Dunno if I trust Kiddo so much yet. Still a few things that don't make much sense.
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So many lurkers so little time. Kiddo-kun, how about you give us your view of events, then?
Meanwhile, unvote.
LadySuburu, you've been awfully quiet.
Meanwhile, unvote.
LadySuburu, you've been awfully quiet.
Can't think of anything to say. I'm reading but all I see is "Hey claim. You're scum for asking to claim. No you. Let's vote this guy instead. No wait, him. No, him! Nevermind, that guy."akrolsmir wrote:
So many lurkers so little time. Kiddo-kun, how about you give us your view of events, then?
Meanwhile, unvote.
LadySuburu, you've been awfully quiet.
Vote hop central.
good observation, I wasn't even aware he/she is playingakrolsmir wrote:
So many lurkers so little time. Kiddo-kun, how about you give us your view of events, then?
Meanwhile, unvote.
LadySuburu, you've been awfully quiet.
come out now
EDIT: mfw ninja'd
I know right, I got convinced to join the bandwagon and then they just flip it back who I was voting on to begin with.LadySuburu wrote:
Can't think of anything to say. I'm reading but all I see is "Hey claim. You're scum for asking to claim. No you. Let's vote this guy instead. No wait, him. No, him! Nevermind, that guy."
Vote hop central.
zzz
unvote, vote Querahza
I'll get to you on that, I have to go with my mom somewhere.akrolsmir wrote:
Kiddo-kun, how about you give us your view of events, then?
Likely story mister! No im just kidding.Kiddo-Kun wrote:
I'll get to you on that, I have to go with my mom somewhere.akrolsmir wrote:
Kiddo-kun, how about you give us your view of events, then?
sigh
We're getting nowhere fast. Lovely~
Well I think the only option here is to lynch a lurker and Q seem to be the popular bandwagon sooo vote Quaraezha. Day 2 will get the scumhunt going again.
Vote: Q
@mod: votecount please
@mod: votecount please
So what? We're all voting Q because he hasn't posted/lurked?
I was ninja'd by a minute difference. I just didn't find getting ninja'd would be a good reason to unvote right away even though it would look like a bandwagon vote.Rolled wrote:
Bmin, for hopping in Two's back pocket with no reasoning of his own.
Anyway, sorry for being away for awhile (and I'll again for next 4 hours or so). Political Lynch may sound bad, but for now I have no particular favour in lynching.
Editted for failed English
Topic Starter
Deadline is in 4:44 hours.
Votecount:
Quaraezha (6) - Wojjan, Two, Chris, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (2) - Lybydose, Backfire
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - Kiddo-kun
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, akrolsmir, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch.
Votecount:
Quaraezha (6) - Wojjan, Two, Chris, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (2) - Lybydose, Backfire
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
JInxyjem (1) - Kiddo-kun
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, akrolsmir, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch.
pieguy1372 wrote:
Deadline is in 4:44 hours.
oooooooooooooh
oh wait you guys are westerners :P the number 4 has the same pronunciation as 'death' in Chinese or sth
Aaaaaand I'm back.
Everyone seem pretty normal in my book. I don't know why you guys are jumping at Q for. Did he not say he does not have any internet at home in the pas- WAAAAAIT! Why the fuck did you sign up then?
Everyone seem pretty normal in my book. I don't know why you guys are jumping at Q for. Did he not say he does not have any internet at home in the pas- WAAAAAIT! Why the fuck did you sign up then?
Oh what?
Well at least I got up in a reasonable amount of time for once.
Anyway, a Q lynch now? Well I guess that makes more sense than a KRZY lynch at the moment unless he has something to say within the next 4 hours.
Also hi Backfire~
Well at least I got up in a reasonable amount of time for once.
Anyway, a Q lynch now? Well I guess that makes more sense than a KRZY lynch at the moment unless he has something to say within the next 4 hours.
