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IppE
IppE

Piotrekol wrote:

I'm trying to make PiP(picture in picture) but it won't work.
In video preview(before rendering) all looks ok.
But after rendering i'm getting something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrE0yXLXz8
Is this what you are after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFqDNqbd-mU ?
(I just used the same clip as the other video too cause I don't have much material at dads laptop...)
If so, avisynth works mighty fine.

clip1=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4")
clip2=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4").Spline64Resize(384,226)
Audio=FFAudioSource("osu flying highosu flying high.mp4")
Overlay(clip1, clip2, x=464, y=160, mode="blend", opacity=1.0)
video=last
AudioDub(video, audio)
Trim(768,2048)
FadeIO2(30, color=$000000)
go3001
30 posts
Joined March 2011
go3001
I use Camtesia Studio 7... It records sound no problem, but you have to have Osu in screen mode coz it doesn't record DirectX :/
theProdigy_old
theProdigy_old
Hi, i want to frap at 1080p is there anything extra i should know?
IppE
IppE

theProdigy wrote:

Hi, i want to frap at 1080p is there anything extra i should know?
Make sure your output drive can handle it and that you compress it in a sane way.
theProdigy_old
theProdigy_old
i am using a preset lets see the results.

one question, is it better to render with gpu? i have cpu i7 2600k/gpu sapp 6950/hhd w.d caviar black 1tb

and wich format should i use if i want it to have 32bpc

here is the video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdjuAR1U5RE
IppE
IppE

theProdigy wrote:

one question, is it better to render with gpu? i have cpu i7 2600k/gpu sapp 6950/hhd w.d caviar black 1tb
I assume you mean encoding the video with a gpu encoder or some other hardware accelerated solution.

If you're ok with the quality/filesizes it outputs, sure. GPU encoding solutions are hardly the most efficient ones though, mind you.
RinaChanx
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RinaChanx
anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
Remco32
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Remco32

RinaChanx wrote:

anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
No.
billy96
589 posts
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billy96

RinaChanx wrote:

anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
Yes
DJ Angel
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DJ Angel
Wait, i can do that without lagging :|
BlazingFX
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BlazingFX
lol, chose HD 1080p for template, turned out to be 20.4 gb. wut

edit, 720 made it 639 mb.
Piotrekol
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Piotrekol

BlazingFX wrote:

lol, chose HD 1080p for template, turned out to be 20.4 gb. wut

edit, 720 made it 639 mb.
You need to render it sir. to make ~100mb file from 6gb :D
IppE
IppE

Piotrekol wrote:

You need to render it sir. to make ~100mb file from 6gb :D
*encode, rendering is what vegas etc. does to apply effects to the video.

:3c
Reunilu
245 posts
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Reunilu
Does it also work with Bandicam too? It's the only thing I have to record with.
Remco32
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Remco32

SSShaymin wrote:

Does it also work with Bandicam too? It's the only thing I have to record with.
If it records your screen, sure.
smartypants
1 post
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smartypants
Ummm This version of fraps is really old... and this version of sony vegas is the newest one O.o you sure your alright? if you want the new version of fraps... get in here


*use google or ask the poster at your own risk*

XDD Don't worry its not virused
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Wumbo
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Wumbo
Thanks a lot for this thread.
koentie
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koentie
What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
IppE
IppE

koentie wrote:

What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
Settings for what? Recording or encoding? Be more specific please.
Pyrre
21 posts
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Pyrre
ah nice, i will try this :) i was using xfire and it worked really well actually.. but for some strange reason it adds some strange delay in the sounds on my recordings, and i dont have a clue why. I have tryed to reinstall it and it wont work anyway. but i will try with fraps insted ;)
Pyrre
21 posts
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Pyrre
hum .. my fraps adds deley in the music aswell <.< and it only records a few secounds :/ .. have never used fraps, idk how to either D: maybe will find out something after testing alittle xD..
Copter-kun
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Copter-kun
*coughtorrentcough*
Pyrre
21 posts
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Pyrre
oh fuck fraps, im going home! .. no but guys .. TRY WITH XFIRE FIRST!!! much much much much easyer then this crap, did i mention much? well anyway, why is this only recording in like 15 secs? <.< might it be cus i have free version? well what ever ima try find a free good program for recording
Copter-kun
399 posts
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Copter-kun
Read my post Pyrre
Pyrre
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Pyrre
yeah got fraps registrated now :P, im trying to get right settings, though i still think xfire is much easyer if you want something to just install and works ;D but im trying to get this to work ;)
Pyrre
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Pyrre
and this is how it all went ;D

