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Kert
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 5 августа 2010 г. at 22:33:35

Artist: Capcom Sound Team
Title: Last Stage
Source: Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers 1
Tags: nes disney sadkangaroo
BPM: 176,3
Filesize: 2142kb
Play Time: 01:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,65 stars, 150 notes)
  2. Insane (4,97 stars, 205 notes)
  3. Normal (2,1 stars, 73 notes)
  4. SadKangaroo's Flower (4,98 stars, 232 notes)
Download: Capcom Sound Team - Last Stage
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map.
The last and the best sound theme of this game.
Last edit: offset 51, updated Flower diff
DeathxShinigami
Starred. Mod comes later.

[Normal]

Change the name to [Easy]

Lower HP drain by at least 2 maybe 3

Lower the circle size by 1

Lower the overall difficulty to however much you want

[Hard]

Maybe raise HP drain by 1?
CrazyBanana
[Easy]
00:05:35(1,2) - spacing...
00:08:07(5,6,7) - ^
Repair spacing in all easy, and maybe change BPM to x0,5 because theyre too fast for easy..
[Hard]
same, repair spacing...everything is bad...push alt change to 0,5 or 0,8, select distance snap on the right and remap all...
anyway, star
Topic Starter
Kert
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Armin
Here you are some suggestions.
[Hard]
00:00:37 (3) Align with 1
00:35:13 (4) add new combo
00:35:47 (1) Delete new combo
00:35:81 (1) Delete new combo
00:36:32 (1) 1 square overhead
00:37:35 (6) Quite confusing. Spacing?
00:39:05 (1) Delete new combo
00:40:41 (x) Add a beat here?
01:02:70 (2,3) Align with 1 please
01:03:73 (4) Align with the end of 3
01:06:45 (1) Delete new combo

[Easy]
I don't see nothing, sorry °_°

Nice, Starred.
Topic Starter
Kert

Armin wrote:

...
Thanks, fixed =)
minyeob
[Overall]
You need a background.

[Easy]
00:43:81 (4) - This is too far from (3). Use distance snap please
00:49:26 (4) - Same as above. This is too far from (3)

[Hard]
00:41:94 (4) - This is too close from (3).
Topic Starter
Kert

minyeob wrote:

[Overall]
You need a background.
Added.

minyeob wrote:

[Easy]
00:43:81 (4) - This is too far from (3). Use distance snap please
00:49:26 (4) - Same as above. This is too far from (3)
Fixed

minyeob wrote:

[Hard]
00:41:94 (4) - This is too close from (3).
One more beat added.

Insane difficulty soon...
Topic Starter
Kert
Insane difficulty added.
Topic Starter
Kert
bump.
James2250
make offset 35 or else on hard and insane you have a whole bunch of notes before offset (which isnt good)

then resnap all notes and go through it to see whats off after timing change (pm me if you want me to come back and mod it after you have fixed that)
ft1717492
:) A short and interesting map
~star~
Topic Starter
Kert
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
James2250
need to make offset the same on all diff's (im not even sure if one I gave you is 100% correct as mp3 starts so early so I would ask a bat or something but ok) but need to resnap on hard/insane anyway

easy:
00:08:58 (6) - increase by 1/4
00:09:94 (7) - move back 1/4
00:34:11 (2) - align perfectly under 1
00:37:18 (2,3) - odd for an easy
01:07:30 (2) -sounds odd..... back 1/4 and add clap?
01:08:66 (4) - ^
01:09:51 (1) - I dont like where this ends.. but couldnt find a better place to end it so ok

normal: *after resnapping*
00:27:26 (1) - increase by 1/2
00:29:98 (1) - ^
00:32:71 (1) - ^
00:34:07 (3) - ^
00:47:17 (3) - align under 2 better
00:54:15 (1) - shorten by 1/2

insane: *after resnapping*
00:14:84 (6,7,8,9,10) - spacing (if this is meant to be a jump dont have it)
00:27:26 (1) - increase by 1/2
00:28:11 (2,3,4) - need hitsounds?
00:28:62 (1) - increase by 1/2
00:29:98 (1) - ^
00:32:71 (1) - ^
00:34:07 (1) - ^

overall nice map.....as for the increase in 1/2 on all sliders, I dont think they go well with the music as they are now
*star*
Topic Starter
Kert
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Alice
Capcom <3

