Shiten

similar to extra

similar ehh

Changed

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Ok so simply put this, not its not. Both hand of the piano are being played here, the constant 1/4 notes on the left hand/low notes and the 1/2 notes played on the right hand with higher pitch and the higher spacing emphasize those higher pitched sound on those notes 00:37:353 (3,5,7,1) -

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@Shani

Rotated instead of ctrl g but yeah make sense

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there def is it just quiet which is why it is spaced out like it is

dont the issue with current rhythm

yea i delete

yea will do

02:30:403 (1) - remove

02:53:285 (9) - add nc

04:40:573 (1) - and 04:45:997 (1) - remove

05:29:217 (6) - add

02:53:285 (1) - 04:40:573 (18) - 04:45:997 (17) - did those in my part

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Thats the section reset which is emphasized with the spacing. Not only that but with the piano stream here which is emphasize with already larger spacing and harsher movement of that stream, the increase in spacing to emphasize the vocal + the section reset, I think that jump make perfect sense

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I think you mean't to link 19 and if so i added nc since this 1 didn't make sense this big

sorta agree and this was part of my part so i decided to do this myself since no harm

The section is different and I wanted to emphasize the vocal like.. everywhere else while also building tension in this build up part. The lower spacing on the the drum help with that while the more spaced ones are on the vocals 01:45:149 (11,13) - 01:47:861 (9,11) -

personally I don't think the tension buildup justify the different pattern

I could make them something like this https://puu.sh/Cc4Af/d132e8711b.png but I just think it would be less fitting and make the whole build up idea of that section feel less relevant. Its also a super different section of the song so im not sure why it would have to be the same kind of stream has every other stream in the map

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We didnt use NC to indicate SV changes which makes this kinda irrelevant to the map..

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i disagree and i don't like using 5% lines and using it here be too inconsistent since i would need to use it for other 1/4 sliders

The way the vocal is a sudden vocal phrase reset and stronger from previous vocal line I believe justify this jump pretty well

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02:10:742 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - this one was fine

The change of direction for me wast to emphasize the addition of the violin. Also imo the one you point out in hailie's part is super underwhelming imo but guess thats just my opinion lol

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@Shani

I prefer having the stream start with the drum roll. It feels like this makes much more sense than having the 2 vocal before the stronger one have a weirdly higher amount of emphasis by just being 1/4 sliders

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Ctrl+g on this would give a super harsh and awkward motion to that 5 note burst which not only wouldnt change the emphasis given to 21 but would also just make it really weird to play

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@Shani

Gave a more similar spacing to be consistant yeah

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Sliders! Emphasizing how violin picks up here. Generally used circles when the vocals cover up the violin sounds and sliders when the violin get stronger

Actually should prolly change those 02:19:556 (1,2,3,4) - to slider to be consistant tho

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@Shani

I believe the current 1/4 jumps here emphasize the violin sound here really nicely having a small jump to the stronger sound here 02:15:496 (10) - and then another one to go into that violin double 02:15:750 (12,13) - although I fixed to make them more consistant with 02:20:750 (8,9,10,11,12,13) -

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If you read previous mods, I spaced 12 and 13 away but together as the violin start plays that 3/4 gap which I just emphasized by jumping into it. So thats why and same for the other one

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the jump for the third vocal to be more emphasized here, also the way the vocal is a sharp sound doesnt fit with being a slider and thats why I also cut the motion to move in a 90 degree angle out of that triple to emphasize that

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If you read previous mods, I spaced 12 and 13 away but together as the violin start plays that 3/4 gap which I just emphasized by jumping into it. So thats why and same for the other one

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adjusted it so it don't overlap

changed it around a bit - i didnt map the sound there tho

it fits just perfectly fine with the song and how most of the sliders is in the song. It hard for me to change since a normal slider would look more out of place than this slider to me

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I don't know about sliders but I did decided to change the shape of the stream to be a more clear and smoother feeling to play instead

02:42:014 (23,24,25,26) - same here

02:44:726 (6,7,8) -

The changes here is kind of similar to the how the pentagon streams are in the top diff. I wanted this to express the vocals with how the movement is which i believe the map is intense of here to represent thaat.

don't see the reason to ctrl+g and make this feels hard :/

i prefer it as it is now

feels like its ok, because its not first time this pattern appears

how is bad for reading a problem? how how to fix it. tbh isn't this a 7* map lol

First ''bad for reading'' how is it bad for reading would prolly make more sense not too sure what you mean, the same pattern happens just a few sec before. Also, its not like that kind of spacing didnt happen multiple times before and after in the map so.. dont really see how thats so much randomly harder to read than everything else?

