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PyP Video Game Mafia [MAFIA+SURVIVOR] - Dr. Hitter Escapes!

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bmin11
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bmin11
Way to discredit people! Isn't it, Salvage?


And FoS: Mashley, LunaticMara
You guys went to vote for Salvage even though we had quite amount of discussion and a plan. Is there a reason why you can't wait for a night? Or are you that sure Salvage is a mafia, even risking the chance of lynching a possible Watcher/Tracker? To me, you guys seem like trying to blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
Wojjan
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Wojjan

bmin11 wrote:

blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
I really don't think Salvage is neither easy or scummy at all.
bmin11
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bmin11

Wojjan wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
I really don't think Salvage is neither easy or scummy at all.
It would look like that if people only reads the last few posts and I think that's what they are doing. Randomly pops out -> vote -> vanish
foulcoon
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foulcoon
^ saying he only read the last few posts

and yeah Salvage thinks pretty highly of himself since that WWG win that was basically handed to him by retarded play. Hell, I won too so I guess I cant complain, I just find the differences from this game and WWG funny. That being said I dont think its worth lynching him until we know more info tomorrow. He is also acting considerably different from WWG (meta) but he was scum in that game so its not necessarily a bad thing.
Rolled
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Rolled

Salvage wrote:

Cause you already posted your opinions as Wojjan and Lyby did and i actually think that you and them are the only oens that could come with a good plan
As far as plans go, there really isn't much to be made with the information we have atm. Combining our two known aux roles into something strategic could result in far too much WIFOM shit involving roleblocks, mafia not killing, shit like that.

At this point in time all I can suggest is Salvage target whoever, and KRZY target somebody else. I'm bad at D1 in general, though.
Mashley
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Mashley
Mmm yeah that wasn't though through very well unvote
foulcoon
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foulcoon
considering my suspicions... i found the whole Backfire bandwagon interesting, and also thr amount of people who defended. that whole thing didnt really stick and most unvoted, so theres still a possibility Backfire is mafia. I also have some suspicion regarding adam, mainly because of the "forced roleclaim" shit. still not voting yet though. thoughs anyone?
foulcoon
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foulcoon
also on the subject of Backfire,

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=63167&p=1058787#p1058787

this post was made after the bandwagon, and he also made another post after that which was stupid and not at all serious. i would link it but im on my phone and its a pain in the ass.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I actually think adam and Backfire are town. or at least ther play styles fit with the games where they've been town so far.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
triple posting...

i dont know if my link worked properly, the post im refering to is when he says Ah, well or something after being voted.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I just reread and it really changed my opinion on stuff in hindsight.

Actually I really don't like how Salvage has been playing so far. This whole what's the plan attitude hits me like a farce to find out what will be going on tonight to know for sure if there's any chance it'd out him as if he's fishing for more roleclaims to figure out how to thwart the night or something. Salvage has mostly just been discussing who'll be on who tonight and painting fishie over and over in his spare time.

combine that with the fact that he was so eager to step on the brakes on the Backfire BW there's a fair chance they're both mafia.

Also there's the danger of rerouting a lynch to yet another player, having them roleclaim a PR, and continuing until we hit a townie and the entire town is outed. Right now, I'm not liking Salvage, and I think I missed it in the rush of "unvoting for the power role" thing.

Vote: Salvage because a roleclaim alone doesn't cover his scumplay.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
FAKEDIT: If Salvage flips scum I reserve the right to repeatedly scream I TOLD YOU SO and vote Backfire.
Salvage
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Salvage
mkay so if you guys lynch me today i'm gonna go and rape you all .. cause i'm really a spy infiltrator.
Rolled
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Rolled

Salvage wrote:

mkay so if you guys lynch me today i'm gonna go and rape you all .. cause i'm really a spy infiltrator.
This happens every game. When somebody who has roleclaimed, and is still on the verge of getting lynched, there's always a simple post such as "but I'm realllllllllllllly x role." Usually they're pretty easy to read whether or not they're telling the truth, and this post is rubbing the wrong way.