Also hi Backfire~
Japanese too. Or so I heard.KRZY wrote:
oooooooooooooh
oh wait you guys are westernersthe number 4 has the same pronunciation as 'death' in Chinese or sth
Fos: last 3 people voting Q especially if he flips town, which is likely IMO.
Vote: JInxyjem
who wants to bet kiddo doesn't post before d1 is over?
empty promises~
empty promises~
he did post
course he didn't post anything useful
course he didn't post anything useful
I wanna take you up on that bet.
Oh look, I won.
Oh look, I won.
yet you prove again you just refuse to post anything useful and have been here the whole time
you're keeping my vote for real now
unvote, vote Kiddo
you're keeping my vote for real now
unvote, vote Kiddo
^ notice how I said when you say peoples names they show up?
That's the second time Kiddo's done it.
they are lurking and just refusing to contribute
That's the second time Kiddo's done it.
they are lurking and just refusing to contribute
nevermind I just overreacted so hard
didn't even realize he posted 20 minutes before me gg
unvote~
post something useful thx
didn't even realize he posted 20 minutes before me gg
unvote~
post something useful thx
ok quad post but whatever
vote: Kiddo
you've had time to say something contructive
vote: Kiddo
you've had time to say something contructive
vote chris for being retarded
unvote
vote bmin
unvote
vote bmin
why throw away your vote on someone you know isn't possible to lynch
I find bmin more suspicious than any lurker.
I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for anybody else when bmin is the most suspicious in my mind.
Topic Starter
Deadline is in 1:17 hours.
Votecount:
Quaraezha (5) - Wojjan, Two, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (3) - Lybydose, Backfire, Chris
JInxyjem (2) - Kiddo-kun, akrolsmir
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch.
Votecount:
Quaraezha (5) - Wojjan, Two, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (3) - Lybydose, Backfire, Chris
JInxyjem (2) - Kiddo-kun, akrolsmir
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch.
So uh when it's night time we don't post right? And how long is night time?
Topic Starter
Night lasts 24 hours, and you can't post in the thread.
pls vote kiddo they aren't posting hours after they said they got homeTwo wrote:
hurry and end the day
thx
Topic Starter
Deadline is in 18 minutes.
Votecount:
Quaraezha (4) - Wojjan, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (4) - Lybydose, Backfire, Chris, Two
JInxyjem (2) - Kiddo-kun, akrolsmir
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch. Note that Quaraezha is ahead of Kiddo-kun even though they're tied!
Votecount:
Quaraezha (4) - Wojjan, Mashley, Salvage, KRZY
Kiddo-kun (4) - Lybydose, Backfire, Chris, Two
JInxyjem (2) - Kiddo-kun, akrolsmir
Backfire (1) - JInxyjem
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Lybydose (1) - animask
bmin11 (1) - Rolled
Not voting: Quaraezha, LadySuburu, bmin11, Raging Bull
10 votes are required to lynch. Note that Quaraezha is ahead of Kiddo-kun even though they're tied!
Topic Starter
day 1 is now over
Lynch scene coming in a few minutes.
Lynch scene coming in a few minutes.
Topic Starter
Hakurei Shrine
It was the first day of the Hakurei Barrier breaking. Everyone who was there casted their vote on who was most likely to break the barrier...However, it seems everyone thought that Kirisame Marisa was the one. I mean, she causes trouble and all, especially stealing stuff and not returning them. (Most people don't know why, it's a pretty legit reason too.)
"No way I could break the barrier, ze!" yelled Marisa. "Why would I break the barrier which holds Gensokyo? That's absurd."
They didn't care. She had to go.
For this occasion, they called upon Okuu. After all, she was quite adept at burning,, and otherwise destroying, things. She readied her arm cannon, and counted down: 3, 2, 1...
