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00:11:408 (11408|8,11408|0,11408|4) - why triple here? no extra instrument or melody is presented here. should be double just like before

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00:14:499 Since you always split jacks in different hands in the previous section, I think it would be reasonable to apply it here as well. sth like this may work https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17798693/bae7 , it reduces the stress on left hand and it also forms a nice symmetrical patterning with the previous jack too

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changed as your suggested

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00:15:680 There's also a consecutive bass piano sound here that could warrant a jack, see if you wanna make the spread more noticeable by adding it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17798703/f5bf (I also adjusted some notes prior to this part, it would match nicely with #3074210 but there's always another way to arrange this)

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take the reference but crtl H the second part to differentiate pitch and not making right side too overwhelmed with 1/4 on the following part

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00:18:862 (18862|3) - What about moving this note to col 1 (1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10) so that it resonate with all these parts 00:06:862 (6862|3,6862|6,7044|5,7044|1,7226|3,7226|6) - / 00:09:771 (9771|3,9771|5,9953|9,10135|5,10135|3) - etc. If you apply this you can make a 1-2-3 roll at 00:18:862, this would maintain the left->right hand motion and can bring out the emphasis as well.
ss: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17798772/01b3

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easily done

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00:19:317 This one should be single like 00:16:408 (16408|2) -

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col[7] only now

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00:21:771 (21771|4,21862|2,21953|1,21953|3,22135|2,22135|0) - This bracket might be a bit too straining considering there's a fast alternating preceeding to it at 00:21:317 (21317|2,21499|2,21590|1,21680|2,21862|2) - . You could spread it a little bit to make it more balance overall like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17798790/f5a2 , the fast alternations+bracket (left hand) balances out the jack (right hand)

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your screenshot provide a wider bracket use that will benefit the hand balance so gladly took it!

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00:21:771 (21771|5) - moving this note to col 7 makes the entire pattern less clustered, and it reduces the overall tension.

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can do

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00:22:680 Just asking to make sure, is this intentionally made as double to express the decrease of intensity or an inconsistency? If not then I think adding a note at col 10 would complete the pattern
If you apply this you might wanna adjust 00:23:044 (23044|8) - to col 7 or somewhere else that doesn't involve too much outer-columns trills.

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the piano chord have less elements than the previous triples that's why

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00:24:317 (24317|4,24408|4,24499|5) - How about Ctrl+H these so that the jacks lie on the same hand? The jacks in this specific song and map isn't the main component and I think over stressing them with two hands is a bit difficulty overall. By ctrl+H them you also get to preserve the motif like this 00:23:680 (23680|2,23771|0,24044|2,24135|0,24408|2,24499|0) -, which I think its benefits would out weigh the tensions.

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ya

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00:24:862 ~ some PR stuff

00:25:590 (25590|9) - could use col 9 to match with the chord at 00:24:862 (24862|3,24862|1) -

If you moved ^ this note then you'd probably wanna move 00:25:862 (25862|8,25953|6) - one column to the right, based on your idea of having minimal stacks.

00:26:226 (26226|9,26317|7) - This could also ctrl+G

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applied all

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00:27:044 - probably you can have at least one more note here, there's two notes from hyper difficulty for a bass synth.
and reference 01:13:590 - but it's up to you
so yeah feedback http://puu.sh/J9dIn/92279ab8ba.png

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added

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00:28:499 (28499|2,28590|4,28680|2,28771|0,28862|2,28953|4,29044|3,29135|1) - This is a very complex stream that requires a lot of finger independency, however I really liked your idea of encouraging the use of this type of stuff, so you might wanna give it a little more space by moving 00:28:680 (28680|5) - one column to the right (col 7) so that

  1. it gives more space visually for the complex stream, bringing out the main emphasis
  2. makes it easier for player to concentrate on the stream instead of the bass-melody
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check for repeated sections from 00:39:408 to 00:48:862, my mods from 00:27:771 to 00:37:953 should cover most of those as well. u can always ask for recheck as well owob
That includes: #3084254
#3084275
#3084265
#3084280
#3084283
#3084285

01:14:317 ~ 01:35:408 Too, always ask me if you're unsure of something

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the [135] pattern imitation for old 5k dp beatmania arcade or i can say simulating piano layout
i'll keep the style for now i like the way it play:>

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but did move the col[7] you said above

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doney

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00:30:680 ~ 00:31:771 Some thoughts here
This is a part with very intense chords, so how about making the stream at 00:30:317 less complex to show the differences? My idea is somewhere like this https://irone-o.s-ul.eu/gGtzSkfS, where you wanna use the Easy part to bridge the gap between two intense sections
Same thing could apply to 00:31:771 / 00:41:953 / 00:43:408

I feel like I'm not using enough general mods for this type of section-wide mods but uh whatever

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it's a very good fix suggestion ngl
applied your idea to the following section too!

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can check again

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looks fine

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00:31:226 (31226|4,31317|4) - Just to confirm, I don't hear any bass-melody that warrants this jack, is this a mistake because you didn't use a jack at 00:32:680 (32680|9,32771|5) -

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wdym they both jacked and have a melofy support

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*melody

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I was high maybe

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00:34:953 (34953|9,35226|9,35590|9,35953|9,36317|9) - Ouchie that's a bit straining on the pinky. There's also a little too spacious on the right hand side so u might wanna move 00:35:226 (35226|9,35590|9) - to col 8 for better balance and reduces unnecessary anchors

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can do

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00:36:408 (36408|3,36499|2) - How about moving these notes one column to the right so that it has

  1. better balance (col 5 was rarely used in this segment)
  2. make a symmetrical pattern with 00:36:590 (36590|6,36680|5) -
  3. form a nice looking progressive pattern with 00:36:680 (36680|0,36862|4,37044|1,37226|3,37226|4) -
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can do

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00:37:226 (37226|4,37226|3,37226|9) - why is this triple but not double?

