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Two_old
got it
Ivalset
Confirmation.
Sleep Powder
Confirmd.
foulcoon
confirm
Kiddo-Kun
Confirmed.
Two_old
btw if samurai was rp tastic it would seppuku upon killing a human
adam2046
Confirm
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Enough people have confirmed that the game will officially begin.

Day one will have a deadline of 5 days. Make the most of it.

With 14 alive, it's--- Wait, wrong game.

Day one... Start!
Two_old
vote Kiddo-kun

not a random vote
bmin11
Vote: Two

Edited to bold it
Two_old
I said it wasn't random bmin. Are you really going to roleclaim werewolf this early in the game?
bmin11
Mine was

Is RVS only for Mafia? If it is, sorry I never knew.
Two_old
And now you're building up a "how i do this halp pls" wall around yourself. Your adorable charm works every game but not this one.
foulcoon
Vote: bmin11
Two_old
yeah bmin just lurked some after foulcoon posted then left

well that was easy, unvote, vote bmin11
Chris_old
vote: bmin11

yay bandwagon
Salvage
vote Two


Cause i readed some other mafia games and you allways seem pretty suspicious being that offensive , even tho it's my first game.
bmin11

Chris wrote:

vote: bmin11

yay bandwagon
Actually?
Two_old
if you readed them then you'd know I was always town, right? and if I was always town and you are voting for me, then the logical conclusion is that you aren't town

or can you prove me wrong
Salvage
No you weren't , plus i know that u're a good player , so why would u act differently not being town? .. seems a bit dumb doesn't it?.
Chris_old
unvote

vote: salvage


wow
Two_old
so you think I'm not town because I'm acting the same as when I am town?

just making sure we are clear on that
Chris_old

Two wrote:

so you think I'm not town because I'm acting the same as when I am town?

just making sure we are clear on that
^ I only edited to bold unvote
Salvage
Nope , i just told you why i voted you on my first post .. the second one was to clarify that you can play the same way being on both situations , anyways you usually died early on some of the previous games so i don't have much to analyze you ...


Btw what's that edit about Chris? ..
bmin11

Two wrote:

if you readed them then you'd know I was always town, right? and if I was always town and you are voting for me, then the logical conclusion is that you aren't town

or can you prove me wrong
Since when meta was a good reasoning?
Salvage
nvm ninja'd
Two_old
ok so the gist of what you are saying is that you want me dead because I'm good?
Two_old
you tell me bmin I'm responding to salvage
Salvage
Not really , i told you i'm suspicious about you cause the way you play makes me feel that way .. doesn't mean i want you dead , game just started and i don't feel confortable with all that agressivenes , simple as that .. you know how D1 works more than me tho.
Two_old
this is the part where I give up trying to understand
DeathxShinigami
Vote: Salvage

You make no sense.
adam2046
Vote: Salvage
I've got nothing.
Salvage
Yeah maybe i don't , i see it clearly tho .. even tho it could be full of WIFOM , Two's way to play seems suspicious to me , maybe cause i become too paranoid with one guy asking lots of questions trying to seem like townie, idk.
bmin11
"You are suspicious, but I don't want you dead"
Am I reading stuff right?
Salvage
I said "doesn't mean i want you dead" of course i won't go with such a high gut on d1 , i felt that way in this game and wanted to see what two tought about it , i still can't figure it out much with it anyways ..
0_o
confirm
Sleep Powder
Salvage is like SwiftTailVashWolf...

That random bandwagon vote seems kind of suspicious though...

The last few games I've been in had lots of people getting bandwagon voted on the same day. This is probably one of them...
There's not enough information to vote yet.
Two_old
if I had to guess your role
I would say
Wolf Scaremongerer
Christopher says:
do you want me to confirm it
a says:
confirm what
Christopher says:
my role
a says:
are you roleclaiming vigilante
Christopher says:
lol
a says:
yes?
Christopher says:
I'm not roleclaiming anything you wolf
Chris_old
a says
I will bot you if you roleclaim
not until then
Christopher says
wow
use that to nk me
a says
I told you my role
or did I
Christopher says
nope
a says
civilian
Christopher says
lol
me too
a says
yeah I know it's a cop out role
but I'm serious
o-o
are you
Christopher says
no
a says
aw
Christopher says
lol
I don't believe you
a says
well it's true
trying to force me to roleclaim just so he would level me in another game~
Two_old
I would vote for you if the real vigilante wasn't going to kill you
Lilac
How badly formatted is that chatlog?

