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Koji Kondo - Phantom Ganon

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Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 26. Dezember 2011 at 23:19:05

Artist: Koji Kondo
Title: Phantom Ganon
Source: The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker
BPM: 119.9
Filesize: 3952kb
Play Time: 02:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.82 stars, 112 notes)
  2. Hard (4.78 stars, 295 notes)
  3. Normal (4.08 stars, 214 notes)
Download: Koji Kondo - Phantom Ganon
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 2nd beatmap, an epic song :D
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MoonShade
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Joined February 2010
MoonShade
Timing:
1. Timing Point: BPM: 119,90 - Offset: ~4.188
2. Timing Point: BPM: 119,90 - Offset: ~93.762

Da du manchmal kein Distance Snap benutzt, rate ich dir, mal mein Tutorial zum Mappen anzusehen, da werden die wichtigsten Dinge kurz erklärt.

Ich werde dir deine Map gerne vollständig modden und dir evt. einen Stern geben, wenn du das Timing richtig einstellst und mit Distance Snap deine Map überarbeitest ;)
Vortex_old
107 posts
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Vortex_old
Hab nun alles überarbeitet.^^
Reiji-RJ
1,402 posts
Joined April 2010
Reiji-RJ
Hi

Change timing as MoonShade said.
Then Timing -> Resnap all notes

[Easy]

Circle size large
OD -2

00:16:142 (4) - spacing
00:51:422 (2) - change this reverse with one without reverse?
01:33:707 (3) - don't overlap it with (2)
01:42:214 (1) - delete this and make more one reverse in previous slider
01:58:978 (2) - don't make such sliders in easy, please :C
02:04:733 (1,2,3,4) - remove this and make slider like at 01:37:710
02:08:611 (2,3) - ^
02:19:745 (1,2,3,4) - may be make gradual fade in volume?

[Normal]

Uhh, maybe OD and HP -1?

00:46:757 (3) - change the shape of slider, it may confuse players
02:06:449 (2) - reduce to 02:06:323
02:08:826 (1) - delete new combo
02:19:745 (1,2,3,4) - may be make gradual fade in volume?

You need to make hard diff
Good luck ;)
Vortex_old
107 posts
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Vortex_old
I think all problems should be fixed :D
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
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Charles445
General
Offset 2186, this will fix where the red section starts.
You should make a Hard
02:04:788 - That reverse is pointed the wrong way for some reason O_O . Move the point to the left until it fixes

Easy
00:24:204 - Have this turn at the tick
00:36:214 - ^^
Hey, this is really good!

Normal
A lot of this mod is combo modifications, it'll make it work better.
00:33:087 (4,5) - Bad spacing
00:37:215 - Remove new combo
00:39:217 - ^^
00:40:218 - New combo
00:41:218 - Remove new combo
00:43:220 - ^^
00:44:221 - New combo
00:45:222 - Remove new combo
00:47:223 - ^^
00:48:224 - New combo
00:49:225 - Remove new combo
00:51:227 - Remove break
01:09:242 - Remove new combo
01:11:243 - ^^
01:12:244 - New combo
01:13:745 - Remove new combo
01:14:246 - New combo
01:25:755 - Remove new combo
01:26:256 - New combo
01:26:756 - Remove new combo
01:28:258 - End this spinner at 01:29:884
01:31:135 - End this slider at the red or white tick, not the blue
01:34:137 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - Redo this entire portion, it has bad spacing and is far too confusing
02:06:789 - Have this turn at the tick
02:12:294 - ^^
02:17:798 - Remove new combo
02:19:800 - ^^
02:20:801 - New combo
It seems too confusing for a normal.
Vortex_old
107 posts
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Vortex_old
Fixed! Thanks for modding, hard diff should follow in a few days! :D
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
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wmfchris
mod:

[general]
disable countdown
BG in 700x500 size, resize it into 4:3 (e.g. 800x600)
highly recommend to make a Hard

[Normal] several pattern like 00:20:701 (1,2,3) is a bit weird whtn testing, maybe add an ote before (3)
00:07:190 (6) - if possible make this parallel with (2)?
00:10:943 (x) - why not a note?
00:29:208 (3) - whistle
00:33:211 (4) - ^
00:35:588 (4) - ^

[Easy]
ok

you haven't put hitsound in the later part of normal? : <
Repeating the same pattern too much make it a bit boring, but it's still a nice trial.

star~
Vortex_old
107 posts
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Vortex_old
Addet "Hard" and fixed modding thx.
akrolsmir
606 posts
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akrolsmir
General:
Bursts from the skin kind of blend into the background on the white parts.

