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Sixpence None the Richer - Kiss Me

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Lizbeth
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonndeg 2 August 2009 at 13:05:55

Artist: Sixpence None the Richer
Title: Kiss Me
BPM: 100,05
Filesize: 3172kb
Play Time: 02:32
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,1 stars, 99 notes)
  2. Hard (4,56 stars, 251 notes)
  3. Insane (4,89 stars, 316 notes)
  4. Normal (2,62 stars, 154 notes)
Download: Sixpence None the Richer - Kiss Me
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi...
thanks for helping everyone :)
Last edited by Lizbeth , edited 59 times in total.
FurukawaPan
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Umm.

1. The artist for this song is Sixpence None the Richer

2. It's spelled "The Cranberries", with an N. However, that's a moot point unless you decide to map a song by the Cranberries.

Now that that's out of the way.

Your offset sounds a bit too early to me, I had better results with 1176, but 1158 definitely sounds too early to me.
The mapping seems to be well done, spacing visually looks okay, but I haven't tried snapping everything in the editor. It looks quite well done. This map is quality, and I like it. :D
Lizbeth
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hi
thanks a lot for the correction...
the offset feels a lot better now
:) thnx
see ya around
Real1
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When I saw the background I let out an "awwwww". I really enjoyed this beatmap, even though something felt wrong with the timing. Can't put my finger on it since I suck at timing. I can sense when it's wrong but I can't sense WHAT is wrong. :P

Regardless, i got almost only 300's, except when those jumps in Hard suddenly surprised me. :(
Lizbeth
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FurukawaPan
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Non electronic music (like this song) are played by real people, and so throughout the song, each beat is going to be (technically) imprecise, but still close to perfect (since they are professional artists). As such, assigning a single BPM to the song can sometimes lead to drift during portions of the song. If the drift is insignificant, you can get away with finding the 'closest' BPM and setting a best average offset. If the drift is more significant you will have to do separate timing sections. The offset I provided in the last post was as close as I could get it to sound 'right' to my ears, but you may want to play with things a little more if you want it perfect.
Lizbeth
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i know what u mean...
since im not good at timing. i ll let that one u give me
it sound good to me, i ve tried other but this is the best of all.
so thnks :)
gamerrox
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Glad someone mapped this :)
I'm not an avid modder, I did the best I could

Easy
02:20:278: The slider is slightly tilted up, just tilt it a single notch down (Unless that's how you planned it)


Everything else seems fine to me, aside from the horribly slight timing problem with some parts, I don't think it's that noticeable and still do-able. Aside from that, great work.
Lizbeth
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bump :D
foulcoon
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For some reason I really like this song~

Offset: 1,180

[Hard]
I'm cool with the jumps, some mods may not be... so we'll see.
02:26:87 (1) - fancy slider art but make the endpoints more visible please

Not much more time, but I had to post... real nice stuff going on ;)
Lizbeth
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mattyu007
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Here since the beginning
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Hehe, here's some modding I can do on a mac :P

Move the audio preview point to 00:38
Lizbeth
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mattyu007 wrote:

Hehe, here's some modding I can do on a mac :P

Move the audio preview point to 00:38

Done
thanks :)
Lizbeth
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bump :P
mm201
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Lizbeth
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MetalMario201 wrote:

Offset: BPM
1,200: 100.070
121,086: 100.070

BPM stays the same, but it looks like the audio editors made an imperfect cut around the second break.

Lol @ the lip slider :D

im not getting it.. my current offset is 1,180. u suggest 1,200 but that s 20 ms of diference, i test it, but sound bad.. and the cut u said at second break is not at 121,086... maybe im not getting it.. if u plz explain me better... my english isnt very good sorry... :)
anyway thnx for checking
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Aeon
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heres my mod for you

[easy]:

