Chris wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

Also if you're so sure rantai won't die (because of the role you imply you are) then why did swiftwolf die?

I didn't imply I was anything

I just said Rantai wont die

Why, because you're mafia and aren't planning on killing him?

I probably wouldn't have worded it like that but yeah. You're implying that you're one of those protection roles, or you're implying that you're mafia. Pretty much the only options here.

Lybydose wrote:

Why, because you're mafia and aren't planning on killing him?

obviously

Lybydose wrote:

No i dont mean hider like on the wiki. Every role so far seems to have been made up or altered by two, so he probably made up a new role that's a mafia with some other aux power that can choose to be a "godfather" at will but cant use maf chat or his aux power when he does.

Yeah, I was talking to Chris there.

I brought up that possibility at the bottom of page 30:

0_o wrote:

Maybe there is a mafioso who has a night action, but can forfeit it for the night in order to appear as town?

I thinking that's the most likely scenario at the moment.

Okay sorry for missing this everyone but I'm going to end the day here.

DeathxShinigami - Townsperson has been smitten by the hand of god.

It's now Night 4. You have 24 hours to send in night actions.

It's now Day 5. You wake up and find...

Rantai - Know-it-all (Seer) dead, in a room full of very creepy pictures and notes

You have 72 hours until nightfall. 4 votes to lynch.

/raisefist

Good luck ^.^

vote: Chris

I thought Rantai wasn't going to die, dick. Explain.

Well, that was a waste of a day.

My choices are Lyby and animask.

Right now I'm thinking either Lyby or foul, slightly leaning Lyby.

If I had to pick a third, probably Chris, but I'd rather check out ^ first.

0_o wrote:

Right now I'm thinking either Lyby or foul, slightly leaning Lyby.

If I had to pick a third, probably Chris, but I'd rather check out ^ first.

Assuming one mafia, we have three lynches left.

7 -> 5 -> 3

Assuming two mafia, we have two lynches left.

So, anyone but Lyby object to a Lyby lynch for today sometime?

LadySuburu wrote:

sometime?

i.e., NOT half an hour from now

0_o wrote:

Right now I'm thinking either Lyby or foul, slightly leaning Lyby.

If I had to pick a third, probably Chris, but I'd rather check out ^ first.

Why me?

foulcoon wrote:

Why me?

Not so much that you're particularly scummy, but that I feel like everyone else is town

foulcoon is the most likely town here

Lybydose wrote:

foulcoon is the most likely town here

between that and the other stupid comment you made you're definitely keeping my vote~

0_o wrote:

If I had to pick a third, probably Chris, but I'd rather check out ^ first.

how could you pick me over someone like animask

Chris wrote:

0_o wrote:

If I had to pick a third, probably Chris, but I'd rather check out ^ first.

how could you pick me over someone like animask

I have my reasons.

0_o wrote:

I have my reasons.

are you saying you know animask is town

Chris wrote:

0_o wrote:

I have my reasons.

are you saying you know animask is town

Know? No.

Have a pretty good hunch I can't explain? Yes.

0_o wrote:

Have a pretty good hunch I can't explain? Yes.

fair enough, I trust you so I won't question it

imo lybydose and foulcoon are the last 2 mafia

pieguy still not much of an opinion on tbh, he's staying off the grid

wojjan calling him out kinda makes me think he's town though

animask is pretty inactive though

meanwhile everyone ignores LadySuburu who was faking a post restriction and generally just being extremely cryptic with everything AND hasn't even voted on either of the obvious bandwagons on mafia confirmed by a cop

Lybydose wrote:

meanwhile everyone ignores LadySuburu who was faking a post restriction and generally just being extremely cryptic with everything AND hasn't even voted on either of the obvious bandwagons on mafia confirmed by a cop

I can't exactly argue with this post cause you're right, though it does sort of seem like you're just trying to push the heat onto someone else and not really contribute/explain why you aren't mafia

what do you think facebro

Lybydose wrote:

meanwhile everyone ignores LadySuburu who was faking a post restriction and generally just being extremely cryptic with everything AND hasn't even voted on either of the obvious bandwagons on mafia confirmed by a cop

You mean I haven't rushed the end of the day in order to completely stifle any discussion town could've had, which you did.

I haven't been cryptic about anything that I can explain either.