BPM looks like it wants to be 120. I mean, it's video game bgm, and 119.9 is just so close. Haven't tested this myself though.

Kiai toggle starting from 2:15:296?

Easy:
Pretty fine.

Normal:
02:02:661 (1,2) - This arrangement of two circles looks almost exactly like one of the sliders that came before it. This is confusing; it led me to treat it as a slider and subsequently miss it. Consider actually making it a slider, or making this a doublet by placing (2) in the same place as (1)
02:08:290 (1,2) - ^
02:08:666 (3,4) - ^
02:09:041 (5,6,7) - ^
02:11:668 (3,4) - ^
02:21:802 (4) - Ends without a sense of closure. Try changing this to a slider ending at 2:22:802 and then a spinner from 2:22:927 to 2:25:805 (make sure to silence it).

Hard:
General note: places with multiple quarterbeats split into two circles (e.g. 00:48:474 (2,3,4,5), 00:54:479 (2,3,4,5,6) seemed... bad. Not quite confusing, but just unfun?

01:00:735 (4,5) - Too far from (2,3)- 1.75x instead of 1.4x. Hold shift + reposition.
01:01:735 (9,10) - ^ Even more so.
01:31:760 (1) - Move farther away from previous note?
01:39:266 (1) - Too close to (2).
01:39:641 (2,3,4,5,6) - Move section back 1/4th
02:11:793 (1) - Feels out of place on such an right-angular map
02:13:795 (2,3,4,5,6) - lacks any pattern whatsoever?

Most of the beats were placed very intuitively. Star!
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
It will be fixed in a few days (Now i don't have time for Osu!).
I will Reply, when it's finished.
Thx
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

akrolsmir wrote:

Kiai toggle starting from 2:15:296?
If anyone read this: What is meant with this? xD
marshallracer
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marshallracer

ZantoLP wrote:

akrolsmir wrote:

Kiai toggle starting from 2:15:296?
If anyone read this: What is meant with this? xD
I guess he means that you should put Kiai time to this part

i'll attach a file where I added Kiai Time like akrolsmir said (only edited in hard, you have to change the others still for yourself^^)

Download: Koji Kondo - Phantom Ganon (ZantoLP) [Hard].osu
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
[/quote]
I guess he means that you should put Kiai time to this part

i'll attach a file where I added Kiai Time like akrolsmir said (only edited in hard, you have to change the others still for yourself^^)[/quote]

Auf deutsch hättest du es mir ja auch sagen können xD

Thank you Again! I finaly upload it in one of this two following weeks I hope! Time = Worse x.x
marshallracer
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marshallracer

ZantoLP wrote:

Auf deutsch hättest du es mir ja auch sagen können xD

Thank you Again! I finaly upload it in one of this two following weeks I hope! Time = Worse x.x
jep, hätte ich, aber das wäre ja zu einfach gewesen ;)
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Normal fixed! Hard will be fixed soon! Upload follows later...
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

ZantoLP wrote:

Auf deutsch hättest du es mir ja auch sagen können xD

Thank you Again! I finaly upload it in one of this two following weeks I hope! Time = Worse x.x
jep, hätte ich, aber das wäre ja zu einfach gewesen ;)
Marshal --> PM --> Need help again and wouldn't 10 posts after another :P
marshallracer
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marshallracer
Here's your requested Mod, mostly Nazi things, but eh, whatever ;)
Suggestions are written in italic, things you have to change in bold

General :
- you still have to add Kiai Time in all diffs. ...

Easy :
00:16:198 (4,1) - resnap
00:51:477 (2,3) - ^
00:59:233 (1,2) - ^
01:03:237 (2,3) - ^
01:25:255 (3,1) - ^
01:31:760 (2,1) - ^

Normal :
- since this is a harder diff. than Easy, you also have to change the HP Drain, Circle Size, ...
Example :
SPOILER
00:10:943 (6,7) - resnap
00:20:451 (1,2) - ^
00:22:202 (1,2) - ^
00:33:587 (5,1) - ^
00:52:978 (4,5) - ^
01:15:747 (4,1) - ^
01:34:887 (3,1) - ^
02:02:661 (1,2) - too close, resnaaap ....
02:05:913 (4,1) - resnap
02:08:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not really neccsesary, but resnap (turn off Grid Snap Here)
02:11:668 (3,4) - same as above

Hard :
nothing to be picky on here, since it's a hard diff. and the spacing can be changed more freely ;)

that's it, I hope that's helpful ... and stuff xD
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Gave Kudos!^^
DerekMcD
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DerekMcD
Hello!!!!

