Salvage why are you waiting on LS specifically?
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Yeah, I'll just leave this vote in here.
Vote: Salvage
Vote: Salvage
NOW it's been 48 hours.LunaticMara wrote:
@Mod, prod Lilac?
Prod Lilac
Do it, I dare you.
/prods Lilac
Challenge accepted.
- Got any opinions to share?
Challenge accepted.
- Got any opinions to share?
Sure.
My opinion is the general players don't have one. At least what I can see.
My opinion is the general players don't have one. At least what I can see.
Why do you think so?
I'd like to know why Mara rushed my prod to begin with. Why not I prod DxS? He's been gone as long as I have almost have, so what do you achieve?
Salvage is going all over the place with his accusations, fishie's doing...something of an unknown nature and everyone is kinda neutral... I might have missed a few people though.
Anyway, back on to Salvage and Swifttail like I said earlier. Swifty is intent on bringing everyone to the topic, I don't see that as a scum move unless he wants more attention on himself but who knows, he probably just doesn't know that. Salvage, on the other hand, is intent on LS on being Mafia...why though, I actually want to know.
Salvage is going all over the place with his accusations, fishie's doing...something of an unknown nature and everyone is kinda neutral... I might have missed a few people though.
Anyway, back on to Salvage and Swifttail like I said earlier. Swifty is intent on bringing everyone to the topic, I don't see that as a scum move unless he wants more attention on himself but who knows, he probably just doesn't know that. Salvage, on the other hand, is intent on LS on being Mafia...why though, I actually want to know.
Credit to Rolled for his ISO work, brilliant as always.
Because I wanted to hear some opinions from you. Also yeah, prod DxS.Lilac wrote:
I'd like to know why Mara rushed my prod to begin with.
Lilac: I'm always about timing, so if someone didn't post as often, then yes, I would keep an eye on their last post.
In other words, I am also waiting before I vote...
...GAAAH.
...GAAAH.
..might be why you're not posting as often.
No, it's just that I'm working 9 to 5 these school holidays..
..and once I get home, it's all...ick.
..and once I get home, it's all...ick.
Asleep, and also not really having anything to say. I've already stated my opinions.Salvage wrote:
LS where are yoooooooouuu
Unvote
because I never did before, and I need some time to think about things. School + work forever btw, haven't been posting as much as I would like to.
because I never did before, and I need some time to think about things. School + work forever btw, haven't been posting as much as I would like to.
Rolled wrote:
Salvage why are you waiting on LS specifically?
Cause you already posted your opinions as Wojjan and Lyby did and i actually think that you and them are the only oens that could come with a good plan, and hopefully not all of you 4 are mafia, so i wanted to hear what does LS think it's the best thing to do right now but well.
Way to discredit people! Isn't it, Salvage?
And FoS: Mashley, LunaticMara
You guys went to vote for Salvage even though we had quite amount of discussion and a plan. Is there a reason why you can't wait for a night? Or are you that sure Salvage is a mafia, even risking the chance of lynching a possible Watcher/Tracker? To me, you guys seem like trying to blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
And FoS: Mashley, LunaticMara
You guys went to vote for Salvage even though we had quite amount of discussion and a plan. Is there a reason why you can't wait for a night? Or are you that sure Salvage is a mafia, even risking the chance of lynching a possible Watcher/Tracker? To me, you guys seem like trying to blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
I really don't think Salvage is neither easy or scummy at all.bmin11 wrote:
blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
It would look like that if people only reads the last few posts and I think that's what they are doing. Randomly pops out -> vote -> vanishWojjan wrote:
I really don't think Salvage is neither easy or scummy at all.bmin11 wrote:
blend in by votting an easy and generally scummy looking target without a clear reasoning nor actually focussing on the game.
