deepfake

yeah i noticed that too lmao

the big wubs that have higher spaced snares after it are more intense, like the first wub of the section is like WAAAAAOW compared the next one after it which is just like bmmmm

yeah but for the intensity of the wubs, the difficulty of these sliders that follow them are still inconsistent, like for example 03:16:966 (1) - and 03:20:254 (1) - have the same type of wubs, and yet are very different with how they play. Another example would be 03:13:678 (1) - and 03:23:541 (1) -

I agree the spacing is a bit inconsistent, but how am I supposed to fix that without changing all of the sliders?

sliders are fine, just the placing of the objects that follow them are off imo

yeah but the placing of the following snares are based off of the slider shapes and movement etc. so to fix the spacing of the snares Id have to change the sliders as well

not really, you can move 01:49:562 (2) - to like x258 y384, or like 02:02:713 (2) - to like x138 y373 or smth like that

i wanna give my 2 cents on this

so i dont really think the inconsistency makes much of a difference, the fast sliders themselves imo is the biggest contributor to the difficulty

but i'd say it might be worth making the first instance of this 01:48:741 (1,2) - lower spaced so that players could be introduced to this

theres lowkey no where else i can put it

ctrl+g?

im assuming u mean ctrl g'ing the big slider, it works but I don't really like it and I think it throws off the movement

something like this maybe

that completely opposes the flow of the big slider though

flip the 2 in my suggestion then xd

I still dislike this but at this point maybe I should just change it idk

honestly the only reason i kinda want it changed is cuz

but i'd say it might be worth making the first instance of this 01:48:741 (1,2) - lower spaced so that players could be introduced to this

but it's not actually a big deal imo, just depends on how much you agree

it does make sense but as you said the kick sliders don't do much to affect the difficulty of the section anyways so if its up to me I think ill keep it as is

this was a lot but I think I got everything

sorry LOL I couldve just pasted it as one big block for you to replace but i like doing it this way so people can learn

wait i really like how that plays, the movement feels way better

The point of the intro section is to be unpredictable and sudden, to reflect the next section in the song where it sounds super ominous and eerie, and having a somewhat difficult section followed by a break is something that will throw the player off guard which is exactly what I wanted for this section. Also the guideline says "should" meaning there are instances where it can be justified and I don't think these create an unfitting rhythm because of the context i just mentioned as well as it's just a normal burst, not a complicated rhythm. If this is objectively unrankable though I will remove it

yeah but there are cases like this map which was considered unjustifiable so i pointed that out. if bns r okay with that then cool :3

ig I'll resolve this until a bn reopens it

gonna reopen this cuz #4729690 feels more concerned about the break instead of just the burst

so i dont think the 'unpredictable' idea is enough justification for this overmapped burst, imo this does negatively impacts the map, unfair gameplay for the players having to hit silent objects, and without preparations, while mapping-wise it kinda just disregards the song

'unpredictability' as a concept itself is pretty contentious with mapping, the ranking criteria and process are built to mitigate unfair gameplay elements (unjustified diff spikes etc), but this map already does some good things to give this unpredictable feeling. the high contrast fast sliders 01:48:330 (2,1) - are a great example of this, the sudden jump in sv could be considered unpredictable, but also something that would be considered fair in most mappers' eyes, while representing the song very well. this burst mapped to nothing kinda does the concept poorly, it doesnt necessarily reflect the song

imo just having the one circle on 00:00:449 - is good, id even dare say the single object here could be unpredictable on its own :)

okay............................................................................................

i think it's cool

okie dokie

changed to od 9 and hp 4.5

fixed all