Quaraezha - Kirisame Marisa (Town Lover+1-shot Strongman) - Lynched D1
Later, a few people noticed that Alice Margatroid was missing as well. Everyone then decided to search for Alice. Eventually, they reached her house, and when they opened the door they found something shocking. Alice was hanging from a rope attached to the ceiling, with a note on the floor. Further inspection revealed it to be a suicide note.
animask - Alice Margatroid (Mafia Lover) - role-required death D1
It is now Night 1. Please send all night actions to either me or Lilac within 24 hours. All actions are resolved using this order: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... Resolution
It was the first day of the Hakurei Barrier breaking. Everyone who was there casted their vote on who was most likely to break the barrier...However, it seems everyone thought that Kirisame Marisa was the one. I mean, she causes trouble and all, especially stealing stuff and not returning them. (Most people don't know why, it's a pretty legit reason too.)
"No way I could break the barrier, ze!" yelled Marisa. "Why would I break the barrier which holds Gensokyo? That's absurd."
They didn't care. She had to go.
For this occasion, they called upon Okuu. After all, she was quite adept at burning,, and otherwise destroying, things. She readied her arm cannon, and counted down: 3, 2, 1...
Quaraezha - Kirisame Marisa (Town Lover+1-shot Strongman) - Lynched D1
Later, a few people noticed that Alice Margatroid was missing as well. Everyone then decided to search for Alice. Eventually, they reached her house, and when they opened the door they found something shocking. Alice was hanging from a rope attached to the ceiling, with a note on the floor. Further inspection revealed it to be a suicide note.
animask - Alice Margatroid (Mafia Lover) - role-required death D1
It is now Night 1. Please send all night actions to either me or Lilac within 24 hours. All actions are resolved using this order: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... Resolution
whoops :V
As long as nobody finds my secret stash of gunpowder. I've been smoking that for years! Oh wait--
Topic Starter
When everyone awakened, they immediately noticed that something was wrong. Not only was Murasa Minamitsu missing, but someone else was missing as well. The second missing person, Patchouli Knowledge, was rather natural, because she mostly just hides away in her library anyway. However, everyone could sense that something bad had happened to her too.
Everyone tracked down Murasa's Palanquin Ship, where they figured they would have the best chance at finding Murasa. When they finally found it, it seemed to have been broken into. They entered and found Murasa dead, as if she had just fainted. After more searching, they also found Patchouli, who was hidden in a dark corner of the ship. She appeared to have been killed the same way Murasa was.
Two - Murasa Minamitsu (Bus Driver) - Nightkilled N1
Mashley - Patchouli Knowledge (Hider) - Nightkilled N1
It is now Day 2. The deadline is Tuesday, 05:11 GMT.
Everyone tracked down Murasa's Palanquin Ship, where they figured they would have the best chance at finding Murasa. When they finally found it, it seemed to have been broken into. They entered and found Murasa dead, as if she had just fainted. After more searching, they also found Patchouli, who was hidden in a dark corner of the ship. She appeared to have been killed the same way Murasa was.
Two - Murasa Minamitsu (Bus Driver) - Nightkilled N1
Mashley - Patchouli Knowledge (Hider) - Nightkilled N1
It is now Day 2. The deadline is Tuesday, 05:11 GMT.
ok so what the hell is a town strongman
Sheer genius, Two. I'm guessing he swapped himself and someone else as part of his secret plan, and that person ended up getting targeted for the nk.
Town strongman = 1-shot vig strongman?
HoS: Raging Bull
He does make posts; none of them have any information at all. His votes consist of a RV and a bandwagon. It seems to me that he's avoiding analysis because he doesn't need to find out who scum are. He claims to have played before so the newbie card doesn't work.
Most noticeably, though, he makes a post an hour before the deadline and yet completely neglects to vote. Instead he pauses to find out how long of a night he has, presumably to decide on his night action.
Tell me, what were you doing last night?
Town strongman = 1-shot vig strongman?
HoS: Raging Bull
He does make posts; none of them have any information at all. His votes consist of a RV and a bandwagon. It seems to me that he's avoiding analysis because he doesn't need to find out who scum are. He claims to have played before so the newbie card doesn't work.