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02:53:370 (2) - Strong drum bigger spacing 02:53:454 (3) - Vocal bigger spacing 02:53:539 (4) - Weak drum smaller spacing 02:53:624 (5) - Voca back to bigger spacing. Still a pentagon just squashed cuz of the way I wanted it to be emphasized. Other pentagon one also have the piano sound supporting them being equal in hailie's part

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I love how, I make a looping stream with some sort of visual cohesion and people tell me its bad x) The intention wasnt to necessarly have a square but its cohesive the the general ''geometry'' stream thing that happen in hailie's kiai part and it gives the looping motion that I wanted to create here. If the fact that its a square tilt you I can make it a loop with no square I really dont mind but I think it makes more sense as it is

there is visual cohesion but it is only present in the drum fills. everything else mainly defies cohesion (even the pattern of two circles leading into vocal slider have some problems but those are less significant) but even going with the geometry I have to ask: why square?

The idea was that from 9 start moving downward in its ''loop'' motion to hit the strong vocals on at the bottom of the loop. It could have just not been geometrical to reach that purpose or it could have been a triangle, I just opted for a square here because it felt the most natural to reach the loop motion I wanted.

Honestly not sure why you're asking me why a square. I believe most jump maps dont need to explain why a star or why an hexagon when they make patterns even when the pattern doesnt reach the full hexagon or star that question just seems really random and I dont see why I have to justify myself doing that so much

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Should be fixed now

ok

Can do this

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I may be wrong but there are sounds of the violin (?) or some stuff thats empathised by spacing

the general spacing is a decrease as the song is calming down to enter the calm section while I emphasize this sound 02:58:200 (7) - cuz vocal+piano here with the largest spacing and piano sound here 02:58:370 (9) - smaller but still bigger. I guess I could nerf it a little if required but generally yeah spacing make sense

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adjusted

The spacing here make sense as a transition between the vocal lines and the change in vocalist happening there in the song

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its following the other instrument which is extended to the blue tick.

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On that section I overlapped the repeating vocal syllable so 5 ko 6 ko 7 ro 5-5 overlap 03:30:573 (18,19) - same idea here and on that section theres no other time syllable repeat it might be a bit dumb but I think it was a cute way to represent vocals in that section

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03:48:709 (7,8,9,10,1) - Those are part of a violin stream so you jump to it and which peaks here 03:49:048 (1) - with the vocal

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And emm talked about it a bit but basicly the spacing isnt a huge increase from previous spacing and the climax of the vocal line increasing in spacing make sense. Still tried to reduce 03:52:776 (5,6,1) - a little but really hard to do more without breaking the current augment in spacing much

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There is some shaker sound behind it

Piano glissando to be exact

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Snapped to 1/16 for the glissando. buffered to 1/8 for playability

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a program tells me that its unsnapped; expand the slider and ctr z and the map still asks you to save

make sure to do it in 1/16 or the slider will dissapear

this is not unsnapped

you are unsnapped

opps

adjusted

Its not much harder than things like those 04:19:387 (18,19,20) - and definitly deserve more emphasis than those sounds so yeah

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k shani replied to the wrong point. i changed this btw

adjusted a bit more

im not sure what is the issue here since the patterns after this 1 plays the same way and i think fits well for intense vocals

well i did intentionally did wanted to make this sorta more challenging to emphasis the vocals. i could however changes this but i believe what i have fits better in term of emphasizing the song here. maybe if someone else come along and disagree with me i dont mind but i prefer it like it is

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04:41:251 (21,22,23) -

04:47:268 (24,25,26,27) -

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i'm tired i don't want to go through this any more

I guess this one doesnt make much sense 04:41:251 (21,22,23) - and should be changed but all the other ones are kinda randomly pointed out and are to emphasize vocals for some of them and some others are to emphasize more impactful drum beats

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I dont really hear that 1/4? Atleast not in the drums sound that im mapping to through that entire section

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sorta like the one in 02:33:115 (1)

there is indeed something there and fits just fine with how the song is here (remember this is a collab and we have some different interpretations )

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