A few of the song's samples reference/are from pokemon so its in the tags
and yeah I can get that. The first half I wasn't so worried about regarding the chordjacking and moreso was I a bit weirded out by the second chorus as you called it. I personally don't really like changing up the style of a section just to add variety, since that variety should be achievable through pattern variation to a certain extent as it is and switching from LNs to chordjacks for what is the same sound kinda messes with the cohesion and structure of the chart. While I do disagree that the LNs and chordjacks are similar in difficulty (I feel as though the chordjacks are substantially harder, especially the ones in the second chorus) I guess I'd have to call on my own biases there and that sort of judgement would come down to what other people think about it as well. Either way, those are my main comments
and yeah I can get that. The first half I wasn't so worried about regarding the chordjacking and moreso was I a bit weirded out by the second chorus as you called it. I personally don't really like changing up the style of a section just to add variety, since that variety should be achievable through pattern variation to a certain extent as it is and switching from LNs to chordjacks for what is the same sound kinda messes with the cohesion and structure of the chart. While I do disagree that the LNs and chordjacks are similar in difficulty (I feel as though the chordjacks are substantially harder, especially the ones in the second chorus) I guess I'd have to call on my own biases there and that sort of judgement would come down to what other people think about it as well. Either way, those are my main comments
I'll also add onto this comment that this final product is certainly a lot better than when I initially played it a few months back (or whenever that was). After playing it a couple more times and looking at it a bit I'll stand by the whole difficulty inconsistency thing, on top of the fact that it feels like some of the choices in chordjack-esque patterns were a bit overdone in general, but the map is ok, the SVs are pretty neat for the most part, and the mapping that each of you two did separately was ok as well, I just think the combination of the two was done a bit poorly and leads to a bit of a jumbly experience
Hmmm, not the biggest fan of the chart (as I think you already know given I've told you that before). I have this odd feeling that this doesn't do enough with respect to merging the mapping styles of the two parties involved, enough to the point where it feels choppy and jarring to play at some points (an example that is arguably the worst offender would be what you did in the chorus where the first half is completely based on relatively simple LN patterns and halfway through arbitrarily switches to pretty dense chordjacking). This tended to make the chart very awkward in terms of the difficulty and consistency balance overall. I should say again, that I understand this is the result of it being a collab and the work of two very different mappers being put into one map but I'd still say the combination of the two styles could be more smoothly done to more effectively flow between sections/not have completely different ideas being used to represent the same sounds. If this showcase of different mapping styles was the goal of the map then it probably should have been two different difficulties, but I guess that's just my two cents.
I'll also add onto this comment that this final product is certainly a lot better than when I initially played it a few months back (or whenever that was). After playing it a couple more times and looking at it a bit I'll stand by the whole difficulty inconsistency thing, on top of the fact that it feels like some of the choices in chordjack-esque patterns were a bit overdone in general, but the map is ok, the SVs are pretty neat for the most part, and the mapping that each of you two did separately was ok as well, I just think the combination of the two was done a bit poorly and leads to a bit of a jumbly experience
kinda lost here tbh about what u mean by "in the chorus"
1st chorus? (00:44:523 - 01:37:489 - my part) i already put a bit of chordjack in between the ln for foreshadowing what is upcoming in the first kiai.
(and yea my part before the first kiai and entering first kiai has totally different sound)
(also i dont think we did switch the pattern arbitrarily given 01:33:351 - what ive done here has pretty much done to up-shadow the upcoming dense jack done by alternater)
I do agree with you that chordjack in the first chorus is a bit denser than what i did on the 2nd chorus. But again 1st kiai was being harder because sound itself is different (so im also lost again when u said it's the same sound although it's totally different)
2nd chorus? (04:07:289 - 04:43:703 - my part) yes sound is the same throughout the kiai so it's ALL done by me... (yea i transitioned semi technical inverse-ish ln into chordjack to gives variation ;make it less boring; and to not inflate sr or pp) I dont think chordjacking is pretty hard in that part (even in full context of the map, i would still considering this as a pp map) given the bpm is only 145 (referring memoria's 5.8* chordjack ranked map) (so i make a little spike towards the end) .it's not about different mapping style here, im doing it to offset what the SR has offered to the map.
players shouldnt have problem here since they have upcoming the denser chordjack in the first part with hp9.
bottom line here , this map is basically aimed to showcase two entirely different mapping style. (as arzenvald says, a ln and non ln sv hybrid?)
neato fc btw, nice
i was actually afraid this map couldnt be fc-ed but im totally wrong this time <3
thanks for the concern and the comments <3 we both know it's truly impossible to make everyone happy with a map especially this being a big ball of experimental things as evening said but in my opinion as long as the big majority of the community like it, it's all more than enough
and yeah I can get that. The first half I wasn't so worried about regarding the chordjacking and moreso was I a bit weirded out by the second chorus as you called it. I personally don't really like changing up the style of a section just to add variety, since that variety should be achievable through pattern variation to a certain extent as it is and switching from LNs to chordjacks for what is the same sound kinda messes with the cohesion and structure of the chart. While I do disagree that the LNs and chordjacks are similar in difficulty (I feel as though the chordjacks are substantially harder, especially the ones in the second chorus) I guess I'd have to call on my own biases there and that sort of judgement would come down to what other people think about it as well. Either way, those are my main comments
Alright I wasn't going to respond to anything on this disqus thread because I really couldn't be asked to before but I should say that you really shouldn't respond to people disliking the map in this manner. Frankly, it's rude and essentially ignores the opinion of someone who might actually have a valid concern. That being said, Aukubi (as well as anyone else doing the same thing), your comment is unnecessary as well. Not only does it add nothing to this disqus other than an outlet for people to spread hate toward the map, but it also gives literally no information on any reasoning you may have or constructive criticisms you would want the mapper(s) to gain out of your disliking of the map. Please, if anyone has serious concerns about the map and wants the mapper to know, tell the mapper(s) what your problem is with the map specifically, or at least post constructive comments rather than berating a map for what seems to be no reason. It will do nothing to keep complaining about horrible mapping if you aren't actually discussing what is wrong with it in the first place
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