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Werewolf Game 2 [Concluded; Human Victory]

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Echo
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Complaint
You can't just create some "item" in the middle of the game and "give" it to somebody, especially something that allows multiple votes from the same person. I don't think the game is being played properly and fairly at all. (@commandhat)

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Back to reasoning:

We can't kill either kuwarudo or LadySuburu today. Both have claimed a powerful role (at least, kuwarudo claimed through Suburu). You can't risk an aux role "just in case" they're an assassin. Fact-based evidence please, not "what-ifs".
kuwarudo
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kuwarudo

Echo wrote:

We can't kill either kuwarudo or LadySuburu today. Both have claimed a powerful role (at least, kuwarudo claimed through Suburu). You can't risk an aux role "just in case" they're an assassin. Fact-based evidence please, not "what-ifs".
lol how'd you know
commandhat
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commandhat
Fine, fine, I'll edit out the fact it ever existed.

Edit: Done.

Edit2: removed angry face for fear of Ace forcing my death because I wanted it to stay in play.

Delete this post
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Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Now I'm not so jealous :P
You could always make a fake item claiming its a real one since you can do that with roles too...I think.
Echo
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kuwarudo wrote:

Echo wrote:

We can't kill either kuwarudo or LadySuburu today. Both have claimed a powerful role (at least, kuwarudo claimed through Suburu). You can't risk an aux role "just in case" they're an assassin. Fact-based evidence please, not "what-ifs".
lol how'd you know
She made a post about it. Maybe now's a good time to stop posting and start reading?
viewtopic.php?p=126857#p126857
AceOfArrows
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AceOfArrows
Yeah, I'm not gonna be allowing something like that.

There shall be no creation or distribution of any item that would disallow a player's vote or allow extra vote(s) from the same individual. Items of said type would BREAK THE LYNCH VOTING SYSTEM.

I'm weird with "items," but as long as they don't show Role IDs or break the voting system, there really isn't much I can do about it (just please, please, please do not decide to charge ME with one of your items when you die; I've already got tons of other crap to pay attention to for this game and your note will not help me any).

A<3 puts his foot down: NO BREAKING THE VOTING SYSTEM.
kuwarudo
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commandhat
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commandhat
"good points. Yet, if I unvote Subaru, Kuu will be killed (there's a tie.)"
"Awwwwww WHATEVER. I'll just unvote and hope others do the same."
Revoke Vote on LadySubaru
Vote on Rolled for no particular reason. :P
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Makes random guesses....
kuwardo - normal human or unknown celebrity (lolz)
commandhat - aux role human
thepianist - werewolf (assasin w/e) idk if they can have the same ....(reads beginning post) kay...
Echo - coroner

I'm too lazy to vote but I have the energy to do this...
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AceOfArrows
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Okay, standings are updated.

On the matter of Echo's accusation toward commandhat of attempting to break the voting system:

For the record, I did see commandhat's post before he edited it.

It certainly looked to me like something that might break the voting system some way, but he never explicitly said anything of the sort. (Echo's accusation led me to reread the post before it was edited.)

Since evidence is inconclusive, I do not feel that I can kick him out of the game, or that it even warrants a Phantom Vote; regardless, this activity was rather questionable, and therefore as punishment I shall be placing -1 suspicion point on commandhat's head.

A<3 HAS SPOKEN.
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Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
-does something mildly humurous-
animask creates an item~!
Epic Revenge

This item is given to the first person to become lynched.
Before this person is lynched they must choose a person.
That person will have to be called the person that is lynched for the rest of the game.
If someone calls that person by their original name then the name is passed to them.



can this work?

EDIT
Its not like I meant that as official
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commandhat
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Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Okay, standings are updated.

On the matter of Echo's accusation toward commandhat of attempting to break the voting system:

For the record, I did see commandhat's post before he edited it.

It certainly looked to me like something that might break the voting system some way, but he never explicitly said anything of the sort. (Echo's accusation led me to reread the post before it was edited.)

Since evidence is inconclusive, I do not feel that I can kick him out of the game, or that it even warrants a Phantom Vote; regardless, this activity was rather questionable, and therefore as punishment I shall be placing -1 suspicion point on commandhat's head.

