It's not my role. It's what I chose for you that's making me paranoid. What are the chances of a 4th Town Bodyguard?Wojjan wrote:
hoooooooooooooooooo mad little Lilac has got it out for me?Lilac wrote:
I have an paranoid feeling.
...And it's got to do with Wojjan...
please make sense. what does your role have to do with me?
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there are no chances, alignments are chosen at random
zzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzz
I know they are.
Hence my question still stands.
Hence my question still stands.
how exactly is that you know they are?
really there is no reason for you to not be clear in the situation we are.
if you 'know' they are, in any odd way, then why don't you know what are they anyways?
really there is no reason for you to not be clear in the situation we are.
if you 'know' they are, in any odd way, then why don't you know what are they anyways?
oh you chose my role
aight
yeah I'm a town bodyguard why do you think I pushed for foulcoon
aight
yeah I'm a town bodyguard why do you think I pushed for foulcoon
partially he was being bad and scummy, partially he was a bodyguard too, and claiming his role was useless
How do you expect me to feel secure with you around here then if you know I think you have a chance of being Mafia?
S/he has just as much chance as anyone else, Lilac
Humour me this then.
Would you give Vig to Mafia?
Would you give Vig to Mafia?
It's called a strongman?
No it's not.
It's called a vigilante.
It's called a vigilante.
Well the role is typically called a strongman when it is scum sided. But functionally they are the same.
Vig can be stopped by bulletproof, strongman can't.
.-.
.-.
The probability rule for vigs, along with their only bullet is clearly there so mafia would not have an insane advantage with one
I guess that's true.
The fact is no-one else has made a shot yet. Didn't we say there was another one?
The fact is no-one else has made a shot yet. Didn't we say there was another one?
no we didn't, dusty said that he had in his role that vigilantes could be weakened if there are more in the game and he assumed there was just by that sentence, if there is a vig he should claim and we can decide who to shoot, but i don't think there is
i mean if there is he is pretty dumb sry
i mean if there is he is pretty dumb sry
Yeah it's pretty reasonable to assume any vigs either missed a while ago or simply don't exist.
Didn't we deal with this at like day 2? Seriously stop sidetracking, can we please just lynch dkun now.
Didn't we deal with this at like day 2? Seriously stop sidetracking, can we please just lynch dkun now.
I want a JInx lynch though.
cause in the situation we are now (possible lylo) i dont want to lynch a "maybe mafia" over than a "almost for sure mafia"
If by "almost for sure mafia" you mean "argued against Wojjan" then yes.
I want a "maybe mafia" lynch.
I want a "maybe mafia" lynch.
argued against wojjan?
do you even read the thread lilac
do you even read the thread lilac
Yes, are you stupid?
Give me in one sentence why dkun is more scummy that Wojjan. Also, keep your love of each other to yourself and how Wojjan is better than dkun.
Give me in one sentence why dkun is more scummy that Wojjan. Also, keep your love of each other to yourself and how Wojjan is better than dkun.
dkun is being scummy the entire game, i thought you meant he was scummy for something he said to wojjan that's what i asked don't flame me 
also i do think dkun is more scummy than wojjan cause wojjan has being totally logical the entire game and imho the most pro town player, while dkun just raged at everyone who said his name practically telling everyone retards and blabla
also i do think dkun is more scummy than wojjan cause wojjan has being totally logical the entire game and imho the most pro town player, while dkun just raged at everyone who said his name practically telling everyone retards and blabla
It's a saying. Okay, let me summarise my reason for JInx.
- After responding to prod, essentially did nothing else but accuse Sync...and personally...gave shoddy reason to boot to make it seem like it was legit.
Spelled foulcoon's name wrong in Vote Counting.- Essentially just posts enough to make people he's town, going for already starting bandwagons.
fair enough, i dont feel anything out of him but whatever i dont know shit anymore too
vote: jinxy
vote: jinxy
If I recall correctly I think it was vgm maf where jinxy admitted to doing that exact thing as scumLilac wrote:
[*]Essentially just posts enough to make people he's town, going for already starting bandwagons.[/list]
Goddamnit, I knew I should have given you deputy, Wojjan.
