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Backfire
I honestly think it would be a horrible idea to lynch me.
Why?
Well, we know im town, I have the potential to get very valuable data, as already shown by the LS event pm and am fairly active and add to the conversation.

Lynching me should be low on the list.
Two_old
backfire you need to stop responding to that
Backfire
Im sorry ;-;
Mara
OK TWO

VOTE: ADAM

AMEN
adam2046

Backfire wrote:

I honestly think it would be a horrible idea to lynch me.
Why?
Well, we know im town, I have the potential to get very valuable data, as already shown by the LS event pm and am fairly active and add to the conversation.

Lynching me should be low on the list.
We know for a fact that you're town?
Oh, I must have missed the page where someone confirmed you.

Guys, I just got a PM from LS. It said backfire is mafia and that I'm 100% innocent.
Backfire
I want to say one thing
The LS pm and my confirmation werent the same thing.
adam2046
link
Rantai
If you made him do that why did you incriminate animask?

Then again I guess you just used that to confirm your role, nevermind.

Which brings me to my next thought. How is you being able to force anyone to say whatever you want a good thing for town?

Other than you are the almighty farseer of town.

(@Two, of course)
Two_old
I didn't use it to confirm my role. The idea was to use someone who was likely mafia as a puppet to hunt down other mafia, then cut the cord to incriminate him. Here is what I had planned for day 2 after I'd sent day 1 (I didn't want to keep lunaticmara around at this point):

"A force threatens this town once more. I will tell you flat out, to even the score.

NWPCVKEOCTC

From glyph hop once, hop twice due east, some would say. To find the answer you have only this day.

Roleclaim - Possessed Channeler (Sphinx)"
Rantai
Ahh now I understand.
Two_old
vote for adam now? :o
adam2046
I don't really get it, there's no restriction saying I can't just tell everyone I'm being forced to say something.
Two_old
and? I took care of that by making it possession
adam2046
So you think that town would just follow along with information from nowhere or some-yeah they probably would...
Rantai
I'll compromise. I'll vote for him if he hasn't been hammered, tomorrow.

Only because I feel slightly more comfortable about you atm.

Edit: english
Two_old
rantai there is a reason why I'd like him lynched today

please assist me
Two_old
or you can ignore my post~

I guess I have to waste it on you after all
Rantai
What reason?

(I left the house again for a bit, my bad)
Two_old
well if I wanted to tell you the reason I'd have just told you

let's just call the reason "plan b", and what I shared with you "plan a"
adam2046
I don't think I like plan b.
Rantai
/sigh

Fine, I'll play your little game. If it turns out bad you're going to get my vote a lot.

Vote: adam
Kokizi
20+ pages since my last visit. and it's just day 1. oh my.
Two_old
all you gotta do is vote for adam2046
Jinxy
I think there are 8 votes on adam now?

So Two has an undisclosed reason as to why he wants adam lynched. I seriously do not like this idea, but no one else stands out right now. Mostly because Two made adam stand out. Gaaaah.

Yeah I'll think about it while bathing
Two_old
jinxyjem if you're waiting for the votes to shift to someone else, you're going to be waiting a very long time

so either discount the reasons I've given for voting for him and offer a better substitute, or vote with us
Two_old
it would also be nice if KRZY posted
adam2046
You'll be getting coal this year, Rantai.
Rantai

adam2046 wrote:

You'll be getting coal this year, Rantai.
;~;
adam2046
But seriously, don't lynch me.
KRZY
What the fuck is a channeler/librarian

Can't find it anywhere on the web
Two_old
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
KRZY
Also why the fuck are you guys up so early
Two_old
read the thread
KRZY
Also didn't post yesterday cuz I went to bed at 8 after playing God knows how many LoL games
Rantai

adam2046 wrote:

But seriously, don't lynch me.
I seriously don't want to. But this supposed 'plan' is more interesting and holds more weight than my assumption that you are just stubborn.
Two_old
it would be nice to hear from wojjan too who I just saw lurking
adam2046

Rantai wrote:

adam2046 wrote:

