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pieguyn
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pieguyn
Compressed Streams

Those streams that are only 2 or 3 level 3 grids apart (or considerably small compared to the rest of the map). It's used in just about every map using streams.

Examples:

Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece
SPOILER

EastNewSound - Hana wa Gensou no Hate ni
SPOILER
Sure
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Sure

pieguy1372 wrote:

Compressed Streams

Those streams that are only 2 or 3 level 3 grids apart (or considerably small compared to the rest of the map). It's used in just about every map using streams.
This one?

Silver Forest - The Doll Maker of Bucuresti [Lunatic]

pieguyn
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pieguyn
Yes, that type of stream.
Sakura
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Sakura
I thought those were called Anti-Jumps?
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
Those are absolutely nothing like anti jumps
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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NoHitter
It's more of the spacing suddenly decreases
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Double Spinners

Self-explanatory from the title. A technique where you use two spinners in a row, usually to make a hitsound for the next spinner without the use of a circle or pre-spinner note. (There are ranked maps which use 3 in a row but are very rare)

The common usage of this technique is either before a break or near the end of a song.

Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm by lesjuh [Expert] - This is one of the rare triple ones.



Pendulum - Watercolour by Larto [Insane]



Alex C. feat. Yasmin K. - Angel of Darkness (Nightcore Mix) [Lily's Hard] - Example where a break or the end of the song isnt after the technique

NoHitter
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NoHitter
Current Nominations:
49. Differential Stacks
50. Krisom-Krosses
51. Spiral Slider
52. Compressed Streams
53. Double Spinners

Nominations with Not Enough Ranked Examples:
54. Step-Too-Fars
55. Spider Sliders

Already Rated
1. Back and Forth Beats
2. Mirrored Sliders
3. "Half-Backing"
4. Etna Sliders
5. Reverse Zig-Zag Sliders
6. Triangle Beats
7. Short Repeating Sliders
8. Spacing Out (Patternmap)
9. The Kickstream
10. Blanket Combos
11. Zig-Zag Sliders (the normal kind)
12. Segment Sliders
13. ztrot Spacing
14. Accelerated Spacing
15. Anti-Jumps (SeibeiStyle)
15.5. Anti-Jumps
16. Flower Combo
17. Rainbow Sliders
18. Deathstreams
19. Orbital Sliders
20. Slider Art
21. Triplet Streams
22. Back-and-Forth v2
23. Slider Trains
24. Parallel Sliders
25. Windmill Sliders
26. Wave Sliders
27. Zig-Zag Streams
28. Square Formations
28.5. Square Formations v2
29. Switch-Back Sliders
30. Honeycomb Beats
31. Back-&-Forth Beats v3
32. Oibon Jumps
33. Post-Spinner Note
34. Cutting Sliders
35. Hooooooold Sliders
36. Tricky Triple Combo
37. Double Stacks
38. Tick-Hitsounds
39. Crumpled Sliders
40. Divebomb Combos
41. Pre-Spinner Notes
42. QQ Diamonds
43. Tornado Combos
44. Central Anti-Jumps
45. Star Formations
46. Drain Sections
47. End-Cutter Sliders
48. Endpoint Slider Jumps
Rukario
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Rukario

Lilac wrote:

(There are ranked maps which use 3 in a row but are very rare)
Oh hey I have one of these rare cases in my maps.

Gigi D'Agostino - L'Amour Toujours by Rukarioman [Hard
mm201
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mm201
A special shout-out goes to Ready Steady Go in Ouendan1.

Also these are the ideal places for spinner combo hax.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
From memory...didn't Ready Steady Go have 4 spinners in a row?

This map has 4 spinners in a row as well.

Luvdic
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Luvdic
Nominating: tieff's double beat jump - Call them whatever you guys want.

The main idea of this is: group of 2 circles separated with a larger spacing than the spacing between the two circles in the group, and generally are placed almost parallel, and each group has a new combo.

Amane - BOOZEHOUND - Difficulty made by Lesjuh, at 01:18:555 -



07th Expansion - Worldenddominator - Hard, made by tieff at 02:54:080

SapphireGhost
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Nomination: Stream With a Note Under It
Description: A stream (usually 5-9 notes) that ends, then has a 1/2 to 1 beat pause, and then has another note under the last note and can cause combo-breaking.

Hatsune Miku - Netogen Haijin Sprechchor (by Lalarun)
supercell - Oshiete Ageru (by y u c a)
Drop - Gensou Kidan (Kaguyahime + Mikotonori Ver.) (by Shinxyn)
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Krisom
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Krisom
Nominating: Chorus-Spacing
· This technique consists on slightly increasing spacing during the Chorus to give it a more epic feeling. In later versions of this technique, it also slightly increases sliderspeed.