Urgh..
DeathxShinigami
That's a terrible MSN you're using.
bmin11
yeah bmin just lurked some after foulcoon posted then left
oh great now I just saw that. tbh I have nothing to say against your "bmin is using his noob acting shield again". I thought your vote was kind of a RV (don't tell me you were going to political lynch him) and so I voted thinking we are in a RVS.
Rantai
Ugh, confirm. Reading.

Damn these time zones
Rantai
Wow why is it every game there is some mind hurting player... D:

Who's 'a'?
adam2046

Rantai wrote:

Wow why is it every game there is some mind hurting player... D:

Who's 'a'?
That's clearly Two...
Rantai
I always want to make sure even if I have a small amount of confusion ^.^
pieguyn
Salvage is acting odd, but I have a gut feeling Salvage isn't mafia. :?

random.org says 7! vote: DxS
Ivalset
Well, of course not, there aren't any mafia in this game period.
pieguyn
Oh lol, I meant wolf :P
Kiddo-Kun

Two wrote:

vote Kiddo-kun

not a random vote
And what is that reason exactly?
Two_old

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

Two wrote:

vote Kiddo-kun

not a random vote
And what is that reason exactly?
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:05 am (21 hours ago)

that's why
Two_old
well our vigilante is asleep at the wheel

if you want to win this game easily, send me a PM and roleclaim
adam2046
This guy seems legit.
Two_old
yep, already got one

just need 10 more roleclaim pms
Two_old
9 more
Rantai
Wait what?

I am confuse.
Two_old
confused about what? 2 people have pm'd me a roleclaim

the concept is this:

1. mass claiming wins games

2. people don't mass claim because of possible negative side effects

3. mass claiming to 1 person, assuming that person is town, eliminates all negative side effects

4. the person claimed to can also act as a proxy, and so is a perfect fit for a civilian (to entice a night kill)

I need 9 more roleclaim pms
Sleep Powder
I don't really want to trust Two just yet. Wolves would benefit a whole lot from knowing who the roles are much more than a pro-town player.
The wolves will probably roleclaim as a vanilla townie/civilian in order to hide behind the few players that have to claim as that role or actually have that role. If everyone does roleclaim to you, wont' that raise suspicion to the wolves and get you NK'd? The Angel may or may not protect you depending on if they believe you're pro-town or not. Pro-town players will most likely give you correct roleclaims, so we don't need to worry about that.

Too much WIFOM!

If you were the vigilante, this would make this easier.
Salvage
unvote


I've never seen that PM the role thing , is that even doable? .. i find it hard to trust people if i'm not 100% sure they're town anyways , and D1 it's not helping much cause it's being really quiet .. the day seems long enough to get some conclusions tho , but it'll be better to seize it


I can't gather much infornation just yet about players .. i'll try to do my best when i can give my opinion .. but now there aren't lots of pots to get it.
Two_old

animask wrote:

I don't really want to trust Two just yet. Wolves would benefit a whole lot from knowing who the roles are much more than a pro-town player.
The only way you can believe I'm a wolf is if you believe either chris is human or we both are wolves. You only hint at being vigilante if you are a vigilante or you're a wolf. Hence, chris is a wolf.

So animask, you think we both are wolves? Explain your line of thinking.
bmin11
We are just assuming that Chris was hinting to be a Vig while there is still a possibility he could have different roles. I don't think it's right to think "This, thus that" at this point. So, I'm not sending my role to you until Chris confirms (and even that, I would feel comfortable to just send it to Chris)
Sleep Powder

Two wrote:

animask wrote:

I don't really want to trust Two just yet. Wolves would benefit a whole lot from knowing who the roles are much more than a pro-town player.
The only way you can believe I'm a wolf is if you believe either chris is human or we both are wolves. You only hint at being vigilante if you are a vigilante or you're a wolf. Hence, chris is a wolf.

So animask, you think we both are wolves? Explain your line of thinking.
There's no and/or option? I guess it makes sense with how Chris reacted. (Semi-meta) I've always thought Chris would play similar to how you do and expected him to be less direct about his role. There's the possibility of him being a wolf, but I'm not sure yet. bmin pretty much has the same reasoning as I do.
Two_old

bmin11 wrote:

So, I'm not sending my role to you until Chris confirms (and even that, I would feel comfortable to just send it to Chris)
until chris confirms what? he's not the vigilante lol
bmin11
Nvm I'm reading stuff wrong
Two_old
so you're gonna pm me your role? :)
Two_old
8 more roleclaim pms pls send them
adam2046
I refuse.