But seriously, don't lynch me.
I seriously don't want to. But this supposed 'plan' is more interesting and holds more weight than my assumption that you are just stubborn.
Any plan that specifically involves me dying is fundamentally flawed.
Wojjan
Can we get a votecount?
adam2046
Unless it's a mafia plan.
Two_old
someone said it was 8 votes adam I don't know how accurate that is
Wojjan
so why are we voting adam and not 0_o?
0_o
Two_old
because he roleclaimed
Wojjan
yeah so are we just gonna massclaim?
Wojjan
oh no whoops missed a page vote: adam
Two_old
I don't want it to distract from this but, if you want to, go for it I guess
KRZY
Last 20 pages:
  • Backfire is acting real strange. I'm starting to think Backfire may be mafia and Mara may be the third party member.
    I understand we want to get Day 1 over with. I don't support it, but I understand why.
    I still don't have a fucking clue on what a channeler is. Maybe I'll go take ESL next year. Why is it a role that fits Two perfectly?
    I see no reason to lynch adam. Why? Two and his bandwagon starters (Chris, animask) could so easily be Mafia rolefishing. I am aware that they have done a similar thing as town numerous times before.
    Lilac is town. Bmin11 seems a little scummy, animask a lot, lot more scummy.
Wojjan
I'd love too roleclaim but I don't have a role
KRZY
But adam, you're gonna have to do a better job of defending yourself than that.
Two_old
you didn't read hard enough

I'm not a channeler, that's just what I told adam to say he was
KRZY
So a channeler is a nonexistant role?
Two_old
yes
KRZY
Well forgive the poor Korean for being dumb please

Also keeping on my word: unvote

adam, what is a channeler?
Two_old
a channeler is nothing lol
KRZY
I know, I guess I am doing what you've already done seven pages ago

Vote: adam2046
Two_old
thx
Jinxy
adam has 10 votes, assuming Chris is a doublevoter.

wait that means he's L-1
adam2046

KRZY wrote:

But adam, you're gonna have to do a better job of defending yourself than that.
I have nothing to defend against, Two is voting me because I haven't roleclaimed. Roleclaiming would ruin the game for me and would benefit mafia.
The only argument for me being mafia that has been pointed out is that I never roleclaim in games.
KRZY

adam2046 wrote:

KRZY wrote:

But adam, you're gonna have to do a better job of defending yourself than that.
I have nothing to defend against, Two is voting me because I haven't roleclaimed. Roleclaiming would ruin the game for me and would benefit mafia.
The only argument for me being mafia that has been pointed out is that I never roleclaim in games.
You realize you dying is more beneficial to Mafia than you roleclaiming if your role is so important.
adam2046
So...don't kill me?
Backfire
KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x
adam2046

Backfire wrote:

KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x

adam2046 wrote:

link
Backfire
Im on my phone.
Just go to the iso for mara and look for the steam chat picture.
If youre going to be lazy, then I will provide nothing.
0_o
link

The only thing that's "confirming" him though is the fact that he was given a warning and not modkilled, but I don't see any reason why LS would have responded differently if one of them were anti-town.
KRZY

Backfire wrote:

KRZY, again, I will state, theres like no way I could be mafia :x
You know what

unvote

vote: Backfire
Mashley
Vote Kokizi
Seriously, this guy is not posting at all. He should be our priority for lynching because he has contributed nothing since the start of the game.
Backfire
Well whatever.
Chris_old
hey guys

why is it not d2 yet

also krzy is mafia
Sleep Powder
You guys know that bandwagons are good for scumhunting, right?

With Two here, I'm guessing he has some kind of role that works well with roleclaims.
bmin11

LunaticMara wrote:

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?
This, I found interesting after learning Two controlled Adam. I'm willing to see if Two's power is the good or not.

Vote: Adam
adam2046

bmin11 wrote:

LunaticMara wrote:

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?
This, I found interesting after learning Two controlled Adam. I'm willing to see if Two's power is the good or not.

Vote: Adam
Mara already that this was bullshit.
bmin11
Eh nvm then unvote and I'm still having hard time to understand this Two controlling Adam and how that proved Adam's guilt. Maybe I'm too tired :|
Mara
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT THE MOMENT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY SOMETHING

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
KRZY

Chris wrote:

hey guys

why is it not d2 yet

also krzy is mafia
as much as u are
adam2046

bmin11 wrote:

Eh nvm then unvote and I'm still having hard time to understand this Two controlling Adam and how that proved Adam's guilt. Maybe I'm too tired :|
There's no proof that I'm guilty.
Basically:
- Two has decided that he would like to vote for me.
- Two's most loyal non-thinkers voted me.
- Two wants me to roleclaim to make him unvote.
- My refusal to roleclaim (as I do in every game) has led to everyone else voting me at the behest of Two.

Notice a trend here?
Two_old
I go to bed and you all start being horrible

please don't be so bad as to let someone who refuses to roleclaim to save both himself and the town from making a mistake live today

I'd especially like for mashley and KRZY to fix their mistake, since those votes are just completely wasted
KRZY
I wanted to show that I am ready to vote for Backfire at a moment's notice. I may have said that I think he is town some pages ago. Not anymore.

