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Lacuna Coil - Trip The Darkness

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Laeth1988
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 22 February 2012 at 00:13:14

Artist: Lacuna Coil
Title: Trip The Darkness
Tags: Cristina Sabbia Symphonic Metal
BPM: 122.68
Filesize: 23971kb
Play Time: 02:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Normal (3.11 stars, 181 notes)
  2. Starry's Easy (1.73 stars, 135 notes)
Download: Lacuna Coil - Trip The Darkness
Download: Lacuna Coil - Trip The Darkness (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My dates are GMT +0 By the way :D First beatmap, will do my best to learn beatmapping to get this approved :D

Map will be intended to have an Easy, Normal, Insane at least, maybe a hard if I get time.


27 Jan 2012 - Mess happened before this date, and timing conflicts :D
28 Jan 2012 - 00:47:00 in Normal done so far
29 Jan 2012 - Starry's Guest easy added, Kiai time marked up, breaks noted, Testing slider speeds
30 Jan 2012 - Starry's guest map updated. 02:42:495 in Normal done so far, moved quite a bit around to make it flow better (and hopefully more fun), made hit buttons match for Easy/Normal, only outro to go :D
01 Feb 2012 - Error with SB after first spinner fixed, Starry's guest map updated, Background changed, Video added (22 mb), Starting skinning the song (almost finished - needs tidying up though)
02 Feb 2012 - Reduced video file size down to 17 MB, Skin done (may need tidying up), finished normal
12 Feb 2012 - Starry's Easy updated
22 Feb 2012 - Starry's Easy updated, will clean my map up in the next few days


Thank You
Kei for the mod, tips and an insane guest map :)
Starry for tips and easy guest map :)
BrokenArrow, ikari_kyon and awp for timingsmove failed
BrokenArrow
Bpm : 122,67
Offset : 7925
Topic Starter
Laeth1988

BrokenArrow wrote:

Bpm : 122,67
Offset : 7925

Thaaank youuu <3 :D -super happy- :3 i freaking love this song, i will spend the rest of my life on this beatmap to get it approved XD lol
Kei
Hello there. I'm taking a look at your beatmap. I really like the song. It sounds really nice. Can I make you a guest difficulty? I know how to make all difficulties :D Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane.. If you want a guest by me, tell me which difficulty you want me to map. I personally prefer to map a Insane or a Hard but it's up to you to decide. Oh if you want to know how I map, check my newest pending map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43415. You can see my mapping style there.
About the mod, I'm going to start it soon. If you're interested, I can help you in mapping. I will be happy and glad to help you ^^ I can add you to my friends list and talk ingame to help you about mapping in general and to help you to improve this map more in depth after I finish my mod.
This song is awesome and has to be ranked.
Topic Starter
Laeth1988

Kei wrote:

Hello there. I'm taking a look at your beatmap. I really like the song. It sounds really nice. Can I make you a guest difficulty? I know how to make all difficulties :D Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane.. If you want a guest by me, tell me which difficulty you want me to map. I personally prefer to map a Insane or a Hard but it's up to you to decide. Oh if you want to know how I map, check my newest pending map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43415. You can see my mapping style there.
About the mod, I'm going to start it soon. If you're interested, I can help you in mapping. I will be happy and glad to help you ^^ I can add you to my friends list and talk ingame to help you about mapping in general and to help you to improve this map more in depth after I finish my mod.
This song is awesome and has to be ranked.
Ah, this is awesome, I would be happy for you to make insane ^_^ If you wish to help me map that would be appretiated too, I would love to see this map ranked and will not stop trying til it is done haha :P
Kei
I'm a bit late, sorry. Well, lets begin:

  • General
  1. This map mp3 bitrate isn't allowed (320kbps). You have to encode this mp3 to 192~128kbps and do a fullsubmission.
  2. Timing doesn't sound good to me. I think you should search for someone to recheck timing.
  3. Remove from Tags "Lacuna Coil Trip The Darkness". Title and Artist words count as tags.
  4. I think that you should remove from the title "(Official)". It doesn't seem necessary. It is necessary to add (for example) "Techno Remix" when it's a remixed version of the original song but this song isn't a remix, it's the original version.
  5. A background image would be nice. I know that this map isn't finished but I think you should add a backgound anyways.
  • [Easy]