A<3 HAS SPOKEN.
Rather generous of you, actually. Thanks for letting me stay in the game, even if I am more suspicious now. 8-)
Decided what the heck, since I was doing something stupid I might as well try to make things right and take the punishment. Little paragraph about items for possible addition to main post?
Items
Yes, they are allowed, as long as they do not alter votes in any way, or force people to show their role IDs. Doing so would break the lynch voting system, causing the Werewolf game to become uninteresting and therefore shut down. A<3 will punish you however he wants if he sees this happening.
Use as you wish.
EDIT: Goddamnit, animask. That's breaking the lynch voting system. Actually, I just say we stop with this item business, and play it as if you were instant crushed for trying to create one.

delete this post
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kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
GOD HAS SPOKEN


*BOW* *BOW*
AceOfArrows
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AceOfArrows
commandhat quoted: "Yes, they are allowed, as long as they do not alter votes in any way, or force people to show their role IDs. Doing so would break the lynch voting system, causing the Werewolf game to become uninteresting and therefore shut down. A<3 will punish you however he wants if he sees this happening."

I would love to know who you quoted.

animask wrote:

animask creates an item~!
Epic Revenge

This item is given to the first person to become lynched.
Before this person is lynched they have a 30% chance of surviving.
If they survive they must remain in the game until someone of the opposite side is lynched.
After someone on the opposing side is lynched the person that recieves this item instantly dies.
If they do not survive using this item they will be lynched as usual.

can this work?
NO. I will not allow items that give additional chance of survival.

We've ALREADY got MORE than enough ways for the Humans to increase their chances through Auxiliary Roles.
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kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
Can I make the item


Cheeseburger (without the cheese)

I don't like cheese very much.
commandhat
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commandhat
I'll just shut up.
EDIT: It's only in quote boxes to separate it from the rest of the post. Shutting up now.

delete this post
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Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
I guess I'll enjoy myself by making items that aren't even related to winning or losing this game.
I have a new role in life~!
lolz intended

Claim: Item Maker
AceOfArrows
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YellowerYoshi
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With all the commotion over the homemade items going on, YellowYoshi1 simply let out an annoyed sigh and looked to the lynch tally.

"What? I have 2 votes against me?"

When did that happen? Had he already said something to peeve people this early in the game?

"Gawd... who brought me back to this stupid game anyways?"
kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
*makes hamburger*

*takes bite*
*spits out what he just bit*

CRAP I HATE KETCHUP WHY DID I PUT SOME
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Sleep Powder
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YellowYoshi1 wrote:

With all the commotion over the homemade items going on, YellowYoshi1 simply let out an annoyed sigh and looked to the lynch tally.

"What? I have 2 votes against me?"

When did that happen? Had he already said something to peeve people this early in the game?

"Gawd... who brought me back to this stupid game anyways?"
"Don't feel so bad its only 2 votes...even though I have none against me"
animask tries to comfort YellowYoshi1 a bit.
"I have some advice for you...just don't act too dangerous"
kuwarudo
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foulcoon
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i creat itamz k

The Sword of a Thousand Truths

This is a legendary sword passed on through generations of warriors. Adorned with jewels, it's blade reveals the inner secrets of others. In the presence of evil, the sword will emanate a full blue color.

IT ALSO MAKES THE BEARER INVISIBLE, AND INVINCIBLE. OH YEAH, AND U GET FREE PIZZA WEN U SHO IT TO THE PIZZA GUY
Echo
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kuwarudo
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Ok, Echo.


GUYS STOP YOUR FAGGOTRY I mean foolishness.
AceOfArrows
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Echo, Animask and YellowYoshi1: The only three people who have actually made MEANINGFUL POSTS in the last several pages. MOAR LIEK THIS PLSKTHX.

*goes to bed*
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commandhat
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"Um...animask..."
"What?"
"You've got a vote on there too."
"Whatever."
"Eh. Let's see if I can do something other then acidentally annoy--OH LOOK A WII"
*races over to the Wii hidden behind his couch*
*pulls out a second, third, and fourth Wii controllers*
"Care to play anyone? I have a few games back here too"
*is mad thankful for being able to carry that with him

I do random stuff, mainly appealing to Kuu's inner gamer. :P

keep this post
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foulcoon
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Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Echo, Animask and YellowYoshi1: The only three people who have made meaningful posts in the last several pages. MOAR LIEK THIS PLSKTHX.

