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Chris_old
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Chris_old
well animask is basically dxs as far as activity goes town or mafia

akrolsmir is usually active when they're town though I don't remember them ever being mafia

and now they are inactive~

unvote vote akrolsmir

I would still prefer to lynch Lilac though since he's gonna be gone for so long but whatever

even if he has an aux ability it's not like he'll be able to use it
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
ival/jinx/backfire/krzy/luna/mashley/lybydose/lilac/adam/animask/foulcoon


all the possible lynch candidates

either haven't posted at all or have contributed nothing while still posting sometimes to seem active

what do you guys think
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
I think give them at least another 24 hours. There might be some other reason for staying quiet and a few of them have said nothing at all.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

I think give them at least another 24 hours. There might be some other reason for staying quiet and a few of them have said nothing at all.
it's easy to make up something to post when you realize lurkers are being gunned for

but what about the people on that list who did post but didn't contribute anyways

or did you just look at the people in your role pm
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
I just looked at my role pm, it had my name on it.

I speak on behalf of previous games I've played where I've gone on and found that I couldn't post much, except for a few small opinions without repeating what everyone else was saying. The main problem for me though was the thread only moved when I was asleep/at uni so by the time I came back to say something anything relevant was already discussed.

In simple terms I am just more lenient about early game activity because I have had the same problems. Whether you find it acceptable or not is another issue but that is how I feel about it.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
who would you want to have lynched then

out of curiosity
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
As much as you will probably disagree, Two. Just because I find it hard to believe the whole roleclaim.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

Rantai wrote:

I think give them at least another 24 hours. There might be some other reason for staying quiet and a few of them have said nothing at all.
that defeats the purpose

the idea is that mafia will lay low day 1 since there is the highest risk of aux backlash and overall suspicion against them from posting
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
oh and unvote, vote akrolsmir
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
I don't have an excuse, other than my brain just decided to be half-assed today after seeing 13 pages appear while I was asleep, so I can't find anything overly suspicious other than Hitter wanting to confirm Two with a day-ending lynch.

LS's posts about softclaiming were odd, since he never said HOW exactly it was supposed to benefit town and how he could tell a falseclaim, I guess.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
i'd go with Backfire from all those, but akrol it's good too i guess
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Wait, when does Day end?
Backfire
3,208 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
Im at least trying to keep up, salvage. Im not trying to be suspicious, I just dont want to be falsely accused of being mafia.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
Sorry, I've been busy this weekend. Will post my thoughts tonight.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

Backfire wrote:

Im at least trying to keep up, salvage. Im not trying to be suspicious, I just dont want to be falsely accused of being mafia.


glad to hear that



vote : akrolsmir



currently 4 votes con akro i think.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
If Two is lynch-proof he is probably aligned with town. I thought I heard someone say there isn't a vig in the Werewolf Mafia... anyways
its a 1-shot vig, but a lynch-proof modifier seems kind of unbalanced for that "role". There may be some bad roles mixed in with the good.

I actually agree with NoHiTter. His claims are pretty outrageous and should be tested with a lynch. Rantai also considered his role to be
fake. bmin11 posts about having multiple vigs... I think I'll place a FoS here for now. Reason? I guess its a gut feeling. I'm thinking that multiple vigs are unlikely even in games with 20+ people. Not really sure, so not really suspicious.

@adam, the mafia might not bother if he is a 1-shot vig, but they would rather kill Two if he was onto any mafia members.

Hmm, people are voting for akro? *reads akro's posts and posts about him*

We're voting for inactive people now? Is this the part where all the townies bandwagon on people to find out who the mafia could be?
I actually agree to this sort of thing so...