FML.
FML.
I'm going to tell my fucked up before anyone else does.
I realized on D4 that I actually gave LS's gift, not akro (thanks to the confusion from replacements replacements replacements) and that probably made LS to die last night orz and this means my idea of our choices not being absolute is bogus.
Thanks to everyone who did not point out my fucked up if you have noticed. I hoped on a little chance that mafia wouldn't notice my fucked up and not target LS...
I'm going for Wojjan lynch. I'm betting that Wojjan is playing good mafia and leading every single lynches (well, except for animask lynch, which happened within an hour or two before the end of the night). The fact that Wojjan did not die yet is hard for me to understand as well. It's the same level as Two surviving until D3, which is ridiculous.
Salvage for the same reason above. Ridiculous how you survived until now. Just less then Wojjan since mafia may still take you as a less of a threat, if you are actually pro town.
I'm also good for Mara's lynch for not waiting for Wojjan's confirmation on foulcoon's lynch, disregarding how helpful it could have been or not. Just denying the possibility is a total waste on Town's side.
Again, apologies for my fucked ups.
Vote: Wojjan
I realized on D4 that I actually gave LS's gift, not akro (thanks to the confusion from replacements replacements replacements) and that probably made LS to die last night orz and this means my idea of our choices not being absolute is bogus.
Thanks to everyone who did not point out my fucked up if you have noticed. I hoped on a little chance that mafia wouldn't notice my fucked up and not target LS...
I'm going for Wojjan lynch. I'm betting that Wojjan is playing good mafia and leading every single lynches (well, except for animask lynch, which happened within an hour or two before the end of the night). The fact that Wojjan did not die yet is hard for me to understand as well. It's the same level as Two surviving until D3, which is ridiculous.
Salvage for the same reason above. Ridiculous how you survived until now. Just less then Wojjan since mafia may still take you as a less of a threat, if you are actually pro town.
I'm also good for Mara's lynch for not waiting for Wojjan's confirmation on foulcoon's lynch, disregarding how helpful it could have been or not. Just denying the possibility is a total waste on Town's side.
Again, apologies for my fucked ups.
Vote: Wojjan
I gave it because I thought it would make you think about who was worth protecting!
But essentially that was stupid in the end as well.
But essentially that was stupid in the end as well.
Unvote more posts to read great
Aww, bmin so cute for screwing up~
Awwwww~ <3
Awwwww~ <3
._. anyway, I'm convinced for JInx, but I'm still kind of scared of people who have led the past few lynches. It's almost as it seems Mafia led all the lynches so it won't hit their members.
I do agree. Wojjan and Salvage surviving is actually freaking me out. Not to mention that Chris is somewhat alive as well.
I'll get back to you guys afer I'm on my desk k?
bmin i am flattered that you consider me on the same level as two but your reasoning to vote me is only wifom and me being a strong town player looking for scum. Are you sure you don't think there are scummier players out there than me right now
Why would you be flattered?
I'd be insulted to be honest.
I'd be insulted to be honest.
Yes JInxy is scummy and indeed he is on my list of people who I think are scum but why the fuck would you lynch him over someone as blatantly scum as dkun?
okay mashley
shit bricks when you find out i'm town
then see who you point fingers at
shit bricks when you find out i'm town
then see who you point fingers at
You'll agree with anyone at this point in time, Salvage.
Unvote, Vote: Salvage.
Unvote.
Unvote, Vote: Salvage.
