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Hey, just wanna see what you guys think about some issues regarding slight timing issue, with some obvious late drum sounds being 02:13:113 (133113|0,133113|1,133280|2,133280|3) -, may want to look into this for the rest of the song.

Also just wanted to see what these were about, im a noob owo)b

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02:13:113 (133113|0,133113|1,133280|2,133280|3) -

Simplify snaps within a dense drum rolls are usually fine.
As players might not feel snaps in a roll which is slightly off, but if mapper use complex snapping then the play experience might be weird.

Many other ranked maps also used such design. (I can easily tell a lot, including some of my own maps.)
One example we can refer is, a map named 'Palette Dance'. (you can search that song title within the mania BNG discord server, there were a past discussion about the simplify cuz that map.

Some reports by DH tool are for the storyboard hitsound samples.
There are some TOM sample on 1/16 , though there are no notes there. storyboard hitsound sample are optional, depends on the mapper.
ex: 02:17:655 tom2.wav@70%

You can check storyboard samples via press 'shift' in editor. https://imgur.com/a/tvjKrga

The other are for meter resit ex: 03:17:617 etc.

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To conclude, I feel all those things which you are mentioned are fine. Yea just me, let the mapper to jedge the things later.

Uhh, I might not able to make further response here, cuz I would be busy in next few day.
I'll let the other BN and the mapper to handle the rest things.

But feel free to poke me via discord if any my opinion is needed. w thanku

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okay,,, so .. Sorry if my answer or use of my english is very bad

first ,,, 02:13:113 (133113|0,133113|1,133280|2,133280|3) - maybe this is a little late 1/16, if u want I can fix it down below,, does this need to be added with another red timing too?

second ,,, there are a lot of storyboards that don't match the tempo of the song (slightly shifted) because in the past the main timing offset changed... Honestly, i dont know if this really affects the gameplay or not,

03:17:617 - unused timing ? it's different there ,, i use bpm 90.4 ,, and follow the piano beats to make it easier

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I'd probably say go for simplification, if there wasn't multiple sections that have a slightly off timing, probably due to bpm drift, or drunk drummer/pianist lmao.
02:15:280 (135280|2,135613|2,135947|2,136280|1,136613|1,136947|1) - and 02:40:280 - etc

May want to go thru this song again and do abit more fine tuning with perhaps some additions to the timing points to really nail down all the slight offset consistencies, since the HS shows the slight offset difference between the sound.

This being the same exact issue with why 1994667#3941463
was DQ

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also wanted to throw this in here,
pointed out by Harbyter, you can shave off alot of MB of space by cutting the length of alot of these .wav hitsounds

Thats a few, i think you have about 25+ HS to look at.

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Decide to talk via discord.

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We'll update this before renom #3941340/10539395 others should all fixed. feel free to recheck

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okay all fixed

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some little tips on consistency

00:26:947 - suggest to add another note on col3 because the double feels too poor for the cymbal , you used harden pattern in all around the song like this or similar
so it won't hurt adding that extra note

00:30:280 - add another note at col1 to keep the consistency of 3 notes in the C chords like in the rest of the song, it's really not that hard to hit those, if you did it you can also move 00:29:947 (29947|0) - to col 3 for more hand balance

00:30:947 - 00:36:280 - 00:41:613 - suggest to make triple those too , adding a simple note or LN because you did it on the other section similar to those like 01:29:613 - 01:40:280 - 02:22:947 - 02:28:280 - etc etc

00:35:613 - same here, add another note at 4 for consistency??

00:40:947 - similar to the first suggestion of consistency from the C chords, add a note in col 4 and move 00:40:613 (40613|3) - to col 2 for balance?

01:07:613 - same here, add another note, this part is not that dense to avoid a triple

01:16:947 - ^

01:23:280 (83280|1) - i think you should add another note here with the hitsound 0.hihat.wav it is similar to the other sounds where they are begin used like 01:09:280 (69280|2) - 01:35:947 (95947|3) - etc etc

01:53:947 (113947|3) - pretty sure there is a kick here, add the hitsound W?

02:02:280 - add note?Same reason of the other triple

02:06:280 - ^

02:38:947 - suggest to add another note in col 3 for the same reason as the previous suggestion for this type of sound , if you did it then suggest to remove a note from here 02:38:613 (158613|1) - to make it more balanced

02:45:113 (165113|2,165280|1,165447|2) - did you forget the tom3 hitsounds?? Same rolls like 02:50:447 - and 02:55:780 -

03:26:613 (206613|1,206947|0,207280|1) - just nitpick but i would invert the position of those LNs to differentiate it from the previous piano LN

03:50:279 (230279|2) - i think this fits better the 0.hihat.wav instead of the finisher

03:52:279 - add extra note at col 2?

04:02:945 - 04:07:612 - 04:11:612 - 04:13:612 - 04:20:945 - ^

04:26:279 - can add another note here too but the next pattern is pretty dense, up to you

04:31:612 - 04:36:945 - add extra note for consistency

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00:26:947 - 01:23:280 - 01:53:947 - 02:45:113 - 03:26:613 - 03:50:279 - 03:52:279 - 04:02:945 - added note here and hs suggest

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before I made it,,, I knew it was a place for triples, but because there is a slider, it is not mandatory to give triples, you can give doubles for example (I was once suggested by a friend for this), and if I use triples there it looks a lot stacked

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its good if you wanna keep like this , mine are just tips xD

btw 01:20:243 (80243|2,80317|1) - those 2 notes are unsnapped , this is on purpose or?

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in the case of this section 01:28:947 - 01:46:947 - there is additional sound (idk what instrument it is qwq)

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Protastic suggest ,,, Previously there were 3 people who suggested it

u can check in the timeline

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alright , just wanted to confirm if it was intentional or not

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oh okay, it's finished... only part of what I received from ur tips... thank u very much =w=

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feel my rhythm

  1. 03:14:956 - this timing feels kinda delayed

why i feels loud is that 03:14:956's melody was shown on 03:14:950 - so feels no need in this 03:14:956 red line

also 03:15:289 (195289|2,195622|2,195956|2,196289|2,196622|2,196956|2,197289|2,197539|0) - couldnt feels awkward on -6ms offset

  1. 03:17:622 to 03:20:248 - especially 03:19:289 (199289|1,199622|1,199956|1) -
    these feels kinda delayed in this timing

when i add 03:17:622 - 90.4bpm and re-snap these, feels better in my rhythm

  1. 03:28:613 (208613|1,208947|1) - this piano sound seems delayed but performer seems to have added an unintended delay to the part, so feels you need to think a little more.

ambiguous to modify, and there is a possibility that only snap and rhythm will become rather difficult

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03:14:956 - oke deleted

03:17:622 - added 90,4bpm

03:28:280 - i try add bpm 85 in here and 03:28:985 - bpm 102, i feel its much better

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