The absolute only thing preventing me from voting Salvage is his role claim. All other signs point to yes.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Vote: Salvage
Salvage
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Salvage
are you serious dude? with 19 people there could be like 5 or 4 mafia and you guys are willing to lynch a possible watcher/tracker D1? with the ability to proove me town in like 2 days or even 1 depending on how things go.
Rolled
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Rolled
How many games have you played invisible btw, Salvage?
Salvage
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Salvage
All of my games (3 so far with this one) .. started on the middle of WWV.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
alternatively, we could lynch you because youre annoying as fuck. if you turn up mafia we have basically confirmed fishie town. then i vote backfire or adam. i doubt you're smart enough to plan anything elaborate on day 1 anyways.

if you turn up town, were all richer for the experience because youre dead.

if you dont understand, i dont like you.
Salvage
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Salvage
i don't understand
foulcoon
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foulcoon
i dont like you
Wojjan
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Wojjan

foulcoon wrote:

i dont like you
quality interpersonal relationships
Rolled
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Rolled
Foulcoon did you really just un-invisible you noob. I swear you were invisible for the past 30 minutes at least.

-Rolled says invisibility is scummy
-Foulcoon goes un-invis
-WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
Mara
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Mara
What's the vote status at the moment?
foulcoon
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foulcoon

Rolled wrote:

Foulcoon did you really just un-invisible you noob. I swear you were invisible for the past 30 minutes at least.

-Rolled says invisibility is scummy
-Foulcoon goes un-invis
-WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
no, just switched from phone to iPad. my data connction was shit so i got on wifi.
Backfire
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Backfire
Wait, what did I do? I just think salvage is mafia. That makes me mafia, wojjan? ;-;
foulcoon
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foulcoon
i think salvage was one of the first to defend you after you had basically thrown in the towel

otherwise i dont really know why wojjan specifically is suspicious
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Well, being D1, there's a high probability that the person we lynch is going to flip town. But to be honest, I have suspicions that Salvage and someone else are mafia, but it wouldn't work if we lynch Salvage right now.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
EBWODP: What I'm implying is that our original plan will be wasted if we simply vote Salvage off now.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
so you think salvage is mafia, but its a bad idea to lynch him? doesnt really make sense. i havent seen a good plan yet, mainly because each plan has already been destroyed by people in the thread describing specifically how to fuck it up.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
True, but the reason why I say this is because investigators can use this plan to check and see if either one of them is lying.

...then again, if we vote Salvage, we can still make an attempt at getting a read on KRZY tonight with an investigation.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Our initial plan involves bmin dying if Salvage is mafia. If we lynch him right now, because his behavior is pointing abundantly towards scummy, we save a recruiter. Sometimes on D1 you just go with it. They could be town, but that learns us a lot from the people on the bandwagon, more if there's a sensor around.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
sensors are so broken, i doubt there is one.
Backfire
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Backfire
I dont remember him defending me. But even if he did, that doesent forbid him from being on my list. :/
Salvage
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Salvage

Wojjan wrote:

Our initial plan involves bmin dying if Salvage is mafia. If we lynch him right now, because his behavior is pointing abundantly towards scummy, we save a recruiter. Sometimes on D1 you just go with it. They could be town, but that learns us a lot from the people on the bandwagon, more if there's a sensor around.
KRZY not bmin, and yea i didn't get your point like at all .. seems like the most useless idea i ever heard.


also that "salvage it's annoying" thing it's so anti-town it hurts my eyes .. if i wouldn't have done what i did this would be a blind D1 to go trough, so since we seem to be going to pick the worst choice right now i'm gonna try to avoid posting cause it's starting to bother me.
bmin11
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And Wojjan meant by KRZY, not me if anyone is getting confused

And I still think it's a good idea to have a plan. Mafia is not the only side who can manipulate behind the scene. It's better then just throwing of actions and cross our fingers to get a result.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
...I don't think the mod got the prod. It's not showing up on the OP. If he did... well, this post is useless.

Prod: DxS
adam2046
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adam2046
Salvage trying to self preserve and acting as if he is the best thing since sliced bread. (I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE FISHIE MAN BUT DID YOU LISTEN TO ME MAN? NOOOOOOOO)
Foulcoon and Wojjan acting as if giving mafia info to act on day 1 is fine. Also Foulcoon told me to shut up, so he's a big poopyhead.
KRZY roleclaiming because... why the hell did you roleclaim?
Fishie, well... yeah. fishie.
Rest of the thread "No opinions right now."


Wojjan wrote:

I actually think adam and Backfire are town. or at least ther play styles fit with the games where they've been town so far.
Everyone listen to Wojjan.
In what way does my play style fit games where I'm town?
bmin11
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bmin11
I actually don't recognize adam's style as he always gets NK'd on N1 or N2.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (4) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon
fishie (3) Lybydose, KRZY, Salvage
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - adam2046

Not Voting (10) - Rantai, Lilac, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu, Mashley, bmin11

Jaqennn has asked for a replacement.
DeathxShinigami has been prodded.