*goes to bed*
Really? animask?

I don't think you actually read his posts.

Also my vote stands. Although Echo makes a good point, something just seems really fishy about the whole thing. I guess I'll take the rest of the week (which is a really long time, jesus) to think things through.
Sleep Powder
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Skill Scroll
Super-Deluxe-Ultimate-Chocolate-Covered-Sparkly-Super Nova Serve

If you get lynched next this skill will automatically be deleted from your skills list.

This skill enables you to win at any sporting event involving serving or balls.
You also get to keep a Dragoon as a pet if you survive the whole game.

(cant resist)
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commandhat
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animask. Back to roleplaying. NAO. *holds up a Wii controller threateningly*

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Sleep Powder
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"Aww but the Wii doesn't have good games..."
"Find something thats actually fun for me"
commandhat
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"Try shouting at the sky. Works for Kuwarudo, should work for you."
"And don't forget I'm taking this back at the end of this, it's not a prize >_>"
kuwarudo
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Kuwarudo is shocked.

Why is there a Wii in this Final Fantasy Universe? Where are the machina?

Where the fuck are the chocobos?!

Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
"Shouting to the sky actually works?"
animask starts to shout something.
"Can I have an extra-large pizza and a game for Wii thats actually fun?"
"Make that an extra-large cheese pizza with green peppers and some diet soda"
"I should restrain myse...make that 2 pizzas!"
"and more games"
animask looks back at the Wii.
"I wonder if my wish...I mean I wonder if it will come true"
Jinxy
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foulcoon wrote:

i creat itamz k

The Sword of a Thousand Truths

This is a legendary sword passed on through generations of warriors. Adorned with jewels, it's blade reveals the inner secrets of others. In the presence of evil, the sword will emanate a full blue color.

IT ALSO MAKES THE BEARER INVISIBLE, AND INVINCIBLE. OH YEAH, AND U GET FREE PIZZA WEN U SHO IT TO THE PIZZA GUY
To hell with this. My katana is still the best.




Unvote
Vote JInxyjem

You heard me. There is too much crap to seive through so now my brain cant work properly. I dont want to get a phantom tomorrow either.
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kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
I held the sword of a thousand truths, it turned pink.

WHAT DO I DO
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder

kuwarudo wrote:

I held the sword of a thousand truths, it turned pink.

WHAT DO I DO
Item Change
The sword of a thousand truths has changed into the Pink Sword of Pink of Pink of a Pink of a Thousand Pink of Truths
Jinxy
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kuwarudo wrote:

I held the sword of a thousand truths, it turned pink.

WHAT DO I DO
*Grabs sword from kuwarudo and throws it in the air*

"Beccata di Rondine."

*Jinxy's katana is thrusted multiple at the sword*
*The so-called sword of truths shatters into scrap metal*

"...Weak."
kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
Does that mean I'm gay :/
Sleep Powder
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commandhat
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animask wrote:

kuwarudo wrote:

I held the sword of a thousand truths, it turned pink.

WHAT DO I DO
Item Change
The sword of a thousand truths has changed into the Pink Sword of Pink of Pink of a Pink of a Thousand Pink of Truths
CONTROL CONTROL...5...4...3...2...
Stop with the (**&^%* items. I've had enough of that crap.

Edit: I can't count >_<

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kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
I think I'll follow animask on this one.

I won't post for a few hours here.
Loginer
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animask wrote:

"Aww but the Wii doesn't have good games..."
"Find something thats actually fun for me"
Jinxy
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Someone delete those irrelevent item posts crap.
Its not even day 2 and we are passing the 1st werewolf game page.
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kuwarudo
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Loginer wrote:

animask wrote:

"Aww but the Wii doesn't have good games..."
"Find something thats actually fun for me"

I'M SO SORRY GUYS BUT THIS POST IS JUST TOO AWESOME FOR ME TO PASS.
Echo
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I'm going to go through and delete all pointless posts if Ace agrees.