Unvote.
ps if you want to be blatantly closed minded as seeing that wojjan CLEARLY led the lynch on foulcoon like that, then by all means, please go ahead and vote me
hell, i'll even start for you
unvote
vote: dkun
hell, i'll even start for you
unvote
vote: dkun
Dude, dkun. Cut that shit out.
not when mashley is obviously scum, nty
salvage is just bandwagon approach as well when it comes to things like this
salvage is just bandwagon approach as well when it comes to things like this
Look, I'm tired of this game and I'm sure a lot of other people are since we've got nothing but the fact is that this fucking won't help.
So I suggest you get your shit together and start doing something productive.
So I suggest you get your shit together and start doing something productive.
k
unvote
vote: salvage
unvote
vote: salvage
1. I'm not sure how it was shoddy, but that was what I felt about Sync. He was trying to lynch pieguy with his flawed reasoning, it sounded like he was scum and trying to lynch a town to me, so I voted him.Lilac wrote:
- After responding to prod, essentially did nothing else but accuse Sync...and personally...gave shoddy reason to boot to make it seem like it was legit.
- Essentially just posts enough to make people he's town, going for already starting bandwagons.
2. Well, my timezone often puts me in a way that I end up reading everyone's accusations, and I agree on the votes and their reasoning, and and vote for who I feel is scum after that.
I agree it's still a WIFOM, but I don't think mafia would benefit from having you alive for this long. N1 to N3 are justifiable, since we think Mafia are looking for a kill on certain group of people (related to gifts as Chris suggested), but killing of a role cop (LS) instead of you guys are a hard idea for me to take.Wojjan wrote:
bmin i am flattered that you consider me on the same level as two but your reasoning to vote me is only wifom and me being a strong town player looking for scum. Are you sure you don't think there are scummier players out there than me right now
And tell me, who are you protecting right now? (I know I should have asked this to foulcoon as well, but whatever orz)
For fuck's sake dkun you never learn do you.
You can't just tell us you're town, you have to show us by actually contributing to the game.
That's irrelevant because you're scum anyway of course.
At this stage anyone who is trying to steer the voting away from dkun is likely scum trying to close the final win for them.
You can't just tell us you're town, you have to show us by actually contributing to the game.
That's irrelevant because you're scum anyway of course.
At this stage anyone who is trying to steer the voting away from dkun is likely scum trying to close the final win for them.
unvote, vote dkun
yes im not changing my vote he's way scummier than jinxy and i wont risk a misslynch on lylo
yes im not changing my vote he's way scummier than jinxy and i wont risk a misslynch on lylo
I have to show you? What do I have to show to you since you're obviously scum yourself and Salvage backing your scummy actions up by sucking all your posts in and fortifying it?
Oh wait, that's irrelevant because you're just saying that I'm scum!
At this stage, anyone who is trying to steer the vote at me is obviously scum.
Oh wait, that's irrelevant because you're just saying that I'm scum!
At this stage, anyone who is trying to steer the vote at me is obviously scum.
And you know what, if you do manage to hammer me in, then let fingers point at you when I'm town.
I'm pretty sure that's all I have to say to you two.
I'm pretty sure that's all I have to say to you two.
*sigh* we have went through quite a lot of those reactions before. Lilac is somewhat of a recent example on Restaurant Mafia. This is my only reason for not voting dkun as I'm afraid to take that risk on a lylo. I would have been a lot more comfortable if it was like D2 or D3.
unless there are 3 mafia then there is no tommorrow, thats why we cant misslynch anyone today cause 3 mafia on a 18 players game its highly unlikely
Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.
Ain't that right, Salvage?
Ain't that right, Salvage?
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?dkun wrote:
i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
SONGFIA, I claimedbmin11 wrote:
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?dkun wrote:
i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
Lilac wrote:
Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.
Ain't that right, Salvage?
what?
Lilac wrote:
Only that example was forced because I HAD to be mafia.
Ain't that right, Salvage?
what?
i've also claimed for this game as well, if you haven't noticedbmin11 wrote:
You said this was for the other game. Can you please explain?dkun wrote:
i'll be more then happy to confirm chris n2/d3
Sorry, I'm not too up to date with this game. Can you tell us your role again please?