    This is definitely not an Easy. I highly recommend you to rename this difficulty to "Normal".
    I also highly recommend you to use Grid Level 3. It's way better and helpful to make better slider shapes and patterns.
    Oh, talking about patterns.. try to avoid making linear patterns. They're boring to play. Be creative and make some more curved sliders too :D.
    The samples volume it's reaaaaaaaally high (100% o.o). I think you should lower it to 50%.
    You should use more hitsounds (claps, whistles), not only hitfinish.
    And also, you should adjust your difficulty settings at Song Setup. I suggest you to use this settings:[list:db999]

  1. HP Drain Rate: 2
  2. Overall Difficulty: 3
  3. Circle Size: 4
  4. Approach Rate: 6
Here are a lot of spacing problems. You have to map with "Distance Snap" activated. It places notes in the playfield according to their timeline ubication. Please check all spacings with Distance Snap activated and fix them. I'm not going to point out spacing problems in this mod. Find them by yourself :P. I'll only give you an example: 00:08:414 (2) :arrow: This note isn't placed correctly.
SPOILER


But here, I placed it correctly :)
00:08:169 (2) - This note sounds off. Move this note to the next white tick. I also suggest you to remove hitfinish here and consider mapping the empty part between this note and the next one (1). It's boring to wait all those seconds to click 2 notes again aaaaaand wait once again the same ammount of seconds to click 2 more notes.00:10:126 (2) - ^ Same as above00:12:082 (2) - ^00:14:038 (2) - ^00:15:995 (2) - ^00:17:951 (2) - ^00:19:908 (2) - ^00:21:864 (2) - ^00:25:044 (3) - This slider sounds off too. Move it to 00:24:554 and make it 2 ticks larger (end at 00:25:533). I also don't uderstand that white point you added at x176 y240:
SPOILER


It's useless, it doesn't change the slider shape. You should delete it.
00:27:734 (7) - This note sounds off too. Move it to 00:27:978 so it fits with the vocals. Oh I also suggest you to remove hitfinish. It doesn't fit here in my opinion.00:28:957 (1,2) - Try this. I think that it sounds way better and It's easy for beginners (Ignore the slider shape and desing. I did it randomly)-
00:32:625 - Why is this Break here all of a sudden? Please map this Break. You can try this to replace that break if you like how it sounds:
SPOILER
  1. Replace 00:32:380 (3) with a slider, with endpoint at 00:33:359.
  2. Add a note at 00:33:848.
  3. Add a slider at 00:34:337 with repeat at 00:34:826 (ends at 00:35:315 obviously).
  4. Add a note at 00:35:804.
  5. Add a slider at 00:36:293 and make it end at the white tick (00:36:782).
  6. Add a note at 00:37:272.
  7. And to end this boring procedure add a slider at 00:37:761 and make it end at 00:38:494.
00:40:206 (1) - Remove this new combo and hitfinish at end. The new combo is not necessary and the hitfinish doesn't fit in my opinion. Also.. don't place sliders like this. The slider (2) end it's hidden by slider (1) end. Try to avoid this spacings and overlaps. They're confusing for beginners.00:40:206 (1) - Same as above about hifinish.00:41:184~00:43:630 - Why is this part empty? You should map this.00:44:119 (1) - This slider end sounds off. Make it end at the white tick (00:44:608) and remove hitfinish at the end of the slider. It doesn't fit. :? 00:45:342 (2) - This sounds off too :? Try to move this slider to 00:45:097, make it 1 tick larger, add 1 repeat to it and delete 00:46:076 (3). I think it sounds better.00:46:565 (3) - I suggest you to delete this note. It doesn't seem necessary and I think that it sounds better if you delete it.00:47:054 (3) - New combo here. It fits with the vocals. Also, this is the chorus. I recommend you to add a green section here with Kiai Time and then add another green section at 01:04:662 to end the Kiai.00:49:255 (1,2,3) - This may be a bit difficult. I suggest you to delete (1) and (3). It sounds better and it's more easy for beginners.00:49:989 (6) - Add a repeat to this slider. It sounds way better in my opinion.00:56:347 (5) - Move this note somewhere else because it's being hidden by the previous slider (4).00:57:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't sound good and may be difficult. Try something like this instead (once again, ignore the slider shape:
Yes, you have to delete the first spinner. To replace that spinner I suggest you to try something like this:
SPOILER