Copter-kun
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Copter-kun

Pyrre wrote:

and this is how it all went ;D

Fixed link
Pyrre
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Pyrre

Copter-kun wrote:

Pyrre wrote:

and this is how it all went ;D

Fixed link
ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
Winshley
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Winshley

Pyrre wrote:

ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
You should just include the code only for the video.
This is NOT correct
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDlTiRGtXg[/youtube]
This is correct
[youtube]vSDlTiRGtXg[/youtube]

Sorry for off-topicness. /me poofs
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Haseo_old
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Haseo_old
Don't kill me but I think Bandicam is better than Fraps.
Remco32
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Remco32

Winshley wrote:

Pyrre wrote:

ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
You should just include the code only for the video.
This is NOT correct
{youtube}http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDlTiRGtXg{/youtube}
This is correct
{youtube}vSDlTiRGtXg{/youtube}

Sorry for off-topicness. /me poofs
{ }, seriously..?

Haseo wrote:

Don't kill me but I think Bandicam is better than Fraps.
You are entitled to your opinion.
koentie
4 posts
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koentie

IppE602 wrote:

koentie wrote:

What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
Settings for what? Recording or encoding? Be more specific please.
Excuse me! I'll be more specific! ;)
I have problems with recording, my osu slows down like hell and looks like I suck like hell.
I'll show you a link from a youtube recording from me a while ago.. did it twice and never did it again.



And this is a fairly good recording... They are even worse now, with faster songs. Oo
Remco32
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Remco32
What are your specs?
koentie
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koentie

Remco32 wrote:

What are your specs?
I'm not sure.. I don't know a lot about laptops/computers in general, but I found this:
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2010/Acer/Aspire/Aspire5742z/Aspire5742zsp2.shtml

I hope this helps. :)
Thanks in advance!
IppE
IppE

koentie wrote:

I'm not sure.. I don't know a lot about laptops/computers in general, but I found this:
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2010/Acer/Aspire/Aspire5742z/Aspire5742zsp2.shtml

I hope this helps. :)
Thanks in advance!
Yeah thats not going to run osu! and Fraps together smooth enough to do proper recordings, pentium + intel gpu doesn't just cut it.
koentie
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koentie
Any other less complicated programs maybe? I would really love to record my replays..
Winshley
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Winshley

Remco32 wrote:

{ }, seriously..?
Edited my post. I should have used the BBCode rather than taking workarounds. =_=;;

@koentie: Have you tried turning down graphic settings? You might wanna use "Low-end PC" and 640×480 resolution on the Options menu to be able to record using Fraps while retaining the 60 FPS.

My sister's laptop (yes, even crappier than yours) can record with Fraps just fine.
lolcubes
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lolcubes
Another thing which completely destroys your performance while using fraps is recording on the same hard drive you have your game on. Granted, it's only a minor hit cause osu! doesn't really take up that much resources, but it's still a hit.
Also if the hard drive is old, you might encounter some framerate drops out of nowhere.
Remco32
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Remco32
They still make pentiums?

koentie wrote:

Any other less complicated programs maybe? I would really love to record my replays..
You could try toning down some of the Fraps settings, like resolution and FPS of the recording.
lolcubes
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lolcubes

Remco32 wrote:

They still make pentiums?
Offtopic: Yeah they do, Pentium 840G is actually quite good.
:D
Winshley
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Winshley
Suggestion: All embed videos should be wrapped around with either [spoiler] or [box] BBcode. I'm having trouble browsing this thread due to CPU overload with Flash Player, slowing down overall performance of my old Pentium 4 PC. :(

(The thread makes me wish to have a new computer. lol)
Remco32
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Remco32

Winshley wrote:

Suggestion: All embed videos should be wrapped around with either [spoiler] or [box] BBcode. I'm having trouble browsing this thread due to CPU overload with Flash Player, slowing down overall performance of my old Pentium 4 PC. :(

(The thread makes me wish to have a new computer. lol)
Making them spoilered still loads them IIRC, so that won't help. I also don't think this whole forum should adjust because some people with ancient hardware can't browse them with optimal speed.
karakira
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karakira
I need help ! I don't find "make movie" in vegas..
I'm ok for the "render as" but i don't find the other part.