00:37:408 / 00:37:590 where did the bass melody go?

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buig oopsie

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remove one at 00:37:226 -
adding 00:37:408 / 00:37:590

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also follow the same idea on 01:23:771 -

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Considering that 00:38:226 (38226|3,38226|6,38499|4,38499|5,38680|6,38680|3) - This pattern is symmetrical to the middle column, then how about moving 00:37:862 (37862|3) - to col 2 to match with this symmetricity?

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i don't see why not
changed

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Small nitpick
00:39:317 (39317|6) - Could move this to col 8 to avoid the trill + fill the empty column + make it more comfortable + ratio

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can do

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00:47:590 (47590|3,47680|1,47771|0,47862|1,47953|3,48044|2,48135|4) - Patterns like these where you have a pinky-ring mini-trill followed by a change in direction is quite challenging, I'm consistently missing here.

Perhaps it can be eased up with something like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/17890101/507e

Similar here: 01:22:680 - 01:34:226 -

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oh fair enough

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more testplay would be appreciate though, since I'm not the only one with this concern mapper can choose to reconsider and rearrange a little bit

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appplied the suggestion above on 00:47:953 and - 01:34:226
for 01:22:680 it's not particularly hard in it's current layout so keep it for now

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00:59:953 (59953|4,59953|1,60044|4,60044|1,60317|3,60317|7,60408|7,60408|3,60680|6,60680|1,60771|1,60771|6,61044|5,61044|1,61135|5,61135|1) - You mentioned how this part is a intended break in #3063839, but this part in particular is really heaavy with its double minijack, they're even spread out on both hands and sometimes one hand - which make this even more inconsistent.

A solution is to reduce them back to one minijack, just like how you always do, besides I don't think both bass- and main-melody has this kind of sound to support double minijack, so sth like this would work https://irone-o.s-ul.eu/p63sX6NJ

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i still wanna keep the double stack but i'll change to something easier(more mashable)

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the focus is still high pitch only and it work as a break mostly even the double stack it's still relatively low density so it works for me

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ok

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01:06:317 consistency check, should it be triple or double? Compare this 01:06:680

01:07:044 I think this chord doesn't have an extra layer of sound like 00:19:044, maybe u wanna make it triple?

01:08:499 Why is this triple now, no extra piano chord sound here

01:09:590 / 01:09:953 / 01:11:408 / 01:12:135 why triple? same doubts as above, they're just main+bass melody

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01:06:317 to double
01:07:044 triple
01:08:499 01:09:590 / 01:09:953 / 01:11:408 / 01:12:135 all double now

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01:11:408 ~ 01:12:862
This entire section has a clear cuts in the melodies but the whole part feels too streamy, I think you can do a little more to highlight that by NOT omitting the bass-melodies at 01:11:590 / 01:12:317
The current expression feels too scattered and doesn't have clear focus, maybe you wanna rework this section a bit.

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simply follow the break i did on hyper diff

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01:29:408 (89408|8,89499|8,89590|9) - ring jack followed by pinky note is another consistent combo breaker. Perhaps you can make it less technical by moving the note at column 10 to column 6?

01:31:044 - same

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the far end column represent the octave difference with the previous mini jack so keep

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I think you can remove 01:30:135 (90135|1) - and 01:31:590 (91590|4) - to focus on the rapid rolls better. The fast singles already substitute for the intensity and I think using only single streams would shift to emphasis to the rolls better. The piano rolls also overshadowed the bass-piano quite a bit so removing these doubles would represent this thing better.

And it also plays better

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yes i guess it's too much for a double inside 1/6 stream
will change it to single stream

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01:34:135 (94135|3,94226|1,94317|0,94408|1,94499|3,94590|2) - This looks kinda yikes and requite a bit too much finger independency compared to other patterns in the vicinity, so what about moving 01:34:135 (94135|3) - to col 3 to make this thing look more intuitive and easier to hit?

You can use your own pattern as well

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it plays fine for me
[124] is def better than [123]

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It's just that the ring+pinky trill is kinda sussy but if it plays fine then it should be ok

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01:53:408 (113408|4,113408|3) - more consistency check, should it be double or single? compare to 01:56:317 (116317|7) -

01:53:226 (113226|0) - vs. 01:56:135

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01:53:408 01:56:135 - double now

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01:53:862 (113862|8,113953|6,113953|9) - I assume you choose to not jack this because of the complexity of this section? Then what about this 01:56:680 (116680|0,116771|2,116862|2) - ? just asking to make sure here.

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thankyou!!! yes more jacks now

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01:54:680 (114680|5) - how about moving this to col 7 to show difference with 01:54:317 (114317|5) - this bass-melody?

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can do

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01:59:044 (119044|5) - maybe move this to col 7 so that the repeating rolls on the right hand is smoother and it would become more spacious and symmetrical.

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yeah it's better now

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02:01:499 You omitted a melody (a minijack) here, is that intentional?

02:02:953 as well

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that's all for insane diff, GJ and GL

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yeah minijack here will be too stressful consider it's chordstream section

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02:02:862 (122862|3,123044|4) - Feels like you can ctrl+G these to make this 02:03:044 triple chord more brackety, just like the previous triples you never used a connected chord.

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ctril+g

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