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00:00:203 (203|1,203|3,203|2,369|3,369|2,369|0,536|2,536|3,536|1) -
这里都三押是不是有点过了,明明只有fuwafuwa这种轻飘飘的音在

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包括后面的类似三押也一样,我感觉都有点overmap
对比来看,我认为00:00:703 - 更需要多一个note来表现

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建议配合 #3848097 一起看
00:01:369 (1369|0,1369|3,1369|1,1703|3,1703|1,1703|2,1869|0,1869|3,1869|2) - 这里的333LN还有一个问题是,割舍掉了本来的1/4 stream,这种stream转叠的段落感和割裂感很影响体验
所以最好有一个能保留1/4 stream的写法

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可以

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00:01:703 (1703|2,1703|3) - isn't stronger than 00:01:869 (1869|0,1869|1) relatively so maybe u could delete ln on col4 to reveal it clearly

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00:03:203 (3203|2,3203|0) - also could delete ln on col3

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00:01:869 (1869|0,1869|1) - the real vocal sounds can be heard on 00:01:925 so think it needs to be adjust there to express accurate

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00:02:324 (2324|1,2324|3) - If you follow the vocal, it's more nature to make it at 1/4 snap imo. (00:02:268). Seems that current one it too late

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00:03:369 按照你之前的逻辑来看,这里应该是双押。
我建议这条配合第一条mod来看,看看有无remap这一段的需要

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参考 #3848118
已经改成1/4 stream了

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00:05:369 (5369|1,5369|0,5703|1,5703|3) - 这一段的很多double感觉都有点没必要,没有任何额外的音来支持。
其他的比如 00:16:036 (16036|0,16036|2,16369|0,16369|1) - 00:22:036 (22036|3,22036|0,22369|2,22369|1) -

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00:12:369 (12369|0) - think this is inconsistent with other vocal expressions so need to delete this imo

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deleted this and 02:21:703 -

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00:19:369 - also need to add ln cuz of the consistency of 00:08:703 (8703|3)

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00:22:453 (22453|3,22474|2,22536|1,22557|0) - 个人感觉这个grace有点过于保守了,实际的音要比这个1/16长不少。
可以试试增大grace间隔,或者把这几个note改成面

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00:22:557 (22557|1) - how about moving it on col 3 to make anchor? by following this proposal, this swing sounds will be able to be revealed more clearly

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ok

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fixed

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00:22:869 (22869|1,22869|3,22869|0) - vs 00:23:036 (23036|2,23036|3,23057|0,23203|1,23203|0,23224|2) -
前者有重音三押很合理,但是后者有grace的近似三押,带来的压力是类似的,同时这个bpm的3131叠也不是很好打
一个建议:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18718822/894d

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我觉得可以

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00:23:435 (23435|3,23456|1,23518|3,23601|0,23622|2,23685|0) - I think it's a little bit overmapped, it's just 2 loud synth here, so no need to use grace + anchor pattern imo.
Maybe sth like this should enough

00:22:956 (22956|2) - Maybe you use a grace to express the sound, but seems the minijack at 00:22:872 (22872|2,22956|2) - is somewhat unnecessary, you can make this one to col2 for a better visual and hand control.

00:23:101 (23101|3,23143|1,23185|2) - If you want to express that loud buzz sound, I think they should 1/8 earlier and start at 00:23:060

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00:28:203 (28203|1) - 应该是LN?

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00:28:453 (28453|2) - 这应该是个米吧

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00:25:536 (25536|2,25786|0) - 00:30:869 (30869|1,31119|0) - 这些其实没必要弄个LN出来 比实际音长太多了 而且这些和00:25:619 (25619|3,26203|2,26286|1) - 其实是一样的

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点错了

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中间重复的休息段有相同的问题

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00:32:453 (32453|1,32536|1) - think this anchor break the consistency of stream so to be consistent, it'd better for ln on col2 to move to col1

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00:32:703 (32703|2,32703|1) - 感觉没有必要dump出来两个LN
00:33:203 (33203|1,33203|3) - 按照之前的逻辑应该是一个note而不是两个
00:32:869 (32869|3,32953|1) - vs 00:33:203 (33203|1,33286|0) - 也有一致性问题

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00:32:935 (32935|0) - Is it really necessary to just leave a 1/6 space with 00:33:435 (33435|0) - ? I think 1/4 is fine.