So which game exactly is dkun going on about
Is it songfia, if so can I ignore it
Is it songfia, if so can I ignore it
I have claimed Odd-Night Commuter against an accusation from an earlier day from Mashley/Salvage (see the trail in this?)
I have immunity against any other skill (including NK) on odd days in the game.
@jinxy, yes, it is. please ignore.
I have immunity against any other skill (including NK) on odd days in the game.
@jinxy, yes, it is. please ignore.
yep totally forgot that claim
specially cause roles don't say anything and we're on the same situation.
but whatever agggg
specially cause roles don't say anything and we're on the same situation.
but whatever agggg
Goddamnit. Screw this.
Vote: Salvage.
Vote: Salvage.
wow, ok
are you just saying you dont care about the game anymore or just throwing a bad vote
are you just saying you dont care about the game anymore or just throwing a bad vote
I don't think that's a "bad" vote.
probabbly cause ur mafia and you can win if that vote goes on? ^__^
Or you, Salvage, could be mafia and we hit someone right for once!
You're essentially the one pulling the strings and it's worked every time until now. Your votes are also based on others, essentially you won't unless someone else gives a reason and guess what? You actually half-heartly support the reason cause you don't care who dies! Your ISO screams it on almost every page. Also, don't lump me in the same boat about not caring for this game. You might not care because it's simple for you as you only need a few more votes to win.
Essentially. JInxyjem/pieguy, Salvage and Chris are the remaining mafia members. I am somewhat convinced that dkun is scummy/unhelpful town and Mashley is overreacting. The fact is, you're mafia for being half-assed. Props for confirming Wojjan's town, it confirms you're scum.
Agreeing with Wojjan for the Dusty (D1) lynch since "Oops, I don't understand the reasoning but it's Wojjan.".
Changed from dkun to animask (D2) lynch only with using akro's argument.
Voted for foulcoon (D3) after Wojjan's idea of lynching a 'powerful' role.
Cool.
You're essentially the one pulling the strings and it's worked every time until now. Your votes are also based on others, essentially you won't unless someone else gives a reason and guess what? You actually half-heartly support the reason cause you don't care who dies! Your ISO screams it on almost every page. Also, don't lump me in the same boat about not caring for this game. You might not care because it's simple for you as you only need a few more votes to win.
Essentially. JInxyjem/pieguy, Salvage and Chris are the remaining mafia members. I am somewhat convinced that dkun is scummy/unhelpful town and Mashley is overreacting. The fact is, you're mafia for being half-assed. Props for confirming Wojjan's town, it confirms you're scum.
Agreeing with Wojjan for the Dusty (D1) lynch since "Oops, I don't understand the reasoning but it's Wojjan.".
Changed from dkun to animask (D2) lynch only with using akro's argument.
Voted for foulcoon (D3) after Wojjan's idea of lynching a 'powerful' role.
Cool.
do you really think you can win the game lynching me? it'd be hillarous but it won't happen
i would have picked another easy lynch target lilac but wow
i would have picked another easy lynch target lilac but wow
But wow...I'm actually trying...?
I'm not at all convinced that you're town. I don't think anyone else should be...but if they do I want to know why.
I'm not at all convinced that you're town. I don't think anyone else should be...but if they do I want to know why.
yes im trying too, but you're going the wrong way
town has been awfully bad the entire game and thats why we're in the situation we're, i voted and lynched the people more scummy of everyone, you can go and check everyone that got lynched and the reasoning of my votes are them being extremely anti town
i don't expect you of being convinced that i'm town but you're risking way too much here (in case you're town ofc) and i won't allow this to happen cause it involves me loosing as well (or just me and u winning as mafia).
so please rethink things cause it's just not getting you anywhere on both alignments
town has been awfully bad the entire game and thats why we're in the situation we're, i voted and lynched the people more scummy of everyone, you can go and check everyone that got lynched and the reasoning of my votes are them being extremely anti town
i don't expect you of being convinced that i'm town but you're risking way too much here (in case you're town ofc) and i won't allow this to happen cause it involves me loosing as well (or just me and u winning as mafia).
so please rethink things cause it's just not getting you anywhere on both alignments
Okay, fine.