unvote, Vote: akrolsmir

Who I actually think is suspicious? Unsure.
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
I don't believe Two's full claim. Vig part, okay. Lynch- and bulletproof? Nope. At the very least not permanent. That would be pretty imbalanced since the only way he could be eliminated would be a faction that bypasses bulletproof (SK?). Sure it had the downside of killing him if he listed the wrong game, but Wojjan would have known that it'd be pretty easy to get at least one confirmable softclaim (Swift's behavior with the hinting and everything made it pretty obvious to me that his claim was true). It's just way too much reward for too little risk.
mod: Does this game treat bulletproof status as NK-proof (possibly daykillproof assuming a second dayvig of some kind) or does it literally only mean protection from bullets and different kill-flavors still take effect?
Now, I'm just thinking about what roles Two could possibly have that would allow him to convincingly fakclaim something this strong.
For now I'll just accept that he is probably at least 1-shot lynchproof, risking the lynch by proposing it himself might be a bit too much of a gambit when it was not yet confirmed that a lynchproof-lynch would end the day. Then again, if he is Mafia he might have asked Wojjan via PM/QT before he posted and just waited until someone asked for clarification (this would make pieguy who asked a possible scumbuddy).
The easiest way to fake bulletproof would of course be if he was scum and had some kind of scum-aligned doc or jailkeeper to protect him from possible SK/Town Vigs.
If he is indeed town, I don't see a reasonable way for him to fake both of these attributes at the same time, considering that he already claimed his dayvig ability and would need external help from other PRs to survive. The possibilities here would be that he gained 1-shot or 1-night versions of his claims (still really strong) or that he is pulling a similar gambit to Touhou PyP where he claimed to be NK-proof in order to pull all auxes of him. This would not be quite as strong though, because Wojjan already announced that anti-massclaim measures are in place so we wouldn't be able to analyze the information to the same degree.

This is confusing, after the whole Cultafia-ability stuff I don't even know what to expect in these forums anymore haha
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I'm actually permanently lynchproof. I promise that no one will ever lynch me.

As for bulletproof, why not try your luck tonight, Luna?
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY

Two wrote:

krzy I can't understand what you are saying
I am accusing you of faking your vig/lynchproof claim because you know this crowd will not go for a Two lynch. Can't back this up other than saying that's what I make of the whole situation.

Also, does the day have a deadline?
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
I like how everyone who lists you as possible mafia is scum
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
krzy please explain why I would fake that when the crowd would have never lynched me to begin with
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Luna, that's because this is a game about lying. Just because I say someone is mafia doesn't mean I actually think that. You don't fall under that category though. You really are.
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
If you think so
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
what I think matters more than you think

I can kill you tomorrow if I feel like it
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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Joined May 2009
KRZY

Two wrote:

krzy please explain why I would fake that when the crowd would have never lynched me to begin with
Works like a dare. "I'm lynchproof, I dare you to lynch me." Makes people reluctant to lynch you, like we're seeing right now.

Also I've never seen a dayvig in the 5-ish Mafia games I played so I don't know what to make of that.
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna

Two wrote:

what I think matters more than you think

I can kill you tomorrow if I feel like it
If I were scum I'd most likely have fakeclaimed my game.
You are sure that you could kill me? Well, how are you so sure that I didn't fakeclaim? Are you scum and know I'm town?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it doesn't matter what you claimed
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna

Two wrote:

it doesn't matter what you claimed
So now you are killproof with unlimited daykills?
Likely
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it actually is likely, since I'm not town aligned

I'm a lynchproof bulletproof day serial killer

the reason I'm claiming this is because I'd like to work with the town

I actually don't die if I get the game wrong, I get exposed as a serial killer and lose lynchproof for that day

what I offer is an extra lynch in exchange for good information and protection from lynches
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
Now that is believable.

Whatever good enough for me right now.
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
Since we can't win with a SK alive, I guess you already know that we will have to lynch you as soon as you miss a gameclaim. Otherwise it'd be game over for us because you'd be unkillable.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
wrong, you don't have to lynch me at that point

you have to lynch me sometime before the end, but the point of me claiming now is to not be lynched when I miss

I am essentially a vigilante with unlimited kills

I don't think a town member would want to waste that, but you aren't town are you Luna
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai

Two wrote:

wrong, you don't have to lynch me at that point

you have to lynch me sometime before the end, but the point of me claiming now is to not be lynched when I miss
Problem that I see is that you can just refuse to shoot. Then we will never be able to lynch you. Unless I missed something
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
I am not inherently lynchproof

I have to kill someone, I just worded it oddly
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
Are you forced to kill someone every single day? If so, okay.
Otherwise there's no way you'd miss more than one gameclaim and let yourself get lynched. You are cleverer than that.
Luna
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Luna
ninja'd with an exlanation.
In that case okay
Chris_old
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Chris_old
pretty sure I told everybody not to soft claim from the beginning
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
unless someone else has another plan, I will attempt to kill the people who claimed

if I get a game wrong, I think that would be a guilty result, right?
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley
I'd find the whole disregarding the win condition thing insane if it was anyone but Two. But it is Two. I was about to ask if you had a choice in killing but obviously you answered that before me.
The whole plan feels sooo cheaty but I guess if he really is on our side it gives us an enormous advantage. I'm wary of it though, of course.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
Good catch.