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00:33:619 这里有音 你可能为了避免更多的连点就没有对 但是我觉得可以
因为你可以在四轨上放一个米 这样就和 00:33:786 (33786|0,33869|0) - 很近的地方对称了

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好的 02:42:953 - 这里是不是也一样

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后半部分重复的地方都是一样的

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A section that retains the triple used in the previous section and is transformed into a hand stream rather than a broken stream in its structure. However, the weight of the pattern remains too high, even though it is not the burst part of the song.

sol) With the idea of destroying consistency to some extent, I think that the length of the LN is changed to a double of the same length as 00:28:536 (28536|1,28536|3), and the small drum sound with a double, such as 00:35:869 (35869|0,35869|2), is changed to the most typical type of drum beat.

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fxied

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00:34:101 - Too dense and hard to control... minijack + LN control will kill people.
I think pattern like this is totally enough

02:43:435 - Same

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00:35:953 (35953|1,36036|1) - 00:36:453 (36453|1,36536|1) - 两次连点都在同一个轨道上面,这个其实是可以避免的 (00:38:869 (38869|1,38953|1,39119|2,39203|2) - 其实你这里就做得很好)
只需要 00:36:286 (36286|2,36286|1,36453|2,36453|1,36536|1) - Ctrl+H

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00:35:953 (35953|1,36036|1) - 这里的盾显得十分随机,我没有看出来有什么特别的原因这么放

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改了

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00:36:453 (36453|2,36536|2)
00:36:453 (36453|1,36453|2) - 这个双押显得十分overmap,而且在这种近乎反键的密度下放盾,游玩体验会很不好
建议直接移除多余note

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00:36:703 - 从这里开始背景的连续1/4鼓点就已经可以写出来了
00:36:786 / 00:37:119 / ...

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00:37:185 (37185|0) - No sound here, also make the pattern mixed with the synth sound, which is a little bit messy to me, I think can be deleted.

00:37:518 (37518|3) - 00:38:851 (38851|0) - 00:38:851 (38851|0) - etc. Same. Until 00:42:435, I hope you can nerf the similar case like this.

In a word, I think you should drop some unnecessary note to make it more clear and don't mix everything together.

Similar with 02:43:768-

能看出来你是想做一个渐进,你也可以用这个理由keep,我单纯是觉得这样子塞全都混在一块儿看着不是很舒服(

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ok

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00:46:786 (46786|0) - also could be moved to col4

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good seem better

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00:42:703 (42703|3,42786|3) - 可以移动到3轨,你这一片连点没有在3轨的 可以换位置

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00:43:286 (43286|1) - makes hard to play delay pattern imo cuz of the anchor so how about moving it to col3?

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ok

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00:43:369 (43369|0,43369|3) - there's no sound that is worth arranging double so recommend deleting col1 to maintain roll pattern

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ok

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00:44:703 (44703|0) - 建议删除这个,因为这里音没有那么的重。而且这里是1/8 180bpm 单手切 这在5星图里面是很离谱的

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中间重复的休息段有相同的问题

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02:54:036 - 这里吗 一起改了

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( including all structures that looks like this ) 00:45:869 (45869|3) - can delete this to emphasize 6 snap drum imo

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ok

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00:53:619 (53619|1,53619|2) - 双押应当提前1/4

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00:54:101 (54101|1) - Have kick here, so double is proper.

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fixed

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00:54:786 - 考虑在这里放一个note?

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00:56:203 (56203|3,56286|2) - 考虑到全图只有这一段有1/8短面 我建议把这两个短面写成同列子弹

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这里我想保留我的态度 我放短LN认为 00:56:203 (56203|3,56286|2) - 和00:56:369 (56369|3) - 的音效是不同的要做一点区分

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00:57:703 这里的鼓点没有map出来

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感觉没位置放了

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01:03:268 (63268|0,63351|1,63351|3,63351|2) - It's weird to drop the snare at 01:03:435, maybe you should repattern this part a bit.
00:58:101
01:00:768
01:08:768
01:11:435
01:14:101

Also the following part like 03:12:768

想造型可以,但是别把主音都给扔了啊,你哪怕放一个淡雅意思意思好歹也是摆了,这完全空着,我不是很能接受。

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01:06:036 (66036|1,66036|0,66036|2) - 这里双押就行了 强度明显不够三押 而且还和前面带鼓点的一致了 区分度太低

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是这样的 这里没有鼓

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01:06:601 - The synth sudden stop here, so I think it will be nice if change 01:06:601 (66601|1) - to a normal note to express that sudden stop feeling.