You've only solidified my vote on you today with that post.

@chris, I'm not against him stating it again, but I believe he's twice now stated that he believes I'm town.

LadySuburu wrote:

You mean I haven't rushed the end of the day in order to completely stifle any discussion town could've had, which you did.

I haven't been cryptic about anything that I can explain either.

You've only solidified my vote on you today with that post.

@chris, I'm not against him stating it again, but I believe he's twice now stated that he believes I'm town.

I didn't mean what does he think about you specifically, just about lybydose's post in general~

I doubt you/faceman/animask are all mafia lol, so for the most part I believe you're town as well

also good point about the stopping town discussion thing

Vote: Lybydose (I didn't hammer again this time, did I?)

I was on to you from the start. I actually find it odd how LS 'faked' a restriction. The way that Lybydose is directing attention
to LS seems kind of scummy though. If Lybydose was mafia, I don't think he would target LS...

About foulcoon... I just think he's being inactive in weird places which could gather up suspicion on him. Chris feels like he could be mafia as well, but its more of a meta/gut feeling that I have. I'm not really sure who else could be mafia.

LadySuburu wrote:

I haven't been cryptic about anything that I can explain either.

No you haven't. No reason given for why you had a post restriction and just mysteriously lost it.

This post and whatever your super secret meaning is.

LadySuburu wrote:

Speaking of those three, I know for sure that they couldn't have understood my meaning.

So, I no longer really see them as town. That leaves faceman as the only one on my list.

animask wrote:

The way that Lybydose is directing attention
to LS seems kind of scummy though. If Lybydose was mafia, I don't think he would target LS...

this post directly contradicts itself

0_o wrote:

I am 95% sure LS is legit.

wanna give a percentage on animask and pieguy then?

I'm pretty sure my vote tomorrow is gonna stick with foulcoon unless something changes

inb4 I get NK'd

Chris wrote:

0_o wrote:

I am 95% sure LS is legit.

wanna give a percentage on animask and pieguy then?

I'm pretty sure my vote tomorrow is gonna stick with foulcoon unless something changes

inb4 I get NK'd

pieguy - 85%
animask - 80% ehh make that 75%

Given that % confidence is fairly ambiguous.

Lybydose wrote:

animask wrote:

The way that Lybydose is directing attention
to LS seems kind of scummy though. If Lybydose was mafia, I don't think he would target LS...

this post directly contradicts itself

you're still just fighting other posts and not doing anything to better your situation

you're pretty much guaranteed to be the lynch today with the way votes are heading

I'd roleclaim and say what information you've obtained from your role if you're not mafia~

or you know we could have roleclaimed yesterday when Rantai was still alive instead of right now so we'd have more information than the "absolutely nothing" you're going to get if you lynch me.

but oh wait no roleclaiming near the end game is going to make it too easy for mafia to pick off targets, so obviously we should just continue hiding all our information until the mafia wins. it's the perfect plan

btw I'm vanilla town

and by "absolutely nothing" I mean tomorrow is going to be LyLo if you lynch me and the mafia switcher whatever thing is on, so any roleclaim is likely faked and nearly impossible to confirm by that point, hence why we should have done it much sooner

you're about to get lynched anyways so you roleclaiming doesn't matter

was just wondering what you'd claim

Chris wrote:

you're still just fighting other posts and not doing anything to better your situation

why would I not fight other posts? animask suspects me with the brilliant logic of "Lybydose did something I don't think a mafia would do, so he must be mafia!"

great way to just throw votes on a bandwagon with no reasoning at all (you know, something the mafia would want to do)

Lybydose wrote:

animask wrote:

The way that Lybydose is directing attention
to LS seems kind of scummy though. If Lybydose was mafia, I don't think he would target LS...

this post directly contradicts itself

Oh, I meant if LadySuburu was mafia, I don't think Lybydose would target him.

