia would get too, I don't think it does

mashley lynch pro/con

lynch him, mafia, another town gone, time bought
lynch him, town, possible shot at mafia, might lose immediately

I still want a wojjan lynch but just something to consider
Chris_old
you know what I'm good with taking a better risk than wojjan at this point

unvote vote mashley
pieguyn
Considering this game I wouldn't be surprised if that could also describe a mafia role.

Also, getting an extra shot is probably a good idea, except if the mafia somehow got 2 vigilantes, which wouldn't surprise me one bit. :o
Lilac

Chris wrote:

lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafia

Lilac wrote:

Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
lol what
That was a joke.

...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

That was a joke.

...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
no

I'm voting for mashley because he's vengeful, which means after his lynch he gets to pick someone to kill.

if he's mafia we bought time anyways, if he's town we get an extra shot to kill a mafia

there is no better lynch
Mara
Yeah, I'll start working on the video.

BRB:
Chris_old
mara if you want to be useful vote for mashley

and everyone else too please

I'm sure even Mashley will agree with this since there is no better alternatives
Lilac
I'll vote for Mash after Mara's video.

Unvote. Sorry, I really wanna see this video. XD
Mara
are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
Chris_old

LunaticMara wrote:

are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
I'm not sure but I don't see why not

paraphrase just to be safe I guess
Jinxy
I don't see the need to paraphrase "penis", according to Salvage
Mara
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Chris_old

JInxyjem wrote:

I don't see the need to paraphrase "penis", according to Salvage
vote for mashley

also lol'd
Jinxy
I was actually waiting for Mara's vid too but nvm, the day wouldn't end that fast with my vote. Vote:Mashley
Mara
uploadin'
bmin11
Assuming 3 mafia and 7 town with a Mashley lynch:
Mashley is town (3:6) -> Mafia kills town and Mashley kills town (3:4) -> Lylo

Assuming 4 mafia and 6 town with a Mashley lynch:
Mashley is town (4:5) -> Mafia kills town and Mashley kills mafia (3:4) -> Lylo



Ofcourse, worst case is excluded. We would have to hope Mashley would hit the mafia if we are going with the plan, or else it could be the end game on the worse case (4 maf with 3 town kills a night).

Do we want to let Mashley pick it, or do we want to discuss this before hand?
Chris_old
I think he's going to pick whoever he wants considering it's his role

I know I would

also today is lylo anyways

10 people, 1 lynch, 1 NK, 8 players 4 mafia 4 town

this is our safest bet by a long shot, two chances instead of 1
Mara


enjoy this rushed fucked up

now let me eat quickly before I will go to work
Lilac
Okay, after that...

...Can we just lynch Mara? This vid wasn't as good. It needed more funny summaries of stuff.
Mara
sorry for being unproductive this morning

it makes me depressed to go work dsadsuahdsafadkhbgfjh
Lilac
Also, to answer Chris's question about Mara encrypting Salvage.

...AOISJHdoiHDOhewqoduHAOUDSHOSAUHBDOASHODoqowuehD. Pretty much.
Chris_old
why are you stalling the mashley lynch

gogogo
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Mashley (2): Chris, JInxyjem
Wojjan (1): pieguy1372
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Salvage (1): dkun
dkun
well fuck

unvote
Vote: Mashley
Lilac
Lynch lynch lynch.

Unvote, Vote: dkun.

Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
Lilac
Watch out guys, it's a Mashley!
Mashley
Don't be fucking stupid guys, all you're doing by lynching me is placing the entire outcome of the game on who I choose to kill. Obviously there is no point lynching vengeful once someone has outed them; why would you lynch them over the person you want them to kill.
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Don't be fucking stupid guys, all you're doing by lynching me is placing the entire outcome of the game on who I choose to kill. Obviously there is no point lynching vengeful once someone has outed them; why would you lynch them over the person you want them to kill.
the logic is solid why wouldn't you want to be lynched

today is lylo and if you aren't mafia we have a second chance

be part of the team
Lilac
Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
dkun

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
k
Mashley

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
Yet you're bandwagoning with his ludicrous plan
riiiiiiiiight
really don't see a problem?
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Just to be clear here... I seriously think Chris, Salvage and pieguy are Mafia.
Yet you're bandwagoning with his ludicrous plan
riiiiiiiiight
really don't see a problem?
why are you so against it, either way the outcome is the same even if you aren't mafia

it makes no sense and it's hardly ludicrous

it's the best move possible actually
Lilac
If you think it's ludicrous, why don't you kill him once you die?