Unvote
Vote: Chris if that makes you feel any better.
Two_old
do you refuse for a reason
Two_old
23:15 Two hi
23:15 animask hi
23:16 Two so I have 3 roleclaims now on top of my own role
23:16 Two I need more
23:16 Two namely yours
23:17 Two why so afk
23:17 animask did the guardian angel agree to protect you in night so you don't get NK'd? so all of your work doesn't go to waste
^fishing for whether or not it's safe to kill me
23:17 Two no I don't know who that is
23:18 Two ok I answered your question
23:18 Two now you answer mine
23:18 Two what is your role ^_^
23:19 Two I'm thiiiis close to adding you to my confirmed wolf list
23:19 animask I don't really want to say...
^wolf
23:19 Two k bam
23:19 Two done
23:19 Two thx
I'd like to think the time he spent not answering me he spent trying to think of a roleclaim lie

wolf list:
Chris
animask

how many more will we find before day 2
adam2046

Two wrote:

do you refuse for a reason
I just don't roleclaim to non-confirmed people.
I'm not not about to change policy. Not even for you, Two.
pieguyn
I always find a lot less when out-of-thread discussion is allowed... >.<

On another note, I did roleclaim to Two. I hope this whole setup pays off~
Two_old
I guess that's all I'm going to get :/

vote chris everyone thx

unvote, vote chris
Two_old
prod everyone applicable thx
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

prod everyone applicable thx
There are no prods in WWG, but feel free to send out your own prods to everyone. Remember, since out of thread communication is available you can do all of that yourself.

:D, Yay, I can be lazy.
Two_old
ok tell me which one is the vigilante and I will prod them myself
0_o
I don't see why you're targetting Chris, isn't vig is the one role you can can claim that actually makes you more likely to be town? There is no point in a wolf claiming vig since that's the only role that's actually mod-confirmable.

If it's because he's not willing to shoot somebody on Day 1 to prove it:

0_o wrote:

not everyone can shoot somebody D1 like you can, Two.
Two_old
why would a vigilante not shoot someone who claimed vigilante day 1? it makes no sense at all to me

chris made the mistake of hinting at being vigilante to get me off of his case and instead it confirmed him wolf
0_o

Two wrote:

why would a vigilante not shoot someone who claimed vigilante day 1? it makes no sense at all to me

chris made the mistake of hinting at being vigilante to get me off of his case and instead it confirmed him wolf
If somebody fakeclaimed vigilante then yes, the real vigilante should shoot him.

I'm saying that if Chris was indeed a wolf then why would he softclaim a role that is pretty much impossible to fakeclaim successfully?
Two_old
I said why, to get me off his back

I'm on msn all the time with him if I want to know his role I'm going to break him eventually

of course vigilante is a bad aux claim to make, but everyone can't be perfect all the time
Salvage
Sounds pretty logic to me , but since it's an almost-confirmed wolf , and i say almost cause maybe he's vigilante roleclaim it's true .. so , wouldn't it be better to find another wolf now and make the real vigilante , if there is another one , shoot him , if that doesn't happen i guess he can shoot someone and the mod will proove he's the real one .. i mean , we could use this lynch in a better way , that's my opinion.

I'll save my vote for now anyways.
Two_old
salvage it's you or chris being lynched

if you aren't a wolf, voting for him is a no-brainer
Salvage
Lynch me if you feel you can save one day doing so , i'm just telling you the best option in my opinion , we have 3 more days to find more evicende on a safe lynch , Chris it's an easy thing to solve as i said before .. why waste 1 lynch like this? If he's the real vig it wouldn't be worth it .. and if he's not it just takes 1 night to figure it out.



Two wrote:

if you aren't a wolf, voting for him is a no-brainer

Didn't understand that btw.
Chris_old
unvote, vote Two
Two_old
salvage: why would we lynch anyone else when they could be a power role?
Salvage
Why are we talking of the same thing over and over? it's like im answering your same questions al the time , reread my posts pls.