-------------------------------------

Blue: You must fix this.
Red: You better fix it!
Orange: Screenshot ahead.
Black: Just suggestions though.

Easy

Have nothing to say...

Normal

00:11:193 (7): Needs snapping?

Hard

All the beats at 00:04:563 until 00:17:198 are unsnapped, but it's still alright.

-----------------------------------

That's it and help yourself a star. *Star*
Thank you and good luck.
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Thx, gave Kudos!
marshallracer
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marshallracer
say, are all diffs ready yet?
if so, set it to pending already xD
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
No, not all diffs are ready :D I've too much stress at the moment!

How can I set it to the pendings?^^ (When it's finished)
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

akrolsmir wrote:

General:
Bursts from the skin kind of blend into the background on the white parts.

BPM looks like it wants to be 120. I mean, it's video game bgm, and 119.9 is just so close. Haven't tested this myself though.

Kiai toggle starting from 2:15:296?

Easy:
Pretty fine.

Normal:
02:02:661 (1,2) - This arrangement of two circles looks almost exactly like one of the sliders that came before it. This is confusing; it led me to treat it as a slider and subsequently miss it. Consider actually making it a slider, or making this a doublet by placing (2) in the same place as (1)
02:08:290 (1,2) - ^
02:08:666 (3,4) - ^
02:09:041 (5,6,7) - ^
02:11:668 (3,4) - ^
02:21:802 (4) - Ends without a sense of closure. Try changing this to a slider ending at 2:22:802 and then a spinner from 2:22:927 to 2:25:805 (make sure to silence it).

Hard:
General note: places with multiple quarterbeats split into two circles (e.g. 00:48:474 (2,3,4,5), 00:54:479 (2,3,4,5,6) seemed... bad. Not quite confusing, but just unfun?

01:00:735 (4,5) - Too far from (2,3)- 1.75x instead of 1.4x. Hold shift + reposition.
01:01:735 (9,10) - ^ Even more so.
01:31:760 (1) - Move farther away from previous note?
01:39:266 (1) - Too close to (2).
01:39:641 (2,3,4,5,6) - Move section back 1/4th
02:11:793 (1) - Feels out of place on such an right-angular map
02:13:795 (2,3,4,5,6) - lacks any pattern whatsoever?

Most of the beats were placed very intuitively. Star!
Where should I put the Kiai? I forgot to ask...

Edit: Cleared!
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
FINALLY!!! UPLOADED Pheeew :P
Hushu_old
207 posts
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Hushu_old
Chose your own combo colours, best if they would be softer, because the current ones don't suit the BG...

SPOILER
Hard:
Hp drain -1
0:08:563 - You just had a finish sound and there is no new combo on the next note. New combo here.
0:08:938 - No new combo
0:32:428 - Add a note here
0:50:189 - No new combo
0:53:189 - ^
0:55:189 - ^
0:56:189 - New combo
0:57:189 - No new combo
1:35:637 - No new combo
1:39:262 - No new combo here, new combo 1/2 later.
2:02:767 - Place a spinner here instead.
2:13:763 - New combo

Normal:
0:06:936 - space it out so that it is not underneath the slider 'cuz that is unrankable.
0:29:686 - No new combo
0:30:186 - New combo
0:31:186 - No new combo.
0:32:437 - New combo
1:16:188 - Add a note here make it new combo and remove the nc 1/1 later.
1:16:438 - Add a note
2:06:263 - No new combo, new combo 1/1 later like you've done for 2:09:763.
2:11:263 - new combo
2:13:763 - ^
2:14:263 - ^
2:14:763 - No new combo

Easy:
0:06:186 - No new combo
0:11:186 - ^
0:18:186 - ^
0:23:186 - ^
0:24:186 - New combo
0:26:186 - No new combo
0:28:186 - ^
0:53:186 - ^
0:58:186 - ^
0:59:186 - ^
1:01:186 - New combo here not 2/1 later
1:06:186 - No new combo
1:26:186 - No new combo
1:31:186 - No new combo
1:32:686 - ^
1:33:686 - New combo
1:36:686 - No new combo
1:37:686 - New combo
1:40:186 - No new combo, New combo 2/1 later instead.
Recheck all combos incase I missed something out.
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Vortex_old
107 posts
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Vortex_old

Hushu wrote:

Chose your own combo colours, best if they would be softer, because the current ones don't suit the BG...

