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Two_old
yes
KRZY
Well forgive the poor Korean for being dumb please

Also keeping on my word: unvote

adam, what is a channeler?
Two_old
a channeler is nothing lol
KRZY
I know, I guess I am doing what you've already done seven pages ago

Vote: adam2046
Two_old
thx
Jinxy
adam has 10 votes, assuming Chris is a doublevoter.

wait that means he's L-1
adam2046

KRZY wrote:

But adam, you're gonna have to do a better job of defending yourself than that.
I have nothing to defend against, Two is voting me because I haven't roleclaimed. Roleclaiming would ruin the game for me and would benefit mafia.
The only argument for me being mafia that has been pointed out is that I never roleclaim in games.
KRZY

adam2046 wrote:

KRZY wrote:

But adam, you're gonna have to do a better job of defending yourself than that.
I have nothing to defend against, Two is voting me because I haven't roleclaimed. Roleclaiming would ruin the game for me and would benefit mafia.
The only argument for me being mafia that has been pointed out is that I never roleclaim in games.
You realize you dying is more beneficial to Mafia than you roleclaiming if your role is so important.
adam2046
So...don't kill me?
Backfire
KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x
adam2046

Backfire wrote:

KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x

adam2046 wrote:

link
Backfire
Im on my phone.
Just go to the iso for mara and look for the steam chat picture.
If youre going to be lazy, then I will provide nothing.
0_o
link

The only thing that's "confirming" him though is the fact that he was given a warning and not modkilled, but I don't see any reason why LS would have responded differently if one of them were anti-town.
KRZY

Backfire wrote:

KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x
You know what

unvote

vote: Backfire
Mashley
Vote Kokizi
Seriously, this guy is not posting at all. He should be our priority for lynching because he has contributed nothing since the start of the game.
Backfire
Well whatever.
Chris_old
hey guys

why is it not d2 yet

also krzy is mafia
Sleep Powder
You guys know that bandwagons are good for scumhunting, right?

With Two here, I'm guessing he has some kind of role that works well with roleclaims.
bmin11

LunaticMara wrote:

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?
This, I found interesting after learning Two controlled Adam. I'm willing to see if Two's power is the good or not.

Vote: Adam
adam2046

bmin11 wrote:

LunaticMara wrote:

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?
This, I found interesting after learning Two controlled Adam. I'm willing to see if Two's power is the good or not.

Vote: Adam
Mara already that this was bullshit.
bmin11
Eh nvm then unvote and I'm still having hard time to understand this Two controlling Adam and how that proved Adam's guilt. Maybe I'm too tired :|
Mara
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT THE MOMENT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY SOMETHING

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
KRZY

Chris wrote:

hey guys

why is it not d2 yet

also krzy is mafia
as much as u are
adam2046

bmin11 wrote:

Eh nvm then unvote and I'm still having hard time to understand this Two controlling Adam and how that proved Adam's guilt. Maybe I'm too tired :|
There's no proof that I'm guilty.
Basically:
- Two has decided that he would like to vote for me.
- Two's most loyal non-thinkers voted me.
- Two wants me to roleclaim to make him unvote.
- My refusal to roleclaim (as I do in every game) has led to everyone else voting me at the behest of Two.

Notice a trend here?
Two_old
I go to bed and you all start being horrible

please don't be so bad as to let someone who refuses to roleclaim to save both himself and the town from making a mistake live today

I'd especially like for mashley and KRZY to fix their mistake, since those votes are just completely wasted
KRZY
I wanted to show that I am ready to vote for Backfire at a moment's notice. I may have said that I think he is town some pages ago. Not anymore.

Unvote, vote adam2046
Backfire
I still dont know what I did.
Two_old
you keep posting and giving mafia material

remember I told you to stop responding to that

trying to lynch you, trying to lynch kokizi, trying to lynch mduh, those are all copout lynches

when one of their own is in danger, mafia turn towards the easily lynched
adam2046
Everyone voting me.
Can I get a real reason?
Chris_old

adam2046 wrote:

Everyone voting me.
Can I get a real reason?
mafia with krzy
Lilac
Well, essentially it's D1.

The fact is, no-one wants to get lynched but obviously SOMEONE has to get lynched since it's the town's main way to get Mafia and gives information. You haven't even convinced us your role is worth keeping, let alone not lynching you.

That's how I see it, anyway.
adam2046
Hang on, let me try my hand at this give me a sec
Lilac

Lilac wrote:

You haven't even convinced us your role is worth keeping, let alone roleclaiming.
Sorry about that.
adam2046
Geez guys, you're all so bad. It's so hard to watch how bad you all are.
If you don't want to be bad, then you should vote for whoever the hell it is I'm voting.

