unvote, vote Sync for bandwagoning on Two when there was no vote on him. Read the thread please
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i'm confused 
he means bandwagoning with the random votes (?)pieguy1372 wrote:
unvote, vote Sync for bandwagoning on Two when there was no vote on him. Read the thread please
That wasn't even bandwagoning.
Unless you have this weird thing stuck in your head about bandwagoning on 1 vote...
Unless you have this weird thing stuck in your head about bandwagoning on 1 vote...
well, that's how I saw it, dunno about you
oh that doesn't make much sense but if that is your reasoning then it was pretty silly because you could say you were the first one to bandwagon
@pieguy
That was a random vote 
The joke was he said bandwagoning when there were 0 votes, so it doesn't really count as a bandwagon.
The joke was he said bandwagoning when there were 0 votes, so it doesn't really count as a bandwagon.oh ok that is what I thought it was at first but then I questioned it which made me confused
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FoS: dkun (adding to my confusion)
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FoS: dkun (adding to my confusion)
dkun wrote:
he means bandwagoning with the random votes (?)
That's not what I meant, but it's a RV anyway so it doesn't really matter
Vote: foulcoon
So we have a lot of votes. Let's see if they can show us something:
Chris votes dkun (RVS)
pieguy1372 votes Backfire (RVS)
Two votes Backfire (RVS)
Sync votes Two for bandwagoning (Two bandwagoned? It was only the second vote.)
Chris votes Sync for voting Two (An early chainsaw defense?)
Sync votes Chris for protecting Two (Chris defense of Two would be suspicious this early, but knowing their meta, I'm not sure.)
Mashley votes Lilac, ignoring the previous votes. (RVS?)
Lilac votes Mashley, states OMGUS as reason.
foulcoon votes Mashley, stating that Mashley's avatar has a correlation with a song that could end up as mafia. (Somewhat unreliable role spec but first actually contribution of info.)
Sync votes Mashley because he agreed with foulcoon. (Bandwagon? So ironic that you voted Two for" bandwagoning")
pieguy1372 votes Sync for bandwagoning on Two? (Didn't Sync vote Two since he was "bandwagoning"?)
bmin11 votes foulcoon (RVS? When we gotten a lot of suspicion already from the previous vote exchange?)
(See Salvage? RVS IS A USEFUL STARTING POINT.)
Looking through all of these:
Vote: Sync for hypocrisy and constantly switching votes between people.
Chris votes dkun (RVS)
pieguy1372 votes Backfire (RVS)
Two votes Backfire (RVS)
Sync votes Two for bandwagoning (Two bandwagoned? It was only the second vote.)
Chris votes Sync for voting Two (An early chainsaw defense?)
Sync votes Chris for protecting Two (Chris defense of Two would be suspicious this early, but knowing their meta, I'm not sure.)
Mashley votes Lilac, ignoring the previous votes. (RVS?)
Lilac votes Mashley, states OMGUS as reason.
foulcoon votes Mashley, stating that Mashley's avatar has a correlation with a song that could end up as mafia. (Somewhat unreliable role spec but first actually contribution of info.)
Sync votes Mashley because he agreed with foulcoon. (Bandwagon? So ironic that you voted Two for" bandwagoning")
pieguy1372 votes Sync for bandwagoning on Two? (Didn't Sync vote Two since he was "bandwagoning"?)
bmin11 votes foulcoon (RVS? When we gotten a lot of suspicion already from the previous vote exchange?)
(See Salvage? RVS IS A USEFUL STARTING POINT.)
Looking through all of these:
Vote: Sync for hypocrisy and constantly switching votes between people.
the first two votes were a joke (obviously) and the third vote was 99.9% a joke silly
unless your post is supposed to be a joke too :<
unless your post is supposed to be a joke too :<
i'm pretty sure he is serious
RVS may be "Random Voting Stage".
But any info you gain there can be used too.
And yes, I am serious.
But any info you gain there can be used too.
And yes, I am serious.
Wow you guys take RVS to a whole new level considering the game size. Salvage would be rolling in his grave seat right now.