Most noticeably, though, he makes a post an hour before the deadline and yet completely neglects to vote. Instead he pauses to find out how long of a night he has, presumably to decide on his night action.
Tell me, what were you doing last night?
Bus drivers generally can't swap themselves, so I doubt he could have done something like that.
Still, if he was able to do so, KRZY's results would show that Two was bus driven.
Still, if he was able to do so, KRZY's results would show that Two was bus driven.
It depends on how pieguy set it up:
Anyways, that was the best explanation I could come up with for Two's insistence that he would not be shot given his role. Alternatively, he may have been trying to claim night immunity to prevent people from trying to nk him, but either way it didn't work out.MafiaWiki wrote:
Many, but not all, moderators do not allow Bus Drivers to self-target
I really doubt Two bus driven himself because Mashley's target would have swapped as well (unless Hider takes over Bus Driver priority wise).
FoS: bmin11, not reading the threadpieguy1372 wrote:
Hiding takes priority over busdriving. Hiders cannot be roleblocked, but bus drivers can.
Yes I thought I was missing something.bmin11 wrote:
(unless Hider takes over Bus Driver priority wise).
screw it, FoS is useless
vote: bmin11
vote: bmin11
Good point Vote: Raging Bull.Lybydose wrote:
screw it, FoS is useless
I'll let bmin off because I had overlooked pieguy's statement myself.
ok so KRZY was reading this thread but didn't say anything, despite supposedly being an aux role that could have useful information.
It takes less than 1 minute to repeat results from the night. Why no post?
unvote, vote: KRZY
It takes less than 1 minute to repeat results from the night. Why no post?
unvote, vote: KRZY
Lybydose wrote:
ok so KRZY was reading this thread but didn't say anything, despite supposedly being an aux role that could have useful information.
It takes less than 1 minute to repeat results from the night. Why no post?
unvote, vote: KRZY
LoL game started. Just died now so quickly copypastaing
"Two was tracked, killed, motivated, watched, and hidden behind
You also notice that Mashley was tracked, killed, motivated, and watched."
ok then
unvote
unvote
Well then, now all we need is a watcher to correlate the names.KRZY wrote:
"Two was tracked, killed, motivated, watched, and hidden behind
You also notice that Mashley was tracked, killed, motivated, and watched."
What's motivated? and the watcher would not be able to figure which one was the actual killer. Naming everyone may result in several lose in aux roles if we miss lynch or two. Should we still ask for the result?
Actually, nvm about the motivated bit. I understand what it is now (sorry for being such an ESL)
If the watcher results are revealed, the following would happen:
Watcher would have 5 names:
Mashley
Himself
Tracker
Motivator
Mafia
This would obviously expose the tracker and motivator. On the other hand, it also confirms four people (KRZY, watcher, tracker, motivator) as town and one person as mafia.
It's unlikely there would be a mislynch. First off, the the mafia can't really fakeclaim his way out of it. If he doesn't claim at all or claims something different, he's obviously mafia. If he claims watcher or tracker, it would be a duplicate claim of the real person, so we'd have it narrowed down to 50%. However, these roles could be easily confirmed the next night, so it would be best not to lynch either one until the next day. Under this scenario, it's likely the mafia would kill the watcher at night because he is the most powerful of the listed roles.
The alternative is to have no one claim and risk the watcher being randomly killed before revealing any information. On the other hand, it would allow the watcher to possibly gather more results while hidden, but tracker and watcher are both difficult roles to actually get useful results out of through luck.
Watcher would have 5 names:
Mashley
Himself
Tracker
Motivator
Mafia
This would obviously expose the tracker and motivator. On the other hand, it also confirms four people (KRZY, watcher, tracker, motivator) as town and one person as mafia.
It's unlikely there would be a mislynch. First off, the the mafia can't really fakeclaim his way out of it. If he doesn't claim at all or claims something different, he's obviously mafia. If he claims watcher or tracker, it would be a duplicate claim of the real person, so we'd have it narrowed down to 50%. However, these roles could be easily confirmed the next night, so it would be best not to lynch either one until the next day. Under this scenario, it's likely the mafia would kill the watcher at night because he is the most powerful of the listed roles.
