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00:03:546 (3546|0) - There is no point extending this ln further, stay consistent with 00:01:203 - where there isnt any arbitrary excess ln hold.

Leaving the release at 00:03:703 - is good enough

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I have decreased the ln lenght

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00:05:890 (5890|2) - this isnt a vocal, and though you may have intended to emphasize this piano note. It really isnt a strong reason to make an inconsistency as the piano does not have anything extraordinary like an increased volume. Recommend turning it to rice

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The ln has been changed with a normal note

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00:06:203 (6203|1,6203|0) - Minor thing but could a 1/16 grace work? This chord here sounds more gracey compared to the others.

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I think that would feel kind of weird, so I will keep the pattern as a 1/4 double. We can discuss about this part on discord if you want

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00:10:265 (10265|0) - no vocal. Turn to rice (#3884820)

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The ln has been turn into a normal note

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00:13:546 (13546|0) - why inconsistent with the vocal emphasis. this should be an ln

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The problem has been solved by making the note a 1/2 ln.

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00:13:703 (13703|1,13703|0,13703|3) - No bell here, consider turning this into dooooble instead

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Done that, thanks

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00:16:515 (16515|2) - Would recommend moving this to col 1 (1|2|3|4) to avoid this 00:16:203 (16203|2,16515|2) - it feels more heavy in the middle without much reason.

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Thanks for pointing that out <3

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00:17:765 (17765|3,17921|0,18234|2) - Why are the lns detached here? The releases should be connected like you did with all the previous parts.

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Whoops

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00:28:703 - could be turned into a triple due to bell

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Done

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00:31:203 to 00:40:010 - This entire thing switches from rice to ln even though there is no apparent change in the song. It feels like this is there for the sake of it and nothing else. Would suggest revamping this entire part, and focus more on the background synths 00:35:056 - 00:35:606 -

The rest of it could just be rice, with the exception of 00:39:047 - as the instrument switches here.

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done

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There should be more LN build-ups than 00:43:863 (43863|3,43863|2,44414|1,44414|0) - to prepare 00:46:684 (46684|3,46753|2,46753|1,46822|0,46891|3,46891|2,46959|1,47028|2,47028|0,47097|3,47166|1,47166|2,47235|0,47303|2,47303|3,47372|1,47441|2,47441|0,47510|3,47579|0,47579|1,47647|2) -. Either the LN stream at 00:46:684 - should be removed since it's totally out of place or there should be more LNs expressed the same sounds.

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from 01:03:490 - , same.

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Done

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00:47:716 - I find the dump here to be extremely mismatching to the scream in the song.

Would suggest removing these two 00:47:762 (47762|1,47808|2) - and when the vocal cuts back in at 00:47:854 - start using 1/4, increase to 1/6 when the vocal becomes stronger, and then use strong emphasis on the drums at 00:48:267 - to provide some contrast.

Something like this:

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I have done the pattern as in your example.

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00:48:267 the drums here being completely ignored doesnt sit right with me considering the drums here are way louder than the voice

i'd recommend doing something like this

you could also play around with the pattern itself if you feel like doing so

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doneh

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00:48:680 (48680|3) - Nothing here warrants an ln. Rice

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ricyy

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01:04:208 (64208|3,64273|0,64338|3,64403|0,64469|3) -

The lns provide no value throughout the entire buildup and the 1/8 combined with these lns feel more awkward to hit. Rice?

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You are right, i have fixed that issue

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The distance of release at 01:05:338 (65338|2) - and the next LN at 01:05:425 (65425|3) - would be considered as a difficulty spike. 01:05:338 (65338|2,65382|1) - these two LNs should be shortened their length to avoid spike issue.

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Made the ln smaller, thank you

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01:05:338 (65338|3,65360|2,65382|1,65425|3,65469|0) - This is not right. This should just be simplified to 1/6, there isnt any fancy grace in between or anything related to that.

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Do it like how you did 01:21:947 -

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fixed

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From 01:22:208 - to the end of this song, I doubt using 1/4 long notes for every synthesizer sound was a good idea, since eventually you had to spam the jumptrill, which lacked the diversity of patterns' structures, for instance, 01:31:860 (91860|2,91860|3,91925|0,91925|1,91990|3,91990|2,92056|1,92056|0,92121|2,92121|3,92186|1,92186|0,92251|3,92251|2,92316|0,92316|1) - jumptrill like this have made the contrast of expression between normal notes and 1/4 LNs became nothing

Reduce 1/4 LNs to normal notes under common sense to keep the contrast between 1/4 LN and normal notes since currently the purpose of expressing sounds in 1/4LNs had no difference from normal notes.