Anyway does anyone find bmin's 'slip in, vote and disappear' suspicious? Especially considering the timing. Bottom line is I expected at least a 'joke' justification but this one just sat as a flat rvs.
Anyway does anyone find bmin's 'slip in, vote and disappear' suspicious? Especially considering the timing. Bottom line is I expected at least a 'joke' justification but this one just sat as a flat rvs.
Oh yes I will be sparse for another day or two, don't get too angry.
so how am I a hypocrite if it was a random vote
you have a pretty silly argument NoHItter. I guess the effort you put into making that list was nice though
you have a pretty silly argument NoHItter. I guess the effort you put into making that list was nice though
So you're justifying your votes as random?
The first one I can understand, but you clearly stated a reason for the second one.
And I don't think I felt the "This is really a random vote even if I placed a non-joke reasoning" feeling when you did that for the second one.
And if you were really "random voting", why bandwagon Mashley for your third vote?
The first one I can understand, but you clearly stated a reason for the second one.
And I don't think I felt the "This is really a random vote even if I placed a non-joke reasoning" feeling when you did that for the second one.
And if you were really "random voting", why bandwagon Mashley for your third vote?
NoHitter is obviously Mafia.
they did kinda try hard on that but I can't blame them for it at the same time because it's not exactly a scum tell
they could be just hunting for a reaction at the same time though
but me stating that just ruined it's chances
they could be just hunting for a reaction at the same time though
but me stating that just ruined it's chances
The second vote for Chris was clearly a joke. Anybody could see that it was. You're either looking for a reaction (like Chris said) because we don't have much to go on or you could be an idiot. I think it's the former in this case.NoHItter wrote:
So you're justifying your votes as random?
The first one I can understand, but you clearly stated a reason for the second one.
And I don't think I felt the "This is really a random vote even if I placed a non-joke reasoning" feeling when you did that for the second one.
And if you were really "random voting", why bandwagon Mashley for your third vote?
The reason I voted for Mashley is because I thought foulcoon's reasoning was pretty funny. In reality, lynching Mashley over silly speculation like that would be pretty stupid (but hilarious). In that case, I guess you could say it wasn't random, but it was meaningless.
Looks like RVS is over. What now?
Also this is officially my fourth time trying to post this. My internet keeps fucking up
Sync wrote:
The second vote for Chris was clearly a joke. Anybody could see that it was. You're either looking for a reaction (like Chris said) because we don't have much to go on or you could be an idiot. I think it's the former in this case.NoHItter wrote:
So you're justifying your votes as random?
The first one I can understand, but you clearly stated a reason for the second one.
And I don't think I felt the "This is really a random vote even if I placed a non-joke reasoning" feeling when you did that for the second one.
And if you were really "random voting", why bandwagon Mashley for your third vote?
The reason I voted for Mashley is because I thought foulcoon's reasoning was pretty funny. In reality, lynching Mashley over silly speculation like that would be pretty stupid (but hilarious). In that case, I guess you could say it wasn't random, but it was meaningless.
Looks like RVS is over. What now?
Also this is officially my fourth time trying to post this. My internet keeps fucking up
Backfire wrote:
NoHitter is obviously Mafia.
Unvote
Jesus NoHItter, all those votes were in RVS. Calm down.
Jesus NoHItter, all those votes were in RVS. Calm down.
Seems rather strong for a mafia this early in a game. Maybe I should get that type of idea out of my head but I have my doubts.
I don't even
should of done this in my post above
vote: NoHItter
should of done this in my post above
vote: NoHItter
Unvote
Even though Mashley's defense may be correct, but I think we can atleast have some info by discussing what kind of music could end up mafia or town. I'm just guessing this by my role PM, but the alignment seems to get influenced heavily by it's lyrics and the atmosphere created from it.
Even though Mashley's defense may be correct, but I think we can atleast have some info by discussing what kind of music could end up mafia or town. I'm just guessing this by my role PM, but the alignment seems to get influenced heavily by it's lyrics and the atmosphere created from it.
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Good. RVS is over and we have some fairly good reactions.
Now. dkun and Backfire, can you explain why I'm "obviously" mafia.
Good. RVS is over and we have some fairly good reactions.