Insane
1/8? I'm not good at timing but are you sure?
00:28:71 (1,2,3,4) - Strange spacing.. Maybe move (2,3,4) close to 1. If it's a jump so you can leave it like this but it look strange to me. Nevermind :?
00:42:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - *watching the other parts of the map*... They are so close. O.o
00:48:92(4,5,6) - ^. Is that supposed to be "close-jumps"? xD I never saw this in an Insane map, looks confusing.. But again if you'd like to keep it like this... ^^'
01:02:36 (4) - Try to move it at the center. It's not a hard big jump and it looks better.
01:03:72 (4) - ^ (for both suggestions if you feel that bad you can ignore. but I think it look better, personal taste)

Hard
Again, 1/8? But as I said I'm noott a timing pro so maybe I'm just stubborn. But it feels strange in a hard difficulty.
Anyway, seems fine, I think.

Easy
Bigger hitcircles? :?
00:18:79 (3) - a bit confusing. Too close from 2. :(
00:21:86 (1,2,3) - you didn't use that spacing for the other maps of the map. Make them closer, I would understand if it was a jump but it's an easy diff
00:23:22 (1,2,3) - same

Great map.
Star. :D
Topic Starter
Kert

Alice Margatroid wrote:

Capcom <3

Insane
1/8? I'm not good at timing but are you sure? I just used 1/8 for moving misplaced beats
00:28:71 (1,2,3,4) - Strange spacing.. Maybe move (2,3,4) close to 1. If it's a jump so you can leave it like this but it look strange to me. Nevermind :?
00:42:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - *watching the other parts of the map*... They are so close. O.o
00:48:92(4,5,6) - ^. Is that supposed to be "close-jumps"? xD I never saw this in an Insane map, looks confusing.. But again if you'd like to keep it like this... ^^'
The map was many times recreated...now I don't know how can these parts look better. If you have any ideas, please tell me ;)

01:02:36 (4) - Try to move it at the center. - Moved
01:03:72 (4) - replaced slider with beat

Easy
Bigger hitcircles? :? - I don't know what to choose xD (DeathxShinigami asked to lower circle size)
00:18:79 (3) - deleted beat, increased slider
00:21:86 (1,2,3) - changed spacing
00:23:22 (1,2,3) - same


Great map.
Star.
Thank you ;)
Topic Starter
Kert
Changed background of the map and level.
Topic Starter
Kert
00:28:71 (1,2,3,4) - Strange spacing.. Maybe move (2,3,4) close to 1. If it's a jump so you can leave it like this but it look strange to me. Nevermind :? fixed
00:42:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - *watching the other parts of the map*... They are so close. O.o fixed
00:48:92(4,5,6) - ^. Is that supposed to be "close-jumps"? xD I never saw this in an Insane map, looks confusing.. But again if you'd like to keep it like this... ^^' fixed
I also made circles bigger in Easy, changed slider tick rate in Hard and Insane to 2 and changed sounds a bit.
heintsi
i'd increase drain a bit :p it's passable with this drain tho, fun map overall :)
Topic Starter
Kert
Thank you :) But in what difficulty?
Gens
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
DeadAlready
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Kert
Thank you and fixed =)
Gens
Some things I noticed:

- The SBed images are waay too large. Are you sure it's necessary? The map probably won't get ranked with those :(
- Oops... According to wikipedia, the real name is "Chip 'n Dale", not "Chip n' Dale". Sorry for making you change the name many times.
- You should keep the name exactly the same in "Source" :P

[Insane]
00:32:05 (6,7) - What did I told you about restacking :<

Just a small recheck. My osu!'s being gay so I can't play the map, but everything seems fine. (Make sure you full submit if you make any big change)
Topic Starter
Kert
Thank you.
Fixed title and restacked.
But what's wrong with the images being large? SB can be just deleted, but fun of playing will be just not the same...
Gens
Erf... Take a look at this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18229

peppy wrote:

That image is definitely too big, but that is also a very minor and rare bug (will probably only be triggered in cases where the SB is unrankable anyway).
Confirmed by peppy. :(
Topic Starter
Kert
Well, I deleted SB >_<
I am waiting for mod/bubble/e.t.c.
0_o
I'm getting an offset of 69 or so..