Lilac you are so dumb that it hurts, Two you are also dumb and I'm surprised you can even form the characters you type into coherent words at this point.
If any of you actually want to win this game, then you should listen to everything I say and stop being stupid, lynching a person because they aren't roleclaiming isn't a helpful move in a game where everyone gets made up roles especially on the bloody first day when only a select few have even used their ability. I am Town and anyone who is pushing for my lynch is being anti-town. I can't believe how bad and stupid town is.

Did I mention you're all bad? Except for Mara.
adam2046
I think that's the sort of thing you guys like.


Bloody bunch of masochists...
Two_old
no the bad people are the ones who can't see simple facts:

you will not roleclaim to help town, you don't help town, your past actions of not helping town make you mafia in a game like this
adam2046
The only person who ever says I don't help town is you in your alternate reality where roleclaiming magically wins every game.
Lilac

adam2046 wrote:

The only person who ever says I don't help town is you in your alternate reality where roleclaiming magically wins every game.
I kinda do admit though, that does seem to be the vibe I get from you Two...

...No offense, man.
Backfire
What do I know, im just a potato.
Two_old
why don't you list the ways in which you help town adam
Two_old
adam:
keeps town uninformed
doesn't stimulate discussion
unmalleable; won't go along with anything other than a cop result and rejects logical conclusions

that's all I can come up with I think
adam2046

Two wrote:

adam:
keeps town uninformed
doesn't stimulate discussion
unmalleable; won't go along with anything other than a cop result and rejects logical conclusions

that's all I can come up with I think
I don't encourage roleclaiming on day 1 because I don't like giving mafia a fuck tonne of info to make their best decision on night 1.
Untrue.
Only true when I'm asked to roleclaim. Otherwise I make decisions that I feel make the most sense and am willing to change my thoughts based on the information present.
Contrary to popular belief I am willing to roleclaim in situations where it makes sense. Very few of these situations involve you.
Two_old
are you really saying you stimulate discussion

I have never seen you actively posting except to defend yourself

it is literally unbelievable to me that you can be so observant and yet so blind as to the benefits of roleclaiming day 1

and the idea that "hey I never roleclaim guys that's just what I do" wouldn't make you a prime mafia candidate is insane
adam2046
Because mafia never roleclaim.
Especially in games where they can make up whatever role they want.
Two_old
mafia avoid roleclaiming whenever possible, yes

you have a little more freedom in this game, but you can still step on someone's toes and be caught
Two_old
it's worth mentioning that pretty much anything you claim day 1 as mafia will screw you over

you either claimed something that should produce results and will create a contradiction later, or you will claim something bad like bulletproof and the vote will eventually be defaulted to you
adam2046
vvv The below is untrue vvv

Roleclaim: Skeptical I can take one statement from any post and check to see if it's true or false.

^^^ The above is untrue ^^^

And thus I have a role that somewhat makes sense, has a 50/50 chance of being right and can incriminate other players. I can easily claim that I was roleblocked to avoid the inevitable test of my ability easily wasting a day even if I end up getting lynched on day 2 I will have still delayed my death and helped mafia.

Two wrote:

it's worth mentioning that pretty much anything you claim day 1 as mafia will screw you over

you either claimed something that should produce results and will create a contradiction later, or you will claim something bad like bulletproof and the vote will eventually be defaulted to you
But, I'll be alive beyond day 1.
Chris_old
you heard it here folks
Two_old
and what statement did you test today
adam2046
The roleclaim.
It came back untrue.
Two_old
goodness so were you trying to confuse the same people that have been pushed to be lynched
adam2046

Two wrote:

goodness so were you trying to confuse the same people that have been pushed to be lynched
This sentence makes absolutely no sense to me.
Two_old
we're dealing with people that still think there's a channeler in this game

you can't roleclaim something like that without saying very clearly that it was an example unless it's an attempt to get their vote off you
Two_old
can we please just lynch adam before 100 pages thx
adam2046

Two wrote:

we're dealing with people that still think there's a channeler in this game

you can't roleclaim something like that without saying very clearly that it was an example unless it's an attempt to get their vote off you
I'd like to refute that claim.






But I can't.
KRZY
Which roleclaim do you mean?
KRZY
More importantly,



Why did you make this post? Did you make this post on your own will or were you forced to?

Is this what Two's role is? To force players to claim false roles?
KRZY
Or am I being a complete idiot who can't read
adam2046
We went over this.
Two's role is to force anyone to say anything he wants them to (has not stated any limits on this) this includes forcing people to vote for someone (although they can unvote he can force a hammer).
Not complying will result in a modkill.
Mashley
How can that possibly be a pro-town role?
KRZY
I assume you were not allowed to say that you were forced by Two to post?