Now. dkun and Backfire, can you explain why I'm "obviously" mafia.
I had predetermined if you used that excuse after I said it I would vote for youNoHItter wrote:
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Good. RVS is over and we have some fairly good reactions.
Now. dkun and Backfire, can you explain why I'm "obviously" mafia.
unvote vote nohitter
and I was about to ask them why you think NoHItter is obviously mafia, but carry on. I'm interested.
That's pretty scummy of youNoHItter wrote:
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Good. RVS is over and we have some fairly good reactions.
Now. dkun and Backfire, can you explain why I'm "obviously" mafia.
Now we have 3 people who basically just say I'm scummy without even giving their reason.
@Chris:
Sure I am scummy.
You were the one who said upfront and ruined my initial reason anyway.
@Chris:
Sure I am scummy.
You were the one who said upfront and ruined my initial reason anyway.
It was obvious.
"You guys aren't telling my WHY I'm scummy. Nice. Oh, I am scummy, by the way."
lol
Vote: NoHItter
"You guys aren't telling my WHY I'm scummy. Nice. Oh, I am scummy, by the way."
lol
Vote: NoHItter
I'm not really sure if a mafia would ever admit to being scummy like that, but maybe he's just trying to fool us
also I think nohitter wants a second chance at winning as mafia against rantai
whyChris wrote:
zzz sync stop making me want to vote for you again
I like how you want us to understand your 'joke' while you don't understand NoHItter's sarcasm and votes for it
02. Two <--- never mafia, possibly picked
03. Rantai <--- half/half, probably gave both types of songs
04. Lilac <--- never mafia, possibly picked
05. bmin11 <--- never mafia?, probably both types
06. pieguy1372 <--- never mafia, probably mafia
07. Sync <--- lynched too much, probably town
08. Backfire <--- inactive, probably town
09. Mashley <--- town cause they don't like getting lynched
10. foulcoon <--- always mafia, probably picked town
11. NoHItter <--- wants to beat rantai, mafia
12. dkun <--- mafia
I wonder how right this is
03. Rantai <--- half/half, probably gave both types of songs
04. Lilac <--- never mafia, possibly picked
05. bmin11 <--- never mafia?, probably both types
06. pieguy1372 <--- never mafia, probably mafia
07. Sync <--- lynched too much, probably town
08. Backfire <--- inactive, probably town
09. Mashley <--- town cause they don't like getting lynched
10. foulcoon <--- always mafia, probably picked town
11. NoHItter <--- wants to beat rantai, mafia
12. dkun <--- mafia
I wonder how right this is
Should we soft claim our song genre? idk
it wouldn't help anything considering it's impossible to prove
unless cops get song names and alignment
also it'd give some insight into what type of role you got
unless cops get song names and alignment
also it'd give some insight into what type of role you got
the role was something I was worried of. For me, my song doesn't really reflects my role well, but I was worried of others.
Well I picked 70s pop so yknow
But I don't think that's going to get anywhere since scum would almost certainly lie if they had a scummy sounding genre.
And besides I think the roles were based more on lyrics than music.
But I don't think that's going to get anywhere since scum would almost certainly lie if they had a scummy sounding genre.
And besides I think the roles were based more on lyrics than music.
Where was the sarcasm? I thought it was an accusation.bmin11 wrote:
I like how you want us to understand your 'joke' while you don't understand NoHItter's sarcasm and votes for it
I'm not inactive.
I'm just chilling =w=
I'm just chilling =w=
So the day ends in around 20 hours...
Well gambit failed.
Was planning on intentionally acting scummy then lynch one of the people who bandwagoned me without giving their reasoning, but it failed since people apparently don't post enough.
So right now, Vote: dkun
Among the three who voted me, he gave the least reasoning as to why - only parroting what Backfire said.
Well gambit failed.
Was planning on intentionally acting scummy then lynch one of the people who bandwagoned me without giving their reasoning, but it failed since people apparently don't post enough.
So right now, Vote: dkun
Among the three who voted me, he gave the least reasoning as to why - only parroting what Backfire said.
least reason is still a reason
intentionally acting scummy? hell, you're probably just scum all in all
what a nice tactic you have there, too bad it's not going to work
intentionally acting scummy? hell, you're probably just scum all in all
what a nice tactic you have there, too bad it's not going to work
Tell me then dkun what's your EXACT reason for voting for me?