01:37:729(1) i dont thing that a clap sound suits the rhythm here try a whistle

[normal]:
0:22:764(3) remove whistle and add finish
0:25:313(7)^
0:27:561(3)^
0:29:959(7)^
0:29.360(6): try to re-arrange notes so that this note appears on the end of the next slider
0:34:756(6) add finish
0:49:746(1,2,3,4) remove whistle(optional)
0:54:576(1,2) remove whistle and add finish
0:57:240(4) remove whistle and add finish
0:57:540(5) move 1/2 beat also remove whistle
0:58:140(6) remove whistle and add finish
0:58:739(8) remove whistle and add finish
0:59:339(1,2) add whistles here
1:22:722(4) add finish and remove whistle
1:31:716(4) add finish
1:33:515(1) add finish
1:34:414(2) move closer to 1
1:34:714(3) move close to 2
1:35:913(1 to 7) wrongly spaced, also remove whistle on 1 and 3 and add finishes
1:41:010(2 to 10) spacing seems wrong
1:47:905(2 to 6)^
2:01:066(1) add finish in the end
2:05:862(5) ^
2:06:462(1)^
2:13:057(7)add finish
2:17:854(7) remove whistle add finish
2:20:276(6)^

sorry i didnt mod the rest but at this point im too sleepy to go on, plus i think i gave you enough to work on for now :) ill mod the rest later... by the way pretty good map althoguht it has some spacing problems... ill go over details later

keep it up!
Lizbeth
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thanks a lot for ur time Aeon
i fixed most of the things u listed, ( not all ) since i wanst agree in everything
anyway.. is looking better now
thanks for checking :)
Jarby
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You effectively mapped the feel of the song very well by only vaguely following lyrics, putting 1/4 circles in the right places, overall hitsounds and using jumps appropriately.

This is very good work.

NAZI EDIT:

Hard and Insane:
02:21:45 (2) - Remove whistle here, or add it to the 4.
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Aeon
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JarJarJacob wrote:

You effectively mapped the feel of the song very well by only vaguely following lyrics, putting 1/4 circles in the right places, overall hitsounds and using jumps appropriately.

This is very good work.

/agree, ill now mod the other dificulties just wait :)
Aeon
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[hard]

0:22:728(4) remove whistle add finish
0:25:728(4) ^
0:28:140(1) wrong distance snap ( but.... i think you can get away with it since i tested and it doesnt seem impossible to get to)
0:30:542(1) ^
0:32:957(1) ^
0:35:356(1) ^
0:46:148(4) add whistle
0:52:743(4 and 8) add finish
0:56:940(1 to 7) i think its pretty good as it is but here is a sugestion) finish on 2 and 4 and whistle on 6
0:59:334 (1,2) add whistle( also wrong distance space on 1,2,3 and 4 but i think you can get away with this as well)
01:22:123(1) same with distance space
01:23::332(1) ^
01:25:720(1) ^
01:30:817(2 and 4) add whistles
01:33:215(2 and 4) ^
01:35:913(1 to 7) wrong distance snap makes it almost impossible to get to the notes in time, im not saying to snap them as it would become too easy but get them a little closer to each other
01:49:104(1,2,3) same as 01:22
02:02:265(3) add whistle
02:03:486(1 to 5) same as in 01:35
02:16:368(2 and 4) add whistles
02:32:244(3) remove whistle add finish
[Insane]
0:46:448(4,5,6)4 and 5 whistle and finish in 6
02:32:224(3) remove whistle add finish
didnt point out the distance errors here as this is insane music :)

My conclusison

VERY VERY fun to play beatmap i hope this gets ranked soon, alot of inconsistant spacing but i think you can get away with most of it.
I dont see much more room for improvement here other than adding a skin(but thats up to you).. and thats it
hope to see more :)
Magmabear
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Man, I wish that this was ranked. This is such a fun map to play!

Hey, I was wondering. Do you want a video to go along with this beatmap? It's a bunch of Anime kissing pictures just like the BG of this one and I was wondering if you wanted it just for the heck of it.
I dunno. I'm a sucker for videos :P
Hara
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Very nice map, it's very fun to play.

If I mention grid, it is with level 3 grid level.

[Insane]
01:13:729 (1,2) - I felt that you had VERY good angles in this map but this angle was kinda weird, maybe something like this picture?

[Hard] - VERY good symmetry <3
02:25:049 - This seems to have accidentally been off-snapped from the centre grid line, snap it very slightly to the left to the centre line.