We have 7 claims. That's 7 potential days he can simply shoot them from the start of the day and not die. Actually I bet his role is one of the damn countermeasures.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
well wojjan specifically said mafia when referring to claims, and I'm not mafia

they either simply have fake claims or have something else entirely
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Wow Two, that explains a lot. (I just knew it.)

So I guess Two's off the chopping block for now.
Rereading the latest pages.
Two_old
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Two_old
I never was on the chopping block rofl
Rantai
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Rantai
You were this close to getting at least 1 vote though, from me.

Nonetheless you're already lynch proof today so I don't see a point in doing so but I so want to get rid of you as soon as possible. With those 7 claims and the fact I trust you right now as much as my sock to save me from drowning (yeah ok wtf at the comparison), who knows when you're just going to take your free kills and laugh at us while being unkillable.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I can just as easily work for mafia as I can town. If you don't agree to my terms, that's fine.
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
Two, please clarify your role.
You told me you'd be able to kill me even without my gameclaim.
Now you are saying that as attempted kill will fail if the claim was wrong ("if I get a game wrong, I think that would be a guilty result, right?")

What is it?
We need to know exactly before we can agree to anything.
Chris_old
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Joined February 2008
Chris_old
I just can't help but smile at how amazingly right I was 8-)

but um, I guess our lynches for the next 6 days are gonna be people who haven't claimed

starting with the inactives I guess~

if anyone lied and doesn't die we lynch them that day though
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
it's what I said on the next page

that was me bluffing
Luna
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Joined November 2010
Luna
If you target the claimed people in the order that town decides, I guess that's alright.
If you ever kill someone else we'll just have to instantly lynch you.
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley

Luna wrote:

If you ever kill someone else we'll just have to instantly lynch you.
Except we can't
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
if I kill someone else you can't instantly lynch me

plus I assume you mean the order chosen wouldn't have any involvement from you, since you're not town
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Luna wrote:

If you ever kill someone else we'll just have to instantly lynch you.
Except we can't
mafia don't have to read mashley

duh

also I vote Luna/LS as first two

in either order idc
Luna
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Luna
By instantly I meant "as soon as possible"
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
It's been 24 hours and you guys are already looking to string someone up for inactivity?

Also it's amazing how little it took you guys 20 pages to say. All that's really changed is Two's claim that he's a SK rather than a vig. I still think he's town and just making up parts of his role as he likes to do so much, but he probably has some plan cooked up.
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
if you really think that's all there is to comment on, I'm glad we are lynching you
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Wojjan

Luna wrote:

mod: Does this game treat bulletproof status as NK-proof (possibly daykillproof assuming a second dayvig of some kind) or does it literally only mean protection from bullets and different kill-flavors still take effect?
A bulletproof vest by my hand tailors in a way that it stops all kill attempts, regardless of flavor.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
mashley you lurk so much and hardly post :(
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley
99% of the time I've left it open in a tab and forgot about it I guess, I usually have tons of tabs open at any time. It's just how I roll bitchessss.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Would you be so kind as to share with us your win condition Two?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
my win condition is the same as a survivor
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
your turn
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
That means you have to control half the votes during the day?
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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Joined May 2009
KRZY
I'm just trying to confirm if Town can win with Two standing
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
I don't know? I guess
Two_old
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Two_old
I just checked and yeah it's half the votes
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
ok, thank you
Two_old
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Two_old
you can thank me by answering my question

what is your win condition
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
My win condition is the most common one
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
say it clearly and plainly
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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Joined May 2009
KRZY
That is all I can offer, my role PM does not have a win condition if I read it correctly.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
By that I mean it doesn't have a "you win when you XXX." It just says that I am town-sided.
Two_old
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Two_old
any town member want to confirm or deny this
Chris_old
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Chris_old
my PM didn't have a win condition but it didn't say I was sided with town outright either
Sleep Powder
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Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
I can't really quote the PM, but I see it in there. You guys should try reading the entire PM.