Ty for fast reply =)
hoihoisoi
134 posts
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hoihoisoi
Thanks! Really great guide! Now the Vid qualitie for my run through are much better. But just a question......my vids are about 500mb each.....any way to lower them to bout say 20-50?
IppE
IppE

hoihoisoi wrote:

Thanks! Really great guide! Now the Vid qualitie for my run through are much better. But just a question......my vids are about 500mb each.....any way to lower them to bout say 20-50?
Sure, if you bother learning how to use x264 and Avisynth
karakira
6 posts
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karakira
i don't find 'make movie' .... Help plz
Espionage724
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Espionage724

Remco32 wrote:

...I also don't think this whole forum should adjust because some people with ancient hardware can't browse them with optimal speed.
I think a lightweight skin should be added :p (if one exists, then disregard that)
Elit3noob
148 posts
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Elit3noob
lol seriously, 'not windows movie maker'. Windows Movie Maker is simple and quite good. Check out my HQ osu! videos :p http://www.youtube.com/user/Elit3noob?feature=mhee
IppE
IppE

Elit3noob wrote:

lol seriously, 'not windows movie maker'. Windows Movie Maker is simple and quite good. Check out my HQ osu! videos :p http://www.youtube.com/user/Elit3noob?feature=mhee
It certainly has improved, but what kind of filesizes are you getting for a ~3 min 720p30 file that is perceptually lossless?
Elit3noob
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Elit3noob

IppE602 wrote:

Elit3noob wrote:

lol seriously, 'not windows movie maker'. Windows Movie Maker is simple and quite good. Check out my HQ osu! videos :p http://www.youtube.com/user/Elit3noob?feature=mhee
It certainly has improved, but what kind of filesizes are you getting for a ~3 min 720p30 file that is perceptually lossless?
From 75mb to 300mb, but once i have finished uploading via Window Movie Maker, i open the 'temp' folder and delete the file so that it doesn't take up space on my hard drive
MewMewMint13
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MewMewMint13
Everything is wroung with mine!! The sonds off with the vid its too slow when is rec. I cant play right and Stops and starts rec. out of nowhere! :o
DennisGG
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DennisGG
I can recommend VHScrCap (VH Screen Capture Driver) or Xsplit Broadcaster.

I do know xsplit is being used primarily for livestreaming, but it also has the feature "Local Recording"

Highly reommendable!
Lucy-Kaede
435 posts
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Lucy-Kaede
Thanks for the guide!

Aproxx 3 minute map:
Fraps: 2.2GB
After Sony Vegas> .mpg: 135mb

I changed osu! resolutions to 640x480 though, so the video quality isnt the best, but enough for me ;)
..now If only my upload speed was faster than 0.3kbps
IppE
IppE

Lucy-Kaede wrote:

After Sony Vegas> .mpg: 135mb
If thats the 640x480 video, its still pretty big.

I'm getting like 50-80Mb with 720p videos :V
Lucy-Kaede
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Lucy-Kaede

IppE602 wrote:

If thats the 640x480 video, its still pretty big.

I'm getting like 50-80Mb with 720p videos :V
I used "template" = DVD NTSC instead of HDV 720-30p
It probably so big because its DVD?


IppE
IppE
Well MPEG2 is generally grossly inefficient compared to MPEG4 encoding. And that DVD template probably gives it the max bitrate specified in DVD spec, thus unnecessarily bloating it.

If you feel adventurous you can always read up on x264 and figure out how it works (Avisynth + x264 is pretty simple once you get the hang of it) or you can read Jeffro's quide on how to use x264vfw with Virtualdub as it uses a simple gui instead of a command line app.
Lucy-Kaede
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Lucy-Kaede
Quote

IppE602 wrote:

Well MPEG2 is generally grossly inefficient compared to MPEG4 encoding. And that DVD template probably gives it the max bitrate specified in DVD spec, thus unnecessarily bloating it.