If you have nothing to do all day except spam post, no one's stopping you from making your own thread. But take that crap out of here. I swear I'm going to put kuwarudo on mod queue if he makes any more irrelevant posts (or anyone else for that matter).

late edit: permission to delete useless posts?
YellowerYoshi
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YellowYoshi1 shrugged off animask at his attempt to comfort him, he was already numb of all feeling from the last game. He didn't think anything would phase him anymore at this point, not even his own death.

He simply walked away with a wave, "...I dunno, the gas chamber might be less painful than whatever the Assassins might do to us..."
Loginer
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Considering kuwarudo's slightly suicidal behavior earlier in the game, I find it unlikely for him to be neither the guardian angel nor an assassin. With that in mind, I would vote for LadySuburu, but it would be kind of risky to kill off someone who could potentially play an important role in killing off the assassins. For now, I'll just place my vote on someone who made me read more than 5 pages full of crappy posts to make sure I didn't miss anything important: animask.
Rolled
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Cuddlebun
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What the fuck? I come back after a night and I have four pages of shit to read through? There's no discussion at all that even influences my vote.

Rawr.
Rena-chan
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*yawns*
Join the club, Tode.
adam2046
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Hmm, while my logic is quite flawed I'm going to stick with YY until I find someone I find a bit more suspicious.
I'm not quite sure I see what Rolled is saying...
Jarby
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Jarby
Every post should influence your vote. Every post.
Larto
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Larto
I just tried to read the last pages with a bad mood.
I stopped at page 16. I then proceeded to facepalm and close the tab.
Suddenly I thought of posting this process.
kuwarudo, you're an idiot. Also, I will neither read nor care about any posts here because everytime I read one of those pointless posts I WANT TO RIP MY EYES OUT. So do not expect me do to shit. kthx.

tl;dr: Larto does not care about any posts at the moment.
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Jinxy
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Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Echo, Animask and YellowYoshi1: The only three people who have actually made MEANINGFUL POSTS in the last several pages. MOAR LIEK THIS PLSKTHX.

*goes to bed*
*Cough* *Cough* *Choke*


I cant believe I didnt see this.
commandhat
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commandhat
I've sent off a PM to A<3. Hopefully he will see that before having to read through two more pages of text.

EDIT: alowufghlkajwhiufhlju I keep forgetting to put roleplaying in my post so I don't have to delete it.

commandhat pokes his head out the window, staring at the role board.
"Wha?"
"JInxy voted for himself? that's...probably not odd considering all this crap on the radio IO've been hearing."
commandhat trots back to his Wii, and starts up Yoshi's Island - his favorite game!
"Hmmmmmm. It could just beWHOAH that JInxy is trying psychology onDANGIT...on us."
"He's got a valid reaDAM...reason, but I really wouldn't expect thatGOT HIM he'd be using radio as a source for his HI THAR - his reason, I mean, he could just ignore it."
"Eh. Might as well put him down since I have no reason for voting Rolled."

Revoke Vote on Rolled
Vote on JInxyjem
eee
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eee

Rolled wrote:

Echo wrote:

I'm going to go through and delete all pointless posts if Ace agrees.

If you have nothing to do all day except spam post, no one's stopping you from making your own thread. But take that crap out of here. I swear I'm going to put kuwarudo on mod queue if he makes any more irrelevant posts (or anyone else for that matter).
I am all for this. All of the crap in this thread makes the game rather troublesome to follow, and it's really easy to lose interest..

Todesengal wrote:

What the F? I come back after a night and I have four pages of spit to read through? There's no discussion at all that even influences my vote.