Also stop scumpainting me.
Also stop scumpainting me.
ya I really think you wanted to have a second go at winning as mafia because of his last game
why so vengeful nohitter
why so vengeful nohitter
FTR, I sent in my choices before the Unnamed Mafia ended.
Really though, scumpainting ISN'T something town should do.
Really though, scumpainting ISN'T something town should do.
that was really terrible and it makes no senseNoHItter wrote:
Well gambit failed.
Was planning on intentionally acting scummy then lynch one of the people who bandwagoned me without giving their reasoning, but it failed since people apparently don't post enough.
why would you
if you intentionally made yourself scummy, the reason is beyond obvious
that's like someone roleclaiming mafia and saying voting for them without posting a reason is scummy
Modified Fong's Gambit.
That's why I said that I would vote for someone who voted for me, but gave little reasoning.
Basically someone who just wanted to hop on the bandwagon, but give no justification as to why.
That's why I said that I would vote for someone who voted for me, but gave little reasoning.
Basically someone who just wanted to hop on the bandwagon, but give no justification as to why.
come on now nohitter even you know quoting the wiki like it's some sort of evidence is scummy
I don't see how it's scummy...
Do you just hate how people rely on the wiki?
Do you just hate how people rely on the wiki?
I am obviously the best townie, NoHitter. I swayed opinion against you with no reason and they did the scum painting for me.
Results of said experiment was astonishing.
The fact that i'm not lynched yet is even more surprising.
But im town js
Results of said experiment was astonishing.
The fact that i'm not lynched yet is even more surprising.
But im town js
Chris is mafia.
Yes, Chris has to be mafia because he called you Town.
Lilac is also Mafia.
Well ok. But I'm pretty sure all 3 of you are mafias.
also I'm probably gonna die tonight from being too good so make sure to watch me~
Well you wanted me to explain my gambit and I did.Chris wrote:
come on now nohitter even you know quoting the wiki like it's some sort of evidence is scummy
How is quoting the wiki scummy?
You just say it is, but give no justification whatsoever.
using the wiki as evidence is just a cop out, especially when your supposed gambit wasn't even close to the page you linked
town don't have to look up bad strategies to scum hunt, but mafia do as an excuse for being bad
town don't have to look up bad strategies to scum hunt, but mafia do as an excuse for being bad
Fong's Gambit = Vote yourself -> Entice scum to vote for you -> Vote for them
My Gambit (Modified Fong's) = Act scummy -> Entice people to vote for you -> Vote for the people who just "bandwagoned" without giving any reasoning/ parroted other's reasoning
How exactly are they very different?
My Gambit (Modified Fong's) = Act scummy -> Entice people to vote for you -> Vote for the people who just "bandwagoned" without giving any reasoning/ parroted other's reasoning
How exactly are they very different?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
how about the fact voting for yourself doesn't make you a target or look like scum
looking like scum makes you a target, and you know, look like scum
their reasoning is the fact you act like scum
how hard is that to grasp
how about the fact voting for yourself doesn't make you a target or look like scum
looking like scum makes you a target, and you know, look like scum
their reasoning is the fact you act like scum
how hard is that to grasp
You have it wrong.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
I pretty much tried this gambit with rust's Kinda Experimental Mafia. It worked until Rantai was being shifty like always.
I do admit though, it is kinda stupid...
I do admit though, it is kinda stupid...
Sorry, flight called
Anyway I just landed and got home so I should get back to normal activity now.
Anyway I just landed and got home so I should get back to normal activity now.
The problem with that is that most people tend to just vote willy-nilly anyway especially on day 1. If my memory serves right simply saying that particular people may have a mafia role will automatically get a bandwagon started on you despite the alignment of said voters. As far as I am concerned that doesn't constitute reasoning.NoHItter wrote:
You have it wrong.
I knew that looking like scum would place "legitimate" voters on me with reasons and all.
BUT I was looking for those who just voted me with little/no reasoning.