If you feel adventurous you can always read up on x264 and figure out how it works (Avisynth + x264 is pretty simple once you get the hang of it) or you can read Jeffro's quide on how to use x264vfw with Virtualdub as it uses a simple gui instead of a command line app.
I'll try MPEG4 with 720-30p next time then :)
- Thanks!
I'll have a look at the guide next time I record, the lower I can get the file the better. I think it took about 40minutes - 1 hours to upload this vid to youtube <_<
Qliphoth_old
Qliphoth_old
With "Windows Live Movie Maker" at 1080p

3 mins : 180 Mb.
IppE
IppE

xMatryoshka wrote:

With "Windows Live Movie Maker" at 1080p

3 mins : 180 Mb.
VC-1 isn't half bad.
billy96
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billy96
any Dxtory user here?

with Handbrake (x264 of course), 40 MB, 3 minutes, at 720p
Pyrre
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Pyrre
this is how i make my
HDV 1080-60i (1440x1080; 29,970 fps)

then i render it as Windows Media Video V 11 (.wmv)
8 MBps HD 1080-30p Video

A video that is 5 mins will only be 300 MB and its still full HD (1080p) with really good quallity :)
Piotrekol
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Piotrekol

billy96 wrote:

any Dxtory user here?

with Handbrake (x264 of course), 40 MB, 3 minutes, at 720p
i can't get x264 working with dxtory(codec just won't show on list) would you help ?
IppE
IppE

Piotrekol wrote:

billy96 wrote:

any Dxtory user here?

with Handbrake (x264 of course), 40 MB, 3 minutes, at 720p
i can't get x264 working with dxtory(codec just won't show on list) would you help ?
Why use x264 with some flimsy GUI when x264 accepts Fraps video as input as is?
billy96
589 posts
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billy96

Piotrekol wrote:

billy96 wrote:

any Dxtory user here?

with Handbrake (x264 of course), 40 MB, 3 minutes, at 720p
i can't get x264 working with dxtory(codec just won't show on list) would you help ?
you need to download the codec first, or just download K-Lite codec pack

i once use x264 directly on Dxtory, no Output whatsoever, so i use Xvid on Dxtory and encode it to MP4 with x264 on Handbrake

IppE wrote:

Why use x264 with some flimsy GUI when x264 accepts Fraps video as input as is?
i'm not a command prompt user, GUI makes thing easier
Frizz
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Frizz
You need x264fw for that.

Also, scripting is fun when you get used to it. As a matter fact, I only need to run a batch file without having to tinker with anything for encoding using x264.
IppE
IppE

Frizz925 wrote:

Also, scripting is fun when you get used to it. As a matter fact, I only need to run a batch file without having to tinker with anything for encoding using x264.
QFT
billy96
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billy96

Frizz925 wrote:

Actually, scripting makes things easier than GUI. As a matter fact, I only need to run a batch command file and x264 will do its job.
suit yourself, at least both ways produce an Output that we want, this place is not for arguing which way are the best.
yuukun9
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yuukun9
When recording my fraps will pause for 5 seconds every 1 minutes and 50 seconds or so Dx
IppE
IppE

yuukun9 wrote:

When recording my fraps will pause for 5 seconds every 1 minutes and 50 seconds or so Dx
What kind of hard drive are you writing to? Sounds like there is some lag when it creates a new file.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
i know fraps can only make videos of 4GB or something, maybe that has something to do with it.
yuukun9
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yuukun9
500GB HD SEAGATE
made in korea maybe thats the problem? XDDD JKJK
yuukun9
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yuukun9
I fixed it! I changed saving destinations ;) THANKYOU IppE!!!!!
SnowReborn
SnowReborn
i think use xsplite is much better :o, first fraps lags / second fraps takes loads space of your hardrive, third converting file format from sony vegas takes time, xsplite live record and upload utube is much faster o_o also xsplite supports camera which can allow u to show hands XD
IppE
IppE

SnowReborn wrote:

i think use xsplite is much better :o, first fraps lags / second fraps takes loads space of your hardrive, third converting file format from sony vegas takes time, xsplite live record and upload utube is much faster o_o also xsplite supports camera which can allow u to show hands XD
But recording high quality (as in lossless to the human eye) with xsplit while retaining filesizes is pretty much impossible due to its realtime nature.
That and if you have a decent computer (which you should if you are to record gameplay of anything), fraps does not lag nor is hard drive space an issue (I have ~120GB of virtually useless stuff on my fraps folder that I just haven't bothered to delete).