Rawr.
that "rawr" sounds odd. . . . . . but assassin's don't rawr, do they.
anyways, back to the useless posts:
I really think kuwarudo got some role that he doesn't like/has no power over, something that will waste the lynch voting as he is wishing to lose, probably wating for the next game (if there's gonna be one) until he gets the role he wants.
anyways, let's get back to business.
who spells Pleeeese instead of pleeese?? huh? I'll tell you, ASSASSINS!!!
I mean, have you seen Assassin's Creed "Altair: I'm gonna ask you nicely, can you Pleeeese give me the map"
I would vote against LadySuburu, due to suspicion
I'll vote for Kuwarudo because he wants it, I also read (i thinkn) that if somebody is voted off, they don't get to post in this thread again, it would be much easier to sleep. Then, the real game would start.
Mashley
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Agent Spn Here slowly walked out the door of his home. He'd been having wierd dreams, but he'd become accustomed to that.
He saw kuwarudo going around annoying people, but that was nothing unusual.
Luckily for Spin, it looked like kuwarudo wouldn't be with us for much longer.
LadySuburu
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I'd like to know who read my post at the bottom of page 14, and who is conveniently ignoring it. Those of you who have at least said "I've read it and will think it over.", thanks.

Those like eee who seem to have completely missed it however, need to read it.

To Kuwa: If you're really the guardian angel like you've told me in PM, then stop attempting to get lynched. Ugh.
Sir Minelli
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kuwarudo wrote:

Oh, you're wondering Ace why I'm all please kill me, it's because if you see in the last game, no one paid attention to me.
What you are currently doing is a bad way to call for somebody's attention if you ask me.


About deleting posts. I disagree.

I know there are stupid lame posts with no sense. Unluckily or luckily, we already read them all.

Besides this forum IS for posting crap, even if doing so fucks up the entire game.

You can't delete posts. You will be messing with personal thoughts/ideas. Wouldn't be fair.

Don't get me wrong. I'm totally against "LameNotGameRelatedPostsWtfWereYouThinkingBeforePostingThis?"

I suggest a GAME RULE saying that the posts inside the game thread should relate to the GAME only and should focus on the development of the game, rather than focusing on bringing the game down.

This goes for everyone.
adam2046
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The problem is with people who AREN'T reading posts because of all the crap.
This is the FORUM GAMES and random, this is the place where you post shit AND games, unless your game is shit.
All for deleting shitty useless posts that are preventing people from voting with a full collection of information.
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Larto
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Okay, after I've finally.. tried to read the last several pages, I just cannot vote for Kuwarudo anymore. Nor for Suburu. I still think a roleclaim on the first day is wtfux crazy, but Suburu has his reasons, which I have understood.


Change Vote from Kuwarudo to nardi.
Rolled
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Rolled

Sir Minelli wrote:

Vote Animask

No info available.

I will re vote against you if my theory is correct.
Is there any reason you don't want to share the theory with everybody else?
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
I'll decide on a vote when all the votes so far have been accounted for....
Echo
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We'll leave the delete/don't delete decision to Ace.
----

As for the hesitation to believe Suburu:

Usually in standard games, if you have both a seer and a healer (by seer I mean psychic in this game), having the seer reveal on the first day and the healer healing him/her every night (WITHOUT revealing) is a surefire way for the villagers to win, provided the villagers don't do anything stupid. Suburu is an experienced player; she would know this. If you don't believe me, grab a book on Game Theory.

Yes, in this game, the healer has potentially been revealed. This still gives us at least one free assassin.

Remember: at this stage, the order of kills doesn't really matter much. If Suburu fails to deliver an assassin for us to lynch on day 2, then we can kill her. If she is what she claims, then we get a free assassin tomorrow, making us even with the dead villager count. If she's an assassin in disguise and points the finger at a villager, then we still get to kill her the next day, so we'd be 3 for 1. If she decides to sacrifice her teammate to convince us, then we'd still be 2 for 2 by day 3.

No matter what, if Suburu wants to live, she'll have to keep coughing up assassins. There is no reason to lynch her now, until we can verify her claim.

And yes, I'm a humble villager.

Download: Thymeka - Coward Montblanc ~Italian Version~ (Gio96b) [Kurohana's Hard].osu
Rolled
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Echo wrote:

And yes, I'm a humble villager.
We heard you the first time, Echo ;(. Why feel the need to reassure us when you are providing a strategy for a sure-fire civvie win. That should be information enough..