^ saying he only read the last few posts
and yeah Salvage thinks pretty highly of himself since that WWG win that was basically handed to him by retarded play. Hell, I won too so I guess I cant complain, I just find the differences from this game and WWG funny. That being said I dont think its worth lynching him until we know more info tomorrow. He is also acting considerably different from WWG (meta) but he was scum in that game so its not necessarily a bad thing.
and yeah Salvage thinks pretty highly of himself since that WWG win that was basically handed to him by retarded play. Hell, I won too so I guess I cant complain, I just find the differences from this game and WWG funny. That being said I dont think its worth lynching him until we know more info tomorrow. He is also acting considerably different from WWG (meta) but he was scum in that game so its not necessarily a bad thing.
As far as plans go, there really isn't much to be made with the information we have atm. Combining our two known aux roles into something strategic could result in far too much WIFOM shit involving roleblocks, mafia not killing, shit like that.Salvage wrote:
Cause you already posted your opinions as Wojjan and Lyby did and i actually think that you and them are the only oens that could come with a good plan
At this point in time all I can suggest is Salvage target whoever, and KRZY target somebody else. I'm bad at D1 in general, though.
Mmm yeah that wasn't though through very well unvote
considering my suspicions... i found the whole Backfire bandwagon interesting, and also thr amount of people who defended. that whole thing didnt really stick and most unvoted, so theres still a possibility Backfire is mafia. I also have some suspicion regarding adam, mainly because of the "forced roleclaim" shit. still not voting yet though. thoughs anyone?
also on the subject of Backfire,
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=63167&p=1058787#p1058787
this post was made after the bandwagon, and he also made another post after that which was stupid and not at all serious. i would link it but im on my phone and its a pain in the ass.
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=63167&p=1058787#p1058787
this post was made after the bandwagon, and he also made another post after that which was stupid and not at all serious. i would link it but im on my phone and its a pain in the ass.
I actually think adam and Backfire are town. or at least ther play styles fit with the games where they've been town so far.
triple posting...
i dont know if my link worked properly, the post im refering to is when he says Ah, well or something after being voted.
i dont know if my link worked properly, the post im refering to is when he says Ah, well or something after being voted.
I just reread and it really changed my opinion on stuff in hindsight.
Actually I really don't like how Salvage has been playing so far. This whole what's the plan attitude hits me like a farce to find out what will be going on tonight to know for sure if there's any chance it'd out him as if he's fishing for more roleclaims to figure out how to thwart the night or something. Salvage has mostly just been discussing who'll be on who tonight and painting fishie over and over in his spare time.
combine that with the fact that he was so eager to step on the brakes on the Backfire BW there's a fair chance they're both mafia.
Also there's the danger of rerouting a lynch to yet another player, having them roleclaim a PR, and continuing until we hit a townie and the entire town is outed. Right now, I'm not liking Salvage, and I think I missed it in the rush of "unvoting for the power role" thing.
Vote: Salvage because a roleclaim alone doesn't cover his scumplay.
Actually I really don't like how Salvage has been playing so far. This whole what's the plan attitude hits me like a farce to find out what will be going on tonight to know for sure if there's any chance it'd out him as if he's fishing for more roleclaims to figure out how to thwart the night or something. Salvage has mostly just been discussing who'll be on who tonight and painting fishie over and over in his spare time.
combine that with the fact that he was so eager to step on the brakes on the Backfire BW there's a fair chance they're both mafia.
Also there's the danger of rerouting a lynch to yet another player, having them roleclaim a PR, and continuing until we hit a townie and the entire town is outed. Right now, I'm not liking Salvage, and I think I missed it in the rush of "unvoting for the power role" thing.
Vote: Salvage because a roleclaim alone doesn't cover his scumplay.
FAKEDIT: If Salvage flips scum I reserve the right to repeatedly scream I TOLD YOU SO and vote Backfire.
mkay so if you guys lynch me today i'm gonna go and rape you all .. cause i'm really a spy infiltrator.
This happens every game. When somebody who has roleclaimed, and is still on the verge of getting lynched, there's always a simple post such as "but I'm realllllllllllllly x role." Usually they're pretty easy to read whether or not they're telling the truth, and this post is rubbing the wrong way.Salvage wrote:
mkay so if you guys lynch me today i'm gonna go and rape you all .. cause i'm really a spy infiltrator.