The alternative is to have no one claim and risk the watcher being randomly killed before revealing any information. On the other hand, it would allow the watcher to possibly gather more results while hidden, but tracker and watcher are both difficult roles to actually get useful results out of through luck.
Ultimately I suppose it's up to the watcher as to whether he wants to claim or not. He's the most likely to die if this goes through.
Really difficult :S
Please tell me that's not an actual copypaste btw.
?akrolsmir wrote:
Please tell me that's not an actual copypaste btw.
oh right the watcher would have a 6th name - KRZY
I didn't vote for anyone specifically because I didn't want to hop on any bandwagon without any actual proof yet. And I only wanted to make sure we don't post in the thread during the night phase.
At least getting modkilled will verify that you're not lying about being a voyeur I guessKRZY wrote:
?akrolsmir wrote:
Please tell me that's not an actual copypaste btw.
.he's not lying
yeah yeah the point is I hope the mod lets him get off with a warning.
oh i can assure you, what i posted is not what it said on my night PM word for word.akrolsmir wrote:
yeah yeah the point is I hope the mod lets him get off with a warning.
pieguy can confirm.
of course, it contains all the same info.
The thing says "Quote", I think it means literally using the quote tags
ok then, back to lynching scum while the watcher makes up his/her mind about claiming.
Also, so many of your posts are like this, "Don't know what to say", "Not much to say". I get the feeling that you're scum looking to get by without contributing.
Keeping my vote where it is.
Because voting for KRZY totally wasn't bandwagoning right?Raging Bull wrote:
I didn't vote for anyone specifically because I didn't want to hop on any bandwagon without any actual proof yet.
Also, so many of your posts are like this, "Don't know what to say", "Not much to say". I get the feeling that you're scum looking to get by without contributing.
Keeping my vote where it is.
Wow really, bus driver was the "I won't die" guarantee?
Sigh.
Actually I think I agree with Lybydose's watcher claim idea. Assuming there are 4 mafia this game and there seemed to be no serial killers, confirming another mafia would be a very beneficial thing at the moment. We already have a confirmed voyeur and if I am not mistaken the tracker and the watcher will essentially give the same information unless we get some more public night action announcements (>.>).
From a practical viewpoint we stand to lose a (slightly?) redundant role in exchange for another mafia. No, I'm not ignoring the motivator, I just don't know how useful they are.
Also:
Vote: Salvage - I'm not allowing self doubt to hinder me again until something proves otherwise.
Sigh.
Actually I think I agree with Lybydose's watcher claim idea. Assuming there are 4 mafia this game and there seemed to be no serial killers, confirming another mafia would be a very beneficial thing at the moment. We already have a confirmed voyeur and if I am not mistaken the tracker and the watcher will essentially give the same information unless we get some more public night action announcements (>.>).
From a practical viewpoint we stand to lose a (slightly?) redundant role in exchange for another mafia. No, I'm not ignoring the motivator, I just don't know how useful they are.
Also:
Vote: Salvage - I'm not allowing self doubt to hinder me again until something proves otherwise.
Oh whoops about that. I was trusting Two's judgement on that.
Well lets see. Yes I played SC2 mafia before but obviously the mechanics are different from this one. For one, I don't even know what RV was until I played this. I never encountered scum hunting in SC2. Maybe I'll admit I'm playing a lot more passively then most because that's how most played it in SC2. Also why don't you look at Backfire or Kiddo instead of only at me? You even see Kiddo lied about not being on so he didn't post in this thread. Okay so you want me to post what I think.
Well I was wondering why did we let Mashley hide with Two again? The mafia would have gotten a double kill (Like right now). Was someone suppose to protect Two?
