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alexchan420
Problem report from other users:
Device: LG P970
Android version: 2.2, stock v10b from LG, rooted
Affected version: market release v1.2b, the latest apk http://puu.sh/aEOj
Problem: for all beatmap, upon rapid tapping of taiko, the app is still running but the touch monitor will have no response. Later on the app force close.
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Guy-kun
I can't really do much except for ask them to send the crash report, can you get him to put something in the description? to write "lgp970" in the error report description.

Also, I'm aware that it crashes on the official ICS release (pushed yesterday for the Nexus S), I'll have a fix up soon.
>I have my Keys back (travelled back to my accommodation) so I can publish updates over christmas <:
alexchan420
I guess he tried to send crash reports before. But I guess he or she didn't write anything in the comment.
I will try to ask him to try once more in market release and send the crash report with the comment you mentioned.

Edit: typo in wording =[
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Guy-kun
Thanks, It might have fallen under an old report somewhere, but fi one is submitted with a comment, I'll hunt it down
palion
just wondering, why do older devices need textures with dimensions that are POT? because i've noticed the necessity on PC as well with older graphics cards when using opengl
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Guy-kun
OpenGL 1.0 only supports POT textures, so anything limited to only supporting 1.0 is limited by that.
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Guy-kun
Finally pushed an update with the new stuff and some fixes (including an ICS fix)

If anyone has issues alex, make sure to tell me who puts what name for what issue, I've got a few issues with random names that mean nothing. hurr
alexchan420
Done.

I have asked them if there are any crash reports, please write some words specific and tell me in order to notifying you.

One more thing, I have finished the exam. Maybe it is the time for localization. =]
palion
odd limitation
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Guy-kun
Cool thanks, it'll help.

Hmmm, I'm still half-working on this move over to openGL, plus Christmas soon, so don't want to start anything big, shall we leave it till a week or two?
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Guy-kun

palion wrote:

odd limitation
It was originally to allow for greater optimizations, but was relaxed over time. You could still load POT textures and use NPOT regions if you wanted to support <2.0
alexchan420

Guy-kun wrote:

Cool thanks, it'll help.

Hmmm, I'm still half-working on this move over to openGL, plus Christmas soon, so don't want to start anything big, shall we leave it till a week or two?
OK, it's fine.

btw, I could just finish it in simple translation first.
But for implementing time, it's up to you.
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Guy-kun
Oh sure, That'd be good too.
I'm not sure what I'll do about text on images yet, but anything else would be nice to have translated, so menus mostly to be honest.
I'll get you any the text that is used for when you have no maps and the processing dialog if you remind me some time later <:
alexchan420
se arc, fc on first run after update

Just get an error that fc, please check the crash report with the above comment

Edit: To get the spacing back, mobile typing sometimes it missed the space.
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Guy-kun
Thanks, I've got the report and will take a look when I get the chance.

Would you possibly be able to find some testers for the new openGL version? It's not quite complete and will be buggy (warn them), but I need to get an idea of performance across a variety of devices, tell them it is a -lot- more responsive.
alexchan420
Uhh... I will try, but there may not have responsive users.
For them, I think they care for whether they can play well. Most of them do not really like buggy version.
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Guy-kun
It's okay ;_;
Forevernotesters.
alexchan420
I think you may try to find some through your twitter.
If they are willing to report bugs and contact you, I think they may be willing to help too.
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Guy-kun
Very few actually bother to report bugs, and those that do don't really know english, plus, my twitter only got two follows :3c
Don't worry about it, It may take longer but I'll get it done myself
alexchan420
Btw, you need sleep.
I bet it is 0330 in UK. @.@
alexchan420
One more thing, the guys downloaded the app and give 1 star because they can't download maps are really blind.
Now even osu!droid becomes lack of DDL as the server provider can't handle the bandwidth.
It seems hard that there will be someone could provide such bandwidth and server now.
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Guy-kun
Fate/Zero won't watch itself you know!
Also, I'm getting some nice music to use to ship with the game to calm all these angry children that have no maps, time to find a mapper or two