Can we get mod confirmation on this?
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Yeah, I can't find it... thought it would be somewhere by the "sided with town" part of the PM
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
mine doesn't say that I win with town, nor does it use the terms "town-sided" or "sided with town". It does, however, say "Town" directly before the role name so...

ex: You are a town "blank blank". etc...
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
My PM actually states that my alignment is with town (not in those exact words) so I don't know if there's a pattern. I'm not sure where we're trying to go with this, given that we know for a fact the mafia have fakeclaims anyways.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
hi guys i'm back

mine seems to be similar to foulcoon one.




also about two's claim i don't think he's unlynchable at all, and i doubt he'll help town staying alive since the chnaces of him hitting town are really high (as seen in the previous death, even tho i don't regret it).



if you think of the Serial Killer as a role it could be that he has it since it's really really hard to win as SK, so that unsure thing is that keeping me out from lynching him, since specially d1 .. no lynching is like the worst choice ever, better not taking the risk.


anyways i'm not sure about a lynch target right now, i don't like Mashley and Luna but they both claimed a game (enter in the Two's list) .. so an akro lynch seems like the best choice right now, there are a lot of other possible lynchs tho since everyone is lurking a lot.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Again: scarcely a day has elapsed since the game started. Calling anyone out as inactive would be pretty premature. Why are you so eager to get someone lynched?
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
I have a problem with literally 50% of your posts being about how you shouldn't have to contribute anything
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
what do you propose on talking akro, i'd like to hear your ideas since you're saying nothing in like the entire game.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir

Two wrote:

I have a problem with literally 50% of your posts being about how you shouldn't have to contribute anything
What, exactly, has there been to talk about besides you? You said earlier that I was missing something, care to point it out so I can address it?

inb4 your usual petulant "No."

Salvage wrote:

what do you propose on talking akro, i'd like to hear your ideas since you're saying nothing in like the entire game.
If I had free reign I'd propose examining someone who's trying to bandwagon along- like animask. But it'd probably be construed as a OMGUS so I'm going to say... LS looked much more active than usual early on, in my experience he's usually more quiet at the start of the game. Chris and Two are acting about normally aggressive. Something about Luna seemed off to me- it might have been the way he's talking. Last game his posts were a lot longer and detailed, while now they're more clipped and trivial (and lacking end punctuation)- see this versus this.

Lots of meta and nothing concrete, I realize, but those are my current thoughts.
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
why are you proposing an analysis of animask instead of doing it

or is that your placeholder post
Chris_old
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Chris_old
SPOILER
1. Backfire
2. 0_o
4. Ivalset
6. Lybydose
8. JInxyjem
10. pieguy1372
11. bmin11
12. NoHItter
13. adam2046
15. Rantai
16. KRZY
18. Lilac
21. akrolsmir

this is the list of people we can lynch from

who do you think akrolsmir or anyone else
Chris_old
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Chris_old
@MOD

Vote count please :)

and can you add players/deaths to the main posts plzzzzzzzz
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Chris wrote:

SPOILER
1. Backfire
2. 0_o
4. Ivalset
6. Lybydose
8. JInxyjem
10. pieguy1372
11. bmin11
12. NoHItter
13. adam2046
15. Rantai
16. KRZY
18. Lilac
21. akrolsmir

this is the list of people we can lynch from

who do you think akrolsmir or anyone else

so people don't miss it
bmin11
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bmin11
Thank you for keeping me on the list, Chris :P

Anyway, as long as Two works with the town side, we would be having two lynches a day, which is really helpful for town side. It would depends on situation, but keeping Two for now is a better choice.

Lynching lurkers are okay, but I still want LS for the lynch. I think I have explained enough for my reasoning.
Backfire
3,208 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
Well alright, I'll say my piece.

I think akrolsmir is the most likely to be mafia, from what I gather.

He's getting very offended from you all calling out people from being inactive, as if to try to cover up for planning and not contributing.

But I dunno ;w;
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir

Two wrote:

why are you proposing an analysis of animask instead of doing it

or is that your placeholder post
Did you just literally see the words "animask" and "propose", skip the rest of the sentence (not to mention the paragraph) and fire off a response?

Again, the fact that animask is voting for me could have cast doubts on my motivations for accusing him. I'll post my thoughts, if you insist.

In his only post of content, he just echoed the sentiments of everyone else, which seemed to me like he was trying to agree with everyone without coming up with new ideas. Then he votes for me, and disclaims it by saying that it's a bandwagon and that he's just agreeing with more people- there's deniability after I flip town while still pushing for my lynch. And then he ends it with another disclaimer that he's "unsure" of who to actually suspect.

