Man, I liked Just Cause 2 where you could just zip line onto a car to jack it. Unfortunately, you almost never want to because driving in that game was horrible. Is the driving decent in Saints Row? Cause that was one of the only reasons I liked GTA IV. Some people complained about the driving in that game, but I thought it was good (the driving, not the game).
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Alright, there has to be a way one of you jerks can get me Saints Row 2 through this. I know they just limited ps3 gamesharing to 2 activations, but that still leaves me with a copy! Someone throw me a bone.
Alright, there has to be a way one of you jerks can get me Saints Row 2 through this. I know they just limited ps3 gamesharing to 2 activations, but that still leaves me with a copy! Someone throw me a bone.
Saints Row 2 costs like 10-15 dollars, so it's a good way to whet your appetite if you're on the fence and don't want to fork over 50 bucks.
The driving mechanics in Saints Row is...simplified. In GTA4 cars didn't have godly traction and powersliding and control and all that, but they do in the Saints Row games. The car mechanics feel a lot more like the PS2 GTAs, in that you can basically just hold down the gas all the time, and powerslide recklessly around corners and all that. Helicopters are also really easy to fly.
The driving mechanics in Saints Row is...simplified. In GTA4 cars didn't have godly traction and powersliding and control and all that, but they do in the Saints Row games. The car mechanics feel a lot more like the PS2 GTAs, in that you can basically just hold down the gas all the time, and powerslide recklessly around corners and all that. Helicopters are also really easy to fly.
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My level is in the early 20s, and it looks like endgame you can start becoming invincible, at least to certain attacks. I really hope I can gain immunity to:
falling
vehicle hits
explosions
that would make for some even more fun dicking around
Skydiving without a parachute!
falling
vehicle hits
explosions
that would make for some even more fun dicking around
Skydiving without a parachute!
every last inch of me's covered in improvements
The Baconing's on sale for 7.50
yoink
yoink
ampzz
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Holy shit, guys. I think some of you may know that I fucking love the Legend of Zelda series. Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Minish Cap, Seasons, Ages, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks. I may have even put that in order from most to least favorite on accident. Anyway, I just need to preface with that so it doesn't sound like I'm trolling when I say I fucking hate Skyward Sword with a pink and purple passion and I hope it burns in hell. I really almost beat it, too. I'm at the part where I need to talk to Levias or whatever, so I gave it a fair chance.
I finished the first two dungeons of Skyward Sword and apart from the awful writing I've been really enjoying it
I need to start it D:
I find what you say to be really funny Seibei, not because I disagree with it, but because it's against what I've heard about the game from other people. A lot of people have told me that it's the reason to buy a wii again if you sold yours. But regardless, I can definitely see where you're coming from.
I've only gotten to right before the second dungeon but I find it pretty good. One thing that I do like is that a lot of enemies will take some work to actually kill, because you have to line up you sword slices. However I would have to say that the motion controls can be a bit sketchy at times and swing the opposite way you intended, but otherwise to me it feels pretty good. Although, I may change my opinion in the future as I got farther in the game as when I played Twilight Princess, I got to a certain point and just lost the drive to play.
I've only gotten to right before the second dungeon but I find it pretty good. One thing that I do like is that a lot of enemies will take some work to actually kill, because you have to line up you sword slices. However I would have to say that the motion controls can be a bit sketchy at times and swing the opposite way you intended, but otherwise to me it feels pretty good. Although, I may change my opinion in the future as I got farther in the game as when I played Twilight Princess, I got to a certain point and just lost the drive to play.
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You guys have to get much further into the game before you can really see why I started hating the game though. The game is fine for the first 3 dungeons or so. But afterwards, they make you backtrack through the first three areas again, which feels like cheating. There's no snow, water, or shadow dungeon. The more you play the game, the more you realize that they care less about using different items to defeat enemies, and care more about their WiiMotion Plus gimmicks. They would be fine if they actually functioned properly more often. Not to mention the bosses don't really feel like Zelda bosses. You guys have got to get to the part where you can swim. I dare you to tell me that controlling Link as he swims is fun. The thing that set me over the edge with that game was when I tried to redo Rickety Coaster to get a Heart Piece, but I kept having to retry because the game couldn't tell if I was leaning left or right.