The reason it's just obvious , the almost confirmed wolf that can't be faked leads to the chance to seize this D1 lynching another wolf and prooving chris innocence , if he's the vig we have a confirmed town and one probabbly well used lynch here.
Two_old
ok you're going to need someone to translate your posts
Two_old
and mine apparently, to you
DeathxShinigami
Just saying that Two didn't buy my roleclaim even though it's 100% true. :P
Two_old
not sure what your post was for but yeah I don't buy it
Two_old
foulcoon, kiddo-kun, deathxshinigami - ignored me

animask, salvage, adam - refused to claim

I also have supposedly 4 total civilian claims

first of all, I want to say that I hate you all

second, I want to say that I hate the vigilante for being horrible (shoot chris pls)

third, why the hell are some of you trying to lie and say civilian, come on now

both animask and salvage brought up the guardian angel when talking to me - werewolf tell

animask and salvage both refused to claim - werewolf tell

salvage even went so far as to say that he wouldn't claim even if town was going to waste a lynch on him

as far as adam refusing to claim, he also refused to claim for absolutely no reason in the last wwg so it doesn't say much at this point except he is bad

oh and there's more than that that I'm not going to say at the moment


I'll give you all about 12 hours to roleclaim or correct a roleclaim you've given me
adam2046

Two wrote:

I'll give you all about 12 hours to roleclaim or correct a roleclaim you've given me
You don't dictate when I claim.

Also, people should be in IRC. What is this? Mafia?
Sleep Powder
Two: He is probably playing this werewolf game like his other ones. I guess I still find him weird since I've never really liked him in any of the games. I normally don't like roleclaiming on Day 1 so I'm going to possibly roleclaim on Day 2 unless something comes up. His aggressiveness makes me think he is a civilian due to him pressing on everybody so far.

Chris: Two finds him suspicious for hinting at being vigilante. The only role that can be mod confirmed. Two said he would confirm his role. It's possible that he meant confirming his role in a loose way (like claiming and giving results).

Salvage: I think he might actually be a civilian even though he was been playing with a lot of scum tells. If he's not that good at this game, he'll have to learn somehow.

Everyone else needs to talk mor---... No, you guys should post chat logs instead.

If I get NK'd, Two is probably the one to blame.

Vote: Chris

Seems to be the most suspicious to me besides Two. I think Two & Chris could be wolves. After Two hooks everyone in with roleclaims, he'll make everyone think that he is a civilian and kill all the good roles. Two is the most... aggressive and information seeking so he seems innocent for now.
Sleep Powder
When I said "most", I meant more innocent than Chris.
Lilac
Vote: Chris.

Fair enough.
Salvage

Two wrote:

salvage even went so far as to say that he wouldn't claim even if town was going to waste a lynch on him

Yeah that's not true, quote the PM's if you want .. i told you i'm not roleclaiming till i find you 100% trustable. :)


I just woke up btw.


vote: Chris



Chris wrote:

yay bandwagon
foulcoon
Sorry for not posting guys, I'm lacking internet at home right now for reasons unknown and I've been at work a lot with a stripped down workstation as I typically work via remote desktop (lol can't do that with no internet at home). << direct copy from other mafia game thread.

Basically I'm going to refuse to claim at this point in time as well. I get that mass role-claim's win games for town but with 4 civillian claims and 3 refusing to claim I find it highly unlikely everyone is telling the truth. There's also the possiblity that Two isn't who he seems.

Two: Is that 4 civilian claims other than yourself? Because I would find those people pretty fucking suspicious.

Also: can someone please show me where Chris said he was the vigilante?

Also also: FoS: Salvage, really dude? you might possibly be the worst werewolf ever LOL.

on second thought, fuck the FoS.

Vote: Salvage
foulcoon

animask wrote:

Seems to be the most suspicious to me besides Two. I think Two & Chris could be wolves. After Two hooks everyone in with roleclaims, he'll make everyone think that he is a civilian and kill all the good roles. Two is the most... aggressive and information seeking so he seems innocent for now.
I just saw this. What the fuck?
Two_old
I'm not going to find the post where chris claimed vigilante as I'm lazy and that's your job, but I will say this:

what makes you think your role is so special foulcoon? I already "know" the identity of numerous power role holders, and even if you don't have one it would behoove you, for the sake of the town, to tell me your role
foulcoon

Two wrote:

if I had to guess your role
I would say
Wolf Scaremongerer
Christopher says:
do you want me to confirm it
a says:
confirm what
Christopher says:
my role
a says:
are you roleclaiming vigilante
Christopher says:
lol
a says:
yes?
Christopher says:
I'm not roleclaiming anything you wolf
found it

I don't think he claimed he was the vigilante, I think you just saw it that way in your own mind and he went with it to fuck with you (that or he was just being a smartass saying he would confirm to you that he was the scaremonger).

And as far as roleclaiming to you goes, I have my reasons and if you can't respect that then I'll let you find me suspicious for now. I know you think you have "confirmed power roles" claimed to you but you can never been sure.
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