[edit]I'm sure I can do it
alexchan420

Guy-kun wrote:

Fate/Zero won't watch itself you know!
Also, I'm getting some nice music to use to ship with the game to calm all these angry children that have no maps, time to find a mapper or two

[edit]I'm sure I can do it
I have no idea.
As the map installed will have no way to delete it in the app, they will need a file manager app/use the computer to handle the pre-installed map.
It's hard to select some songs to be in favour of all users, as I think no songs can suit for all users.

But if it will be chose, then try to search for some songs that is included in the original Taiko no Tatsujin.
I think it will be good, if the users tried to played the original Taiko no Tatsujin Japanese version before.
For the mapper, maybe you need to ask few of the mappers that made some songs originally included in the Taiko no Tatsujin.

One more thing, I find that the map handled by T-Aiko! will be quite different from the osu! taiko mode.
Many maps are just interpreted as sliders, even I know the rick and roll is not available in processing of T-Aiko.
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Guy-kun
I can't use any copyrighted music such as original songs from Taiko no Tatsujin, or from anywhere else, and while I might not be able to please everyone, it's much better to have the possibility of pleasing them (I'll put in an in-game delete option too of course)
Remember, I'm not being a Taiko clone, even my theme/style is very different and has the possibility of not being to some peoples' likings, but that's just life.

And I know, I don't convert sliders into beats yet, but I literally -just- (today) received code courtesy of peppy to let me make maps pretty identical to osu! look forward to it sometime in the future <:
MMzz

Guy-kun wrote:

Fate/Zero won't watch itself you know!
Also, I'm getting some nice music to use to ship with the game to calm all these angry children that have no maps, time to find a mapper or two

[edit]I'm sure I can do it
I'm a pretty good mapper /cocky you could ask the community.
My style is old style namco, not the new crappy way they have been making songs, like AC 12+
alexchan420
In that forum, another user replied he/she would like to test the new version.
The device should be Galaxy Note.
And I will join the test too. SE Arc. =]
audiserverhaseo
I LOVE the Interface, i mean, really smooth on 600mhz single core, osu!droid should have the same Interface XD

sorry for my bad english :(
Yuzeyun

MMzz wrote:

I'm a pretty good mapper /cocky you could ask the community.
My style is old style namco, not the new crappy way they have been making songs, like AC 12+
MITTEN FOR NEW MAPPER IN NAMCO /runs

That's not a bad idea :V

Well don't use my own songs. Else you'll be reported :>
jk
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Guy-kun
Well, a few ass-pained days later with no success in optimizing openGL drawing and after a loss of days' worth of work due to (accidentally... kinda...) reverting my SVN changes, I give up! wooo!

I've always been tsundere for canvas drawing really, and I'm sure I can optimize it even further for those with really rubbish phones.
Plus it means we can get new features instead of re-doing what's already done for another few weeks.


On another note, I've got two mappers to work on two songs I've got hold of so far, so next version should calm some people.
Alex, I'm thinking of a message/dialog box with proper instructions how to get songs for the next version, I'll do a writeup for it and I hope you'd translate it for me into whatever you can <:


@audiserverhaseo thankyou <': <3
Musty
I don't know why.. but i can't see it in the app market .__.
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Guy-kun
You need to be on android 2.2 or above, check your version,/try updating?
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Guy-kun
Cool new stuff done today,
-Tentative tablet support (things are scaled properly horizontally), so should work on larger devices properly. Could do with someone testing this on a tablet, that guy with the galaxy note might be useful.

-Fading in for notes that first appear onscreen (rather than at the right edge)

</mypersonalblog>
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

Cool new stuff done today,
-Tentative tablet support (things are scaled properly horizontally), so should work on larger devices properly. Could do with someone testing this on a tablet, that guy with the galaxy note might be useful.