The absolute only thing preventing me from voting Salvage is his role claim. All other signs point to yes.
Vote: Salvage
are you serious dude? with 19 people there could be like 5 or 4 mafia and you guys are willing to lynch a possible watcher/tracker D1? with the ability to proove me town in like 2 days or even 1 depending on how things go.
How many games have you played invisible btw, Salvage?
All of my games (3 so far with this one) .. started on the middle of WWV.
alternatively, we could lynch you because youre annoying as fuck. if you turn up mafia we have basically confirmed fishie town. then i vote backfire or adam. i doubt you're smart enough to plan anything elaborate on day 1 anyways.
if you turn up town, were all richer for the experience because youre dead.
if you dont understand, i dont like you.
if you turn up town, were all richer for the experience because youre dead.
if you dont understand, i dont like you.
i dont like you
quality interpersonal relationshipsfoulcoon wrote:
i dont like you
Foulcoon did you really just un-invisible you noob. I swear you were invisible for the past 30 minutes at least.
-Rolled says invisibility is scummy
-Foulcoon goes un-invis
-WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
-Rolled says invisibility is scummy
-Foulcoon goes un-invis
-WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
What's the vote status at the moment?
no, just switched from phone to iPad. my data connction was shit so i got on wifi.Rolled wrote:
Foulcoon did you really just un-invisible you noob. I swear you were invisible for the past 30 minutes at least.
-Rolled says invisibility is scummy
-Foulcoon goes un-invis
-WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
Wait, what did I do? I just think salvage is mafia. That makes me mafia, wojjan? ;-;
i think salvage was one of the first to defend you after you had basically thrown in the towel
otherwise i dont really know why wojjan specifically is suspicious
otherwise i dont really know why wojjan specifically is suspicious
Well, being D1, there's a high probability that the person we lynch is going to flip town. But to be honest, I have suspicions that Salvage and someone else are mafia, but it wouldn't work if we lynch Salvage right now.
EBWODP: What I'm implying is that our original plan will be wasted if we simply vote Salvage off now.
so you think salvage is mafia, but its a bad idea to lynch him? doesnt really make sense. i havent seen a good plan yet, mainly because each plan has already been destroyed by people in the thread describing specifically how to fuck it up.
True, but the reason why I say this is because investigators can use this plan to check and see if either one of them is lying.
...then again, if we vote Salvage, we can still make an attempt at getting a read on KRZY tonight with an investigation.
...then again, if we vote Salvage, we can still make an attempt at getting a read on KRZY tonight with an investigation.
Our initial plan involves bmin dying if Salvage is mafia. If we lynch him right now, because his behavior is pointing abundantly towards scummy, we save a recruiter. Sometimes on D1 you just go with it. They could be town, but that learns us a lot from the people on the bandwagon, more if there's a sensor around.
sensors are so broken, i doubt there is one.
I dont remember him defending me. But even if he did, that doesent forbid him from being on my list. :/
KRZY not bmin, and yea i didn't get your point like at all .. seems like the most useless idea i ever heard.Wojjan wrote:
Our initial plan involves bmin dying if Salvage is mafia. If we lynch him right now, because his behavior is pointing abundantly towards scummy, we save a recruiter. Sometimes on D1 you just go with it. They could be town, but that learns us a lot from the people on the bandwagon, more if there's a sensor around.
also that "salvage it's annoying" thing it's so anti-town it hurts my eyes .. if i wouldn't have done what i did this would be a blind D1 to go trough, so since we seem to be going to pick the worst choice right now i'm gonna try to avoid posting cause it's starting to bother me.
And Wojjan meant by KRZY, not me if anyone is getting confused
And I still think it's a good idea to have a plan. Mafia is not the only side who can manipulate behind the scene. It's better then just throwing of actions and cross our fingers to get a result.
