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Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Two: He is probably playing this werewolf game like his other ones. I guess I still find him weird since I've never really liked him in any of the games. I normally don't like roleclaiming on Day 1 so I'm going to possibly roleclaim on Day 2 unless something comes up. His aggressiveness makes me think he is a civilian due to him pressing on everybody so far.

Chris: Two finds him suspicious for hinting at being vigilante. The only role that can be mod confirmed. Two said he would confirm his role. It's possible that he meant confirming his role in a loose way (like claiming and giving results).

Salvage: I think he might actually be a civilian even though he was been playing with a lot of scum tells. If he's not that good at this game, he'll have to learn somehow.

Everyone else needs to talk mor---... No, you guys should post chat logs instead.

If I get NK'd, Two is probably the one to blame.

Vote: Chris

Seems to be the most suspicious to me besides Two. I think Two & Chris could be wolves. After Two hooks everyone in with roleclaims, he'll make everyone think that he is a civilian and kill all the good roles. Two is the most... aggressive and information seeking so he seems innocent for now.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
When I said "most", I meant more innocent than Chris.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Vote: Chris.

Fair enough.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

Two wrote:

salvage even went so far as to say that he wouldn't claim even if town was going to waste a lynch on him

Yeah that's not true, quote the PM's if you want .. i told you i'm not roleclaiming till i find you 100% trustable. :)


I just woke up btw.


vote: Chris



Chris wrote:

yay bandwagon
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Sorry for not posting guys, I'm lacking internet at home right now for reasons unknown and I've been at work a lot with a stripped down workstation as I typically work via remote desktop (lol can't do that with no internet at home). << direct copy from other mafia game thread.

Basically I'm going to refuse to claim at this point in time as well. I get that mass role-claim's win games for town but with 4 civillian claims and 3 refusing to claim I find it highly unlikely everyone is telling the truth. There's also the possiblity that Two isn't who he seems.

Two: Is that 4 civilian claims other than yourself? Because I would find those people pretty fucking suspicious.

Also: can someone please show me where Chris said he was the vigilante?

Also also: FoS: Salvage, really dude? you might possibly be the worst werewolf ever LOL.

on second thought, fuck the FoS.

Vote: Salvage
foulcoon
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foulcoon

animask wrote:

Seems to be the most suspicious to me besides Two. I think Two & Chris could be wolves. After Two hooks everyone in with roleclaims, he'll make everyone think that he is a civilian and kill all the good roles. Two is the most... aggressive and information seeking so he seems innocent for now.
I just saw this. What the fuck?
Two_old
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Two_old
I'm not going to find the post where chris claimed vigilante as I'm lazy and that's your job, but I will say this:

what makes you think your role is so special foulcoon? I already "know" the identity of numerous power role holders, and even if you don't have one it would behoove you, for the sake of the town, to tell me your role
foulcoon
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foulcoon

Two wrote:

if I had to guess your role
I would say
Wolf Scaremongerer
Christopher says:
do you want me to confirm it
a says:
confirm what
Christopher says:
my role
a says:
are you roleclaiming vigilante
Christopher says:
lol
a says:
yes?
Christopher says:
I'm not roleclaiming anything you wolf
found it

I don't think he claimed he was the vigilante, I think you just saw it that way in your own mind and he went with it to fuck with you (that or he was just being a smartass saying he would confirm to you that he was the scaremonger).

And as far as roleclaiming to you goes, I have my reasons and if you can't respect that then I'll let you find me suspicious for now. I know you think you have "confirmed power roles" claimed to you but you can never been sure.
Two_old
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Two_old
found it

I don't think he claimed he was the vigilante, I think you just saw it that way in your own mind and he went with it to fuck with you (that or he was just being a smartass saying he would confirm to you that he was the scaremonger).