Lybydose wrote:

Chris wrote:

you're still just fighting other posts and not doing anything to better your situation

why would I not fight other posts? animask suspects me with the brilliant logic of "Lybydose did something I don't think a mafia would do, so he must be mafia!"

great way to just throw votes on a bandwagon with no reasoning at all (you know, something the mafia would want to do)

you don't post for so long, and then when people start suspecting you you wind up replying to everyone mentioning your name

at this point it's just process of elimination, and you're one of the least confirmed town there is

animask wrote:

Oh, I meant if LadySuburu was mafia, I don't think Lybydose would target him.

what?

yes you're right I didn't post day two because the day ended before I even got a chance to check the thread. then I voted for a person found guilty by a confirmed cop that wasn't even being targeted by nightkills so what's the point in even discussing it, and then animask hammered before anything else happened.

why can't you make a post without trying to point out what someone else did scummy

that's one of the reasons I feel like you are mafia

oh right I guess a town player should never try to point out scummy things that other people do. Yeah that's the best way to catch mafia.

Lybydose wrote:

oh right I guess a town player should never try to point out scummy things that other people do. Yeah that's the best way to catch mafia.

you got accused of hammering soon to stop town discussion

you point out animask hammered

also sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

oh so now you just switch to ad hominem attacks?

Lybydose wrote:

oh so now you just switch to ad hominem attacks?

please stop trying to derail town

Given the death of Swiftwolf and then Rantai, I don't think there's a Doctor. Rantai died immediately after he roleclaimed, so even if the doctor can't protect the same person twice in a row, IMO it still doesn't make sense...

You mean I haven't rushed the end of the day in order to completely stifle any discussion town could've had, which you did.

Actually, this is a really good point (and I didn't even think about this). I can't imagine not hammering in most cases, but in this case both days hadn't even lasted a day. Hammering so soon makes sure there's no discussion going on.

That said, FoS: Lybydose He was near the end on Wojjan's bandwagon, and has been acting suspicious in general.

More coming, I'll go ahead and post this because Two prodded me a minute or so ago

That's just a FoS because in both cases the person was quite obviously mafia, so it's not that suspicious. During day 2, though, we still weren't 100% sure. Plus, he hasn't really brought up that much reasoning or deduction, and has mostly just voted. As I said, though, we have someone who switches between town and mafia, and it's more likely that he or LS is this person (assuming they switch when voted). What we need to do, I presume, is figure out when this person is mafia and lynch him then, but we don't even know what causes this person to switch back and forth.

Another possibility is that there's one mafia that counts as 2 mafia under a specific condition, instead of someone switching back and forth. Alternatively, it could be a townie that counts as mafia. It might also be a fourth mafia that appears as a townie if a specific condition is met. If someone switched back and forth entirely, it would be a bit difficult because they couldn't know who the mafia are, but they'd have to kill off everyone else. o.o (That mafia could have died already, so there's no guarantee that the one that's left is that mafia...and it doesn't matter much because Rantai is dead now ) I think the situation of having a "conditional miller" is a lot more likely because someone physically switching between town and mafia roles would make no sense IMO. If this is the case, there would be no benefit to switching, so LS and Lybydose are not more likely to be town. The situation of a "conditional godfather" doesn't make sense unless his condition was automatically true day 1, in which case that number would be correct. There might also be a framer, but the problem is that the condition only worked one day (unless the person who was framed was NK'ed, which doesn't make sense).

In other words, there are a lot of possibilities, but I think the "conditional miller" is the most likely one.

As I said, there's hardly any discussion going on, so I can't really come up with much. 0_o has been quite proactive and avoided hammering too early, so I think he's town. Chris is being quite proactive, so he's probably town, but everyone else might be mafia. foulcoon hasn't really been around recently. That leaves animask, Lybydose, LadySuburu, and foulcoon. So far I think the most suspicious person is Lybydose, because he's just voting and not providing much reasoning. He also voted DxS day 1, and was confident in Mashley who turned out to be town. He did suggest a mass roleclaim, which I think would help and at least raise activity, but two of our auxes have already died after roleclaiming...as I said, I don't think there's a doctor, so if we did that we'll probably lose another important aux. Then again we already have a huge advantage, so it might be worth it.

I'm not sure at all why LadySuburu faked a post restriction D1. The situation of LS being a "conditional miller", where the post restriction was the condition, makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure why it could have been lifted after the next day though (being miller for just 1 day seems a bit insignificant IMO, so he wouldn't really have to bother faking anything at all that early in the game). This means that either the condition is something entirely different, or he is not the "conditional miller", if that's what it actually is. If the condition is voting, it has to be LadySuburu, because he's the only one who voted day 1 and not day 2 and day 3. If it's being voted, it could be Chris or Lybydose.