@Chris- Lybydose has 0 posts, which you guys seemed to miss when rounding up the inactives. Other than that nobody really stands out in that list. Oh, this from Backfire amused me:

Backfire wrote:

Im at least trying to keep up, salvage. Im not trying to be suspicious, I just dont want to be falsely accused of being mafia.
Not quite sure how to interpret it though.
Chris_old
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Chris_old

bmin11 wrote:

Thank you for keeping me on the list, Chris :P

Anyway, as long as Two works with the town side, we would be having two lynches a day, which is really helpful for town side. It would depends on situation, but keeping Two for now is a better choice.

Lynching lurkers are okay, but I still want LS for the lynch. I think I have explained enough for my reasoning.
Everyone not on that list claimed their game name which means Two is gonna kill them one by one~ besides me

you're on the list cause you didn't

LS isn't cause Two is going to kill them
Backfire
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Backfire
Akro - Salvage was all like Rawr grrr
So I posted.
;~;
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Wait, so the new plan is "kill everyone"? rofl

There has to be a better way to find the mafia besides killing everyone who claimed trying to find fakeclaims. Actually, IMO the people who haven't claimed are a lot more likely to be mafia. Keep in mind that this plan would kill anyone who Two found to be innocent >.<//

If we can't think of anything better, I agree with that plan because it'll hopefully at least find one or two mafia :?

also, I think it's akrolsmir
bmin11
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Joined October 2008
bmin11

Chris wrote:

Everyone not on that list claimed their game name which means Two is gonna kill them one by one~ besides me

you're on the list cause you didn't

LS isn't cause Two is going to kill them
Right I see. I thought it was a list of lurkers. I've never thought of Two killing LS too. Good point.

Unvote
bmin11
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bmin11

pieguy1372 wrote:

Wait, so the new plan is "kill everyone"? rofl

There has to be a better way to find the mafia besides killing everyone who claimed trying to find fakeclaims. Actually, IMO the people who haven't claimed are a lot more likely to be mafia. Keep in mind that this plan would kill anyone who Two found to be innocent >.<//

If we can't think of anything better, I agree with that plan because it'll hopefully at least find one or two mafia :?

also, I think it's akrolsmir
Obviously we are not going to just go and kill people off and so does the target not going to die without a word.
Salvage
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Joined January 2010
Salvage

Backfire wrote:

Akro - Salvage was all like Rawr grrr
So I posted.
;~;


do you think it is wrong for me to do that?
Lybydose
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Lybydose
There's no way Two is an SK. Either that, or there's some part of the role he hasn't revealed.

Two claims to be an SK that kills during the day if he correctly guesses a person's game, but revealed as an SK if he guesses wrong. This role is completely stupid, because it is only effective if people mass-claim. If no one claims early, which Wojjan would have anticipated since he implied mass claiming would be bad, he is forced to guess (and probably get it wrong), and then immediately lynched.

This role is also completely ineffective against mass claiming. Most of the games with mass claims had them happen on Day 2. This role would do nothing to stop it because it would already be lynched and dead on Day 1 after a wrong guess.

Basically, it comes down to a bastard role that says "If people mass claim, you win. Otherwise, you lose Day 1". I highly doubt such a role exists.

Part of the role exists though. He claims to have killed Swiftwolf and no one countered the claim, so it was definitely made by him.


In other news, Backfire is playing the "appear to be active with fluff posts" game and akrolsmir is quick to divert attention by saying "yeah well, there are other people more inactive than me".
Two_old
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Two_old
lybydose, would you like to put your money where your mouth is?

I'd love to know your game name
Lybydose
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Lybydose
I'm not denying that you have the ability to kill people every day if you know what game they are from. I'm saying that one of the following is not true:

  • You become lynchproof
  • You're an SK that wins alone
  • You are required to attempt a kill each day
  • All of these?
So no, I'm not going to give you my game name.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
didn't you argue against the possibility of having to kill every day by saying something like no one would claim until day 2?

are you saying I'm a serial killer that wins with town?

or what
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
having just reread everything I realized that you were saying I didn't really have to kill every day

and I don't, and never said I did

I said I have to kill every day if I want to keep my lynchproof

the idea is that I'm going to kill every day regardless, so town may as well scratch my back and I'll scratch theirs (i.e. not lynching me should I fail(that's pretty much a guilty result anyway))
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