Oh and about Sony Vegas, don't bother pirating "professional" video editing software for the sole purpose of compressing video, Vegas is not the best tool for it. Use x264 or one of its many GUI frontends such as RipBot264, HDConvertToX or Simple x264 Launcher.

I'd personally only use xsplit for streaming (which it is aimed for and is virtually perfect at).
thelewa
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thelewa
Ippe, don't bother.
IppE
IppE

ragelewa wrote:

Ippe, don't bother.
You know I enjoy babbling about these things, even when the person I'm talking to has no idea what I'm saying.
Mara
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Mara

IppE to everyone else wrote:

Oh and about Sony Vegas, don't bother pirating "professional" video editing software for the sole purpose of compressing video, Vegas is not the best tool for it. Use x264 or one of its many GUI frontends such as RipBot264, HDConvertToX or Simple x264 Launcher.

IppE to Mara wrote:

SONY VEGAS? AHAHAHAH WHAT A FAGGOT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just a minor off-topic.

Sucks to be Mara.

-Athena-
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-Athena-
thanks remco, capturing the video was easy enough on my own,but the rendering part helped me a lot even though i use a new version
could never have figured it out myself especially with the templates XD
sony vegas is awesome :3
Kemonone Rou
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Kemonone Rou
use Fraps
-Athena-
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-Athena-

Kemonone Rou wrote:

use Fraps
I do but I can't render anything with it can I? XD
smileyone_old
smileyone_old
Thank you, this is useful information.
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
For those of you who don't want to pay for Fraps, try this http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/84536
AmaRecCo: Alternative Screen Capturing method for recording youtube videos
emergist
106 posts
Joined April 2011
emergist

darkmiz wrote:

For those of you who don't want to pay for Fraps, try this http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/84536
AmaRecCo: Alternative Screen Capturing method for recording youtube videos
Useful.
jacques96
4 posts
Joined July 2012
jacques96
I don't know why but my frap will only capture 29 seconds and then stop capturing....any ideas why?
IppE
IppE
Do you have the full version or trial?
nomen
539 posts
Joined March 2012
nomen
Buy torrent the full version and you will be able to record longer than 30seconds.
jacques96
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jacques96
ahhh ok thanks guys :)
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Thatgooey
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Thatgooey
You can also use Xsplit to do a local recording. It is easy on the hard drive space as well, and records in youtube friendly mp4 format.
IppE
IppE
But you're sacrificing quality or not getting the best compression possible since with xsplit you encode it in realtime due to the program being meant for streaming.
lolcubes
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lolcubes
While it's true, it's much easier on your system. Some people can't fraps @30 fps believe it or not. :/
Mithos
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Mithos
This works well if you want small file sizes to work with. http://www.zdsoft.com/screen-recorder/

It also take 10 seconds and a google search to crack :S
IppE
IppE

lolcubes wrote:

While it's true, it's much easier on your system. Some people can't fraps @30 fps believe it or not. :/
Those people should invest in a decent hard drive.

Or alternatively stop using laptops to record gameplay videos.
Jackyyy
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Jackyyy

IppE wrote:

Or alternatively stop using laptops to record gameplay videos.
But that's what I use :(
EarlMacTavish
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EarlMacTavish
I'm done with recording,but it's lagging.Why that happened? :(
Static Void_old
Static Void_old
This thread is really useful and I'd rather use BBFlashBack Pro 3 Recorder than use Fraps.
DJKero
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DJKero
Hey guys, I have an issue, Sony Vegas isn't taking the sound of the video recorded with Fraps :?
michaelda101
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michaelda101
my problem is that it suddenly stops recording I see the numbers go from Red to Yellow again without me stopping the recording.

Is it suppose to stop that way? I can't even record a full song in 1 video.
TakuMii
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TakuMii

michaelda101 wrote:

my problem is that it suddenly stops recording I see the numbers go from Red to Yellow again without me stopping the recording.

Is it suppose to stop that way? I can't even record a full song in 1 video.
If you're using the free version of Fraps, it'll only allow you to record videos up to 30sec.
Alucard
87 posts
Joined May 2012
Alucard
There's a built in recorder in MSI Afterburner that records pretty well on low-end computers.
People might want to take a look at it.
r E s P
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r E s P
very nice tutorial. If I'm got better skils . I'm started videos
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