My two main gripes about the controls are
1, there's no sensitivity slider. I really like to exaggerate my movements when I play, and some games let you configure how much you have to move the controller for it to read the command. The nunchuck is particularly sensitive to that.
2, as mentioned earlier, the tracking IS a little wonky. The wii remote doesn't really handle being pointed away from the TV all that well. Link holds the sword the way you hold the wii remote, and I generally keep the sword behind me and pointed toward the ground when I'm running around but it often doesn't work that way in-game.
It's pretty good for what it is though, and at least decent enough that you can make masturbatory gestures with your sword in front of enemies when you're feeling cocky
1, there's no sensitivity slider. I really like to exaggerate my movements when I play, and some games let you configure how much you have to move the controller for it to read the command. The nunchuck is particularly sensitive to that.
2, as mentioned earlier, the tracking IS a little wonky. The wii remote doesn't really handle being pointed away from the TV all that well. Link holds the sword the way you hold the wii remote, and I generally keep the sword behind me and pointed toward the ground when I'm running around but it often doesn't work that way in-game.
It's pretty good for what it is though, and at least decent enough that you can make masturbatory gestures with your sword in front of enemies when you're feeling cocky
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Yeah, I wish I could amp the sensitivity up a bit for aiming/cursor-based stuff. The sword works well enough, but there have been a few instances where the sword, like, reset positions or something, so everything was off while I was trying to fight. The thing I hate most about the fighting though is when you've got to do that whole song and dance where you have to point your sword in one way, then quickly slice from the opposite direction. So if you start from the right and you need to go left-to-right, how do you quickly move your sword back to the left so you can do that without just swiping your sword to the left and fucking everything up?
I should say that I do enjoy the dungeons themselves though. And upgrading items is cool, but I think it's lame that bags/quivers/satchels take up an adventure slot. Actually, the entire adventure slot system sucks. The item wheel is ok, but it'd be nice if it paused when it was open.
I should say that I do enjoy the dungeons themselves though. And upgrading items is cool, but I think it's lame that bags/quivers/satchels take up an adventure slot. Actually, the entire adventure slot system sucks. The item wheel is ok, but it'd be nice if it paused when it was open.
Oh god I'm at Valhalla in The Baconing
it's so racist and so damn hilarious
it's so racist and so damn hilarious
OH GOD IT'S BILL COSBY THE SPIDER
I played the Baconing on my PC with my cousin two dualshock 3s connected via bluetooth emulating 360 controllers. Pretty good game. You're near the end, awp.
yeah I cleared the game twice (second time I was trying to shortcut the Insane trophy)
good ending, arguably better was my second time hitting the credits screen
"How many people work at Hothead games?
...About half of them!"
good ending, arguably better was my second time hitting the credits screen
"How many people work at Hothead games?
...About half of them!"
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Oh shit, it looks like I'll be getting Saints Row 3 soon. I wasn't thinking about getting it at first, but I saw 40 uninterrupted minutes of gameplay and it looks more fun than I thought. The fact that Saints Row 2 still comes with that makes it even better.
SR3 is dangerously addicting
I only play it when I have like a four hour window where I'm not required to do shit
I only play it when I have like a four hour window where I'm not required to do shit
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Ok, I bought a mess of games just now. Saints Row 3, Rage, Deus Ex, and Tales of Vesperia. Things are gonna get busy.
I'm about to join the club guys.
Gonna start with Eternal Sonata...once I see my PS3.
Gonna start with Eternal Sonata...once I see my PS3.
You should start with Resonance of Fate instead.
For no reason other than it owns.
For no reason other than it owns.
I would...
...but I think my brother would cry.
...but I think my brother would cry.
W...what?
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Ivalset speaks the truth. I'm thinking about going through that game again and re-earning the Plat.
I still need to finish my run on Advanced.
I will eventually unlock the 10th difficulty, before I die.
I will eventually unlock the 10th difficulty, before I die.
wtfIvalset wrote:
10th difficulty
SNES games used to have like 13, 17 difficultiesPokebis wrote:
wtfIvalset wrote:
10th difficulty
Well, it seems that I started off with Resonance of Fate because we don't have a second PS3 controller.
Derp.