Well lets see. Yes I played SC2 mafia before but obviously the mechanics are different from this one. For one, I don't even know what RV was until I played this. I never encountered scum hunting in SC2. Maybe I'll admit I'm playing a lot more passively then most because that's how most played it in SC2. Also why don't you look at Backfire or Kiddo instead of only at me? You even see Kiddo lied about not being on so he didn't post in this thread. Okay so you want me to post what I think.
Well I was wondering why did we let Mashley hide with Two again? The mafia would have gotten a double kill (Like right now). Was someone suppose to protect Two?
No someone was supposed to watch Two.
Which worked out brilliantly - as we can see he was watched (and a whole lot of other stuff).
Which worked out brilliantly - as we can see he was watched (and a whole lot of other stuff).
Basically the controversy about that part of the day was the fact that Two was hinting at the fact he had a trick up his sleeve to avoid a night kill.Two wrote:
I'd rather keep the explanation as minimal as: trust me, you have nothing to worry about if you hide behind me.
Not sure how you missed that.
Oh yeah, as Lybydose said, he was meant to be watched too.
So now all we need to do is wait for watcher to tell us the names KRZY saw?
In my opinion it would help us figure out another mafia, but it's the watcher's call.
Yes. Here's what would happen:
1. Watcher gives us three names that aren't himself/KRZY/Mashley.
2. Those three people claim.
3. Two of them will have identical claims. This narrows down the mafia member to one of those two people.
4. I have a plan to determine which of those two is lying by directing night targets of known roles N2.
5. Lynch whoever was lying tomorrow.
1. Watcher gives us three names that aren't himself/KRZY/Mashley.
2. Those three people claim.
3. Two of them will have identical claims. This narrows down the mafia member to one of those two people.
4. I have a plan to determine which of those two is lying by directing night targets of known roles N2.
5. Lynch whoever was lying tomorrow.
Oh right I have an alternate plan:
1. No one claims
2. Watcher + KRZY + Motivator + Tracker all target the same person tonight. Preferably someone likely to be mafia.
3. If that person lives, the watcher claims and tells us which person from yesterday's result isn't on tonight's result, as that person is mafia.
4. If that person dies, we gain no information at all because the same three people show up again. Hence the "prefer to target mafia" in step 2.
1. No one claims
2. Watcher + KRZY + Motivator + Tracker all target the same person tonight. Preferably someone likely to be mafia.
3. If that person lives, the watcher claims and tells us which person from yesterday's result isn't on tonight's result, as that person is mafia.
4. If that person dies, we gain no information at all because the same three people show up again. Hence the "prefer to target mafia" in step 2.
...posting what you think != asking questions whose answers are easily inferred by doing five seconds of reading.
Also I like your attempts to shift the focus from yourself, first onto other lurkers and then onto the watcher.
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Lybydose's plans make sense I guess. There's no provision for who to lynch today, though. My proposal should be pretty clear.
Also I like your attempts to shift the focus from yourself, first onto other lurkers and then onto the watcher.
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Lybydose's plans make sense I guess. There's no provision for who to lynch today, though. My proposal should be pretty clear.
Oh right, in the situation that we go with Plan A, no one except the watcher claim yet. It's best if we specify a claiming order after the names are revealed.
Oh right because obviously having a whole different type of mafia game = understading all the aspects within an fast. I never even heard of the watcher role until reading the mafiascum wiki. I also like how you are so focused on me too. I gave you my defense. You can believe it if you will. At least I actually do post in this thread.
Wassup, guys?
Votecount:
Raging Bull (1) - akrolsmir
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Sorry I didn't write up D2's death scene. It's still pretty cool though.
Votecount:
Raging Bull (1) - akrolsmir
Salvage (1) - Rantai
Sorry I didn't write up D2's death scene. It's still pretty cool though.
lybydose's plans make sense. I prefer Plan B since it would show less roles to the mafia. It's a lot riskier, though, since there's a chance for it to fail.
I'd rather go with the first plan.
Accepting Rantai's assumption that there are four Mafia members, I think we can sacrifice one of the better auxes for a certain Mafia reveal. That'd be huge. I also trust Lyby to perform his trick N2, so for now I would like the watcher to claim and give us info.