Maps that use this technique:
(Most Kioukiou maps...)
Toyosaki Aki - Apron Days By kioukiou
Crush 40 - Sonic Heroes By Krisom
Marina & The Diamonds - Oh No! By Larto

Normal 1/2 Spacing

Chorus 1/2 spacing
Sure
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Sure

SapphireGhost wrote:

Nomination: Stream With a Note Under It
Description: A stream (usually 5-9 notes) that ends, then has a 1/2 to 1 beat pause, and then has another note under the last note and can cause combo-breaking.
You can find them in almost of Mystearica's maps.
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
Nominations with Not Enough Ranked Examples:
54. Step-Too-Fars
55. Spider Sliders
More examples:

Demetori - Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~Nuclear Fusion
Difficulty: Atomic
very high velocity + high bpm. (current 2.4 SV, 175 bpm x1.5 section)

1.0
SPOILER


1.1
SPOILER

1.2
SPOILER




And another not so "bright" example:
Maximum The Hormone - What's Up People?
Difficulty: Lucifer
Very high slider velocity + high bpm (Current: SV 2.7, BPM 244 (The end of the song))
SPOILER


It's important to make each slider like spider leg. That's why this^ is bad example.

DJ Sharpnel - StrangeProgramm
Difficulty: HappyMix
Standart SV + high bpm (Current: 215 BPM, 3.4 SV (2x section)
SPOILER


I can try to find more :/
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Sure
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Sure
Spider has 8 legs.
Insect legs slider instead? XD
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
4 legs are too much, i can't shove them all on play field. So osu! spiders have 3 x 2 legs xD
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Sorry guys I haven't been able to post techniques for a while, been very busy lately.
Garven
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Krisom wrote:

Nominating: Chorus-Spacing
· This technique consists on slightly increasing spacing during the Chorus to give it a more epic feeling. In later versions of this technique, it also slightly increases sliderspeed.

Maps that use this technique:
(Most Kioukiou maps...)
Toyosaki Aki - Apron Days By kioukiou
Crush 40 - Sonic Heroes By Krisom
Marina & The Diamonds - Oh No! By Larto

Normal 1/2 Spacing

Chorus 1/2 spacing
Sometimes I find it more appropriate to actually slow the slider speed down during the chorus instead of speed it up. Perhaps change the wording of the description?

Ex: Hatsune Miku - Zureteiku [Garven's Hard]
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson
Err... I'm not sure if anyone has nominated this, but here I go anyway:

Curl sliders


Chayanne - Torero [Insane]


The Good Natured - Be My Animal [Rukarioman's Extreme]


Evanescence - Call Me When You're Sober [Insane]


Panic! at the Disco - The Ballad of Mona Lisa [Panic!]


Pretty self-explanatory, these are sliders that "curl up". They can be used when the music goes from higher pitches to lower ones, or vice versa.
DJNightmare
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DJNightmare
(Optional) A name for the technique (it can be an official name or one you make up)
An accurate description of the technique (or alternatively, a screenshot of the technique)
A link to atleast 2 ranked maps that have the technique. (The specific point in the map would help too)

Name: Jumping Slider Stream
Description: It consists of repeated slider streams that suddenly jump with a 1/4 beat, Jump Stream i guess... (1/3 beat is also the same)
Maps: [url=Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star]http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62589[/url] , [url=IOSYS - The Lovely, Freezing, Tomboyish Bath, Cirno's Hot Spring]http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27107[/url]
DJNightmare
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DJNightmare

DJNightmare wrote:

(Optional) A name for the technique (it can be an official name or one you make up)
An accurate description of the technique (or alternatively, a screenshot of the technique)
A link to atleast 2 ranked maps that have the technique. (The specific point in the map would help too)

Name: Jumping Slider Stream
Description: It consists of repeated slider streams that suddenly jump with a 1/4 beat, Jump Stream i guess... (1/3 beat is also the same)
Maps: DJ sharpnel - Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star , IOSYS - The Lovely, Freezing, Tomboyish Bath, Cirno's Hot Spring
HakuNoKaemi
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HakuNoKaemi
I found I'm Using the "Step-Too-Far" Tech... will say when it get ranked :3
Niva
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Niva
I'm not sure if this technique has been nominated before, but at least I should try nominating it:

Jump Pauses (I can't find any better name orz)

Description : Basically notes which separated much (~1/1 or more) on the timeline, and placed after a jump. They are placed so closely (or even stacked) so they gave a "pausing" effect. Could also be continued again with another jump.