Sorry in advance for attacking your new combos :P

Easy
00:58:058 (1) - I would extend this to the next white tick
00:09:093 (7) - This note kinda feels awkward, I think it'll work fine if you just delete it
00:20:047 (1) - Remove new combo
00:24:055 (1) - End this on the previous white tick, notes directly after spinners are tough for Easy
00:40:071 (1) - Remove new combo
00:42:007 (1) - Move this further away from the previous note
00:46:015 (1) - Remove new combo
01:08:077 (1) - This spinner feels like it starts too soon, make it start on the next red tick?

Hard
00:53:048 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - All the new combos aren't really necessary

Insane
00:52:096 (1) - Remove new combo, and group the next 6 notes into two combos of 3
00:55:000 (1,1) - Remove new combos

Not bad! *
Topic Starter
Kert
Done. Thanks
Kytoxid
[General]

Consider using custom combo colours.

[Easy]

00:28:098 (1) - Slightly too close to the last note.
00:47:051 (1) - I'd place this slightly lower and to the left, so that there's some vertical symmetry with the 2.

[Hard]
00:20:047 (4) - Maybe make this 1/2 earlier?
00:28:064 (1) - Move it upwards a bit.
00:39:001 (1,2,3) - Shift this a grid left?
00:55:085 (1,2,3,1) - Uneven spacing.

[Insane]
00:12:048 (6,7) - This little hop is a bit random.
00:21:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stack the endpoints and notes?

Starred. :)
Topic Starter
Kert
Thank you :)
Dusty
[Hard]
00:09:059 (4) - You can make this slider look nicer. (move bottom-right tick more to right?)
00:47:085 (2,5) - Maybe move the top sliderpoint right and up (+2, +2?)

[Insane]
00:47:017 (3) - Clap here sounds funny.
Topic Starter
Kert
Fixed. Thank you
WyndII
Chip 'n Dale 1 - Last Stage

[General]
- You do not need to add "Capcom" in tags since the word is already in the Artist.
- Why is your source "Chip n' Dale 1"? Isn't that the title? Shouldn't it be "Capcom"??
- Just put the name of the game in tags or name of characters, console. etc.

[Insane]
I'm really confused on how you space the circle notes.
00:00:069 (1,2,3,4) - why is the DistanceSpacing here, 1.0? Shouldn't be 1.5?
00:04:918 - 00:11:044 - part lacks hitsounds.
ok.. you check AImod.

[Hard]
Good.

[Easy]
Fine
wmfchris
[insane]
0:43:460 (7) right 1 grid (spacing)

[hard]
0:00:579 (4) right 1 grid?

nice song, nice map. (just curious, what's the relationship between the song and the BG?@@)
That's all I can find, star~
Topic Starter
Kert
Thanks WyndII and wmfchris!

wmfchris wrote:

(just curious, what's the relationship between the song and the BG?@@)
Straight relation lol
I don't know if you are joking or not, but fatcat on the BG is the last boss of the game and the music theme I mapped was on the last level
wmfchris

CracK wrote:

Thanks WyndII and wmfchris!

wmfchris wrote:

(just curious, what's the relationship between the song and the BG?@@)
Straight relation lol
I don't know if you are joking or not, but fatcat on the BG is the last boss of the game and the music theme I mapped was on the last level
O_O

Maybe I only know Rockman and Megaman for Capcom... T_T
NoHitter
General
Please change the black combo color. It blends too much with the background.
In Insane 00:06:024 (4) - You can't even see the approach circles.

Easy
00:28:996 (1,2,3,4) - (3,4) is confusing for Easy. Maybe you can make (1) a note and (2) a long slider like on 00:27:635 (2,3).