Unvote, vote adam2046
Backfire
I still dont know what I did.
Two_old
you keep posting and giving mafia material

remember I told you to stop responding to that

trying to lynch you, trying to lynch kokizi, trying to lynch mduh, those are all copout lynches

when one of their own is in danger, mafia turn towards the easily lynched
adam2046
Everyone voting me.
Can I get a real reason?
Chris_old

adam2046 wrote:

Everyone voting me.
Can I get a real reason?
mafia with krzy
Lilac
Well, essentially it's D1.

The fact is, no-one wants to get lynched but obviously SOMEONE has to get lynched since it's the town's main way to get Mafia and gives information. You haven't even convinced us your role is worth keeping, let alone not lynching you.

That's how I see it, anyway.
adam2046
Hang on, let me try my hand at this give me a sec
Lilac

Lilac wrote:

You haven't even convinced us your role is worth keeping, let alone roleclaiming.
Sorry about that.
adam2046
Geez guys, you're all so bad. It's so hard to watch how bad you all are.
If you don't want to be bad, then you should vote for whoever the hell it is I'm voting.

Lilac you are so dumb that it hurts, Two you are also dumb and I'm surprised you can even form the characters you type into coherent words at this point.
If any of you actually want to win this game, then you should listen to everything I say and stop being stupid, lynching a person because they aren't roleclaiming isn't a helpful move in a game where everyone gets made up roles especially on the bloody first day when only a select few have even used their ability. I am Town and anyone who is pushing for my lynch is being anti-town. I can't believe how bad and stupid town is.

Did I mention you're all bad? Except for Mara.
adam2046
I think that's the sort of thing you guys like.


Bloody bunch of masochists...
Two_old
no the bad people are the ones who can't see simple facts:

you will not roleclaim to help town, you don't help town, your past actions of not helping town make you mafia in a game like this
adam2046
The only person who ever says I don't help town is you in your alternate reality where roleclaiming magically wins every game.
Lilac

adam2046 wrote:

The only person who ever says I don't help town is you in your alternate reality where roleclaiming magically wins every game.
I kinda do admit though, that does seem to be the vibe I get from you Two...

...No offense, man.
Backfire
What do I know, im just a potato.
Two_old
why don't you list the ways in which you help town adam
Two_old
adam:
keeps town uninformed
doesn't stimulate discussion
unmalleable; won't go along with anything other than a cop result and rejects logical conclusions

that's all I can come up with I think
adam2046

Two wrote:

adam:
keeps town uninformed
doesn't stimulate discussion
unmalleable; won't go along with anything other than a cop result and rejects logical conclusions

that's all I can come up with I think
I don't encourage roleclaiming on day 1 because I don't like giving mafia a fuck tonne of info to make their best decision on night 1.
Untrue.
Only true when I'm asked to roleclaim. Otherwise I make decisions that I feel make the most sense and am willing to change my thoughts based on the information present.
Contrary to popular belief I am willing to roleclaim in situations where it makes sense. Very few of these situations involve you.
Two_old
are you really saying you stimulate discussion

I have never seen you actively posting except to defend yourself

it is literally unbelievable to me that you can be so observant and yet so blind as to the benefits of roleclaiming day 1

and the idea that "hey I never roleclaim guys that's just what I do" wouldn't make you a prime mafia candidate is insane
adam2046
Because mafia never roleclaim.
Especially in games where they can make up whatever role they want.
Two_old
mafia avoid roleclaiming whenever possible, yes

you have a little more freedom in this game, but you can still step on someone's toes and be caught
Two_old
it's worth mentioning that pretty much anything you claim day 1 as mafia will screw you over

you either claimed something that should produce results and will create a contradiction later, or you will claim something bad like bulletproof and the vote will eventually be defaulted to you
adam2046
vvv The below is untrue vvv

Roleclaim: Skeptical I can take one statement from any post and check to see if it's true or false.

^^^ The above is untrue ^^^

And thus I have a role that somewhat makes sense, has a 50/50 chance of being right and can incriminate other players. I can easily claim that I was roleblocked to avoid the inevitable test of my ability easily wasting a day even if I end up getting lynched on day 2 I will have still delayed my death and helped mafia.

Two wrote:

it's worth mentioning that pretty much anything you claim day 1 as mafia will screw you over

you either claimed something that should produce results and will create a contradiction later, or you will claim something bad like bulletproof and the vote will eventually be defaulted to you
But, I'll be alive beyond day 1.
Chris_old
you heard it here folks
Two_old
and what statement did you test today
adam2046
The roleclaim.
It came back untrue.
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