It's very nice though, I enjoyed it once I knew what the Tri-Action actually does.
Derp.
It's very nice though, I enjoyed it once I knew what the Tri-Action actually does.
The game's tutorial is a little...obtuse. I'm pretty sure me or selphie can explain the finer intricacies if necessary, though.
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That game seems so complicated at first, but then after you figure out the battle system, it feels really simple. And yet it's just so damn fun to play.
Also, Saints Row, motherfuckers. You'll never guess what my favorite color is.
Also, Saints Row, motherfuckers. You'll never guess what my favorite color is.
Red?
I thought it was blue, man.
Just look at the pants.
Just look at the pants.
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Jesus Christ, guys. It's yellow.
Yellow is my favorite color too!
And Ivalset's
And Ivalset's
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I think I'm going overboard with the green though. If possible, I change every vehicle I have to green. My new outfit does have some light blue on it though. Some...
What's your PSN, Lilac? =D
Oh yeah, I got my first platinum today. In White Knight Chronicles II. On a spare account because na account wouldn't work on eu version of the game.
I think my save file has 1510 hours logged on it.
I think my save file has 1510 hours logged on it.
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Well that would explain why I never see you online. Also, that's fucking insane.
Yes, that's part of it. If you really wanted to, you could add Teslavi as well to your friendlist, but I'm sure you're already full since you're so superpopular.
I'm too lazy to add people, so you can add me. Or add it to the first post, ADD ME GUYS. I even formatted it the same to be added on the first post.
Lilac - Volonei
Lilac - Volonei
Ugh, why am I playing mafiamaster in AH3 when I haven't even played AH3 in like 4 months...
You promised!
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You know, awp, when you said that you can eventually make it so that you don't take any damage from certain things in Saints Row 3, I didn't think you meant that you would literally become invulnerable to those things. That's awesome.
Chump change I say, chump change!
AH3 is one of those games you should just grab from PSN, as a digital download.
Well, assuming your internet can handle such a thing!
Well, assuming your internet can handle such a thing!
that's cheap for a special edition
Well, download speed is apparently 7.8Mbps which is... Ehh, 850KB/s. I'm not that impatient to wait, however I might as well just get the extra stuff and...I dunno, overprice it on eBay?Ivalset wrote:
Well, assuming your internet can handle such a thing!
Besides, something tells me I would suck hard at this game. I don't even know why I bought MvC3.
I consider myself to be not completely awful at fighting games, but mvc3 makes me feel like an infant.
I'm bad at every fighting game except the two that I play which are Smash Bros and this one DBZ game called Raging Blast
the latter I've never played against another person but at least I've got all the buttons figured out
the latter I've never played against another person but at least I've got all the buttons figured out
I'll see if I can get better at MvC3 though...
...My brother still owns me at it.
...My brother still owns me at it.
MvC3 was alright for about an hour. I can't tolerate that game for some reason. Not bad at it, just don't like it.
Oh right, "X-factor". Derp
Oh right, "X-factor". Derp
But MvC3 was kind of noobed out...
Was Ival good at Melty Blood? Can't quite remember.
Was Ival good at Melty Blood? Can't quite remember.
Regardless I'm going to go classical for the next game and go for the Sly Cooper Trilogy.
Loved it when I played it on my uncle's PS2. Want it on my PS3.
Loved it when I played it on my uncle's PS2. Want it on my PS3.
Not really, but certainly better than you.Pokebis wrote:
But MvC3 was kind of noobed out...
Was Ival good at Melty Blood? Can't quite remember.
Is that a challenge?Ivalset wrote:
but certainly better than you.
I'm filling in for Ival, let's go.Pokebis wrote:
Is that a challenge?
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Man, Saints Row keeps getting better. I thought I was some unstoppable shit once I got a fully upgraded Bulldog with a turret. Then I thought I was definitely unstoppable once I got a tank in my garage. But now I am the tank. Invincible + infinite rocket launcher. Brutes are a joke now. And tanks.
Dual Pistols + Explosive rounds
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Well, I 100%'d Saints Row 3, so I guess it's time for Saints Row 2. By the way, it's really annoying how they didn't let you choose black as a clothing color. That makes no sense.