Am I digging to deep here Echo?
foulcoon
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While you make a good point, who's to say you aren't poisoning the minds of all of us. People need to understand that these people can be lying to your face. There's nothing stopping me from believing that LadySuburu, kuwarudo, and Echo are the assassins, and are lying to swiftly kill off everyone else. If this were the case, this game could be over VERY quickly. While there seems to be something to gain from announcing your role on the first day, I just don't see it going as easily as we plan.

For day one, this sure has become exciting to say the least.

P.S. - I'm not accusing these people, I just don't want people to be quick to trust anyone on the first day.
Echo
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And you shouldn't be trusting people easily on the first day. kuwarudo did a bad thing in telling Suburu he was healer without digging deeper into her identity first.

Get on IRC, have a chat, and assure yourself that everyone is who they claim to be.

Do you think I'd be backing up/accusing people without being sure of what I believe, after what happened last game?

@rolled: I felt the need to say that.
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun
I'm going to see how Suburu's "strategy" plays out...if nothing really seems to happen, you can bet your ass I'm voting for kuwarudo.

Also I'm luling at the mixture of references to Suburu genderwise. Half say 'he/his/him', half say 'she/her's/her'
BagelBob_old
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BagelBob_old
Oh my gosh, so much has been revealed!

Kuu hates Cheese!

foulcoon remembers Unforgotten Realms!

I'm still a bit unsure of Suburu's allegiance, but...

Wojjan, you not only claim a secret diary, full of who knows what sort of stuff that you only release to a few certain people? Could those be your assassin buddies?

On top of that you vote to put "Kuu" at 6 votes without much explanation!
Bussing if I ever saw it!

Vote: Wojjan

I'm keeping a log of the voting in order (Ace's list doesn't have unvotes/revotes in order). If anyone wants a copy, PM me on the forums. The highest someone has gotten at one point so far is "kuu" at 6 followed by Tode(4) from Echo and Suburu(4) from commandhat

Notice I never call Suburu "he/she/it". You can't go wrong typing Suburu every time for her.
Neo@lex
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With his makeshift PC complete, Neo was able to finally take a look at the big picture.
Using his toenail mouse and polystyrene keyboard, he navigated to the forums.

BagelBob wrote:

Notice I never call Suburu "he/she/it". You can't go wrong typing Suburu every time for her.
I lol'd.

I'm not sure what to think about everyone else, but Subi's case intrigues me.
From what I've seen, I'm gonna assume, she's a human, and that the claim was true.
(He refers to himself ingame as "she", so I will too.)
What perplexes me is the way Kuwa fits so nicely into the picture, yet he himself acted so retarded at the start of the game. I highly doubt that he would have been able to anticipate how things would change, and so I don't think he's actually the guardian angel. I'm not gonna jump to conclusions, but it seems like a good strategy to gain trust by claiming a role through a PM and then use that false sense of security to wolf-kill a vital role.
Then again, this could all be part of a plan by Subi, Animask, or even... Larto?
Wait, no. Definitely not Larto.

Anyway, I'm not gonna vote until tomorrow night (IRL). There's shitloads of theories so far, and any one of them could be right.

Oh and I suggest rape.
...in America Junon!
kuwarudo
287 posts
Joined February 2009
kuwarudo
Ugh, fine, I'm here again, and I just wanted to say sorry for posting too much, I know that it made the game hard for everyone, so I'm sorry. Really, I am.


So, I'll say it again, sorry guys.


By the way, Nevermind.
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun
Uhhhh Suburu's a dude. I've heard him on vent; he's definitely a dude. foulcoon can back me up on this.
Pasonia
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Pasonia
I'm against kuwarudo.

So my vote goes to kuwarudo.

LadySuburu knows my reasons as I've spoken to him prior about kuwarudo. I mean, we'll be better off getting rid of aux roles who would unknowingly reveal themselves to the Assassins.

Also, from the last game, I don't like him. All of what he posts (read: ALL) are counter-productive and kills my mood to RP. And I don't believe I'm alone in thinking this way.
Echo
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That logic is broken, Pasonia - why kill him ourselves when we know the assassins would kill him tonight anyway? If you do that, you're just offering the assassins a free kill.
Pasonia
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Pasonia
How can we be so sure he's not an Assassin, either? We have a 33% chance, thereabouts, to lynch an assassin today; we've got a sizable number of players this so the first-day lynch doesn't really matter. I'd say things heat up more towards the third day onwards, when the situation is clearer. At least to more than half of us, that is.