-Fading in for notes that first appear onscreen (rather than at the right edge)

</mypersonalblog>
Actually I'll do this, sonce I'll get my tablet in 2 days lolol
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Guy-kun
Oh okay, cool, tell me when you get it since I doubt I'll push out the update within 2 days
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

Oh okay, cool, tell me when you get it since I doubt I'll push out the update within 2 days
Xmas, it's that simple :D

(I'll try one muzukashii with it and see :V)
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Guy-kun
Don't force yourself.
alexchan420
Translations for Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese are done.
I just checked the scenes in the app as many as possible to have the translation.
There should be some others not being translated, please let me know if there is any.
For the finished translation, do you want me send it to you now, or just leave it till you want to deal with the translation problem.

Furthermore, I see recently there are few comments that they still don't know how to get the beatmaps.
The instructions for getting beatmaps is much required for the translation. lol
I'll just wait for you to finish your part of instructions.
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Guy-kun
thanks very much <:
Keep the translation for now, I'll write up instructions for getting maps tomorrow and the text for when no maps are shown (I've changed it slightly). Then after that's done I'll get it all from you and sort it out <:
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Guy-kun
In-app English map transfer instructions (along with pictures) are done, and Slider> beat conversion is almost complete (just need to finish off sounds for the converted notes)
Time for sleep, zzz.

(I should really make a blog/site for this, just soo laaaaaaazyyyyy)
alexchan420
Actually the facebook page of the app is already done(you have already set it up), as long as you keep update it.
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Guy-kun
Eeeeeeeeh, I don't really like facebook....
Yuzeyun
I might give a try for the French translation, if you don't mind. Tomorrow I'll get my tablet so yeah. :V
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Guy-kun
Sure, but in a while, there's not a huge french player-base really,
Yuzeyun
Don't worry this will grow faster as people will be told about this.
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Guy-kun
I hope so too <: Remind me a bit later and I'll send over the string to translate
Touche_old


NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPERIA X8 ;_____;
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Guy-kun
Upgrade to Android 2.2 or above~
Yuzeyun
Tried with my tablet and looks like it doesn't want to run any song :<
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Guy-kun
Give me the details another time, and have a Merry Christmas <:
alexchan420

Touche wrote:



NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPERIA X8 ;_____;
SE Xperia X8 stops at Android 2.1.
If you would like to play this app, maybe you need to learn about flashing the custom rom.

But I bet using another phone will be a more reliable way. Flashing will void the warranty.
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Guy-kun
I could likely lower the android os requirement down to 2.1/1.6 with a bit of work, but most devices capped at them versions wont be able to run the game very well, you'd be disappointed.
It'll probably be best not to, to reduce bad reviews from them low end devices, sorry!
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

Give me the details another time, and have a Merry Christmas <:
It finally works, but I have some trouble with the offset and fast notes >> (around +500)
Cristian

_Gezo_ wrote:

It finally works, but I have some trouble with the offset and fast notes >> (around +500)
True, and also the skin is little move it, can you fixed please?
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Guy-kun

_Gezo_ wrote:

Guy-kun wrote:

Give me the details another time, and have a Merry Christmas <:
It finally works, but I have some trouble with the offset and fast notes >> (around +500)
That's odd, what tablet is it? I hear osu!droid has offset issues on tablets too. Are you definitely using the 'native player'?

True, and also the skin is little move it, can you fixed please?
Wat?
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

That's odd, what tablet is it? I hear osu!droid has offset issues on tablets too. Are you definitely using the 'native player'
It REALLY depends of the song.

Also it' a a Thomson MoFing (forghtwhatafter).
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Guy-kun
I'm baaaack! And deving again
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

True, and also the skin is little move it, can you fixed please?
Wat?
The result screen seems off.

The numbers are off by a few pixels. I can't provide any screenshot atm >.>
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Guy-kun
Oh, yeah, i can see why the numbers would be off.
ON THE TODO LIST IT GOES!