03:15:935

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ok changed

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01:14:203 / 01:14:286 /...
这里还是能听到一些声音的 建议map出来

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改成double了

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ok fixed

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01:17:536 (77536|1,77536|2) - can delete col3 cuz anchor on col2 can make emphasis about synth

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01:26:203 (86203|2,86203|1) - unnecessary double imo cuz drum sound is weaker than 01:26:286 or 01:26:036 so could delete col2

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01:17:953 (77953|2,77994|3,78036|2) - 01:20:619 (80619|1,80661|0,80703|1) - 01:25:953 (85953|1,85994|0,86036|1) -
360bpm切 真的太离谱 你可以为了一致性牺牲一点的 改成双押就好了

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后半段有相同的问题

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01:18:869 (78869|1,78869|0) - 这里和前面不一样,没有鼓点的,single即可

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01:18:953 按照你之前的思路,这里应该有一长一短两根LN

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01:24:685 (84685|3,84768|3) - I can't see the reason to make here a minijack, maybe things like this is enough

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fixed

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01:26:203 - 这里感觉还是overmap

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01:26:286 (86286|0,86286|3) - 比 01:26:369 (86369|1,86369|3,86369|0) - 更明显 但是押数反而更少了

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我觉得他们应该是一样的 我都写3押了

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01:26:869 (86869|0,86981|1,87092|2) - doesn't match real sound

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01:27:369 - 这里开始的一段的一些想法
感觉所有爆发都放到4/8 5/8 6/8有点过于采音不够,尤其是在 4/8 6/8上已经有明显鼓点的情况下。
而且这里的重音逻辑应当和你前面的逻辑一致,即00:55:369 - 这一段的逻辑,三押更多用于表现合成的高音。
一个提议:采用更温和的1/6 dump,dump出来这种高音。
当然也可以用其他方法,我的建议只是“dump体现出来有采音”
截图:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18718972/7be4

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这段我做1/8的原因是 后面有一段人声dump是1/4混1/6 稍微做一下区分

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01:29:369 (89369|2,89369|0,89369|3) - 根据一致性 这里是双押吧

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好的 改了

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01:47:036 (107036|0,107036|1,107036|2) - 双押 这里没有三押的理由我认为 还是一致性的问题吧

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01:47:869 - why didnt u express this synth sound? think u wanted to have structure on release but the synth pitch is loud not enough to be able to ignore so need at least on ln imo

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01:48:369 (108369|3,108369|0,108369|1) - 这里只有一个重音 和之前不一样 没有必要整release了 所以我建议它们全部在 01:48:536 停止

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01:48:703 - 这一段的一些想法
排列还是偏难。180子弹叠直接转270卡手乱有点小spike。
一个卡手排列的举例:01:48:703 (108703|1,108758|2,108814|1,108869|2,109036|2,109147|2,109258|0,109369|0,110203|1,110314|1,110369|0,110481|0) -
建议人声dump可以只保留前几个1/6,后面依旧写回1/4。
可以削弱的:01:49:092 (109092|0,109147|2,109203|1,109258|0,109314|3) -
01:50:425 (110425|2,110481|0,110536|1,110592|2,110647|0) -
01:52:425 (112425|2,112481|0,112536|1,112592|3,112647|2) - 等等
同时把过于卡手的地方处理掉

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01:49:369 - 这里开始的红线没有歌词,应当还是1/6dump段,并去除红线double

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01:52:203 (112203|2,112258|3,112314|0,112369|1,112369|2,112425|3,112481|0,112536|1,112592|3,112647|2) - cuz this section is the end of vocal, what about arranging just 4 snap stream?