Precisely because of that, that is why I want to get rid of the blight early. He might be an aux, yes, but what if he reveals his knowledge of the "who's who" to the assassins? That'll be baaaaaaaaad.
kuwarudo
287 posts
Joined February 2009
kuwarudo
Pasonia, I'm sticking with the claim that I'm a guardian angel or support mage, whatever.


*edit*

Who's who?? I don't even know any other roles.
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YoshiKart
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YoshiKart
I'm appalled at seeing us up to page 22 of this thread already.

And I'm throwing my two cents in by saying don't vote for kuwarudo. It's not worth it. xD
YellowerYoshi
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YellowerYoshi
YellowYoshi1 quietly listened to the large amount of strategy and debate going on as he leaned on the wall of a nearby building. He looked out to the ocean and wished he was out there somewhere, sailing away from this place.

Finally, he walked towards where people were gathered and began to speak, "Look, there's no way of knowing whose claims are true and whose are false, so I'd recommend being a little more hesitant in trusting people around here. As for me? I don't like Echo's constant claims of being a a civilian. Why's he find it so necessary to continually mention it?"

YellowYoshi1 tells everyone to be a little more hesitant in trusting people and then voices his distrust of Echo. Lynch vote changed to Echo.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Yuukari-Banteki
coming in as a nonplayer im really wondering why the heck people doubt Echo's logic when its perfectly easy to follow by anyone with half a brain regardless of his actual role. As he said, anyone could pick up a book on game theory and find all of that, or turn on their minds for a moment and realize it for themselves.

That is all.
adam2046
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adam2046
Pasonia just jumped up 10 points on my suspicion list, I mean, voting on Kuwarudo because he might reveal "the who's who"? That doesn't even make sense, if you mean he'll reaveal the aux roles, it would seem that no one besides Suburu would even be able to put up with him (which itself is pretty damn suspicious) which would mean he could only reveal Suburu who is already revealed, I don't know about you but I think most asassins actually read the thread.

If it's around a 33% chance then why not kill someone else who might be an assassin? I mean atleast kuwarudo has a chance of helping us.
I would like to know what you mean by "aux roles would unknowingly reveal themselves to the Assassins." we still need aux roles, are you suggesting we should kill the roles because they reveal themselves? (I really don't get what you mean, seriously)
I've probably misunderstood most of what you've said, you could be alot clearer with what you said (instead of mysteriously confusing.) so for now atleast, I'm watching you.
Echo
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Pasonia wrote:

we've got a sizable number of players this so the first-day lynch doesn't really matter.
...
He might be an aux, yes, but what if he reveals his knowledge of the "who's who" to the assassins? That'll be baaaaaaaaad.
What sort of logic is that? If you think we should kill someone random and hope for the 33% (it's more like 27%, actually), then kill someone who hasn't said a word yet. Not someone who claims a strong role who, like adam said, actually has a chance of helping us.

I think we should lynch someone who hasn't talked yet. Someone who doesn't contribute is either a normal villager or an assassin. If you pick someone who hasn't posted yet, I'll say you get a 50% chance of killing an assassin.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
RP time. :)

Jinxy watches the fight for the life of Kuu, the idiot that could help or harm.
"..."
"The last game was never this nuts."

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Sir Minelli wrote:

About deleting posts. I disagree.

I know there are stupid lame posts with no sense. Unluckily or luckily, we already read them all.

Besides this forum IS for posting crap, even if doing so fucks up the entire game.

You can't delete posts. You will be messing with personal thoughts/ideas. Wouldn't be fair.

Don't get me wrong. I'm totally against "LameNotGameRelatedPostsWtfWereYouThinkingBeforePostingThis?"

I suggest a GAME RULE saying that the posts inside the game thread should relate to the GAME only and should focus on the development of the game, rather than focusing on bringing the game down.

This goes for everyone.
We can keep the idiotic posts, but the ones Im pissed about is the Item Creation posts. They are irrelevent and offer 0% help, compared to idiotic posts' 5% help.