And as far as roleclaiming to you goes, I have my reasons and if you can't respect that then I'll let you find me suspicious for now. I know you think you have "confirmed power roles" claimed to you but you can never been sure.
ok your post is hilarious

lets start with chris: he says that and then even after all I've said, says absolutely nothing in the thread to defend himself and then just votes for me

sounds real town foulcoon, with you on the case, we'll be sure to know everyone by day 2

yeah I can't respect your reasons for not claiming when you don't even realize that I put 'know' in quotation marks in my post, the point is that the only way to -know- is to have people actually claim to me

the fact is there is no town reason to not roleclaim to me, and so you are either dim or a werewolf
foulcoon
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foulcoon
classic, Two. I'm the dim one.

why don't you and your other 4 civilian friends have a tea party.
Two_old
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Two_old
why don't you and your 3 werewolf friends just forfeit this game since it's impossible for you to win
foulcoon
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foulcoon
this sounds a lot like PyP
Two_old
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Two_old
not following
foulcoon
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foulcoon
forcing a mass role-claim and eventually losing the game.

I obviously lied in that game and managed to survive for days for reasons I still don't understand today.

and by you and your civilian friends I meant you and the 3-4 wolves who claimed civilian to you.
Two_old
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Two_old

foulcoon wrote:

forcing a mass role-claim and eventually losing the game.

I obviously lied in that game and managed to survive for days for reasons I still don't understand today.

and by you and your civilian friends I meant you and the 3-4 wolves who claimed civilian to you.
if you really want to bring that up, let's point out a few things

1. there was a serial killer who won by killing certain roles, is there one in this game? no

2. that setup was horrible

3. I knew you lied, you knew I knew you lied, not sure why you are trying to argue that me being right all the time makes me wrong

4. town actually did share a win with serial killer that game, unlike you and your team who once again lost

care to explain why you are glossing over chris' incriminating lack of activity? how about the fact that you are targeting someone who is both new, has a language barrier, and no "political" sway? what about being afraid to roleclaim to me since you've already insinuated you aren't a civilian and don't want to risk claiming a duplicate power role?
foulcoon
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foulcoon
I never insinuated I was or was not any role. If I were a civilian why would I tell you lest I risk claiming the 5th duplicate of a role in a 14 person game? If I were a power role why would I claim to someone who I can't confirm town just because other people did?

I'm just not sure about you this game. Why rolefish day 1, focus on me after you THINK you've already pegged mafia member, and not hunt the other people who first refused to claim. Salvage seems to speak english pretty well enough to want to play a game like this, and he seems pretty freaking scummy to me. As for Chris' inactivity, sorry, I wasn't in on this as I've been without internet / not reading this forum or IRC for a while now.

Also why bring up your half-win like its some sort of accomplishment. Its called a pity award given to the 2nd place losers. In the end only bmin won. Don't fool yourself into thinking you won that game. P.S. - Chris' role in that game was hilarious, and the hosting was incredible. Also my mafia team in that game was retarded, not much I could do.
Two_old
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Two_old
first part of your post is trash so I'm ignoring it



foulcoon wrote:

Also why bring up your half-win like its some sort of accomplishment. Its called a pity award given to the 2nd place losers. In the end only bmin won. Don't fool yourself into thinking you won that game.
you have a pretty short memory...

foulcoon wrote:

forcing a mass role-claim and eventually losing the game.

foulcoon wrote:

and the hosting was incredible.
v

foulcoon wrote:

In other news, I think the setup could have been more fair with another mafia member. Also without a theme that makes it obvious with a mass role-claim who the possible mafia (or in this case BAT) are.

foulcoon wrote:

As for Chris' inactivity, sorry, I wasn't in on this as I've been without internet / not reading this forum or IRC for a while now.
Reason why you aren't voting for him now is...?
Salvage
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Salvage
Yeah my english is fine , i'd just love to hear why you think i seem pretty freaking scummy to you ..
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Mainly because I didn't want to hammer someone without reading the thread as I've been away.