[Normal] Also very nice.
01:47:905 (2,3,4,5,6) - This looks a little odd, maybe if you had (4) on the central vertical line ^v and then put (2) and (6) well spaced on the horizontal line <-> and then move (3) and (5) to appropriate distance between (2) and (4) as well as (4) and (6) this could be a little more symmetrical shaped.
02:03:464 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe move these 4 grid steps to the right (with Level 3 grid on) to make it more centred in the map, with (3) right in the exact middle of the map.
02:31:644 (2,3) - On the other difficulties you have these just on top of the end point of the slider but here slightly above, is this intentional?

[Easy]
00:58:140 (4) - If you move this around 3-4 grids up it looks more like the sliders just before it.
Lizbeth
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Magmabear
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Isn't this song by the Cranberries? not by Sixpence None the Richer?
I think this was mentioned a little bit up the topic.
Aeon
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hello again!

after playing your maps many times (normal and hard) and compraring to other maps and their dificulties i find that normal and hard are just too easy i pass them with no problems so my suggestions are the following

[Normal]

-increase overall dificulty by 1

[hard]

-decrease circle size by 1 and overall dificulty by 1

this way i believe it will make them more into the context of "normal" and "hard"
Hara
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Magmabear wrote:

Isn't this song by the Cranberries? not by Sixpence None the Richer?
I think this was mentioned a little bit up the topic.
No, it's by Sixpence None the Richer.
Lizbeth
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Thanks for checking
Hara's corrections now fixed..

Hara wrote:

[Hard] - VERY good symmetry <3
02:25:049 - This seems to have accidentally been off-snapped from the centre grid line, snap it very slightly to the left to the centre line.
this is 'cause i had to make the slider end visible

Aeon wrote:

hello again!

after playing your maps many times (normal and hard) and compraring to other maps and their dificulties i find that normal and hard are just too easy i pass them with no problems so my suggestions are the following

[Normal]

-increase overall dificulty by 1

[hard]

-decrease circle size by 1 and overall dificulty by 1

this way i believe it will make them more into the context of "normal" and "hard"
decreased circle size in normal and hard... i ll keep the current overall difficulty
thnx :)

:)
Magmabear
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Hara wrote:

Magmabear wrote:

Isn't this song by the Cranberries? not by Sixpence None the Richer?
I think this was mentioned a little bit up the topic.
No, it's by Sixpence None the Richer.
Dear God this is getting confusing. Look at this site

http://www.metrolyrics.com/kiss-me-lyri ... rries.html

and then look at this one

http://www.lyrics007.com/Sixpence%20Non ... yrics.html

WTF? :shock:

Who the heck made this song???
Hara
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Learn to check official sources and then come back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_Me isn't official but it's the truth.
Magmabear
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Hara wrote:

Learn to check official sources and then come back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_Me isn't official but it's the truth.
WHOA! Wait wait wait wait...

... I think this is how it is... maybe...

This version is a cover from the Cranberries... but the original is from Sixpence...

Here, look

Original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd7J6WZ_ ... re=related

Cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cUQ8ClSuLU
BTW this would be cool to have in the background of this beatmap :P

I think that that's how the confusion started, and if you listen, the first song sounds older, since it was recorded in 1999.

I think that's how it is.
So, Kiss me was originally made by Sixpence None the Richer, but this version is by the Cranberries, and I do remember actually hearing this song on the radio one time and the DJ said Cranberries (Or Cranberrys, however you spell it)

Am I wrong?
Magmabear
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Oh yeah, and Avril also made a cover too.
Magmabear
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Actually wait...
GAAAAH!

Ah forget it. Too many things are confusing as is.

Name it by whomever you want :P

Geez...
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Magmabear
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Yeah, I know!
That's what's getting me so freaking confused!
So many people on Youtube list it under Cranberries and then there's the freaking official video. And then even the radio announcer gets it jumbled up.
How the heck did this get so messed up?
What does the Cranberries version sound like?
Why am I here?
What is my purpose in life???
The heck???
:(

So, yeah, I guess you should just go with Sixpence.

...by the way, that Anime slideshow would be cool, I could edit it a little more since I'm better at that then at osu :P
That would be so cute! :)

Sorry for the confusion, everybody. You can go ahead and shun me from society now. :D
FurukawaPan
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Do any of you have ANY CLUE what Dolores O'Riordan sounds like?? Honestly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEySrDerj0

Now go back to that "cover" of yours and listen again. This song was *never* covered by the Cranberries. Just silly people on the internet not bothering to check their sources before incorrectly citing which group performed the song. :o

In conclusion, the artist for this beatmap is none other than "Sixpence None the Richer".