(I'm seriously pondering an online score server)
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Guy-kun
I've also set up an IRC channel if needed for further developments and unimportant crap, feel free to come and idle.
#t-aiko @ irc.rizon.net
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Guy-kun
Working on online scoring/ranking if anyone's still interested <:
alexchan420
There are some users claiming their Motorola Atrix and also Atrix 2 having a problem to the app.
They claims that once they try to open the app then it is just forced close itself.

I have tried to ask them to send crash reports if possible, but till the moment no one said they could or send reports with any specific comments words.
Copter-kun

Guy-kun wrote:

Working on online scoring/ranking if anyone's still interested <:
Well this nice
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Guy-kun
As always, yeah, I can't do much without an error report, there's no known bugs anymore.

Coming sometime soon:
alexchan420

Copter-kun wrote:

Guy-kun wrote:

Working on online scoring/ranking if anyone's still interested <:
Well this nice
At least the local ranking is going to be done then it's fine.
alexchan420
Further reports:
Regarding the atrix 2's auto app closing on start up problem, the user replies that no crash report is available to be sent, then no crash reports are available.
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Guy-kun
Tell him to uninstall and use the market version then, he must be on some older intermediate version I released as an apk (non-market apps cant send error reports)

Also, I havent really done local scoring yet...
Zetta
bit late to the party but congrats on the release. :P
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Guy-kun
Thanks bruski!
Yuzeyun
Small glitch : If I quit a map, select another and quickly launch another map, the third map will be played with the BG of the second.

Example : I want to play Shimelissa2218 but I chose Hardcore of the north. I quit HoTN.
Then I want to select S2218 but accidentally select BADGER.
Seeing Shimelissa, I click on it and select the diff [~Heuss'Taiko~]. Instead of having a blond-haired girl, I have badgers in the background.
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Guy-kun
Ah yeah, I know this, it's not really thaaaay big a deal though is it? I'll put it on my list.

On another note, could you test a new version for me possibly Gezo? I made some tablet fixes but can't really test them
Yuzeyun

Guy-kun wrote:

On another note, could you test a new version for me possibly Gezo? I made some tablet fixes but can't really test them
Can't DL it from the market, silly tablet doesn't let me access it orz

Well I'll see for it latah since I'll have to upload 12GB of data, computer failure. Also, on osu! droid it's perfectly synced with 70ms but here, when it starts perfectly synced, I have a small offset at the end orz
lepidopodus
Bad news: I no longer have Android device. Gave it to my sister, so I might ask her, lol.

Still accepting Taiko-related or Korean-related support requests, but who cares, lol.
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Guy-kun

lepidopodus wrote:

Bad news: I no longer have Android device. Gave it to my sister, so I might ask her, lol.

Still accepting Taiko-related or Korean-related support requests, but who cares, lol.
That's a shame, but are you?
I might throw some more at you when the time comes if you're up for it <:

@Gezo
I can give you an apk if you like when you have the time?
also, T-Aiko! != osu!droid
Yuzeyun
@Gezo
I can give you an apk if you like when you have the time?
also, T-Aiko! != osu!droid
I always have time.
OnosakiHito
Oh well, thought to say that I will finish everything pretty soon. A few mapper looked trough the diff's and gaved suggestions, too.
Inner Oni is on the way with the full lenght.

Here you can find the allready avaible version: http://puu.sh/c2Ii
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Guy-kun
@Gezo, awesome, I'll send you over a test version sometime soon

Thanks very much OnosakiHito <:Just waiting on a reply from MMzz now...
I'll take a look at the map

Here's a delicious update as to what's going on:
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Guy-kun
OnosakiHito, it's good, very good <:
I don't have osu installed on this laptop so I'm not sure, and I don't think it's a T-Aiko! bug, but does the map have a preview time set? I remember a previous version you made had it set, could you re-set it again if it needs it, thanks <:

And make sure oni and inner oni are harder! I've tested it on my phone and it's great, just need to make sure there's more challenge on the harder difficulties
OnosakiHito
PreviewTime: -1
So maybe it's because of T-aiko? What happened?

