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[4K] EINSAMKEIT
[4K] EINSAMKEIT guest difficulty by cai_ji_ccc
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00:04:331 (4331|2,4331|0,4438|3,4438|1,4545|1,4545|3,4545|0,4652|2,4652|0,4759|1,4759|2,4866|3,4866|1) - This was a little awkward to play, the way it relies a lot on split doubles during this segment and the strain on the left hand compared to the right makes it messy and a little sporadic. Suggestion:
- Something similar could be applied for 00:07:759 as it has similar playability concerns, how about this?
Last edited by Monoseul .
00:09:473 (9473|0) - This LN isn't representing what it's intended to, the sound gets interrupted by the kick which is really noticeable. In gameplay it feels a little weird, so I think som,ething like this would fit better:
00:18:688 (18688|3,18795|2,18902|0,18902|1,19116|3,19116|2) - I feel like since the melody here is soft and a solo to as a build up to the next segment, the doubles are a little much. How about doing something like this to represent the melody?
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00:21:473 (21473|3,21473|2,21581|0,21688|2,21795|0,21902|3,21902|1) - Since the synths change here to sound more "distorted", I do think you could change up the releases a bit to emphasis that. The current one in gameplay felt a little awkward to play and with its expression doesn't make the synths stand out.
Suggestion:
- Make them more connected to each other to highlight the change in the sounds. Would be more enjoyable to play and also make the synths stand out here.
Marked as resolved by cai_ji_ccc
00:38:831 (38831|1) - There's an intense rapid amen break here, I feel like one LN is a little underwhelming for this. How about doing something like this so it stands out but doesn't take away from the pattern after and still plays well?
00:41:188 (41188|3,41188|2,41295|3,41402|2,41509|2,41509|3,41616|3,41831|3,41831|2,42045|3,42045|2,42152|3,42152|2) - I feel like the way this plays on the right hand is a little irritating and makes for a rough transition with the patterns after. How about doing something like this?
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Reopened by Monoseul
hmmmm, actually i was applied ur suggestion, but used another pattern
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00:48:045 (48045|3,48045|1,48152|1,48152|3,48259|0,48259|2,48366|2,48366|0) - May just be me, but I find that this plays a little awkwardly. With the way 00:47:188 (47188|1,47402|1,47616|1,47723|1,47884|1) plays out, there's quite some strain and focus on the 2nd column, to the point that transitioning to the trill is awkward due to the finger already putting effort into holding two LNs before it in the same column. It's a pretty jarring transition.
Suggestion:
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00:54:902 (54902|3,55009|2) - The synths here are pretty significant, I don't think one LN would suffice for it. How about something like this?
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01:04:813 (64813|1,64920|3,65027|1,65134|3,65241|1,65348|3,65456|1), 01:06:527 (66527|3,66848|1) - I don't hear anything that these notes represent- it's not exactly accentuating any sounds either, it's just the breaks in this segment along with the 1/2 piano. These would be better off removed.
Instead, you could do something like this?
- The doubles emphasize the amen breaks and still represents the intensity well.
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01:06:045 - 01:07:223 There's a lot of strain on the right hand here, especially on the 3rd column when it comes to notes like 01:06:688 (66688|2,66795|2,66929|2,67009|2,67170|2) and 01:06:045 (66045|3,66152|3,66259|3,66366|3,66527|3,66688|3) which is really strenuous, even for the amen breaks. It's an abrupt spike in gameplay which is pretty irritating.
Suggestion:
Marked as resolved by cai_ji_ccc
-> An idea: I think you could emphasize the two different sounds in the melody by playing with the LN releases to show a visual distinction. How about something like this?
- The more "static" and "lower" notes of the melody could have a 1/4 gap between them to accentuate the connection between them and the difference from those notes and the regular melody on the right, which is a lot more clear. It's nice with gameplay as well.
- Some smaller suggestions with this could include 01:11:831 (71831|1) extended to 3/4 at 01:11:991
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01:24:152 (84152|2,84259|3,84366|2,84420|3,84473|2,84581|3,84688|3,84795|2,84902|3,85009|3) - This is really awkward in gameplay. The strain on the right hand when it comes to the 4th column makes the other patterns pretty jarring with the other fingers, and creates an uncomfortable effect in gameplay.