So that's why LS said don't even make a reference to it, I get it.

Unvote
adam2046
The only reason anyone can give for it being town (including myself) is "because it's Two".
adam2046

KRZY wrote:

I assume you were not allowed to say that you were forced by Two to post?

So that's why LS said don't even make a reference to it, I get it.

Unvote
I didn't know who forced me to post, but I did say that I was forced to post it at some point.
It was more interesting to see who reacted to it. It also ended up with me being motivated (like anyone remembers it anymore...)
KRZY
Seeing as you were motivated, see if you can tell whether multiple statements are true or not. I think you've already tried tho.
adam2046
AHAHAHAHA
Oh god, I need to go for a walk.
KRZY
Oh are you saying people concluded that you were motivated?
Two_old
krzy that was a fake roleclaim used as an argument against a point I made

you really should just vote for adam and start fresh on day 2
KRZY
I really don't know who to trust anymore. I agree that adam's attitude has not been pro-town, but I feel I would have done the same out of frustration if I was in his shoes.

If you really want to hammer him I think you can do it without my vote, Two. I'll keep my vote to myself for now.
Two_old
I don't think I can hammer him without your vote

I think what's going to happen is more of my time is going to be wasted trying to keep stupid at bay until the deadline hits
Chris_old
so are we gonna afk and delay adam's lynch until d1 is over
0_o
w/e, vote adam
Backfire
Too many votes to hammer T_T
Wojjan
then vote him
Jinxy
I wish LS would give a votecount already

But alright, no use dragging this further since Day ends today. vote adam2046.
Two_old
that was hard

KRZY hide behind 0_o

0_o motivate me still pls

animask protect 3 people other than yourself without saying who
0_o
What's the point of KRZY hiding behind me AND me motivating you? We only need one of those to confirm me.
Rantai
Mafia motivator?
0_o
riiight

fine then
Two_old
fine hide behind rantai
Rantai
Hide behind Two.
Chris_old
unvote vote rantai
Two_old
^mafia roleclaim right there

only reason I wanted him to hide behind 0_o was because of the likelyhood of my night kill

hiding behind me has no point at all except to get him killed with me
Two_old

Two wrote:

^mafia roleclaim right there
@rantai
Rantai
Don't mistake me, I don't mind if he hides behind me.

Except the whole 2 for 1 death. You aren't worth more than a 2 for 1
Two_old
yes I am
Rantai
And there lies the disagreement. Though I would like to be wrong in this case.

As far as I'm concerned you're using other towns to save yourself.
Two_old
I don't think I am but even if I was it would be worth it
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Hide behind Two.

that was pretty much the most mafia thing I've ever heard you say

too bad we don't have mashley or we could do


animask - protect two/rantai/?
mashley - shoot rantai

that way if rantai was mafia and they decided to roleblock animask to kill two rantai would still die~

unless they were both town then lol
Two_old
after all, keeping me alive would make 0_o seem town, so either 0_o or I have to die tonight, or 0_o has to be roleblocked, in which case animask could be allowed to protect me if he chose to

it's not at all throwing anyone under a bus
Rantai
Oh actually easier solution, animask protect me as one of your targets. Then I have absolutely no problem with a hide.
Rantai
Oh ninja.
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Oh actually easier solution, animask protect me as one of your targets. Then I have absolutely no problem with a hide.
@MOD

If someone is protected by a doctor, if someone attempts to hide behind them will it still work/kill them if they are mafia?
Rantai
I'd like to know that too.
Two_old
KRZY hide behind rantai
0_o motivate me
animask protect me/0_o/rantai

I don't see any problems with that but it feels off
Two_old
hiders aren't the ones being protected so they still die
Chris_old

Two wrote:

hiders aren't the ones being protected so they still die
that wasn't even the whole question

if someone is protected it might protect them from being hid behind
Two_old
protection is from kills

that's how doctors work
Chris_old

Two wrote:

protection is from kills

that's how doctors work
they didn't say doctor specifically though it could be complete immunity

we are still assuming hider is town role so someone needs to watch rantai tonight to make sure they are targetted

assuming there is a watcher which lol seems like a good lurker role
Two_old
yes they did

I'm part Miller and part Doctor. "Everyone says that I'm scummy, every game. My intent is good, but nobody ever listens."
Chris_old
also if there is a doctor cop scan the hider too to see if he comes up mafia cause I'm pretty sure that krzy shows the role he hides behind
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