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commandhat wrote:

I really wouldn't expect that he'd be using radio as a source for his reason, I mean, he could just ignore it.
What radio?
kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
JInxyjem, I would take the former of the your statement.

JInxyjem wrote:

Jinxy watches the fight for the life of Kuu, the idiot that could help or harm.

And thanks for still calling me Kuu.
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

coming in as a nonplayer im really wondering why the heck people doubt Echo's logic when its perfectly easy to follow by anyone with half a brain regardless of his actual role. As he said, anyone could pick up a book on game theory and find all of that, or turn on their minds for a moment and realize it for themselves.

That is all.
HOW'D YOU GET IN HERE THIS IS A PRIVATE ISLAND GET OUT

*cough*

Echo's logic makes sense but I'm going to go with nardi. I've got my eye on you Echo. *peers suspiciously*
Mashley
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Mashley
I don't understand where this is going. How can you be able to tell the role of someone in day 1? There's no evidence to back up what anyone says. I mean, I'm not exact;y experienced at werewolf, but kuu just has it coming.
Pasonia
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Pasonia
Damned I tried using my mobile to post.

Anyway, I saw most of what has been written here prior to getting home so I'll list out a few points.

1. I just don't like kuwarudo, like I said, no matter if he's an aux or not, I'll be happy to see him go. I'll feel better if I know that one of my votes helped in seeing him off this game.
2. Of course I'm civvy. The odds are 27% to be an assassin, like Echo said.
3. Echo, the way you defended kuwarudo is suspicious, after reading your defence and highly-charged comments. Firstly, without knowing if kuwarudo really is a civilianor not, why are you so eager to come to his defence? It works both ways to defend a person, you know, who's just claiming an important role, but you are SO sure that kuwarudo is an aux without even actually going through the first day. To me, that either means YOU are an assassin as well, or nothing else.

It all boils down to simpler logic than I earlier suggested.

Kuwarudo is human, and if you defend him and earn his trust, he might unwittingly become your ally and "spy" should he be human, and worse if he happens to be an aux.
Kuwarudo is an assassin, and you defend him because you know he is one.

Eight of us are still holding that wait-and-see approach. I guess they're being cautious. I won't, like a certain *someone*, just blindly suspect those people to be assassins simply because they are cautious. That's an even more haphazard approach than my suggestion to get a Cirno out of the game.
Echo
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If he's human, he will die tonight. There's no question about that. Otherwise, Suburu will be able to name two assassins instead of just one. In other words, as long as Suburu's alive, we can't kill kuwarudo or Suburu.

If both of them are still alive by tomorrow, then whether we kill them or not depends on what the coroner tells us about the person we killed on day 2.

This isn't taking sides; it's just logic! Besides, bringing your personal emotions into the game as a "reason" to vote someone off sounds very wrong to me.

edit:
In summary:

Killing them hurts our chances at winning more than not killing them (for now).

Learn maths!
kuwarudo
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Jinxy
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foulcoon wrote:

The accused one usually doesn't get a say.
Kuu, where has all your PW memory gone to?
kuwarudo
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kuwarudo
I forgot, sir.

Ah, I'm losing my mood to go here, maybe I should just ask Ace. *sigh*
Rena-chan
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Seriously, you guys...

Tracerpost.
commandhat
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commandhat

JInxyjem wrote:

<snip>

commandhat wrote:

I really wouldn't expect that he'd be using radio as a source for his reason, I mean, he could just ignore it.
What radio?
my version of "OOC". :P
Sir Minelli
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Sir Minelli

Rolled wrote:

Sir Minelli wrote:

Vote Animask

No info available.

I will re vote against you if my theory is correct.
Is there any reason you don't want to share the theory with everybody else?
Won't say it now. But maybe if you read ALL of his posts, you will find out by yourself.
This is just a theory, therefore an abstract reasoning.

Personally i don't like to state something if i'm not at least 90% sure. And currently i'm 75%

-Sir Minelli munches an apple-
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Sir Minelli
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adam2046 wrote:

I really don't want to read through those posts again...

You don't have to.
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