And I still think it's a good idea to have a plan. Mafia is not the only side who can manipulate behind the scene. It's better then just throwing of actions and cross our fingers to get a result.
...I don't think the mod got the prod. It's not showing up on the OP. If he did... well, this post is useless.
Prod: DxS
Prod: DxS
Salvage trying to self preserve and acting as if he is the best thing since sliced bread. (I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE FISHIE MAN BUT DID YOU LISTEN TO ME MAN? NOOOOOOOO)
Foulcoon and Wojjan acting as if giving mafia info to act on day 1 is fine. Also Foulcoon told me to shut up, so he's a big poopyhead.
KRZY roleclaiming because... why the hell did you roleclaim?
Fishie, well... yeah. fishie.
Rest of the thread "No opinions right now."
Everyone listen to Wojjan.
In what way does my play style fit games where I'm town?
Foulcoon and Wojjan acting as if giving mafia info to act on day 1 is fine. Also Foulcoon told me to shut up, so he's a big poopyhead.
KRZY roleclaiming because... why the hell did you roleclaim?
Fishie, well... yeah. fishie.
Rest of the thread "No opinions right now."
Wojjan wrote:
I actually think adam and Backfire are town. or at least ther play styles fit with the games where they've been town so far.
In what way does my play style fit games where I'm town?
I actually don't recognize adam's style as he always gets NK'd on N1 or N2.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (4) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon
fishie (3) Lybydose, KRZY, Salvage
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (10) - Rantai, Lilac, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu, Mashley, bmin11
Jaqennn has asked for a replacement.
DeathxShinigami has been prodded.
Edit: Fixed
Salvage (4) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon
fishie (3) Lybydose, KRZY, Salvage
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (10) - Rantai, Lilac, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu, Mashley, bmin11
Jaqennn has asked for a replacement.
DeathxShinigami has been prodded.
Edit: Fixed
@Host
Numbers are wrong for Fishie and Salvage.
Numbers are wrong for Fishie and Salvage.
So what should we do, if we find Salvage as scum at D2?
And yes, fuck my Engrish.
And triple post:
Same question - but replace Salvage with FisHie.
Same question - but replace Salvage with FisHie.
I don't have any plans for Day 2 so far.
Yeah, cuz we don't know what we're doing for D1 yet.fishie wrote:
I don't have any plans for Day 2 so far.
My gut actually doesn't say LunaticMara anymore. unvote
While I agree Salvage and fishie are suspicious, I have a gut feeling they're not mafia. My gut now says DxS, so vote: DeathxShinigami
Once D2 comes around I'll come up with something more reliable than just a gut vote
While I agree Salvage and fishie are suspicious, I have a gut feeling they're not mafia. My gut now says DxS, so vote: DeathxShinigami
Once D2 comes around I'll come up with something more reliable than just a gut vote
What specifically made your gut change? Is it bipolar?
Actually, going to Vote: pieguy. The gut charade looks kind of forced, and gut votes are pretty much just a waste as nobody has the same gut as you, and you made zero attempt to explain why your gut is leaning in one direction or another.
Actually, going to Vote: pieguy. The gut charade looks kind of forced, and gut votes are pretty much just a waste as nobody has the same gut as you, and you made zero attempt to explain why your gut is leaning in one direction or another.
This gut thing again, on top of that voting a lurker aka easy target.
I view voting for lurkers to be something a mafia would do simply because they are such an easy target to take out and yeah gut, you might as well exclaim 'random vote!'
Right now I'm comfortable with either a pieguy or Salvage lynch, leaning Salvage but that might be me still seeing red from the other game.
I view voting for lurkers to be something a mafia would do simply because they are such an easy target to take out and yeah gut, you might as well exclaim 'random vote!'
Right now I'm comfortable with either a pieguy or Salvage lynch, leaning Salvage but that might be me still seeing red from the other game.
Salvage - Lynched D1 (Mafia Jack-Of-All-Trades)
Not bad, actually...Should have made him a JOAT in Touhou. His character would allow it too.