Saint's Row 2 is probably much harder to get 100% in. I remember the highest-difficulty diversions being really, really difficult (for some diversions). I wasn't able to clear all the drug trafficking ones iirc - particularly because you were confined to a single vehicle and once that thing was on fire, Game Over Man
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So I played the very beginning of Saints Row 2, but I don't think I can keep playing that after beating Saints Row 3. Like, it's such a major step down that I just can't deal with it. The fact that I can't just jump straight into cars sucks so bad. And the control scheme is the stupidest thing I've seen. I also miss my character. Some of that wouldn't be such a problem if I wasn't already so entranced with SR3 though.
At least we now know that Saints Row 3 is one of those games which had a better sequel.
Saints Row 2 has a quick-car mode as well.Seibei4211 wrote:
So I played the very beginning of Saints Row 2, but I don't think I can keep playing that after beating Saints Row 3. Like, it's such a major step down that I just can't deal with it. The fact that I can't just jump straight into cars sucks so bad. And the control scheme is the stupidest thing I've seen. I also miss my character. Some of that wouldn't be such a problem if I wasn't already so entranced with SR3 though.
Jump on the hood of the car and press triangle.
SR3 is better than SR2 gameplay-wise, but SR2 had a better character creator
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You have to jump on the car? That's weird. I liked being able to sprint and jump into the car from a block away.
I will not argue the fact that the character customization was better. But it didn't have some of the options that I used in the third one, so I couldn't even get close to having the same character as the third one. Also, the clothing options were way, way, way better. You had styles, more clothing options, and you could pick black and white for once.
I will not argue the fact that the character customization was better. But it didn't have some of the options that I used in the third one, so I couldn't even get close to having the same character as the third one. Also, the clothing options were way, way, way better. You had styles, more clothing options, and you could pick black and white for once.
yeah, it's a bug. I don't know if they've fixed it since I last played it though. You go from on top of the car to instantly inside it.Seibei4211 wrote:
You have to jump on the car? That's weird.
Saints Row 2 allowed me to make Waluigi, so I can never argue with those results.
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Oh, it's a bug. I thought that was a gameplay feature or something. That would be weird. Anyway, I hate how they switched square and X around in areas like reloading/jumping and handbraking. And R3 to zoom sucks in any game. And this may only be a temporary problem, but it was pissing me off in the beginning. A lot of the times when an enemy would melee me, I'd fall down, get up, then immediately get hit again before I can counter or run away and have to get back up again. So stupid.
I saw some SR3 gameplay videos that demonstrated how wrong I'm playing that game. I like base jumping, but I've never grappled a pedestrian and taken them base jumping with me. There's a cheat code that makes the entire city of Steelport intoxicated and I had no idea.
ampzz
I've never actually had a problem with that instant 'warp' inside a car when you stand on it as it was always a massive time saver when you're in the middle of running for your bloody life. XD
It's a lot nicer than how clunky and retarded trying to steal cars in GTAIV was at least.
Random splice of fun and humour made it enjoyable as heck.
Don't tell me none of you launched yourself from aircraft to land on a car and instantly start driving as if nothing ever happened whilst pissing yourself laughing?
It's a lot nicer than how clunky and retarded trying to steal cars in GTAIV was at least.
Random splice of fun and humour made it enjoyable as heck.
Don't tell me none of you launched yourself from aircraft to land on a car and instantly start driving as if nothing ever happened whilst pissing yourself laughing?
Is there any game on the PS3 that's good with online co-op?
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Full campaign or just co-op mode? PS3 exclusive or anything on PS3? Saints Row 3 has full co-op. Haven't done it, but I don't see why it wouldn't be fun. Army of Two 2 and Resident Evil 5 have fun co-op. Dead Island, Borderlands.
I just finished the Matt Miller (Deckers) quest chain in SR3
Fuck yeah, Combat. I have two copies of that game for Atari 2600
Fuck yeah, Combat. I have two copies of that game for Atari 2600
(will add list of games later)
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Oh yeah, that Deckers part was awesome. I like how you get that tank afterwards, and the buster cannon.
If we can match games I'm down for anything.
Just say you're from Osu! so I know what's up.