So that leaves animask and foulcoon, who haven't really been that suspicious, but there's nothing really suggesting they're town. Lybydose has been acting quite suspicious, but I have a gut feeling he's not mafia. It's also a possibility that LadySuburu could be mafia, but I have a gut feeling he's town. Chris and 0_o are the least suspicious IMO, and I'm quite sure they're town.

I'm really not sure on this, because there's hardly been any discussion...which brings be back to my Lybydose FoS.

Regarding my inactivity, it's because I'll end up leaving during near the start of the day (or even during night) for school or sleep, and when I come back the day is already over. It's starting to get quite annoying, but there's nothing I can really do (and I won't complain since we've been lynching mafia left and right ).

^^ TEXTWALL ^^

I don't really get how people are disregarding the shady shit that LS and Chris have done. LS with the whole post restriction magically disappearing, and Chris claiming for sure Rantai would not die... How does nobody else find that suspicious? Also regarding my activity, I had no internet connection for just about 24 hours and for some time before and after that I was in either school or at work. There was also the point in time where days were so short that I completely missed them because of sleep or school.

The way Lyby is playing is pretty FoS-worthy I suppose. If Lyby does turn up town I will probably lean towards voting Chris or LS. Lyby will probably be lynched as the general consensus is everyone finds him suspicious. I'm not really sure why he said that I'm most likely to be town at this point. Not that I'm going to refuse a positive assessment, but because of my activity I find it difficult for anyone to form such an opinion. I simply don't understand why he would defend me.

foulcoon wrote:

Lyby will probably be lynched as the general consensus is everyone finds him suspicious.

No that's just the mafia bandwagon

foulcoon wrote:

I simply don't understand why he would defend me.

cause you're both mafia~

whatever chris, I'm not mafia.

wtb some votes or new input

there is no more town discussion

Yeah, discussion seems to be over.

Vote: Lybydose

Vote Count

Lybydose (3): Chris, animask, LadySuburu
Chris (1): foulcoon

not voting: 0_o, pieguy1372, Lybydose

Lybydose is L-1

Lybydose wrote:

vote: Chris

^ so mafia

Chris wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

vote: Chris

^ so mafia

^ so mafia

Lybydose wrote:

^ so mafia

sry if you were honestly town you'd vote foulcoon

he's the only other bad one

as opposed to "voting the other bandwagon to save myself"

you know the same thing you accused Swiftwolf (who was town) of not doing

Lybydose wrote:

as opposed to "voting the other bandwagon to save myself"

you know the same thing you accused Swiftwolf (who was town) of not doing

I also said d1

nice try though

Vote: Lybydose

Sorry if you're town bro.

If he turns up town LS and Chris are the two most likely to be mafia (already are the two most likely in my opinion).

ok whatever

FoS: LS and Chris

have fun

Final Vote Count

Lybydose (4): Chris, animask, LadySuburu, foulcoon
Chris (1): Lybydose

not voting: 0_o, pieguy1372

day is over, no more talking

since posting is still allowed until Two shows up

LadySuburu wrote:

Yeah, discussion seems to be over.

Vote: Lybydose

Funny how you're so quick to just declare discussion over and vote to end the day with 32 hours left.

Lybydose - Townsperson has been lynched

It's now Night 5. You have 24 hours to send in night actions.

It's now Day 6. You wake up to find...

animask - Innocuous Townsperson stabbed to death violently.

You have 48 hours until nightfall. It takes 3 votes to lynch.

I have no idea

you are all mafia

vote foulcoon

I really want to say though if faceman and suburu are actually town, all this "cant explain it" bs is not helping anything

I hope you were restricted because of a modkill not just cause you didn't want to say

Chris wrote:

I really want to say though if faceman and suburu are actually town, all this "cant explain it" bs is not helping anything

I hope you were restricted because of a modkill not just cause you didn't want to say

If I could say anything, I would. Also I really hope LS isn't mafia who was given information about the setup beforehand...

Will do a readthrough tomorrow, busy atm.

Oh also seeing as this very well could be lylo, anyone who can claim probably should.