The next person I am more than likely convinced on being mafia is Chris. I can come up with another 3 paragraphs as to why but I want to see your opinion first, Salvage.
The next person I am more than likely convinced on being mafia is Chris. I can come up with another 3 paragraphs as to why but I want to see your opinion first, Salvage.
about chris i think everything he said on the game is pretty logical but the way he said them is odd, so it could be he's mafia from my point of view
he said obvious things several times and it seems like he tried too hard to be town sometimes, i don't have any more than that tho so that's why i don't consider a chris lynch, there are more people i feel like 'safest' lynchs over him.
he said obvious things several times and it seems like he tried too hard to be town sometimes, i don't have any more than that tho so that's why i don't consider a chris lynch, there are more people i feel like 'safest' lynchs over him.
also before you point it out, the thing of him 'surviving' just like wojjan and me its pure wifom to provoke a lynch on any of us, i'm not defending him in that case, im saying that argument its invalid.
lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafia
lol whatLilac wrote:
Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
1. Lilac <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and suddenly posts paragraphs
3. JInxyjem <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and still contributes nothing
4. Salvage <-- contributes most of the game, name gets brought up and continues to post
5. bmin11 <-- posts a lot but doesn't really contribute anything
6. dkun <-- very emotional player, could go either way
7. pieguy1372 <-- mafia after akrolsmir died, role cop scanned him imo
8. Mashley <-- bad d1 but managed to survive the entire game, hasn't really contributed
9. Wojjan <-- lead most of the lynches, contributed a lot but always wrong
10. LunaticMara <-- very inactive/makes one video/bored of the game
I have yet to see anyone actually say anything they know from their roles, which sort of makes me realize why town has sucked the entire game
I'll start it off: roleclaim watcher
dkun is definitely odd night commuter because I watched him n3 and my "ability didn't work"
salvage is the person who picked my role because he said he picked watcher
I picked animasks role
3. JInxyjem <-- contributes nothing the entire game, name gets brought up as lynch and still contributes nothing
4. Salvage <-- contributes most of the game, name gets brought up and continues to post
5. bmin11 <-- posts a lot but doesn't really contribute anything
6. dkun <-- very emotional player, could go either way
7. pieguy1372 <-- mafia after akrolsmir died, role cop scanned him imo
8. Mashley <-- bad d1 but managed to survive the entire game, hasn't really contributed
9. Wojjan <-- lead most of the lynches, contributed a lot but always wrong
10. LunaticMara <-- very inactive/makes one video/bored of the game
I have yet to see anyone actually say anything they know from their roles, which sort of makes me realize why town has sucked the entire game
I'll start it off: roleclaim watcher
dkun is definitely odd night commuter because I watched him n3 and my "ability didn't work"
salvage is the person who picked my role because he said he picked watcher
I picked animasks role
Topic Starter
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Salvage (2): dkun, Lilac
Wojjan (1): Chris
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Salvage (2): dkun, Lilac
Wojjan (1): Chris
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
why all of you aren't voting wojjan is beyond me
they are hardly confirmed town, in fact they are probably the most anti town person here
even dkun with his 2 votes is less mafia
they are hardly confirmed town, in fact they are probably the most anti town person here
even dkun with his 2 votes is less mafia
@_@ what in the
I don't know what to even think anymore, so I'm just going to go back to my first gut instinct. vote: Wojjan
Aside from that, I think it might be JInxyjem. I agree that he just seems to be posting "enough to avoid suspicion" which is what he did in some previous game, though I don't recall which one it was. I think Chris might be town, though it's just another gut feeling. I'm completely not sure about Salvage, on one hand he's acted pro-town but on the other hand everything he (and Wojjan) have done have been completely wrong, except maybe for dkun.