Also why are you browsing as invisible, any reason you wouldn't want people to know you're reading the thread? Its funny because in most games you're the person who copies the "Users browsing this forum:" and makes lurkers post or seem scummy.
Salvage
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Salvage
It's cause i don't roleclaim? You're not doing it neither for the same reasons i said i'm not doing it .. so you're pretty freaking scummy then?.


Explain.
Two_old
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Two_old
I've been browsing as invisible since before this game started. Nice try though.

Like I said, it's impossible for werewolves to win this game. It really doesn't matter to me in the long run if you're a wolf or not, it's just boring when people refuse to make the game interesting by not risking a claim.
foulcoon
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I don't know the game seemed pretty dormant before I came back. I feel like I'm making the game more interesting.

And for the invisible browsing thing I just thought it was hilarious that you feel the need to be invisible. Hell, if everyone playing mafia games went invisible maybe you'd be right about who was mafia more often because you wouldn't always pressure lurkers.
Two_old
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Two_old
and I find your deflection hilarious so at least we can do these things for each other
foulcoon
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foulcoon
dinner tonight?
Two_old
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Two_old
just to really drive this home

foulcoon wrote:

Mainly because I didn't want to hammer someone without reading the thread as I've been away.
yet foulcoon felt ok with voting for salvage without reading the thread

Lynch order:
1. Chris
2. foulcoon
3. Kiddo-Kun
4. adam2046
5. Salvage

Want to change my mind? Roleclaim/correct your roleclaim.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
nah that lynch order looks okay to me.
adam2046
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Two wrote:

Lynch order:
1. Chris
2. foulcoon
3. Kiddo-Kun
4. adam2046
5. Salvage
So I can make it to day 4?
Cool beans.
Two_old
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Two_old
yes
Chris_old
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Chris_old
lynch Two
pieguyn
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pieguyn
unvote vote: Chris

I always end up doing a lot less when out-of-thread discussion is allowed >.<//
Rantai
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Rantai
Vote: Chris

I don't know what to believe anymore.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
It's not what to believe.

D1 in a Werewolf is probably the most abstract thing ever. One reason is that it's so open and the fact that no discussion taking place at all and just votes being placed is probably how it is. There's nothing to go on unless you do something on your own initiative.

Which is why people are just blindly following Two because he's the only influential poster thus far. I'm pretty sure someone else is doing work behind the scenes as well, werewolf or not.

Also, a lynch can tell a lot of things. Unless of course...you lynch the coroner. Like a dumbass.
Two_old
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Two_old
no I'm pretty sure I'm really the only one doing work
Chris_old
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Chris_old
two is wolf
adam2046
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adam2046

Chris wrote:

two is wolf
I am convinced.

I do hope it turns out that no one is actually roleclaiming to Two and he's just doing this to get the roles of people who just follow along.
Because that would be far more interesting.
Salvage
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Salvage
The good thing is that we can notice if that's actually the case with D1 lynch and that's a lot of information for D1 .. cause we can get lot's of town confirmations if that's the case .. if not 1 wolf confirmed? idk.
adam2046
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adam2046

Salvage wrote:

The good thing is that we can notice if that's actually the case with D1 lynch and that's a lot of information for D1 .. cause we can get lot's of town confirmations if that's the case .. if not 1 wolf confirmed? idk.
What?
Salvage
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Salvage
If we lynch a wolf .. would you say Two did all of this to lynch one of his teammates? .. I'm just saying that if that's the case we can trust him , and with that , all the confirmed towns he says we could have with the roleclaims given to him? .. If not then he's wolf , simple as that.


I'm sorry for explaining like shit .. i do my best D:
Two_old
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Two_old
there's like 12 hours left btw
adam2046
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Salvage wrote:

If we lynch a wolf .. would you say Two did all of this to lynch one of his teammates?
Yes.
Two_old
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Two_old
that's so amateur and it's insulting you think that little of me
Two_old
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Two_old
ok well here is where I stand:

vigilante, priest, mad scientist, samurai, unknown celebrity, and insomniac

^ those are the roles currently claimed to me

if you are one of the above roles and a wolf claimed your role, or are the seer/psychic/guardian angel/coroner, please let me know thx
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Maybe Accurate votecount:

Chris (8) - adam2046, Two, animask, Lilac, Salvage, pieguy, Rantai, 0_o

Two (2) - bmin11, Chris

Salvage (2?) - Dxs, foulcoon

Edit: Added in the new vote from 0_o.
Last edited by LadySuburu , edited 2 times in total.
0_o
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0_o
vote Chris
Salvage
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Salvage
So many people lurking <.<.