SPOILER
Hard:
Hp drain -1
0:08:563 - You just had a finish sound and there is no new combo on the next note. New combo here.
0:08:938 - No new combo
0:32:428 - Add a note here
0:50:189 - No new combo
0:53:189 - ^
0:55:189 - ^
0:56:189 - New combo
0:57:189 - No new combo
1:35:637 - No new combo
1:39:262 - No new combo here, new combo 1/2 later.
2:02:767 - Place a spinner here instead.
2:13:763 - New combo

Normal:
0:06:936 - space it out so that it is not underneath the slider 'cuz that is unrankable.
0:29:686 - No new combo
0:30:186 - New combo
0:31:186 - No new combo.
0:32:437 - New combo
1:16:188 - Add a note here make it new combo and remove the nc 1/1 later.
1:16:438 - Add a note
2:06:263 - No new combo, new combo 1/1 later like you've done for 2:09:763.
2:11:263 - new combo
2:13:763 - ^
2:14:263 - ^
2:14:763 - No new combo

Easy:
0:06:186 - No new combo
0:11:186 - ^
0:18:186 - ^
0:23:186 - ^
0:24:186 - New combo
0:26:186 - No new combo
0:28:186 - ^
0:53:186 - ^
0:58:186 - ^
0:59:186 - ^
1:01:186 - New combo here not 2/1 later
1:06:186 - No new combo
1:26:186 - No new combo
1:31:186 - No new combo
1:32:686 - ^
1:33:686 - New combo
1:36:686 - No new combo
1:37:686 - New combo
1:40:186 - No new combo, New combo 2/1 later instead.
Recheck all combos incase I missed something out.
Finished & uploaded
marshallracer
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marshallracer
another recheck ...
Diemal auf Deutsch :3

[Generell]
Das Timing sollte in allen Diffs. das gleiche sein, das gilt auch für Easy

[Easy]
- ... Timing, siehe oben

[Normal]
Sehr gut ;)

[Hard]
- 00:48:189 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - eh ... das Spacing ist nicht gerade gut
- 02:02:762 (7,1) - lösch die 7 oder lass den spinner 1/4 später starten ... ich rate zu ersterem ;)


Das war's dann auch schon von mir ^^
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

another recheck ...
Diemal auf Deutsch :3

[Generell]
Das Timing sollte in allen Diffs. das gleiche sein, das gilt auch für Easy

[Easy]
- ... Timing, siehe oben

[Normal]
Sehr gut ;)

[Hard]
- 00:48:189 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - eh ... das Spacing ist nicht gerade gut
- 02:02:762 (7,1) - lösch die 7 oder lass den spinner 1/4 später starten ... ich rate zu ersterem ;)

Wo hab ich denn beim Timing was falsch gemacht? :P

Achja, danke nochmal :D

Das war's dann auch schon von mir ^^
Zeek
45 posts
Joined August 2008
Zeek
imho, I honestly hate the plain background on this, it just doesn't suit it quiet right. Some Google Image searching lead me to this. Despite having the same art, the darker color of the bg fits the song more. You may also need to change the circle colors if you use this (I'm borederline on that).

Normal:
01:10:188 -> 5 is slightly off center.
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

Zeek wrote:

imho, I honestly hate the plain background on this, it just doesn't suit it quiet right. Some Google Image searching lead me to this. Despite having the same art, the darker color of the bg fits the song more. You may also need to change the circle colors if you use this (I'm borederline on that).