Edit: Fixed
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DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
@Host

Numbers are wrong for Fishie and Salvage.
Mara
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Mara
So what should we do, if we find Salvage as scum at D2?
Mara
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Mara
And yes, fuck my Engrish.
Mara
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Mara
And triple post:

Same question - but replace Salvage with FisHie.
FisHie_old
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FisHie_old
I don't have any plans for Day 2 so far.
KRZY
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KRZY

fishie wrote:

I don't have any plans for Day 2 so far.
Yeah, cuz we don't know what we're doing for D1 yet.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
My gut actually doesn't say LunaticMara anymore. unvote

While I agree Salvage and fishie are suspicious, I have a gut feeling they're not mafia. My gut now says DxS, so vote: DeathxShinigami

Once D2 comes around I'll come up with something more reliable than just a gut vote :?
Rolled
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Rolled
What specifically made your gut change? Is it bipolar?

Actually, going to Vote: pieguy. The gut charade looks kind of forced, and gut votes are pretty much just a waste as nobody has the same gut as you, and you made zero attempt to explain why your gut is leaning in one direction or another.
Rantai
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Rantai
This gut thing again, on top of that voting a lurker aka easy target.

I view voting for lurkers to be something a mafia would do simply because they are such an easy target to take out and yeah gut, you might as well exclaim 'random vote!'

Right now I'm comfortable with either a pieguy or Salvage lynch, leaning Salvage but that might be me still seeing red from the other game.
Lilac
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Lilac
Salvage - Lynched D1 (Mafia Jack-Of-All-Trades)


Not bad, actually...Should have made him a JOAT in Touhou. His character would allow it too.









Also, I don't think that's something that requires a vote, just a suspicion Rolled.

Vote: Mashley. Conformity sucks. You're in the middle of all this somehow, posting yet providing just as little.
Lilac
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Lilac
Don't go Rantai!

Don't make me call you, I will do it.
Rantai
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Rantai
Wait what.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
You say you usually don't have much time to do discussions since everybody posts when you sleep...

...You can always discuss with me... >w<
Mara
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Mara
Romantic drama!

I don't see pieguy's gut feelings that scummy, but they are pretty weird indeed.
FisHie_old
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FisHie_old
Pieguy has seemed weird to me for a while now, can't really tell why though.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh I see. Well just for reference I am here for another 6 hours.
Salvage
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Salvage
pieguy allways did that gut thing d1 on every single game, i didn't like his Backfire 'random' vote at the beginning of the game tho ..


i'm starting to think you guys should lynch me to learn how to not make stupid decisions also.
Rantai
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Rantai
I am a liar, I have been told that my internet is going to be cut tonight (due to moving)

Best I can do is posting tomorrow afternoon (AEST).
Salvage
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Salvage
unvote
Salvage
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Salvage
also i found this a little odd :

adam2046 wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Wojjan
and then wojjan didn't say a word even with the RV already over ..


FoS : Wojjan, adam2046



goin to sleep now cya guys.
adam2046
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Salvage wrote:

also i found this a little odd :

adam2046 wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Wojjan
and then wojjan didn't say a word even with the RV already over ..
FoS : Wojjan, adam2046
What?
Maybe try thinking about why I would vote Wojjan. I'm sure the mafia genius Salvage can figure it out.
And does Wojjan have to respond to a single vote? Maybe Wojjan should have roleclaimed, I'm sure that would have worked out great.


Salvage wrote:

i'm starting to think you guys should lynch me to learn how to not make stupid decisions also.

Salvage wrote:

also , don't make me roleclaim d1 guys , seriously?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Yet he roleclaimed anyway.

Funny.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Backfire has asked for a replacement.
Salvage
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Salvage

adam2046 wrote:

What?
Maybe try thinking about why I would vote Wojjan. I'm sure the mafia genius Salvage can figure it out.
And does Wojjan have to respond to a single vote? Maybe Wojjan should have roleclaimed, I'm sure that would have worked out great.



oooooooh, did i hit mafia here? yay!



vote : adam2046



come on people, if adam flips out mafia then wojjan it's mafia and i'm town .. better option for d1, if somehow you guys do not listen to me and lynch me today ofc i'll flip town and you'll lynch adam tommorrow kthx.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
FoS: DxS

Gets prodded and posts just to correct votecount numbers.
Wojjan
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Wojjan

Salvage wrote:

ooooooh, did i hit mafia here? yay!
No. Vote Salvage harder.

