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Satou Hiromi - Sayonara

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Mokou_Fujiwara
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年10月21日 at 13:19:05

Artist: Satou Hiromi
Title: Sayonara
Source: Mushi Uta
BPM: 122
Filesize: 10800kb
Play Time: 02:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Kakkon (4.43 stars, 369 notes)
  2. Rina (4.03 stars, 274 notes)
  3. Senri (2.51 stars, 111 notes)
  4. Shiika (4.83 stars, 436 notes)
Download: Satou Hiromi - Sayonara
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Accept for Mod.
Clare
star! 先!
Tatsuo
Here comes my mod~

[Overall]
BPM sounds ok, but I'm pretty sure the offset is wrong. I'm not an offset wiz, so you're going to have to ask a BAT to check it.
Also, one more thing I want to point out, is that you will need a difficulty that is under three stars. The reason for this, is that the BATs want new players to be able to play more, so to get your map ranked, you will need to include a difficulty under three stars.

[Rina]
01:00:245 - 01:02:458 - Hard to tell when the sliders end because of the rebounds.
02:50:655 (3) and 02:51:884 (2) - I'm pretty sure it would be better if you just replaced these with hit circles.

[Kakkon]
This is good. :)

[Shiika]
Oh gawd small hit circles for those jumps :o This was more fun to play when I made the circle size bigger by one tick.
The overall difficulty is pretty high, lower it by 1 - 2, and then raise the HP Drain by 1.
02:06:393 - 02:08:114 - A bit cluster-fuckish
Gah! I can't do these jumps. :o
Then again I was never really good at jumps to begin with.

Are you sure this is your first beatmap? Gee, it's already well mapped.
Here you can have this.
*Star*
Kecco
•Overall•
Offset : 3.980 ~ Resnap All Notes
I don't suggest timing sections with normal sound before the first kiai time, but it's up to you.

•Shiika•
00:10:573 (3) - Please don't make this covered sliders, they are awful. Try to move it away.
00:14:999 (4) - New combo.
00:27:048 (7) - Please don't make this covered circles, they are awful. Try to move it away.
00:29:507 (9) - New combo.
00:53:852 (1) - WTF? Very quick slider
00:59:015 (6) - New combo.
01:02:950 (7) - New combo.
01:03:442 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:15:245 (9) - New combo.
01:15:737 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:17:212 (7) - New combo.
01:23:114 (8) - ^
01:47:950 (7) - ^
01:59:999 (6) - ^

•Kakkon•
02:35:655 (1) - Wrong spacing.

•Rina•
00:08:360 (6) - New combo.
00:13:770 (4) - ^
00:14:999 (2) - ^
00:19:671 (5) - ^
00:21:638 (6) - ^
00:29:507 (3) - ^
00:33:934 (5) - ^
00:43:278 (6,1) - Wrong spacing.
00:45:737 (5) - New combo.
00:59:507 (8) - ^
01:10:327 (1) - 1 grid left?
01:10:573 (2) - 1 grid left and 1 up?
01:17:212 (8) - New combo.
01:20:901 (4) - ^
01:23:114 (5) - ^
01:24:589 (7) - Awful heart.
01:44:261 (3) - New combo.
01:48:688 (7) - Move this slider on the following white tick and new combo.
01:52:130 (2) - ^
01:53:360 (1) - ^
01:56:065 (7) - Move this slider on the following white tick and new combo.
01:58:032 (1) - Wrong spacing.
02:01:966 (1) - ^
02:22:130 (6) - New combo.
02:27:786 (5) - ^
02:29:261 (4) - ^
02:37:868 (7) - ^
02:45:245 (5) - ^

Star~
eveless
你的COMBO数啊。。。。要好好搞一下。
音量线..我觉得这种搞法有点怪怪的..不过这个我不擅长- -

Kakkon
00:08:360(6,7)这里有点微妙,建议还是6踩白线到00:08:360,7拖到00:09:835
00:33:442(x)加个NOTE?
00:34:917(x)^
00:43:278(6)spacing
00:46:720(6)new combo
00:56:311(6)减少一个折返?并且02:18:934也是一样的问题,这后面有的有折返有的没,觉得还是统一一下比较好
01:21:638(6)这边的COMBO数感觉都比较需要改...好吧NEW COMBO
01:45:983(3,4,5,6)spacing并且对齐
01:53:360(3,4,5,6,7)^并且 new combo

Rina 这难度感觉spacing多多少少有点问题,需要检查
01:10:573(2)spacing
02:29:999(1,2,2)对齐

Shiika
00:29:507(9) NEW COMBO ?不过这个有点前后不搭
00:41:925(5,6,7,8) 下一格
01:30:990 (1)这里跟后半部分不对应。要不这里往后退,加个NOTE。要不后面往前拉,删掉那个NOTE