I really think either Chris or LS is the mafia... I will roleclaim if that is the consensus but my role really won't make much sense. I'm more interested in how Chris got away with blatantly lying about Rantai not dying and not giving any insight into what his role actually is. His suspicion of me is also not justified in any way. I will only be voting either Chris or LS today. Thoughts face man? Pie guy?

I kinda agree with 0_o on the claiming thing. At this point it might be best for those who can claim to do so.

foulcoon wrote:

I really think either Chris or LS is the mafia... I will roleclaim if that is the consensus but my role really won't make much sense. I'm more interested in how Chris got away with blatantly lying about Rantai not dying and not giving any insight into what his role actually is. His suspicion of me is also not justified in any way. I will only be voting either Chris or LS today. Thoughts face man? Pie guy?

you've voted me every day since I hammered you in the last game~

get over it pls, you're not helping town by being mad

also gj hammering someone you thought was town the entire game, that's not suspicious at all

I guess I'll start: roleclaim Townsperson/vanilla

I'm not sure who that is left is allowed to roleclaim, but Two never told me I couldn't.

pieguy1372 wrote:

I guess I'll start: roleclaim Townsperson/vanilla

I'm not sure who that is left is allowed to roleclaim, but Two never told me I couldn't.

if you don't get modkilled then you're mafia 100%

dxs got modkilled for posting something like that and he was the same role

just for the future~

if pieguy gets modkilled we lost anyways, if he doesn't then he's mafia


unvote, vote pieguy

pieguy won't get modkilled.

Chris, please unvote so he doesn't get quickhammered, ty

that doesn't make any sense though, if dxs got modkilled for the exact same thing why wouldn't pieguy?

I do wonder why I haven't been NK'd though

probably because I'm on the wrong track and helping influence a bad vote?~


mmmmmmmmm so many possibilities, also answer pls faceman

Chris wrote:

that doesn't make any sense though, if dxs got modkilled for the exact same thing why wouldn't pieguy?

The difference I see is DxS said he can't claim due to role restrictions, whereas Pieguy flat-out claimed.

So as I see it there's two possibilities:

1. Pieguy's lying.
2. DxS wasn't a plain townsperson but flipped as that when he got smitten.

@Two

When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?



also there is no reason to lie this late in the game unless you are mafia imo

Chris wrote:

@Two
When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?

deathxshinigami really was a townsperson yes

Two wrote:

Chris wrote:

@Two
When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?

deathxshinigami really was a townsperson yes

Dunno if you'll answer this, but does Townsperson mean 100% vanilla town?

closed setup sry

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Chris wrote:

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Well what I was getting at is that it's possible even the "vanilla" townspersons have some sort of restriction (hence the modkill). Though I suppose DxS could have been talking outside the thread or something...

Since this is LyLo and Chris is being a fucking retard and thinks I'm mafia I'll role-claim. This probably won't make much sense.

Roleclaim: Coroner

thats all I'll say.

please trust me.

0_o wrote:

Chris wrote:

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Well what I was getting at is that it's possible even the "vanilla" townspersons have some sort of restriction (hence the modkill). Though I suppose DxS could have been talking outside the thread or something...

it's more than likely a post restriction or something, making it so they're unable to claim or even hint at their role

and a mafia wouldn't know that, which is why I question pieguys sincerity

why the fuck would anyone need a coroner if the roles get posted when they die?

what

that doesn't make sense at all actually, gj calling it

also if you're not mafia you're just really bad, so gj being fucking retarded

has anyone this entire game actually been able to claim? as far as I remember it's only pieguy/foulcoon

do we have our last two mafia ^_^

How do the results you receive differ from what we're given?

You've found me suspicious this whole time, there's no convincing someone as stubborn as you. Did you seriously ridicule me for hammering someone you all thought was suspicious? A person you voted for? And yeah I've been voting for you, because you're playing like a tard and you've lied to everyone.

Roleclaim or I will continue to vote for you. Why did Rantai die when you said he wouldn't? Why did you make it seem like you were the Doctor or another protection role?

foulcoon wrote:

Roleclaim or I will continue to vote for you.

so very town of you foulcoon

also waiting for an answer to facemans question

@faceguy, they don't

@Chris: are you dumb or stupid? I'm not mafia. If you're town you are the worst player of all time.

Vote: Chris

wait I think I already did that, right?

guess not, vote stands (lol triple post)