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since 01:22:208 to 01:38:903 is my part i took over modding this specific part

removed lns from the jumptrills to differentiate them and create a contrast between them and the normal sections with jumpstreams, only exception being 01:36:816 and 01:37:469 to create a contrast between the jumptrill with no pitch changes from 01:36:556 and the jumptrills which i previously stated to be exceptions which do indeed have pitch changes

will not solve yet, will let lowuki solve when hes ready with the rest of the chart

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Thank you for looking over that part, Mich_. I have checked over his work and I will consider it fixed.

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01:43:306 - There is no 1/4 here yet at the same time this is a continuous 1/4 stream. Similar issue to #3884859

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Fixed. I also made the jumptrills rice because after rewatching the part, i realised it had no purpose

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seems there was no reason about 02:14:434 (134434|0,134467|1,134500|2,134533|3,134565|0,134598|1,134631|2,134664|3) - and the LN releases from 02:14:369 - had to be difficult due to normal notes in the middle. Try avoid applying unnecessary ghost normal notes to make a reasonable contrast between different sounds. Such ghost notes have eventually made useful normal notes expressing actual sounds like 02:16:694 (136694|2,136727|1,136760|0,136825|1,136858|2) - became nothing.

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I have fixed this issue by replacing the notes on 1/4 and by making them a 1/4 ln

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02:21:442 - If I were to be honest, this part is extremely overdone, the music is not even that loud, yet this is such a dense jack section already. I would recommend lowering the density and using this kind of density for the later similar drop 02:41:338 - where it becomes stronger rather than using lns as a substitude

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solved, lns from 02:56:261 onward were left as they represented the voice samples

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From 02:40:095 - to 03:01:235 - , similar to #3882654, I think those patterns lack reasons to have additional 1/4 LNs, as they didn't really bring the difference in playing but a sloppy visual difference in notes only.

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solved, lns from 02:56:261 onward were left as they represented the voice samples (reply copy pasted from the other mod as it is essentially the same fix)

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03:31:079 - Why is this full inverse and 03:21:131 - has breaks in between when both areas sound exactly the same. There is no reason to warrant such a huge change in patterning.

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I have fixed 03:21:131 by making them a 1/4 ln note.
About 03:31:079. I though of making it full inverse because from 03:01:262 to 03:38:563 the density was getting bigger and bigger, from normal lns to full inverse. My only justification is that i want to make the map get harder and herder by progressing more and more into it. You can see that I have done something similar with 05:25:430-05:42:098 (mostly hybrid), 05:42:098-05:54:642 (mostly ln) even tho the song barely changed. We can discuss more about that on discord. Thank you

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04:18:372 (258372|1,258411|2) - these sounds dont actually exist, you should delete those and add a note on col 2 at 04:18:333 so it becomes a simple double

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doneh

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04:25:483 (265483|1,265483|0) - why are these softer drum sounds being represented with these doubles when right before that 04:24:240 (264240|1,264240|0) - this exact same pattern was used to represent a much more distinct and powerful drum sound

this is an issue i see yet again throughout the entirety of that section, pls look over it again and try to stick to a structure of

softer sound = one note / powerful sound = 2 notes / even louder sound = 3 notes

or something along those lines

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04:29:214 (269214|0,269214|1,269369|1,269369|0) - this problem actually becomes even worse with these notes

exact same pattern as previously stated in the other 2 timestamps but this time its used to represent a voice, something that was previously established by the section to be represented by lns

i'd personally do something like this but again you should play around with the patterning if you feel like doing so

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doneh

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05:25:403 - make the green line have no kiai and make the red line have kiai

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doneh

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06:17:642 (377642|1,377707|2,377707|3,377772|0,377837|1,377902|2,377902|3,377968|0,378033|1,378098|3,378163|1,378163|2,378163|0,378229|3,378294|1) - not really difficult as they look, but it doesn't hide the fact that the extentions of LN's length there have inflated SR lol. Reduce their length under common sense so it could somehow still match the consistency with patterns at 06:16:272 (376272|0,376305|1,376337|2,376370|3) - .

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LN patterns from 06:23:837 - to 06:31:859 - however, there's gonna be no excuse. Simply spike and SR inflation, that's what they are. defo will be considered as a difficulty spike. The difficulty of release on every LN pattern there should be redone. Same as what I purposed early at #3882647. Start with shortening the LN's length.

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I have fixed the Ln patterns issue from 06:17:591 by reducing their length. Another change that I have done is adding a little bit of 1/4 lns on 06:15:477-06:17:446 and 06:19:743-06:21:759 for reducing the jump in SR.
Another change is that all the 1/6 lns from 06:23:837 have been change with a normal note, and all the lns from 06:25:909-06:28:076 and 06:30:107-06:31:239 have met a length reduction, lowering the SR from 7.9 to 7.33.

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