Also, I don't think that's something that requires a vote, just a suspicion Rolled.
Vote: Mashley. Conformity sucks. You're in the middle of all this somehow, posting yet providing just as little.
Not bad, actually...Should have made him a JOAT in Touhou. His character would allow it too.
Also, I don't think that's something that requires a vote, just a suspicion Rolled.
Vote: Mashley. Conformity sucks. You're in the middle of all this somehow, posting yet providing just as little.
Don't go Rantai!
Don't make me call you, I will do it.
Don't make me call you, I will do it.
Wait what.
You say you usually don't have much time to do discussions since everybody posts when you sleep...
...You can always discuss with me... >w<
...You can always discuss with me... >w<
Romantic drama!
I don't see pieguy's gut feelings that scummy, but they are pretty weird indeed.
I don't see pieguy's gut feelings that scummy, but they are pretty weird indeed.
Pieguy has seemed weird to me for a while now, can't really tell why though.
Oh I see. Well just for reference I am here for another 6 hours.
pieguy allways did that gut thing d1 on every single game, i didn't like his Backfire 'random' vote at the beginning of the game tho ..
i'm starting to think you guys should lynch me to learn how to not make stupid decisions also.
i'm starting to think you guys should lynch me to learn how to not make stupid decisions also.
I am a liar, I have been told that my internet is going to be cut tonight (due to moving)
Best I can do is posting tomorrow afternoon (AEST).
Best I can do is posting tomorrow afternoon (AEST).
also i found this a little odd :
FoS : Wojjan, adam2046
goin to sleep now cya guys.
and then wojjan didn't say a word even with the RV already over ..adam2046 wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Wojjan
FoS : Wojjan, adam2046
goin to sleep now cya guys.
What?Salvage wrote:
also i found this a little odd :and then wojjan didn't say a word even with the RV already over ..adam2046 wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Wojjan
FoS : Wojjan, adam2046
Maybe try thinking about why I would vote Wojjan. I'm sure the mafia genius Salvage can figure it out.
And does Wojjan have to respond to a single vote? Maybe Wojjan should have roleclaimed, I'm sure that would have worked out great.
Salvage wrote:
i'm starting to think you guys should lynch me to learn how to not make stupid decisions also.
Salvage wrote:
also , don't make me roleclaim d1 guys , seriously?
Yet he roleclaimed anyway.
Funny.
Funny.
Topic Starter
Backfire has asked for a replacement.
adam2046 wrote:
What?
Maybe try thinking about why I would vote Wojjan. I'm sure the mafia genius Salvage can figure it out.
And does Wojjan have to respond to a single vote? Maybe Wojjan should have roleclaimed, I'm sure that would have worked out great.
oooooooh, did i hit mafia here? yay!
vote : adam2046
come on people, if adam flips out mafia then wojjan it's mafia and i'm town .. better option for d1, if somehow you guys do not listen to me and lynch me today ofc i'll flip town and you'll lynch adam tommorrow kthx.
FoS: DxS
Gets prodded and posts just to correct votecount numbers.
Gets prodded and posts just to correct votecount numbers.
No. Vote Salvage harder.Salvage wrote:
ooooooh, did i hit mafia here? yay!
Keep trying though.
incidentially though adam that vote (and the past post but that's after the fact) is what made the meta for you work out town in my head. I remember LS' big game where I was a false tree stump, and the playstyle you had there (even though the game was ridiculous) fits the bill.
The gut votting is something pieguy does every single mafia game, but I agree that vote is practically yelling "Lets bandwagon that lurker he didn't even responded to the prod ahhh". The other thing I'm feeling uncomfortable was this quote
Vote: pieguy1372
P.S. Why am I bringing this up now? Because we were too busy discussing over Salvage's guilt and I totally forgot about it.