Keep trying though.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
incidentially though adam that vote (and the past post but that's after the fact) is what made the meta for you work out town in my head. I remember LS' big game where I was a false tree stump, and the playstyle you had there (even though the game was ridiculous) fits the bill.
bmin11
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bmin11
The gut votting is something pieguy does every single mafia game, but I agree that vote is practically yelling "Lets bandwagon that lurker he didn't even responded to the prod ahhh". The other thing I'm feeling uncomfortable was this quote

pieguy1372 wrote:

2. That wasn't a serious HoS

3. That wasn't a serious HoS
You are implying your HoS to not serious at all and you weren't being suspicious of LS (which the claim itself doesn't make sense to start with). It seems to me pieguy really, I mean really by really not wanting any kinds of suspicion over him. He basically overreacted to such early suspicion and I'm getting a scum read from this


Vote: pieguy1372



P.S. Why am I bringing this up now? Because we were too busy discussing over Salvage's guilt and I totally forgot about it.
bmin11
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bmin11
And Salvage, I would have voted you multiple times already if it wasn't for your Tracker/Watcher claim =ㅅ=... This is really painful
Salvage
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Salvage
yea, now that we're probabbly not even gonna do what i suggested i'm gonna die anyways N1 cause i just got 2 mafia, but whatever.
bmin11
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bmin11
OKAY SUPPLY A GOOD REASONING. THAT'S ALL IT REALLY REQUIRES US TO TAKE YOUR POSTS SERIOUSLY
Salvage
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Salvage
Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
Wojjan
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Wojjan

Salvage wrote:

Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
that made so little sense. Not bothering with a vote out of nowhere means I know he's maf?
bmin11
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bmin11

Salvage wrote:

Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
A single vote is not as influential as you think, specially on a game where we have 19 players. I think you are drawing hasty conclusion.


P.S. Taking you post seriously doesn't necessarly means I'm agreeing with you. Atleast, it was good to know your thoughts. Just for advice, always have your reasonings with you whenever you are accusing someone. It really makes you look more town than a "Vote. Aha! you must be mafia" posts.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Before you can be Two you have to be right once or twice
Salvage
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Salvage
cool then wojjan i guess u won't have any problem voting for adam then?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yes I would because I think he's town
bmin11
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bmin11

bmin11 wrote:

A single vote is not as influential as you think
Now I feel bad for being ignored :(
Salvage
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Salvage
why ignored? people read this thread and hopefully will realize that i'm right and follow me too atleast in this, it's pretty much obvious right now that wojjan it's mafia also so adam or wojjan being lynched it's fine for me.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
you really don't need to say so four times, we read the thread. We got your FoS the first time.
bmin11
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bmin11
The way I recommand you to play is to counter argue whatever you think it's wrong. You can't just simply read and ignore the post without an input if you disagree to the post. What it really does is hurting the town if you stop discussing with other people.




Or did you choose to only listen to LS, Rolled, Wojjan, Lyby, and foulcoon's posts? Okay that's good I'll vote for you if that's the case
Salvage
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Salvage
That's not the case and i never mentioned foulcoon in the post, in fact i said i forgot to put you there .. that group of people it's the people i just expected to come with good plans, not the people i 'listen' i read everything and pay attention to everything, and that's why i'm asking you to trust me in this one ..

since i'm leaning towards trusting you're town here, for the rest of the people who reads this, realize that a lynch on me it's not a good option (also to point out that Wojjan suggested that) since i roleclaimed an important pro-town role ..


it could be a lie? sure, but what if it's not and you end up lynching a good role? i can be prooven telling te truth in no time anyways, plus i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia, i already stated why i think that and wojjan just came here to solidify my toughts about it, so since i already told everything about it i'd love if you guys really want to win to trust me.
adam2046
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Salvage wrote:

i read everything and pay attention to everything
Well we already know that's not true at all.

Salvage wrote:

i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia
Almost 100%
It's fucking day 1. You are not a mafia genius. Stop digging yourself a hole.
I don't want someone who claimed to be lynched day 1, but you're certainly not helping yourself with your attitude and actions. I want Wojjan lynched, more than you do, but you're making it extremely hard for me to not vote you instead entirely out of distaste.