后面要么作完要么剪掉吧。
半夜不能玩。只MOD下先。
泪包加油。

STAR
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. Source: Mushi Uta
  2. ED可以放在Tags里
  3. 需要一个更简单的难度
[Rina]:
  1. 00:23:114 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
  2. 00:55:573 - KIAI和normal hitsounds的使用建议从这里开始
  3. 00:55:081 (3,4,5) - spacing
  4. 00:57:786 (3,4,5,6) - ^
  5. ....note间距要尽量保持一致 否则HR下会很难看
  6. 01:24:589 (10) - 不美观..
  7. 02:18:196 - KIAI和normal从这里开始好点
  8. 02:57:540 (T) - KIAI这里结束
[Kakkon]:
  1. note声音突然出现和消失很让人费解...可以降低升高 但是几乎没有是不好的
  2. 01:06:393 (6,7) - 这个跳有点Orz
  3. KIAI和Normal hitsounds不再指出
[Shiika]:
  1. 00:53:852 (1) - unrankable spinner...太短了 test下转不够2000
  2. 02:16:474 (1) - ^
节奏掌握的不错 最高难的海沟跳看起来好看 好不好玩就不清楚了...
vincerio
It will be better if you cut unwanted part(unplayed) of the song out.(~1:30 mins :o )

[Rin]
decrease overall difficulty by 1?


[Shiika] very hard for mouse user - -*
01:53:160 - add note here?
02:19:717 - add note here?
02:27:422(1) - delete overlap note here...
00:25:406 - add note here?

nice~*
Topic Starter
Mokou_Fujiwara
already fixed it. and add a new diff
thank for all
Pokie
SPOILER
:( 剛才點錯按鍵, mod 內容都消失了...
所以先星...待會編輯(現在有事要忙XD)

ummm, rina難度出現各種重疊note..
那個難度是發生什麼事情了嗎...D:

General
- 去掉countdown?
- 刪掉.osb 檔案後full-submit

Senri
00:37:914 (5) - spacing
00:45:783 (1,2,3,4,5) - 最好不要easy裡面jump o.o
02:12:340 (6) - spacing
02:08:406 (1,2,3,4) - 同00:45:783
SPOILER
00:54:389 (T) - 移到00:54:635
02:11:971 (T) - 為什麼這裡開始突然變成100音量@@
02:16:398 (T) - 突..突然mute了D: !
02:17:197 (T) - 移到02:17:258
02:54:758 (T) - 移到02:53:652

Rina
00:43:323 (6) - spacing
02:10:373 (6) - ^
02:29:307 (4) - ^
02:53:652 (x) - spinner在這裡開始?
SPOILER
00:03:979 (T) - 多餘綠線..還有這段換回Soft音效0.0?
00:35:332 (T) - 換成綠線?
00:51:561 (T) - 音量80?
00:53:774 (T) - 多餘綠線0.0
00:54:389 (T) - 移到00:54:635
02:10:250 (T) - 降低音量?
02:17:135 (T) - 移到02:17:258

Kakkon
00:38:652 (8) - 增長至00:39:143?
00:57:340 (1) - no clap
01:06:684 (7) - 個人覺得不太好D: 跳太遠了
01:25:619 (5) - spacing
SPOILER
kiai 部份參考前面的難度
00:14:922 (T) - 音量
00:20:332 (T) - 音量

Shiika
00:53:775 (1) - 短spinner接大跳o.o...好觸
kiai跟音量麻煩參考前面的難度XD 我有點懶的再寫一次hahaha

整體上來說不錯 :D
Topic Starter
Mokou_Fujiwara
因为破笔记本各种触摸屏 我刚刚发现lol
基本上修改完了
Neethime
;) nice song~
Frill
[Senri]

00:37:176 (4,5) - Aimod spacing
00:54:389 - this kiai time volume 70~80%
00:57:586 (4) - new combo
01:09:389 (1) - this spinner end 01:10:865 -
01:21:193 (4) - New combo
02:17:258 - this kiai time volume 70~80%


[Rina]

00:19:717 (5) - New combo
00:59:307 (7) - ^
01:06:930 (5) - ^
02:37:176 (4) - ^
02:40:373 (9) - ^
02:45:045 (4) - ^
02:54:881 (1) - add finsih

[Kakkon]

goo


+Star
Vikon
[General]
1) delete the .osb file
2) consider to disable the countdown in 4 diffs? (seems this song is not suitable for countdown...the strong man is shouting "are you ready" when the background music is really soft.)
3) consider to slience the sliderside by adding a slient silderside file?
4) all red timing section should be the same in different difficulties.