You are implying your HoS to not serious at all and you weren't being suspicious of LS (which the claim itself doesn't make sense to start with). It seems to me pieguy really, I mean really by really not wanting any kinds of suspicion over him. He basically overreacted to such early suspicion and I'm getting a scum read from thispieguy1372 wrote:
2. That wasn't a serious HoS
3. That wasn't a serious HoS
Vote: pieguy1372
P.S. Why am I bringing this up now? Because we were too busy discussing over Salvage's guilt and I totally forgot about it.
And Salvage, I would have voted you multiple times already if it wasn't for your Tracker/Watcher claim =ㅅ=... This is really painful
yea, now that we're probabbly not even gonna do what i suggested i'm gonna die anyways N1 cause i just got 2 mafia, but whatever.
OKAY SUPPLY A GOOD REASONING. THAT'S ALL IT REALLY REQUIRES US TO TAKE YOUR POSTS SERIOUSLY
Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
that made so little sense. Not bothering with a vote out of nowhere means I know he's maf?Salvage wrote:
Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
A single vote is not as influential as you think, specially on a game where we have 19 players. I think you are drawing hasty conclusion.Salvage wrote:
Wojjan reacted like if he'd know adam would flip mafia so he would be next .. so now i'm pretty sure they both are mafia, there you have my good reasoning i'd higly appreciate you take my post seriously and follow me now, since that's a way to proove myself also if there is a smart doctor to save me n1.
P.S. Taking you post seriously doesn't necessarly means I'm agreeing with you. Atleast, it was good to know your thoughts. Just for advice, always have your reasonings with you whenever you are accusing someone. It really makes you look more town than a "Vote. Aha! you must be mafia" posts.
cool then wojjan i guess u won't have any problem voting for adam then?
Now I feel bad for being ignoredbmin11 wrote:
A single vote is not as influential as you think
why ignored? people read this thread and hopefully will realize that i'm right and follow me too atleast in this, it's pretty much obvious right now that wojjan it's mafia also so adam or wojjan being lynched it's fine for me.
you really don't need to say so four times, we read the thread. We got your FoS the first time.
The way I recommand you to play is to counter argue whatever you think it's wrong. You can't just simply read and ignore the post without an input if you disagree to the post. What it really does is hurting the town if you stop discussing with other people.
Or did you choose to only listen to LS, Rolled, Wojjan, Lyby, and foulcoon's posts? Okay that's good I'll vote for you if that's the case
Or did you choose to only listen to LS, Rolled, Wojjan, Lyby, and foulcoon's posts? Okay that's good I'll vote for you if that's the case
That's not the case and i never mentioned foulcoon in the post, in fact i said i forgot to put you there .. that group of people it's the people i just expected to come with good plans, not the people i 'listen' i read everything and pay attention to everything, and that's why i'm asking you to trust me in this one ..
since i'm leaning towards trusting you're town here, for the rest of the people who reads this, realize that a lynch on me it's not a good option (also to point out that Wojjan suggested that) since i roleclaimed an important pro-town role ..
it could be a lie? sure, but what if it's not and you end up lynching a good role? i can be prooven telling te truth in no time anyways, plus i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia, i already stated why i think that and wojjan just came here to solidify my toughts about it, so since i already told everything about it i'd love if you guys really want to win to trust me.
since i'm leaning towards trusting you're town here, for the rest of the people who reads this, realize that a lynch on me it's not a good option (also to point out that Wojjan suggested that) since i roleclaimed an important pro-town role ..
it could be a lie? sure, but what if it's not and you end up lynching a good role? i can be prooven telling te truth in no time anyways, plus i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia, i already stated why i think that and wojjan just came here to solidify my toughts about it, so since i already told everything about it i'd love if you guys really want to win to trust me.
Well we already know that's not true at all.Salvage wrote:
i read everything and pay attention to everything
Almost 100%Salvage wrote:
i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia
It's fucking day 1. You are not a mafia genius. Stop digging yourself a hole.
I don't want someone who claimed to be lynched day 1, but you're certainly not helping yourself with your attitude and actions. I want Wojjan lynched, more than you do, but you're making it extremely hard for me to not vote you instead entirely out of distaste.
For srs.