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Ok, I tried playing some Deus Ex today. I didn't get very far though. I kept getting bored and taking breaks and at one point I even took a nap because of how bored I was. That game makes it seem like you have a choice between using stealth or going in guns a-blazing. But you don't. Because you get a ridiculous amount of XP for doing stealth and you get piddly shit for just shooting them. And when you start an alarm, the game makes you feel like you fucked up. If they want this game to be so stealth-based though, they could've at least made the stealth fun.
I heard they don't because boss fightsSeibei4211 wrote:
If they want this game to be so stealth-based though,
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That's part of the reason why the game's so annoying though. They really, really, really want you to use stealth, but then they have boss fights which basically prohibit that, so it makes no sense.
Edit: Oh, another reason I know they want you to use stealth is that your health regeneration is pathetically slow and you can barely take any damage even on Easy. Also, the controls are permanently configured for a stealth game as opposed to a shooting game (L1 is cover and R3 is zoom).
Edit: Oh, another reason I know they want you to use stealth is that your health regeneration is pathetically slow and you can barely take any damage even on Easy. Also, the controls are permanently configured for a stealth game as opposed to a shooting game (L1 is cover and R3 is zoom).
Cover-based shooters and regenerating health can take a boot to the ass anyway
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So I think my problem with Saints Row 2 initially was the fact that I tried to jump into that right after beating SR3. But I'm revisiting that game now. That jumping on cars trick is bloody awesome. It's kind of weird how you have to do the activities to get the bonuses in this.
'O Hai I'm late. Sorry ;w;
PSN ID: Salmonefs
Games:
Dark Souls
Mass Effect 2
Heavy Rain (my favorite)
FIFA 10
GRID
Gran Turismo 5
Call of Duty Black Ops
Little Big Planet
Uncharted Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2
Portal 2
Modnation Racers
God of War: Collection
God of War 3
Street Fighter IV
Resistance: Fall of Man (very old but classic)
DC Universe Online
Almost on the limit of friends I can add but will appreciate requests~
PSN ID: Salmonefs
Games:
Dark Souls
Mass Effect 2
Heavy Rain (my favorite)
FIFA 10
GRID
Gran Turismo 5
Call of Duty Black Ops
Little Big Planet
Uncharted Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2
Portal 2
Modnation Racers
God of War: Collection
God of War 3
Street Fighter IV
Resistance: Fall of Man (very old but classic)
DC Universe Online
Almost on the limit of friends I can add but will appreciate requests~
Arghhh, my dorm neighbor's internet went down and I've been stuck without it for a week and a half now. Probably should have gotten my own a month ago. (Cafe is my internet for now)
Almost platinum'd Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny. Just need to catch 2000 fish for it...
First Rune Factory game I've played.
Great game, saw Skyripper playing it so I decided to get it.
Also got No More Heroes: Hero's Paradise. I saw some girl licking a bat on the cover of the case and I knew I had to get it.
At first, I fell asleep an hour in because it got really boring but then it started becoming fun as I progressed through the game. The handling on the motorcycle driven is really wonky. I don't know if that's just how it is but there's a 1 second delay before it starts turning. That's one thing I don't like about the game not to mention the minute wait to save. Overall though, it's decent.
I'm probably gonna buy Saints Row 3 just because.
Waiting for FFXIII-2 'til then.
Almost platinum'd Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny. Just need to catch 2000 fish for it...
First Rune Factory game I've played.
Great game, saw Skyripper playing it so I decided to get it.
Also got No More Heroes: Hero's Paradise. I saw some girl licking a bat on the cover of the case and I knew I had to get it.
At first, I fell asleep an hour in because it got really boring but then it started becoming fun as I progressed through the game. The handling on the motorcycle driven is really wonky. I don't know if that's just how it is but there's a 1 second delay before it starts turning. That's one thing I don't like about the game not to mention the minute wait to save. Overall though, it's decent.
I'm probably gonna buy Saints Row 3 just because.
Waiting for FFXIII-2 'til then.
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Yeah, I wanna get Rune Factory. How's the combat in that anyway? It looked kind of Kingdom Hearts-esque.
Who's getting FFXIII-2 anyway? I'm still not sure if I should. I got the Plat in the last game, but I didn't really like it. And the fact that they're doing that stupid monster party member thing like in Tales of Symphonia 2 isn't helping to convince me to buy it.