[Senri]
00:03:98 delete 1 red timing section
00:45:783 (4,1) check spacing ( no such a big jump in [Easy] or [Normal] plz)
01:11:111 (1,1) 1/2 note after spinner is not suitable for [Easy] and [Normal]
02:16:029 (1) end this spinner at 02:17:258 and let the kiai time start here. also, delete 02:17:258 (1) ( 1/4 note after a spinner is not allowed in [Easy] or [Normal] )

[Rina]
00:35:332 delete this timing section?

[Kakkon]
00:29:553 (1) too close to 00:29:061

[Shiika]
00:05:57 useless timing section? or you forgot to make changes?
01:34:10 ^
02:06:930 (4,5,6,7,8) a little bit hard to read.
02:48:734 (3,4,5) check spacing


Star.
P.S. seems you have made some changes when I was modding lol, hope my suggestions are still effective.
gdeath
Overall:
tag里写Anime就行。吧ED去掉

[Senri]
00:03:980 为什么这里有重复的两条timing?去掉一个多余的。
00:03:980 --->> 00:35:455 可以适当的加一些soft-whistle
01:42:340 --->> 02:16:029 ^

[Rina]
开始部分和[Senri]一样使用soft-hit听起来比较好。
高潮部分可以使用Normal-hit.柔和部分全部使用soft-hit.

[Kakkon]
00:28:570 (1,2,3) - remove clap.首先soft-clap不适合柔和部分的节奏;其次连续的下soft-clap是忌讳;最后,请按照自身的判断来解读我的建议。
00:30:783 (1,3,5) - ^

[Shiika]
根据上述说的也相应修改下hitsound.
图本身没多少问题,作为第一张图来说,已经很不错了。

Star!
gdeath
延迟...
[DBF]
[Senri]
00:11:848 (1) - finish in end.
00:13:816 (2) - ^
00:24:143 - whistle.
00:26:111 - ^
00:27:586 (5) - finish in end.
00:29:553 (6) - ^
00:45:045 (4,1) - (1) must be closed to (4).
01:14:799 (5) - clap in end.
01:15:783 (6) - ^
01:29:061 (5) - clap in start and end.
01:52:176 (3) - whistle.
01:54:143 (5) - whistle in start.
01:55:619 (6) - whistle in center.
02:02:012 (7) - remove whistle.
02:02:504 (1) - whistle in center.
02:05:453 - whistle.
02:07:914 (7) - ^
02:09:881 (4) - ^
02:16:029 (1,1) - spinner + fast bit not good for easy, and spinner really so fast for easy.
02:45:783 - clap.
02:47:750 - ^
02:49:717 - finish.
02:53:898 (1) - ^

[Rina]
00:03:979 - 00:35:332 need more hitsounds, use whistle and finish.

all fine about spacing.

[Kakkon]
00:19:717 (1,2,3,4) - Edit > Flip Horizontally.
00:25:619 (5,1) - so close.
00:29:061 (3,1) - ^
01:02:258 (4,5,1) - compare spacing, i think that too so close.
01:30:537 (7) - put that slider away of (6).
02:27:094 (6,1) - so close.

[Shiika]
01:43:324 (4,5,6,7,8) - where claps?
01:51:193 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^
02:08:406 (1,2,3,4) - that bits out of border, that not correct, put it on border.

I like hitsounds in last difficulty.

Star~
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
timing上感到一定的late,大概+8ms. 另第一个kiai结束应该在01:31:029
很多重叠的问题……这个如果你不是直接从之前的结束点(主要是指slider)直接拉的话,就要关掉grid snap自己仔细对齐,建议各难度都复核一遍。
音效上……上传了两个,我不知道这两个音效会不会有比较好的配合?(主要指前面偏静的部分),sliderslide音考虑消掉吧

[Senri]
前面可以考虑多些whistle,整体建议new combo可以多用点
00:32:012 (2,3,4) - 美观需求,样例1:

00:33:980 (4,1) - spacing
00:45:045 (4,1) - ^,顺带一提,13不对称的,差一格
00:47:750 (5) - 如果仍然这个结构的话,new combo
02:50:701 (2) - 右上一?后面也跟着变动

[Rina]
感觉要用到0.9 Stack Lenienc,如果这样的话请全难度统一。
01:11:111 (4) - nazi,上一格。后边跟着变动。顺便这数字好喜。
01:28:078 (3,4) - 这俩slider倾斜角不一样啊。。orz,这时复制粘贴了来摆吧。
01:45:536 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2下一3左一6右一,应该好些。
02:37:668 (3) - 左上一
02:52:422 (3,4,5,6) - 很奇怪,自己调下吧。