Those who do that would just be looking for an "easy" lynch, so would bandwagon with little justification.
And those who do that, would get my vote.
Fong's Gambit is difficult to play since it's pretty obvious, but what I tried to do was less obvious.
So the gambit itself is full of flaws.
I don't think the gambit is a flaw because I managed to pull it off once.
I think the flaw is how and where it's used. My personal opinion though.
I think the flaw is how and where it's used. My personal opinion though.
I was referring to this particular gambit.
that gambit sucks in any situation
it's pretty much how to suck at mafia 101
it's pretty much how to suck at mafia 101
I'd say it could work in other situations but not with this community and time of day.
Also where the hell is Two?
I can only see 1 RVS vote and that's it.
Also where the hell is Two?
I can only see 1 RVS vote and that's it.
Topic Starter
Wojjan-Sucks-at-Votals Votals
NoHItter - 3 - dkun, Chris, Sync
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
Backfire - 1 - Two
dkun - 1 - NoHItter
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
With twelve alive, seven is a majority.
NoHItter - 3 - dkun, Chris, Sync
Sync - 1 - pieguy1372
Backfire - 1 - Two
dkun - 1 - NoHItter
Mashley - 2 - Lilac, foulcoon
With twelve alive, seven is a majority.
03. Rantai
05. bmin11
08. Backfire
09. Mashley
you guys should vote
05. bmin11
08. Backfire
09. Mashley
you guys should vote
I'm not confident enough on any lead right now. I'm not going to throw out a vote with the same weight as a RV.
lynching the only person to do anything d1 is the osu way
don't you know that
don't you know that
God is this another post restriction gambit thing.
It's always that or bulletproof x.x
It's always that or bulletproof x.x
Vote : NoHitter
Happy nowwww
Happy nowwww
Claim: Cop
Song: Reach Out To The Truth
I was fairly confident that I wouldn't get lynched because of this claim.
Sucks though that I had to use it.
Song: Reach Out To The Truth
I was fairly confident that I wouldn't get lynched because of this claim.
Sucks though that I had to use it.
Vote dkun guys.
He should be scum following my logic.
He should be scum following my logic.
anyone who doesn't switch their vote is mafia
also nohitter even though your role is easy to lie about if you're mafia which is convenient, if you don't die within the next day or so you're obviously mafia
if there is another cop scan him
also nohitter even though your role is easy to lie about if you're mafia which is convenient, if you don't die within the next day or so you're obviously mafia
if there is another cop scan him
Unvote, Vote : dkun
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c:
Wrong Chris.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
wrong nohitter.NoHItter wrote:
Wrong Chris.
If I were really mafia, then there should be a real cop who should "counterclaim" cop.
Until someone counterclaims of anything, I should be confirmed as a cop.
If someone does counterclaim, lynch either one of us. One of us will have to be mafia.
there can just be no cop
which is especially likely in a 12 person game
So basically, you're saying that if scum doesn't kill me, I'm scum?
That's faulty logic, given the fact that we may actually have a doctor who could protect me.
Scum would want to target the doctor first before killing me since the doctor would 90% protect the claimed cop. (Follow the Cop strategy)
That's faulty logic, given the fact that we may actually have a doctor who could protect me.
Scum would want to target the doctor first before killing me since the doctor would 90% protect the claimed cop. (Follow the Cop strategy)
Claim: Even-Niight Tracker
Song: Sunday Morning - Maroon 5
ok guys
Song: Sunday Morning - Maroon 5
ok guys
unvote
nohitters probably gonna get lynched anyways
I don't see you being even night on here and odd night in another game, but ok
nohitters probably gonna get lynched anyways
I don't see you being even night on here and odd night in another game, but ok
neither do I, but I get what I get
noh is so scum wtf kind of logic is that
noh is so scum wtf kind of logic is that
Oh crap. That explains why Wojjan "balanced" my role.
dkun, can you confirm that you were once a full Tracker, then Wojjan changed it to even-night?
Wojjan did something similar to me.
dkun, can you confirm that you were once a full Tracker, then Wojjan changed it to even-night?
Wojjan did something similar to me.
nada, even night from the start
but it was "edited" once, so nfi