How many votes are needed to the lynch? ..
Rantai
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Rantai
Just a majority at sundown, if I read correctly.
Salvage
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Salvage

LadySuburu wrote:

Salvage (1) - Dxs, foulcoon

.


what
Salvage
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Salvage

Salvage wrote:

How many votes are needed to the lynch? ..


"14:09 LS WWG has no automatic lynches and time isn't up yet"


nvm.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Salvage (1) - Dxs, foulcoon

.


what
Yeah, not sure what went wrong but since Chris is so overwhelmingly above it doesn't matter.

Also WWG has no automatic lynch.
bmin11
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Unvote
Removing RV
Salvage
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Salvage
any toughts bmin?
bmin11
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bmin11
None at the moment
Chris_old
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Chris_old
don't vote me I'm no wolf

vote two he is abusing your inactivity
Chris_old
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Chris_old
roleclaim: samurai

protect me priest~
bmin11
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bmin11
Vote: Chris
bmin11
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bmin11
You think Two is Wolf, but you told you are Samurai to Two before role claiming here. What is this?
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder

bmin11 wrote:

You think Two is Wolf, but you told you are Samurai to Two before role claiming here. What is this?
Where does it say that he roleclaimed as the Samurai? Someone else could be the real samurai. Two is mass scouting/roleclaim hunting. The
strategy seems familiar, so the best thing to do is to give an answer that will best suit your role. Someone else probably fake roleclaimed who is a civilian/pro-town. That's the only weakness that I can see in his plan. Wolves will fake roleclaim or not claim at all. So he's probably trying to get a wolf to fake roleclaim.

Two is openly doing this and I have no idea what everyone else is doing.

Chris's roleclaim... wait, the priest revives and the guardian angel protects. You're doing it wrong.
Chris_old
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animask wrote:

Chris's roleclaim... wait, the priest revives and the guardian angel protects. You're doing it wrong.
oh

protect me please guardian angel~
Lilac
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Lilac
Hold up, let me see how many wolves have voted for Chris...

...Cause all of them probably have. Or maybe none of them? Even better.
0_o
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0_o

Lilac wrote:

...Cause all of them probably have. Or maybe none of them?
By Jove, he's done it again!
Two_old
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Two_old
well we know foulcoon hasn't
Chris_old
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Chris_old
two hasn't even denied being a wolf
Kiddo-Kun
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Kiddo-Kun
Vote: Chris

If he ain't Werewolf, I'm coming after Two
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I hate you all
Two_old
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Two_old
aw
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
You decided Chris was the one to go.

It was a regular old lynch, and then he was dead. Kinda boring, but it got the job done. At least pretty much everyone agreed it was time for him to go.

Chris - Lynched D1.

It is now Night 1, please send all night actions within 24 hours. If you are not taking action, please submit "No Action".
DeathxShinigami
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Posting to say I'm dropping out (Yes even thought it's night)
LadySuburu
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DeathxShinigami wrote:

Posting to say I'm dropping out (Yes even thought it's night)
Searching for a replacement for DxS.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Will replace in 8-)
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
NoHItter replaces DxS.
LadySuburu
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In the morning, you find two dead bodies.

The first is of foulcoon, although it was kinda hard to tell with all that fur. It seems a werewolf was killed at night. That werewolf being foulcoon, of course.

The second is of adam. Basically ripped in half, unfortunately.

It is now Day 2, deadline is in 3 days.
pieguyn
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Well, it seems Two is telling the truth

vote: Kiddo-kun
Rantai
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Hmm.