Examples :

Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 ~ Hyper
DJ YOSHITAKA - ALBIDA ~ Manten
Rex - Heart of Witch ~ InoStyle

From what I see this is much used accompanying a dominant bass sound (:


Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Antijumps? Looks like it to me.
GladiOol
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GladiOol
Yeah, flow killing ugly anti jumps.
Shiirn
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Shiirn

GladiOol wrote:

Yeah, flow killing ugly anti jumps.
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE 1.0X SPACED I HATE JUMPS I HATE ANTIJUMPS I HATE SPACING CHANGES


Anti-jumps are great when used not-shittily.
m980
Elite Mapper
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m980

Shiirn wrote:

Anti-jumps are great when used not-shittily.
Same thing applies to everything.
bmin11
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bmin11
Well it is a technique after all even though it's really an two-edged sword kind of skill
HakuNoKaemi
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HakuNoKaemi

GladiOol wrote:

Yeah, flow killing ugly anti jumps.
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE 1.0X SPACED I HATE JUMPS I HATE ANTIJUMPS I HATE SPACING CHANGES
well, depend on how you use antijumps they can be used even in easies difficulty and be easy to read...
Astom
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Astom
o/
I'm going to nominate one :3 (Yea I'm pretty bored :<)
Optional Name by me: Circular jumps formation or Circular formation (or something like that).

peppy hate this one hehe
00:41:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
Kana Asumi - SOMEONE ELSE (TV Size)
SPOILER
00:22:259 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1)
DEKABANCHO - Mirai e Go (TV Size)
SPOILER

Name and images explain all so~
Rukario
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Rukario
I think this could count too.

DIGI-SEQ-BAND2000 - Somehow You Found Me [Expert] by VitaminB6
01:09:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
SPOILER
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock
Larto's The Sharpest Lives map has Step-Too-Fars.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Astom:
They look like Back and Forth Beats arranged in a circular motion.

Also guys, sorry for not updating this for a long time. I'll get on it soon.
Equivalent_old
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Equivalent_old

Rukarioman wrote:

I think this could count too.

DIGI-SEQ-BAND2000 - Somehow You Found Me [Expert] by VitaminB6
01:09:753 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
SPOILER
Look interesting <3
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson

Shiirn wrote:

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE 1.0X SPACED I HATE JUMPS I HATE ANTIJUMPS I HATE SPACING CHANGES
Never :3

Btw, did anyone check the Curl Sliders nomination? xD
Dangaard
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Dangaard
After seeing the "Drain Section" I'm nominating the Recovery Section (aka new combo spam :P)

Basically it's the usage of many new combos in a certain section of the map, preferably right before the chorus or the repeat of the chorus. It works best with higher HP drain rates and is supposed to "heal" the player right before the more challenging part is starting. Also there can be more of them e.g. to recover after a hard section.

There are many maps with new combo "spam" but I don't know if the mappers had the recovery-technique in mind, so I will post 2 of my own maps where I intentionally used this:

Map #1: HTT - NO, Thank You! (TV Size)


Map #2: Rina Satou - Keikenchi Joushouchuu (TV Size)


In both examples I used the new combo section right before the chorus repeats. I think "NO, Thank YOU!" is the better example since the HP drain can be pretty harsh if you don't have a good accuracy (~95% or higher).
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Dangaard wrote:

In both examples I used the new combo section right before the chorus repeats. I think "NO, Thank YOU!" is the better example since the HP drain can be pretty harsh if you don't have a good accuracy (~95% or higher).
Oh I know how that feels. >_>

Anyways, how do we get the Krisom criss cross sliders to be rated? I like those sliders.
Luvdic
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Luvdic

Raging Bull wrote:

Anyways, how do we get the Krisom criss cross sliders to be rated? I like those sliders.
Check this thread viewtopic.php?f=61&t=51905
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
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Charles445
I have one I want to nominate, I see this popping up more and more

Stream Jumps

A change in spacing in the middle of a 1/4 stream to create a very quick jump, usually accompanied by a new combo

Some mappers use sliders before a stream jump to make the jump easier.

Examples:
Oriental ST8 - Shoreline
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34715

A stream jump on a slow song
100-200-400 - Fascination MAXX
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/56549

A large stream jump on a 200 BPM song
DragonForce - Cry for Eternity
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/92051

Some stream jumps in the 170bpm section, these using sliders before the stream jumps to make them easier.
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock
I have excuses for some combo spam now yeah
Jenny
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Jenny
Crushing Sliders

Using highspeed (mostly 1/8-)sliders for some kind of flowcrash, mostly with the same volume as usual or a higher one (using a [custom-]clap-hitsound increases the crushing effect) - those don't destroy the whole flow but bring some kind of reset to the map, if you get what I mean.