Also, move the spinner to 01:01:727 like in the image and make it end at 01:04:662.
01:10:776 (2) - Move this slider to the next white tick, and after that, do this (the next notes sound off too):
01:15:423~ 01:17:868 - Another empty part. You should map this too.01:18:357 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why do you now follow the music when your previous notes were following the vocals? Also, move all the (2) notes 1 tick fordward.01:26:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Remove some hitfinishes. A lot of consecutive hitfinish doesn't sound good.01:28:384 (7) - Move this slider 1 tick back and make it 1 tick shorter (notes placed at red ticks may be confusing for beginners so you should avoid placing notes in this difficulties). Also, this slider shape it's unrankeable. It's unrankeable to place a slider end at his own body.01:31:074 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds off. Listen this part with playback rate at 25% and try to make a better rhythm here. I also suggest you to unstack this notes. It's boring to keep clicking at various notes stacked without moving the cursor or something.01:33:275 (7) - Just the same as I told you in 01:28:384. Also, add new combo.01:34:009 - Add a Kiai Time here (end at 01:49:661).01:37:677 (1) - Move this slider 1 tick back, delete 1 repeat of it, make it 2 ticks larger and remove new combo.01:39:879 (3) - New combo here. It fits with the vocals.01:41:835 (4) - ^01:43:058 (7) - Hmmm this note doesn't fit too. I think that it sounds better if you delete it.Woah that's all. You have a lot to fix :D
I'm sorry for the looong mod. I did it for the best of your map. If you have any questions or something you can contact me ingame or just send me a forum PM. Oh and, I've started mapping my Insane. It may took a bit of time to finish.. I'm a slow mapper, but I'll try to finish my guest as fast as I can.
Topic Starter
Laeth1988
Thanks :D will do my best to fiiix :D

*edit*
Will start fixing it 9pm GMT tonight :)
jossieP
hi :3 timing check requested by pm >v<

this timing is so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddddddd
god damn how BrokenArrow has given this xD
lets see this song is very more fast, just look

BPM: 184,000
Offset: 97
Time signature: 3/4 < about this is the downbeat that the metronome have, if you leave it on 4/4 (common) this would sound weird, you need to change it to 3/4, look at the screenshot and see what you have to change:

see? there is say 3/4 (waltz).
since is a different BPM you have to remap all your mapset :/ sorry, good luck >v<

OH I FORGOT IT
your mp3 file still on unrankable kbps, please set it on 128~192 kbps, if you dont know how to reduce it ask to someone, then when you have full submited your new mp3 file call me again <: as I see timing help is not so dependable now
Topic Starter
Laeth1988
It seems there are some vocals (sentences) that don't start on the first beat? is that right? I'm not sure how to do it xD remapping isn't much of a problem either since I will just slide it into the right place and delete the odd note xD
jossieP
<_< make your changes and Ill check it
Topic Starter
Laeth1988

ikari_kyon wrote:

<_< make your changes and Ill check it
It should be 192 kbps now :D I used an audio converter to change it from 320 and full submissioned :D
jossieP
NO KUDOS THIS POST

for new mp3 file:
BPM: 194,000
Offset: 109
Time signature 3/4
Topic Starter
Laeth1988

ikari_kyon wrote:

NO KUDOS THIS POST

for new mp3 file:
BPM: 194,000
Offset: 109
Time signature 3/4
ok and thanks :D <3
awp
I'm fairly happy with the following timing:

1. Offset: 115ms BPM: 122.675

Note that the drums ARE in 3/4 timing so keep your snap divisor to 1/3 or 1/6 if you're going down that route. In fact, a number of the vox are 1/3 as well.

Still, I'd avoid using a 184.0125 BPM 3/4 approach - something about that doesn't seem right
Topic Starter
Laeth1988
thanks a bunch :D
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