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01:52:869 (112869|2,112869|3,113203|0,113203|2,113536|3,113536|0,113869|2,113869|1) - single 这里压力已经不小了,并且没有double的必要

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01:53:786 (113786|0) - 这个移动到四轨道比较好,因为01:52:703 (112703|0,112786|0,113036|1,113119|1,113369|2,113453|2) - 一 二 三轨都已经有连点了

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01:56:268 (116268|3) - According to you pattern in this part, 1/6 for vocal dump and double for snare and vocal, right? So I think here should have a double, also cuz the perious vocal already end at 01:56:101, so it's more proper to change 01:56:157 (116157|2,116213|1) - to 1/4 snap.

02:06:935
04:05:601
04:16:268

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01:58:119 (118119|0) - 移动到 三轨 ,
01:58:203 (118203|1,118203|3) - 变成左手的单手双押到一二轨,
01:59:119 (119119|1) - 移动到一轨,
这样你的连点就平衡了,同时连点之后接另一个手的双押也有了一致性。

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好 感谢

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02:03:453 (123453|3) - 移动到二轨,
02:03:786 (123786|0) - 移动到四轨,
02:04:119 (124119|1) - 移动到三轨,
02:04:453 (124453|3) - 移动到一轨。
平衡连点的轨道的同时,每次连点之前都是另一只手在切,也是一致性

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02:08:203 (128203|3,128203|2) - need to move to 02:08:286 cuz of the notes' sync issue and think 02:08:536 should have at least double ( my wish is to arrange triple ) cuz there's a drum sound that cannot be ignored so how about rearranging like

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02:08:203 (128203|2,128203|3) - should be on 02:08:286 to follow the snare sound

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ok

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02:09:036 是不是漏了

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02:09:369 (129369|0,129397|1,129425|2,129453|3) - if u don't express synth on 02:09:369 to 02:09:869, it'd better to arrange just triple on 02:09:369 to reveal clear expression

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02:10:018 - Although it's vocal based patter, have a loud background sound here, seems that you'd like to catch almost all sound, so maybe you can add a 1/4 LN here.

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02:32:956 (152956|0,153018|2) - Similar with 00:23:435 - the minijack here is somewhat unnecessary to me.

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改成1/4 LN了

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03:06:369 (186369|1,186369|0) - better to delete these cuz at this timestamp, synth is faint to listen

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03:06:703 (186703|2,186703|3,186703|0,186703|1,186953|0,186953|3,186953|1,186953|2,187203|0,187203|3,187203|1,187203|2) - 强度明显不够四押,而且这里音阶变化是 低 高 高 (后两次高是相同的音阶),四押很难从play上体现出这种变化。
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18671986/2137

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03:58:490 (238490|1,238546|2) - Maybe you can repattern this part a bit to avoid 03:58:268 (238268|1,238490|1) -

Also 01:48:935 (108935|2,109157|2) -

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04:18:703 (258703|3,258724|2,258744|1,258765|0,258869|3,258890|2,258953|0,258974|1,259036|2,259057|3,259203|0,259224|1,259244|2,259265|3) -

首先我认为这里04:18:703 (258703|3,258744|2,258786|1,258828|0) - 都是1/8而不是这么密 这里音明显拉得更长(当然这一点可能你这里写法不是按照我想的来的)

其次,这个部分04:19:203 (259203|0,259224|1,259244|2,259265|3) - 不是四押,而是和04:18:869 (258869|3,258890|2,258953|0,258974|1,259036|2,259057|3) - 一样的双押,只是背景有别的特殊音而已
所以如果是我,我愿意把04:19:203 (259203|0) - 变成LN,停止于04:19:369

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04:28:869 (268869|0,268953|2,269203|2,269286|3) - inconsistent though they're same sound so think it'd better to arrange them to 4 snap ln like

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04:39:369 (279369|2,279369|3) - dunno this double intention cuz here has very minor drum sound that can be arranged just to one ln so for this, how about deleting rice on col3?

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ok

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04:41:101 - Can triple for the cymbal.

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fixed

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05:01:703 (301703|3,301703|0,301744|1,301786|2,301828|3) - 建议Ctrl+H , 因为这里音阶是从高到低的

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