That's basically what vengeful is. You're actually using your role in a dire situation here!
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

If you think it's ludicrous, why don't you kill him once you die?

That's basically what vengeful is. You're actually using your role in a dire situation here!
that's retarded

kill someone who is actually scummy and not giving town a chance to come back

I already claimed/told everything I know, no one else has
Lilac
I have as well...?

Why are you belittling everyone? Does your e-peen grow by doing it or something?
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

I have as well...?

Why are you belittling everyone? Does your e-peen grow by doing it or something?
stop perceiving everything as personal and realize what I'm saying is the best way to go

if any of you have a better plan feel free to say something
Lilac
What?

I didn't say your plan was bad you know.
Chris_old
mashley since you seem to not understand why exactly you're the best candidate for a lynch I'll explain it better

only you know your alignment, you could be mafia or town.

if you're town, you'll want to lynch mafia obviously. fair reason for yourself, considering you know without a doubt you town.
if you are mafia, you'll want to lynch someone else to keep from revealing your alignment, though you get 2 kills tonight instead of one.

to everybody else, you could be either. if you're town, that's unfortunate but at least we know that and have two last shots instead of just one. if you're mafia, cool we hit one and you get 2 NKs anyways.

so you see regardless of your alignment it's a benefit to town if you're town/mafia considering we get 2 shots, and as mafia it's more of a benefit from 2 free kills. you just can't end the game today.

what exactly is your reasoning for thinking it's a bad idea, cause really it seems to be the only idea
Mashley
It's a rational idea, I understood that. But you know what's a more rational idea? Lynching mafia today.
Chris_old
who exactly would be your top choice for a lynch today?
Mashley
dkun
if you'd been following my posts you'd know that by now
dkun
then we truly are fucked thanks to you
dkun
good fight mafia, soz our vig is a retard
Chris_old
with the plan we have now, you could kill him if that's who you think is mafia.

not only would we have a confirmed town and a dead mafia assuming you're right, but an even lower list of people which would make picking and choosing lynches much more in towns favor

we aren't going to lynch 4 mafia in a row without increasing the odds, it just isn't gonna happen
dkun
do you know how scum that sounds chris

holy shit lilac was right
unvote
Chris_old

dkun wrote:

do you know how scum that sounds chris

holy shit lilac was right
unvote
what exactly is scummy about what I said, it's exactly what the plan has been all along

10 players - 6 town 4 mafia
-Mashley
-dkun
-NK

to

7 players, 4 town 3 mafia

2 shots at that, or 1 shot and a loss
Lilac
I'm firmly believe that both Mash and dkun are town though...

So essentially if Mash continues in wanting dkun dead. I'm out of this bandwagon and plan.
Chris_old
mashley is going to kill whoever he wants when it comes down to it, unless he agrees to put it to a vote and will actually stick with it.
dkun
scumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscum
Chris_old
if this plan is so bad come up with a better one

I'll wait

also I'm pretty sure you're just saying that because you don't want mashley to kill you
bmin11
I'm also against this plan if Mashley is going to kill dkun. I have a bad feeling that it may end up having three townies getting killed.
Chris_old
mashley wants dkun lynched, nobody wants to lynch dkun
mashley doesn't want to get lynched, people do but only if he doesn't kill dkun

mashley if we all vote on it will you kill whoever is the highest

or we can take a shot in the dark on a lynch which is pretty much the worst solution

I really can't comprehend how anything I'm saying is debatable at all
Chris_old
also if you decide to my vote is for wojjan for why I said earlier
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