Suggestion:
- The added note at 01:24:206 is meant to emphasize the drumroll, and the stairs after switching to the left to show the difference from the drum to the rapid amen breaks.
01:25:331 - 01:26:188, 01:28:759 - 01:29:616, 01:32:188 - 01:33:045
I think the way the synths are being expressed along with the amen breaks could be done better, as well as gameplay. Some notes are subtle with its speed in what its intending to express, like 01:25:384 (85384|1), and LNs starting at 1/4 snap like 01:25:384 (85384|1) are a little odd considering the synths noticeably rise in a 1/2 progression. As a result, the gameplay felt weird.
How about something like this?
- The synths ending 1/4 earlier in their LNs was done for better flow with the patterns. That's up to you.
01:33:259 (93259|3,93259|1,93366|3,93473|1) - May just be me, but I think this would flow better in gameplay if it went like this:
01:50:402 (110402|1,110473|0,110616|0,110616|1,110831|0,110938|1,110991|0,111045|1) - The way the patterns play out in the left hand here is a little awkward, especially the way the OH trill on the left comes in at 01:50:938 (110938|1,110991|0,111045|1). It doesn't feel natural. How about something like this?
- It plays better in my opinion and is less strenuous on one hand.
I would make 01:53:188 (113188|3) - 01:53:616 (113616|0) - 01:54:045 (114045|2) - the same length to stay consitant with 01:52:759 (112759|0) - by rearanging the patterns a bit and making 01:53:402 (113402|1) - a 1/2 LN, because it doesn't need to be 1/1. Here is an example:
02:08:295 (128295|0,128509|0,128723|0) - The left hand repeats a trill-like pattern with the 1st column a lot here, which felt a little weird in gameplay. How about something like this?
- Side note: What's the LN at 02:08:723 (128723|0) meant to represent? I can't hear anything warranting an LN here.
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02:22:116 - 02:23:188 -> The way this plays out on the left hand is pretty rough due to how much trill-like patterns there are on the 1st column compared to the others, such as 02:22:116 (142116|0,142223|0,142331|1,142438|0,142545|1,142652|0,142759|0). It makes the transition to 02:22:973 (142973|1,142973|0,143081|0) awkward and a little irritating.
How about something like this?
- In gameplay this flows better with the music and the other patterns.
02:24:473 (144473|0,144473|2,144688|2,144688|0,144795|2,144795|0) - Considering the melody is at a high key here, I think it'd be more fitting to move these to col 4 to emphasize the high note with a [14] double.
Like this:
- Also I think it flows better in gameplay to avoid the bit of strain on the 3rd col
02:34:598 (154598|2,154652|1) - These are pretty intense kicks, I think doubles would work well in this case to bring out the strong impact here.
Could do this:
02:37:652 (157652|1,157759|1,157866|1,157973|1,158134|1,158295|1) - I think the way this plays out with your other patterns makes the 2nd col a little jarring and strenuous to play, especially with the transition to the left-handed trills at 02:37:973 (157973|1,158081|0,158134|1,158188|0,158295|1,158402|0,158509|1).
How about something like this?
03:31:170 (211170|1,211223|2,211331|1,211384|2,211491|1,211545|2) -
这里加一个ctrl+H会顺手很多，因为去掉了单手的小钩
而且翻过来还更有一致性一点
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03:31:652 - 03:32:188
-> The way this plays on the left hand is a little rough from how straining it gets with 03:31:759 (211759|0,211813|1,211920|1,211973|0,212081|1,212134|0,212188|1). It focuses a lot on trill-like patterns especially with the 2nd column, which breaks the flow of your streams here and plays a little awkward.
How about something like this?
04:18:002 (258002|3,258045|2,258116|2,258152|3) - This one handed trill was really uncomfortable to hit considering the speed and the patterns before it, as it creates a 1/3 jack in the process which creates rough and straining bias on the right.
Some rearrangement can be done to follow the intensity while still playing well. How about something like this?