Sure. Inner will be more for experienced people. If this should be also still a bit too easy, Ura can be one the way, too. lol
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Guy-kun
Oh, in a preview version you had the preview further into the song, I thought it was better that way.
It's fine in T-Aiko!, just confused me that the preview started at the beginning.

Awesome, if it turns out too easy we have a backup plan then <:
OnosakiHito

Guy-kun wrote:

Awesome, if it turns out too easy we have a backup plan then <:
Thank's to namco. haha
- 'kay, I will set a preview time then.
OzzyOzrock
Back-up is me making an OUTER TENSHI
Yuzeyun

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Back-up is me making an OUTER TENSHI
AND ME IS MAKING A MIDDLER SEKAI.

Well I'll get to school soon (tomorrow) so I'll have less free time >.>
alexchan420
Further report regarding the atrix 2 force close problem,
the user replies that he uses the market release, when he press play on the main menu, it direct exits the app without any option to send the crash report.
alexchan420
Got another report from an Motorola Razr user that it also got the same problem with the atrix 2.
It seems that Motorola Atrix, Atrix 2 and also Razr got an unknown problem with T-Aiko!.
palion

_Gezo_ wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Back-up is me making an OUTER TENSHI
AND ME IS MAKING A MIDDLER SEKAI.
i see what you guys did there :p
NightPk
Im playing taiko on Eee Pad Transformer with Honeycomb 3.2.
When i play it on Stretch to fill screen mode(or actual tablet mode), everything works pretty good(well main screen is too small compare to screen size and its on the right side instead of center..lol) but when i actually play it, taiko notes show up little bit below the note line so i usually play as zoom to fill mode screen setting(or simply, zooming the phone screen view). if picture is needed, i can post it maybe one or two days later.

however, i dont see much of offset issues when i use it as 70 with native players and everything is smooth,which is great!

i'm not sure if i can be a helper but if you need a tester with 10.1 inch Tablets(with Tegra 2/HoneyComb), just ask since i'm enjoying this game soo much!

Thank you!
alexchan420
New market release testing:

Ranking system, registration fine.

Error:
Ai Otsuka - Momo no Hanabira got map parsing error again.
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Guy-kun
Alex, the crash on pressing play for them two devices you described is something I've looked into.
It seems to be happening on motorola devices, I debugged it as best I could with someone on a Droid Bionic.

It's actually motorola firmware fucking up believe it or not. It's not a normal exception, but a SegFault somewhere in a core android library (libska.so) Something like this can't be caused by an app intentionally and is stupidly hard to work around since no error is thrown at which point it occurs, and the app simply dies reporting SIGEGV.
(Android is supposed to catch -all- application errors and allow you to send an error report to the developer)

I'm going to have to just leave it for now as it is just simply so hard to pinpoint without having a motorola device myself and a load of time to play with it, so unfortunaly phones on Motorola firmware may not work for now...
(If anyone doesn't believe me and thinks I'm making excuses, I can provide debug logs showing the fault occuring <:)

The workaround we did find, was installing a non-motorla ROM onto the same device. The guy I was with flashed his phone with ICS4Bionic, and it worked absolutely fine, so tell anyone that flashing their phone with a (>note< google stock, not just stock motorola) ROM is the only workaround (not that anyone would be this bothered about playing T-Aiko!....)

as for momo no hanabira, I sure like fucking that map up don't I? <:
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Guy-kun
Two posts to make this less of a wall of text

@NightPk
Are you using the latest version that I pushed yesterday? (1.4 or 1.4b) I thought I'd fixed things being out of position on tablets. Make sure it's up to date and if it still looks off, yeah a picture would be nice.