Normal:
01:10:188 -> 5 is slightly off center.
Gave kudos
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

another recheck ...
Diemal auf Deutsch :3

[Generell]
Das Timing sollte in allen Diffs. das gleiche sein, das gilt auch für Easy

[Easy]
- ... Timing, siehe oben

[Normal]
Sehr gut ;)

[Hard]
- 00:48:189 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - eh ... das Spacing ist nicht gerade gut
- 02:02:762 (7,1) - lösch die 7 oder lass den spinner 1/4 später starten ... ich rate zu ersterem ;)


Das war's dann auch schon von mir ^^
Wow, today...I saw that I forgot to write sth. in my last post xD

Also: Wo soll das Timing nicht stimmen?^^
Bzw. Wo genau oder was genau meinst du?^^
marshallracer
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marshallracer

ZantoLP wrote:

Wo hab ich denn beim Timing was falsch gemacht? :P
Easy :

Normal & Hard


Merkst du, wie bei der Easy eine BPM section fehlt? ;)
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

ZantoLP wrote:

Wo hab ich denn beim Timing was falsch gemacht? :P
Easy :

Normal & Hard


Merkst du, wie bei der Easy eine BPM section fehlt? ;)
Ich peils nicht o.O xD
marshallracer
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marshallracer
dir fehlt eine Timing section in Easy ._.'
ich lade die hoch, wenn ich es gemacht habe
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

dir fehlt eine Timing section in Easy ._.'
ich lade die hoch, wenn ich es gemacht habe

Danke, wäre nett o.O
marshallracer
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marshallracer
mööp
resnappen nicht vergessen ;)

Download: Koji Kondo - Phantom Ganon (ZantoLP) [Easy].osu
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

mööp
resnappen nicht vergessen ;)

Will be done, when I start to mod the next time :)

Muss ich vollen Upload machen, wenn ich das Hintergrundbild ändere?

Gave Kudos... :D
marshallracer
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marshallracer

ZantoLP wrote:

marshall_racer wrote:

mööp
resnappen nicht vergessen ;)

Will be done, when I start to mod the next time :)

Muss ich vollen Upload machen, wenn ich das Hintergrundbild ändere?

Gave Kudos... :D
ja musst du xD
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
I'll gonna do this work finally on weekend :)
Vortex_old
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marshall_racer wrote:

ja musst du xD
Sag mal, kennst du jemanden, der sich gut mit Bildbearbeitung auskennt?
Suche jemanden, der mit ein Schönes Mapbild von Phantom Ganon erstellen kann ;P

MfG
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old


How looks this?
marshallracer
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marshallracer

ZantoLP wrote:



How looks this?
omg <3
jetzt musst du das nurnoch im 800x600 Format in die Beatmap packen und hochladen ;)
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old

marshall_racer wrote:

ZantoLP wrote:



How looks this?
omg <3
jetzt musst du das nurnoch im 800x600 Format in die Beatmap packen und hochladen ;)
Und wie mache ich das? :P
marshallracer
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marshallracer
du ersetzt das vorhandene Bild im Ordner durch das neue ;)
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Achso, ok danke, falls was wieder mal is, melde ich mich :P
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Mostly edited! Will update soon <.<
Vortex_old
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Vortex_old
Problem: It didn't take the backround image, if I overwrite the old one o.O
Kojima_old_1
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Kojima_old_1
Hi there!

Normal
00:20:436 (1) - Delete (1) and (2) and add another short slider from where (2) was (00:20:686) to 00:20:811 (imo this sounds better)
00:31:186 (1) - either remove new combo entirely or remove combo and make a new one at 00:30:186 (5)
00:53:187 (5) - remove clap
01:16:688 (3) - ^

Hard
01:02:814 (3) - imo this note is too far away from the slider, I always pause too long unintentionally, no matter how often I play this section
02:06:263 (9) - place a 9th note here and shorten the spinner, so that it still ends at 02:08:263

I like this map, have a star. :)
Vortex_old
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Entrail wrote:

Hi there!

Normal
00:20:436 (1) - Delete (1) and (2) and add another short slider from where (2) was (00:20:686) to 00:20:811 (imo this sounds better)
00:31:186 (1) - either remove new combo entirely or remove combo and make a new one at 00:30:186 (5)
00:53:187 (5) - remove clap
01:16:688 (3) - ^

Hard
01:02:814 (3) - imo this note is too far away from the slider, I always pause too long unintentionally, no matter how often I play this section
02:06:263 (9) - place a 9th note here and shorten the spinner, so that it still ends at 02:08:263

I like this map, have a star. :)
Thanks, gave Kudos ;D

BTW: Anyone wants to make a guest diff? :P After modding I will upload as a pending beatmap :D
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