Examples:

[box=IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Kanbu de Tomatte Ikimashita (DJPop) [Love:4104f]]
Well, not the best example, but everyone knows it and you know what it sounds like - a big crash
[box=t+pazolite - Chipscape (Shiirn) [Ragnarok:4104f]]
Good example for using those
[box=Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle) (Takuma) [!ignore this:4104f]]
Also a quite good example
[box=Renard - Banned Forever (Blue Dragon) [Nogard:4104f]]
Just wawawawawawawa-sliders~Hope you got what I tryed to explain, kinda tired :cry:
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
@Crushing sliders: I'd say that those are a bit unrankable (especially Marisa-style ones where you can't even read that they're sliders unless you know the map), but they are quite memorable and iconic!
ziin
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ziin
especially when you miss it and the game won't let you hit it midway through.
bomber34
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bomber34
Climax

The Diff. starts easy and then it gets harder and/or harder so it could feel like an epic match or boss fight.(see Two Steps From Hell)
Most time used in the beginning of a Song.
Difference between this and Drain time is that it doesn't effect the Drain bar so/that much.

Denji Sano - Taiko Time
Insane
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/24320

Two Steps From Hell - Dragon Rider
Conflict
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21550

i would like to add Noisa - Groundhog (BeatStruggle) but it isn't approved/ranked yet D:
Kiddo-Kun
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Kiddo-Kun
Double stacking Circles:
A series of circles that are arranged in a 1/2 pattern so each notes has ONE circle stacked under it.
Bad description? Of course. Here is a little picture on an un-ranked map that has it
SPOILER

See how (2) is under (1) and everything is 1/2.
Don't know any ranked maps that have this on the spot, but I know I've seen it somewhere. I'll post some as soon as I see them.
Hopefully you know what I mean.
Tenshi
366 posts
Joined March 2011
Tenshi

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

Double stacking Circles:
A series of circles that are arranged in a 1/2 pattern so each notes has ONE circle stacked under it.
Bad description? Of course. Here is a little picture on an un-ranked map that has it
SPOILER

See how (2) is under (1) and everything is 1/2.
Don't know any ranked maps that have this on the spot, but I know I've seen it somewhere. I'll post some as soon as I see them.
Hopefully you know what I mean.
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=48063
Kiddo-Kun
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Kiddo-Kun
>__________> I always end up missing shit like that. Even when I double check.
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock
viewtopic.php?p=647849#p647849

hell yeah
examples
SUPPLIED
Kitsunemimi
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Kitsunemimi
This place is dead as hell ;_;
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
Have you ever been in hell?
GigaClon
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GigaClon
These would be good content for the wiki
D33d
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D33d
If I may revive this thread, then I'd like to nominate something pretty neat:

Treadmill Sliders



So called because of their use with the treadmill choreography of OK Go - Here it Goes Again, these consist of elbow sliders which dip at the end. They're generally combined with circles on offbeats and their effect is generally a satisfying left-right motion, which creates a gradual movement up or down.

Other maps include:

Mika -Grace Kelly



Leslie Hall - Tight Pants / Body Rolls



Doppelman - Error!!

[CSGA]Ar3sgice
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[CSGA]Ar3sgice
It doesn't even have this here, no science

GigaClon
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GigaClon

D33d wrote:

If I may revive this thread, then I'd like to nominate something pretty neat:

Treadmill Sliders
looks good why don't you put it on the wiki there is a template and everything
D33d
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D33d

GigaClon wrote:

D33d wrote:

If I may revive this thread, then I'd like to nominate something pretty neat:

Treadmill Sliders
looks good why don't you put it on the wiki there is a template and everything
Good point! I haven't contributed anything to the wiki yet, so if I ever feel like it, then I'll add some things like that. Having said that, I'm curious to know waht other people think of those kinds of patterns, because I'd love to see them used more often.
OnosakiHito
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I have there a question. Is it possible to add Mapping Techniques for Taiko too?
Because I would really like to see what people think about certain patterns and the use of 1/6 in different constalations plus the use of finishers, SV changes and more.

There are so many things unclear yet and it would be just opportune to use this forum for taiko as well.
In Taiko we do also have certain mapping styles which effect the whole map and it's patterns, so knowng the opinion about some guys would be great.
Dolphin
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Dolphin

OnosakiHito wrote:

I have there a question. Is it possible to add Mapping Techniques for Taiko too?
Because I would really like to see what people think about certain patterns and the use of 1/6 in different constalations plus the use of finishers, SV changes and more.

There are so many things unclear yet and it would be just opportune to use this forum for taiko as well.
In Taiko we do also have certain mapping styles which effect the whole map and it's patterns, so knowng the opinion about some guys would be great.
I agree!
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