Who's getting FFXIII-2 anyway? I'm still not sure if I should. I got the Plat in the last game, but I didn't really like it. And the fact that they're doing that stupid monster party member thing like in Tales of Symphonia 2 isn't helping to convince me to buy it.
It's a numerical Final Fantasy game, so I'll likely play through it eventually.
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It's kind of crap that they made a sequel, and then made sure that you didn't get to keep any of the party members from the original. So you're stuck with Serah and a dude wearing poofy, purple pants. Not to mention everything's so wildly different that it's hard to call it a sequel. Definitely feels like a spin-off.
from what I've seen the battle system is almost identical
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Yeah, that's the only thing that's keeping me from thinking this should just be FFXV. But you've got towns again, you can replay parts of the story, I guess, you've got the Pokemon crap, you've got a new battle encounter system, branching dialogue trees, summons work differently, and there are quicktime events in battles now. The only thing that's the same as FFXIII is paradigms.
Paradigms were kind of a big deal though.
If I had to use a completely imaginary weighted system I'd probably say paradigms were about 85% of the battle system.
If I had to use a completely imaginary weighted system I'd probably say paradigms were about 85% of the battle system.
the other 15% was YOU AFRAID OF OL' SAZH?
Goddamn, that head bobbing.
Fuck, I just realized how shitty FFXIII-2 is going to be without that.
I hope Serah's provoke is good enough.
Fuck, I just realized how shitty FFXIII-2 is going to be without that.
I hope Serah's provoke is good enough.
haha no, that ain't happenin. I think Sazh is still in the game, but he's not playable, so we're stuck with a bunch of faggots for party members
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A bunch? I think there's only the two permanent party members. I think you get to play as Lightning temporarily and I don't know if Sazh is playable, but I think he's DLC anyway. And I think you can play as some NORA members or something?
I'm guessing Serah and futurefag as permanent party with some Lightning playability. Guest characters will show up but they will be autonomous, like the NORA members were in the beginning of XIII (or were they, so fucking long since I touched that game). Snowfag (omg I needed moar party in da back) and Hope (I like to think I outgrew my androgyny) will be some such characters. Whatever, as long as I can use a malboro and breathe on bitches I will be satisfied.
I want one of those annoying ass jurassic bird dinosaur things that stun the fuck out of you on my side.
ID: Telepyrokinesis
Games:
Battlefield 3
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Gran Turismo 5
Test Drive Unlimited 2
GTA4 (episodes of liberty city)
Demon's Souls (I WANT DARK SOULS NOW)
Talking about this, I made this video. I Really need to fix it and I have no idea how to... I posted it in 3 forums and asked lot of people but they just don't know how to fix it...
Games:
Battlefield 3
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Gran Turismo 5
Test Drive Unlimited 2
GTA4 (episodes of liberty city)
Demon's Souls (I WANT DARK SOULS NOW)
Talking about this, I made this video. I Really need to fix it and I have no idea how to... I posted it in 3 forums and asked lot of people but they just don't know how to fix it...
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Fuck, guys. Fuck. Resident Evil 6. November 20th. Screw this Operation Raccoon City buuullshit coming out soon. All of a sudden November 20th is all that matters. Every game in between has vanished from my horizon and it's all about RE6.
RE5 was actually a bit disappointing though, don't you think? I mean, that doesn't mean RE6 won't be any good, and won't be better, but I find anticipation for it challenging.
In other words I have acquired and been playing Shadow of the Colossus in 3D. I appreciate the 3D aspect of it but dammit why is every friggin' HD remake done so poorly
In other words I have acquired and been playing Shadow of the Colossus in 3D. I appreciate the 3D aspect of it but dammit why is every friggin' HD remake done so poorly
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It would have been nearly impossible for me to have been disappointed with RE5. I didn't play any other RE game and I wasn't even looking forward to RE5. I only got it because Rolled convinced me to get it and I only played it in co-op with him on Veteran during my first playthrough. That was the best way to experience that game for me. If I was waiting for that game and though RE4 was the greatest thing ever, then played RE5 by myself, regardless of difficulty, it would've sucked. Now see, after I had such a great time with RE5, I played RE4 because of all the hype, and I didn't like it even half as much as RE5, so that disappointed me.