For srs.
bmin11
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bmin11
I'm not sure about Wojjan, but I'm willing to lynch pieguy for reasons a page back. I would have to wait for pieguy to come back I guess.
Mara
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Mara
Hey guys what's going on this mafia thr-

OH SNAP

I am keeping my vote for now. I don't see anything wrong with pieguy - he should just tell us about his gut feeling.
KRZY
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KRZY

LunaticMara wrote:

Hey guys what's going on this mafia thr-

OH SNAP

VOTE LUNATICMARA
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
just kidding actually

Unvote
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Sorry for the triple post but

bmin11 wrote:

The way I recommand you to play

bmin11 wrote:

recommand

bmin11 wrote:

recommand
Really now bmin
pieguyn
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pieguyn
@LunaticMara: From what I've seen, everything that's happened so far has just seemed like town members arguing with each other. It doesn't seem to me like anyone has any behind-the-scenes plan of some sort (which if they were mafia, it would be to get Salvage or someone else lynched). Because of this, I'm inclined to say that inactive players are more likely to be mafia, and I singled out DxS because he was posting just a bit as if not to get called out for not posting. It's just a gut feeling but it's the best I can do >.<

Salvage did roleclaim tracker/watcher, so I don't want to vote him for now, but the problem is tracker and watcher aren't used that often so even if it was fake no one could call him out on it. IMO, the best thing to do is to leave him for now and lynch someone else, and if we get some contradictions later we can go back and lynch him.

@bmin: I only did that because LS was taking it seriously, when it was mostly a joke :?

However, FoS adam2046, Wojjan
Wanting to lynch Salvage even though it's not the right move (and with adam, he specifically said it). I have a gut feeling Wojjan is town, not so much on adam2046 though. adam2046 has also been rather inactive (compared to others), which fits what I said before.
Rolled
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Rolled

Salvage wrote:

realize that a lynch on me it's not a good option (also to point out that Wojjan suggested that) since i roleclaimed an important pro-town role ..
This is exactly what makes your claim so hard to believe. The only pro-town vibe you're supplying is your roleclaim, which you have very blatantly acknowledged to be a power-role. Obviously WIFOM, but if you were mafia on the verge of being lynched, you'd roleclaim a power role.

Also, your wording of the above sentence is what is pushing me over the edge. "Since I roleclaimed an important pro-town role. Rather than "I am/have an important pro-town role." I know it's minor, but putting together all the pieces, I'm confident enough to Vote: Salvage

I've considered letting Salvage live until D2 but honestly, how credible will his information be? I'm confident that the information we get from his death will be more credible and useful than anything he can supply D2.

Not to mention like half the posts in this thread have been from Salvage, and 1/8th of Salvage's posts have been informative.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
if you read my entire post i'm stating things since the town point of view, so of course i won't say "i AM a pro-town role" cause you guys do not know that for sure ..
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

Rolled wrote:

I've considered letting Salvage live until D2 but honestly, how credible will his information be? I'm confident that the information we get from his death will be more credible and useful than anything he can supply D2.

Not to mention like half the posts in this thread have been from Salvage, and 1/8th of Salvage's posts have been informative.


also how my death could give any information AT ALL? you guys will be back at square one loosing an important informative role without any need of doing so, cause there are so many ways to proove my self town that it doesn't even make sense to lynch me now.


oh and my post haven't been informative? i already gave 2 mafia member names, that people doesn't listen to me cause it's my 3rd game doesn't mean that my post weren't informative.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
We won't be at square one. You're already forgetting about investigators.
Salvage
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Joined January 2010
Salvage
i'm one of them and you're gonna lynch me in that situation.



anyways i'm goin out now, back in a few hours guys ..
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Hmm... after doing some research, I came across this.

There's nothing about infiltrators.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
akrolsmir is replacing Backfire.
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
Hi guys, I'm reading the thirty pages of stuff right now. Would it help if I claimed?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
No, and that could make you as suspicious as Salvage.
akrolsmir
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Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Alright, so I don't think we really need to lynch Salvage just yet- just leave him for the scum without protection. If the most useful aux role known so far is left alive, I would think he's lying and then we could lynch him tomorrow. Of course this is subject to as much WIFOM as you like, because Mafia could choose not to kill him just so we'd lynch him, but either way we can worry about it tomorrow, when we have aux results that could help sort it out.

Pieguy, I know that you're always gutting people, so that may not be a scumtell but I don't think it's productive either way. As town it's not likely to be right, and as scum it gives you an excuse to vote without an excuse. If you suspect someone without real reason, perhaps keep it to yourself or ISO that person to see if you can find an explanation.

LS seems quiet, I don't know if having nothing to say is a town excuse to be overlooked for the NK or a scum excuse lurk. Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim. FoS, in any case

Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

akrolsmir wrote:

Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim.
Pretty much. I've already stated that I think both pieguy and Salvage are potentially scum (Alongside DxS for doing nothing but correcting the votecount after NoHItter posted it), but I'm not the type to lynch a claimed power role on D1, and I have certain suspicions about DxS's role.

As for pieguy, I'm just not sure enough to vote him yet. Other than that, no there's been nothing new that really stands out. Not much different than D1 any other game at the moment.
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