[Kakkon]
这歌可能适合更多的用二连而不是三连,另外三连的摆法可以多样点,比如一个 1/4 slider带进下一个长slider做三连
我觉得间距大了。。
00:15:045 (1) - 爆音了,以及其他几个soft拉到100的地方也是,调低吧
00:45:783 (7) - new combo
01:30:045 (6) - ^
02:52:668 (6) - ^

[Shiika]
用默认的normal-hitnormal再开始做出的那些三连五连各种不好听。强烈建议改。可以考虑默认whistle配自定义finish(风铃)和clap,已上传……另就是默认clap的契合度也比较糟糕,但没到受不了
间距我只表示彩笔压力很大……
01:06:684 (6,7,8) - 6 new combo, 另6 8 明显不对称……另就是这个布局出现了很多次?是刻意的吗
01:29:061 (5,6) - spacing
02:18:242 (5) - new combo

后面两个难度实在不知道怎么nazi或者怎么spacing……hitsounds要改的话大概就需要比较大的改动了(尤其最后一个)
Edit:……没给星只是我失误没点而已……不过既然recheck就稍微加点吧……最后难度加了前面的hitsounds。。。合不合口味怎么用都随你了


Download: hitsounds.rar

Download: Satou Hiromi - Sayonara (Mokou_Fujiwara) [Shiika hitsounds].osu
IceBeam
Hello Mokou_Fujiwara.

[All difficulties]
00:55:627(x) - Start Kiai here?
02:18:250(x) - ^

[Senri]
00:45:791 (1) - Fix the spacing here.You can switch off the Distance Snap on (2,3,4) as you did,but this one must be spaced right.Anyway,it's too unexcpected.
02:14:315 (7) - Allign better,please.
02:17:266 (1) - What a jump on 1.5 star map? Well,I don't mind,better wait for BAT's conclusion.

[Rina]
01:12:102 (6) - Allign.
02:03:004 (2) - Use auto-allign.
02:10:381 (6) - Allign.
02:38:660 (5) - ^

[Kakkon]
00:42:594 (8) - Allign better.
02:18:987 (6) - Use auto-allign.

[Shiika]
Well,the same concept as above.The rest of your sliders need to be alligned better.I've listed the most visible,but probably I missed some,so you better check precisely by yourself.And another one...2,4 slider velocity? Oh,please,kill me.

Good luck,have a star~
Topic Starter
Mokou_Fujiwara
all fixed. thanks
kino77
Hi~

[General]
不太喜欢难度的名称,这样用看不出难易度.

[All diff]
00:55:627 - Start KIAI here?
02:18:250 - Start KIAI here?
Try hitsound pattern like what I'm saying in Senri?

[Senri]
Turn volume up a little bit?
00:45:053 (4) - Move it closer to 1?
01:30:545 (1) - Start at next white tick and add note here?

Hitsound mod
SPOILER
00:55:627 - Clap?
00:56:119 (2,3) - Remove clap?
00:57:594 (1) - Clap?
00:59:069 (2) - Remove clap?
01:01:528 (5) - Clap?
01:02:512 - Remove clap?
01:03:004 (1) - ^
01:03:496 (2) -
01:06:938 - Remove clap?
01:15:299 - Clap?
01:17:266 - ^
01:20:217 (3) - Remove clap?
01:24:151 - Clap?
01:24:643 (6) - Remove clap?
01:25:135 - Clap?
01:26:119 - ^
01:26:610 - Remove clap?
01:27:102 (1) - Clap?
01:27:102 (1) - ^
01:43:824 - Remove finish?
01:44:807 (1) - Finish?
01:51:692 - Remove finish?
01:52:676 (4) - Finish?
01:59:069 (3) - Remove finish?
02:01:037 (5) - Remove whistle?
02:02:020 (7) - Remove finish?
02:02:512 (1) - Finish?
02:06:447 (4) - ^
02:17:266 (1) - Remove clap?
02:18:250 - Clap?
02:20:217 (1) - ^
02:21:201 (2) -
02:22:184 - Clap?
02:22:676 (4) -
02:25:627 (1) - ^
02:26:119 (2) - Clap?
02:26:119 (2) -
02:30:053 (6) - Clap?
02:33:988 - ^
02:37:922 - ^
02:38:414 (7,1) -
02:41:856 (2) - Clap?
02:42:840 -
02:45:299 - ^
02:45:791 (5) - Clap?
02:47:758 - ^
[Rina]
Make note spacing perfectly unified?
01:12:102 (6) - Put right under 5?
02:03:004 (2,3) - Move away from end of 1?
02:49:725 - Add note?

[Kakkon]
OD +1?
00:19:233 (4) - 1 grid up?

[Shiika]
Work hard on hitsound plz.

贴上来才发现是天朝人...我...
作为第一张图很不错的,真是后生可畏> <
Costom hitsound的声音很不错,就是一定要用在适合的地方,加油~
STAR~
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