Who the hell suggested we lynch animask over dkun anyway? Oh wait, it was akrolsmir and dkun, wasn't it...
unvote: Wojjan
I'm going for either Wojjan or dkun. However, Salvage voting dkun is scaring me a bit. I honestly don't have a clue this game. o.o//
I don't know what to even think anymore, so I'm just going to go back to my first gut instinct. vote: Wojjan
Aside from that, I think it might be JInxyjem. I agree that he just seems to be posting "enough to avoid suspicion" which is what he did in some previous game, though I don't recall which one it was. I think Chris might be town, though it's just another gut feeling. I'm completely not sure about Salvage, on one hand he's acted pro-town but on the other hand everything he (and Wojjan) have done have been completely wrong, except maybe for dkun.
Who the hell suggested we lynch animask over dkun anyway? Oh wait, it was akrolsmir and dkun, wasn't it...
unvote: Wojjan
I'm going for either Wojjan or dkun. However, Salvage voting dkun is scaring me a bit. I honestly don't have a clue this game. o.o//
pieguy why don't you tell us who you scanned and their roles since it's lylo
N1 - Wojjan - Bodyguard
N2 - Mashley - Vengeful Vanilla
N3 - missed it by one hour so I couldn't scan anyone
N4 - dkun - Odd-night Commuter, I was too lazy to look to see if he claimed and my role is practically useless anyway because I can't tell whether someone is mafia
And it's only LyLo if the mafia has an effing vigilante, which wouldn't surprise me at all. o.o
N2 - Mashley - Vengeful Vanilla
N3 - missed it by one hour so I couldn't scan anyone
N4 - dkun - Odd-night Commuter, I was too lazy to look to see if he claimed and my role is practically useless anyway because I can't tell whether someone is mafia
And it's only LyLo if the mafia has an effing vigilante, which wouldn't surprise me at all. o.o
does vanilla confirm town or is that what mafia would get too, I don't think it does
mashley lynch pro/con
lynch him, mafia, another town gone, time bought
lynch him, town, possible shot at mafia, might lose immediately
I still want a wojjan lynch but just something to consider
mashley lynch pro/con
lynch him, mafia, another town gone, time bought
lynch him, town, possible shot at mafia, might lose immediately
I still want a wojjan lynch but just something to consider
you know what I'm good with taking a better risk than wojjan at this point
unvote vote mashley
unvote vote mashley
Considering this game I wouldn't be surprised if that could also describe a mafia role.
Also, getting an extra shot is probably a good idea, except if the mafia somehow got 2 vigilantes, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Also, getting an extra shot is probably a good idea, except if the mafia somehow got 2 vigilantes, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.
That was a joke.Chris wrote:
lilac why did you have a sudden burst of activity when your name got brought up as mafialol whatLilac wrote:
Props for confirming Wojjan's town,
...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
noLilac wrote:
That was a joke.
...And I always contribute halfway through mafia games. Also, you're voting for Mashley because he survived until now?
I'm voting for mashley because he's vengeful, which means after his lynch he gets to pick someone to kill.
if he's mafia we bought time anyways, if he's town we get an extra shot to kill a mafia
there is no better lynch
Yeah, I'll start working on the video.
BRB:
BRB:
mara if you want to be useful vote for mashley
and everyone else too please
I'm sure even Mashley will agree with this since there is no better alternatives
and everyone else too please
I'm sure even Mashley will agree with this since there is no better alternatives
I'll vote for Mash after Mara's video.
Unvote. Sorry, I really wanna see this video. XD
Unvote. Sorry, I really wanna see this video. XD
are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
I'm not sure but I don't see why notLunaticMara wrote:
are quoting from quicktopics allowed?
paraphrase just to be safe I guess