Also, this post is an opportunity for me to star your map Lizbeth. Good stuff. ;)
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Magmabear
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james039 wrote:

Do any of you have ANY CLUE what Dolores O'Riordan sounds like?? Honestly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEySrDerj0

Now go back to that "cover" of yours and listen again. This song was *never* covered by the Cranberries. Just silly people on the internet not bothering to check their sources before incorrectly citing which group performed the song. :o

In conclusion, the artist for this beatmap is none other than "Sixpence None the Richer".

Also, this post is an opportunity for me to star your map Lizbeth. Good stuff. ;)

Which is why I'm glad this whole mess has been sorted out. Thanks :D
Real1
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I want to see this map ranked.

Star.
Lizbeth
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thanks for taking ur time checkin this map :)
critics r welcome.
btw thanks for the stars ;)
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Just a friendly reminder that what I say is mostly *suggestion* on how to possibly improve your map and not a *command* that you change your map!

[Easy]
00:47:34 (2) - spacing?
01:12:53 (2) - line this up with 1
01:18:52 (3) - line this up with 1 and 2
01:20:92 (1) - not quite stacked under fading 3
01:34:71 (2) - spacing?
01:43:70 (6) - line this up with 5
02:15:45 (1) - spacing?
02:20:25 (1) - partly hidden by previous slider
map generally could use a bit more hitsound and a bit less of the note-every-beat stuff; try mixing up your rhythm a bit more


[Normal]
00:56:94 (3) - line this up with the end of 2
01:17:32 (3) - line this up under the end of 2
01:38:31 (8,1) - slider overlap is messy
Augh, its time for me to go x_x I will finish this when I get home tonight. Have a shiny star in the meantime


[Hard]
00:50:64 (5) - line this up vertically with 4
00:51:24 (7) - alternately make the line between 4 and 5 parallel to the line between 6 and 7
00:53:04 (5,6) - not quite stacked right
01:33:51 (3) - ^
01:35:01 (6,7) - ^
01:41:75 (6) - line this up horizontally with 7
01:44:30 (4) - ^ with 3 and is there a reason the slider isnt quite straight?
02:18:45 (1) - stack under fading 5
02:19:65 (4) - stack under fading 1
02:31:64 (2,3) - stack


[Insane]
00:53:94 (8) - spacing?
02:11:85 (4) - ^
02:17:25 (5,1) - stack
02:18:45 (1,4) - ^
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Lizbeth
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thanks for modding saturos-fangirl.
i fixed everything...:)
cya!
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mm201
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Easy:
  1. 02:23:25 (1) - A bit squished. Please move down by one grid.
  2. 02:25:04 (4) - ^ only move up one grid instead.
Normal:
  1. 00:37:15 (2,3,4) - Spacing. All of your other 1/2s are just "kissing" (no pun intended :P). Please move (2) down by a grid, and (4) up by one.
  2. 01:35:91 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing. Move each one grid closer.
  3. 02:10:65 (1) - Move up by 1 grid.
Insane:
  1. 01:14:32 (3,4,5) - Spacing. Your other 1/4s don't really overlap, so move these further apart.
  2. 01:19:12 (3,4,5) - ^
  3. 01:45:20 (2) - Not really liking the placement of (2) underneath the pink (7). This map is otherwise free of overlap. Consider moving the pink combo left to preserve symmetry here.
Good job with the symmetry. I hope Echo doesn't get you! D=
Lizbeth
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thanks for checking MetalMario201 ;)
everything s fixed.
Lissette
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:D this is your cutest beatmap n///n, to bad you don't want ME to make a video for it >.>
i wanna see this ranked °¬°
star ^^
YellowerYoshi
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(No kudosu please)

I really like this. It's timed nicely and the lip shapes you make at the end are a nice touch. Also just a fabulous song. You get a star because this is some good work.
Lizbeth
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oh thanks for posting YellowYoshi1
cool u like it :D
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