As for testing, that'd be really useful actually. You don't have to do much, but tell me if there are any issues and if I could contact you to ask you to test early versions (in case I make tablet changes) that'd be great too.
If you were to hang around on IRC, that'd be even more perfect <:
OnosakiHito
Taiko Inner Oni for now finished. I'm sure I will change some patterns since some may not fit this well, but having the first views/opinions is good. I used Taiko this time as own instrument in this game.
Also about the lenght: Still not mapped the whole 4min. Maybe concidering this one more time?

Download: http://puu.sh/cwnV
alexchan420
Report:

Regarding the motorola devices problem, I tried to refer you message to them.
But in my view, it seems the problem may be from the new launcher, as I knew atrix 2 and razr using the new launcher UI apart from MotoBlur, and atrix 1 got a new firmware update to 2.3.5 not a long time ago.

I got another user telling me that using HTC Sensation ICS and got a crash report with FC problem. But he/she didn't mention about whether writing a specific comment or not.

Another user mentions that if using the new market release with online ranking system.
If after logging in then press play will got app close like motorola devices, if log out and then press play will be OK to play. But I am not sure what device he use.
Kim Jin Seok
I can't see all user's ranking?
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Guy-kun
I'll make a site for it, don't worry. Katawa Shoujo means less free time for a while.
I'll reply to other stuff laaaaater... zzz
NightPk
Im using 1.4b on this screenshots

hit point isnt located at the right position(i just noticed it when i actually tried to play)
and where the yellow line begins(on the gameplay pic) is about where i actually have to hit the notes
(i had to play not by looking at it, but by listening to song)

and anything that i was talking about, is well described on the screen shots.

FPS on the game menu is slow(about 15~25 approx?)
but in actual game play, i don't see any frame issues so it shouldn't be too problematic for actual game play.







i will test this game on my friend's Iconia Tab A100, an 7 inch screened Android tablet w/ Honeycomb 3.2
since mine(Eee Pad Transformer) has resolution of 1280x800 while his Iconia tab has resolution of 1024x600 because i felt like tablet mode for this game was made for 7" tablets not 10.1", which could make sense for the off-position issues of notes.




ps. do you think it would be possible for you to add side-note instructions on how to put songs, inside the app? i saw a lots of people having hard time putting songs which isn't problematic for us-kind, but is to first-timers.
NightPk
and after finishing things up, do you think you can add like.. profile editing sections...? lol..
i just noticed that only thing that you can do, with your account, currently is to....
log out. lol

WHAT IF I WANNA CHANGE PICTURES?!!?!!? XD(duh just make a new account....(boom! headshot!))
asowlzz
i have a problem of processing the songs.
i have total 402 songs and when t-aiko processed about 190 songs then it has to force close.
i tried a folder with 190 songs only and everything was fine.
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Guy-kun
Still gotta reply to everyone properly :l Being lazy...

Here's a basic ranking: http://107.22.145.40/
Yuzeyun
@^ I'm still waiting for the apk :U

Send it by forum PM :U²
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Guy-kun
@alex It may be the firmware update, yeah, I'm not sure though. It's definitely motorola firmware related though.
Any crashes like the login one you mentioned should be fixed in 1.4b, the one you describe about crashing after login is fixed

@kimjin, the URL I posted is a temporary rankings table for now

@night thanks, that's helpful to see.
I think I can make the song select screen lag less, I'll do that in the future, and I thought I'd fixed the position issues, but I guess not. When I make any changes, I'll make sure to get you to test them.
As for profile editing, sorry, but it's ont he todo list of-course. Along with the site online

I don't have much time for the next week/two but after that I'll likely get back to a lot of updates.

@asowlzz Sorry, I should really limit the amount of songs that can be loaded, but it seems to vary a lot related to phone memory/max heap size. Just load less maps for now, I'll likely do something about it.

@gezo Why are you waiting again?
Yuzeyun
@^ I don't see the apk orz (since my tablet fails at loading the market lololol)

I have the 1.2c >_>
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