I find it odd that adam died though.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
go town
bmin11
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Same, but it isn't necessarily a scum tell if you refuse to role claim to an unconfirmed
bmin11
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bmin11
Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with believing Two to be a townie. Everyone send your role to Two
NoHitter
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Reading the thread, atm.
Fourteen pages >.>
0_o
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0_o

NoHItter wrote:

Reading the thread, atm.
Fourteen pages >.>
I'll sum it up:

Tell Two your role and we'll win.

Unless you are mafia.

Then you will not.
Two_old
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Two_old
they probably were targeting the coroner
Two_old
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Two_old
vote: animask
Two_old
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Two_old
animask:

1. claimed insomniac
2. ignored pm asking what his results were last night
3. answered my followup pm that I sent right after I saw him post somewhere and said this:
Yeah, I don't think I got anything... maybe next night I'll find something.
4. after informing him that his ability can't fail, he said this:
I'll wait for LadySuburu again... you sure its a definite thing? Seems like I really do have a good role then...
5. I asked him right after that "what did you send ladysuburu last night", and he read and ignored it

then I asked ladysuburu...
are you 100% sure you handled all wwg night actions
14:54 Urubus Yes
14:54 Urubus Well, 99%
14:54 Urubus Cause I'm never 100% sure
14:54 Two animask said he didn't get a reply back
14:55 Urubus I sent out replies to anyone who sent in actions.
14:55 Urubus Though, my internet cut out right at the end
14:56 Two did you check sent messages
14:56 Urubus Yeah, they seemed to all be in there
so yeah, 1 more wolf to go
pieguyn
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unvote
vote: animask
Ivalset
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Ivalset
vote: animask
bmin11
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Enough for me

Vote: animask
0_o
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0_o
vote animask
Salvage
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Salvage
vote : animask
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Roleclaim: Insomniac

Vote: Kiddo-kun

I'm probably getting lynched tonight, but at least I did my part.
Two_old
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Two_old
unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
Two_old
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Two_old
I forget if I said this but kiddo-kun claims to be vigilante

if he really is he can shoot animask so it's np
Ivalset
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unvote, vote:Kiddo-Kun
Salvage
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How would he shoot animask if we lynch him?.
Salvage
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Salvage
Whatever .. it's the same what we do now.


unvote, vote: Kiddo-kun
Ivalset
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Salvage wrote:

How would he shoot animask if we lynch him?.
The idea is that he shoots animask before we lynch him.
Salvage
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Salvage
Yeah i totally forgot that vigilante can shoot at day.
Kiddo-Kun
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Shoot: animask
Yes I did.
LadySuburu
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Kiddo-Kun wrote:

Shoot: animask
BAAAAAAAAAAAANG!

A gunshot sounds throughout the area. As you go to check what happened, you see animask shot dead.

Kiddo: He was spreading lies about me, saying he saw me last night as a werewolf! I can't stand for that.

It seems Kiddo is a Vig, and animask is dead.

The day continues on.
Two_old
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Two_old
ookayyy

unvote. vote: Lilac for fun
Ivalset
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unvote
Salvage
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Salvage
unvote


...
Two_old
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Two_old
Civilians:
Lilac: Civilian
pieguy: Civilian
ivalset: Civilian
NoHItter: Civilian

Unconfirmed Aux:
Salvage: Seer
Rantai: Priest
0_o: Mad Scientist

Priest and Mad Scientist should be confirmed by tomorrow.
9 town
1 wolf

Tomorrow:
-2 town (lynch, revive, nightkill, samurai)
7 town
1 wolf

Next day:
-2 town (lynch, nightkill)
5 town
1 wolf
total people confirmed at this point: priest, mad scientist, 3 civilians

Next day:
-2 Town (lynch, nightkill)
3 town
1 wolf
total people confirmed at this point: priest, mad scientist, 4 civilians

Next day:
lynch seer
game over

so you see by this process of elimination, it is impossible for wolves to win
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