Accepting Rantai's assumption that there are four Mafia members, I think we can sacrifice one of the better auxes for a certain Mafia reveal. That'd be huge. I also trust Lyby to perform his trick N2, so for now I would like the watcher to claim and give us info.
so Lyby in what order do you suggest we roleclaim? Plan B sucks because the fact that Two got killed instead of being able to drive himself and a target seems to heavily imply that we got a roleblocker around. If any of the people don't show up in the list (or worse the people watching the target get blocked) we're pretty much screwed having no information other than possibly having boosted a mafia member.
You should be careful with how you throw those motivations around.
You should be careful with how you throw those motivations around.
Wait, wouldn't the roleblock have been seen from KRZY's voyeuring?
Posting, just so it doesent seen like im lurking. I just dont have much to say. Not especially sure what you guys are really suggesting...then ahain I should prpbably just look up to see what a watcher does and it might make sense.
Oh nevermind. I got it ;w;
Watcher first, then ask the others to claim one at a time rather than all at once. The order isn't so important.Wojjan wrote:
so Lyby in what order do you suggest we roleclaim? Plan B sucks because the fact that Two got killed instead of being able to drive himself and a target seems to heavily imply that we got a roleblocker around. If any of the people don't show up in the list (or worse the people watching the target get blocked) we're pretty much screwed having no information other than possibly having boosted a mafia member.
You should be careful with how you throw those motivations around.
Right, KRZY would be able to detect the missing person. If KRZY were blocked there would be no missing person as the block was already used. The biggest problem with plan B is if the mafia just decides to kill our target too. Then we learn nothing and wasted a bunch of time.JInxyjem wrote:
Wait, wouldn't the roleblock have been seen from KRZY's voyeuring?
Plan A seems like the safer one to me , we already did a risky one D1 , not an option to do it again imo.
First off, wtf was Two's plan? I don't understand why he would try to bring Mashley down with him on a fake claim
I don't feel like exposing the Watcher is that great of an idea, because after they get NK'd we lose one of the important puzzle pieces.
Everyone who claims behind them is just going to get picked off one by one, and eventually there will be nobody left.
They should wait and gather more information before outright claiming, at least then we have a chance to catch more than a single Mafia member based on what they say.
I don't feel like exposing the Watcher is that great of an idea, because after they get NK'd we lose one of the important puzzle pieces.
Everyone who claims behind them is just going to get picked off one by one, and eventually there will be nobody left.
They should wait and gather more information before outright claiming, at least then we have a chance to catch more than a single Mafia member based on what they say.
And what if they actually did get NK without telling us anything? Wouldn't that have been a waste?
Of course it would, but they're going to die regardless if they roleclaim.
The only problem is guessing who's going to die.
Scenario 1:
Everyone involved roleclaims, they die every consecutive night until they're all dead.
Possibly lynch a town player hunting for Mafia - 50/50 chance.
Probably lynch a town player every day consecutively.
Scenario 2:
No one roleclaims, someone gets lynched/mafia kill a person tonight.
With 14 people, assuming there are 3 mafia left, that's 11 people they have to pick from. I doubt they're gonna pinpoint the Watcher in one night.
Roleclaim on D3 with possibly two Mafia names, and then use process of elimination to kill the last one off.
The only problem is guessing who's going to die.
But then you have to hope the watcher targets who the mafia targets or he's basically completely useless too.
Unless you meant that with - The only problem is guessing who's going to die.
Unless you meant that with - The only problem is guessing who's going to die.
yeahRantai wrote:
But then you have to hope the watcher targets who the mafia targets or he's basically completely useless too.
Unless you meant that with - The only problem is guessing who's going to die.
we have a Voyeur/Watcher/Tracker, all of them help increase the chances of figuring out who did what
if they all targeted different people (especially if the Tracker) it would be more wide spread on the information we gather.
that's basically 3 chances for town, 1 for mafia
makes sense to me