01:09:155 (1) - Move spinner forward 1/2

Easy with it's 1/4 notes feels like a Normal...

Hard
Please restack all slider ends/starts properly

Easy has 1/4 notes but Hard doesn't?
arien666

wmfchris wrote:

Maybe I only know Rockman and Megaman for Capcom... T_T
Monster Hunter -> Taiko 13 song -> Yay! Wada-don!
[NO!!!]

Seems nice song :3
Anyway, good luck for your 1st beatmap :3
Topic Starter
Kert
Thank you!
Changed Easy back to Normal
DJPop
~Normal~
01:09:155 (1) - end on 01:13:409

~Hard~
Fine.

~Insane~
Add more hitsounds in some parts.


+Star
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. add Disney to the tags.
  2. make the lean-in 3 seconds.
[Normal]:
  1. 01:07:454 (T) - add a note with a clap and remove the clap on (2)
  2. 01:08:815 (^) - ^ but remove the clap on (4)
[Hard]:
  1. circle size -1?
  2. 00:40:397 (1) - too far, check the spacing
  3. 01:11:367 (3) - how about put it between (1) and (2)?
[Insane]:
  1. 00:20:658 (6) - make this just a straight slider
  2. others seems fine.
my favourite game in FC lol, good luck and star~
Topic Starter
Kert
Thanks DJPop and Colin Hou! I appreciate your moddings

Colin Hou wrote:

circle size -1?
I decided not to do it, the map started to look a bit ugly in my point of view...
If anyone else thinks that I should do it, then I will
Las Plagas
Not much to say and to mod really. I am enjoying the map. Star~
Garven
I love this game, and yes, this is by far the best song in there. Good choice. :D

[General]
Delete .osb file and full resubmit.
The dark blue combo color is a little hard to see when it ends up on the black background. Maybe opt for a purple/lavender color (think Fat Cat's suit)?
The timing feels a little late to me. Try offset 51 and see how that goes for you.

[Normal]
00:55:882 (1) - Having this half-covered by the three beats before it looks really bad. Try moving them so that they aren't. You have a spinner very soon after, so you don't really have to redesign much at all.

[Hard]
Your use of claps is pretty different from what I would do, so feel free to ignore some of my hit sound mods. I like to go with the music instead of making my own rhythms. If you do decide to do it this way, try to apply it to all difficulties.
00:09:580 (4) - Maybe try to align the end of this slider so it's lined up with the slider below it? Meh.
00:22:512 (3) - Remove clap
00:25:575 (4) - Add clap
00:28:298 (2) - Add clap
00:33:743 (2) - Add clap
00:35:104 (1) - Add clap
00:35:785 (3) - Add clap
00:36:466 (2) - Add clap
00:43:442 (6) - Remove clap
00:47:186 (3) - Add clap on end of slider
00:50:760 - Add clap at this point in time on slider (second repeat)
00:51:440 (3) - Add clap
00:51:781 (1) - Remove clap at beginning of slider
00:52:801 (3) - Remove clap
Well, for the most part, it's adding a clap to beats 2 and 4 to go with that cymbalesque sound in the song while trying to work out some of the rhythms that you used with the claps as well. Feel free to continue it or not.

[Insane]
01:04:050 (1) - End this spinner at 01:05:922, then add a note at 01:06:262.

Not much to pick at here except hit sounds (all opinions there) and the timing. Good maps!
Topic Starter
Kert
Thanks Las_Plagas and Garven
I changed some weirdly sounding claps on all the maps, I think it's better now.
Offset changed to 51, color of some buttons changed to fatcat's suit color, deleted osb
=)
Gens
[General]
  1. Now that the source appears different on the beatmap listing, you probably don't need "Chip 'n Dale 1" in the title anymore. Also, isn't the real title "Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers"?
  2. The osb reappeared!
  3. You don't need "capcom" in tags.
[Hard]
  1. Why not add the last spinner like in Normal?
[Insane]

00:17:748 (5) - Would be better if you deleted a repeat and added a beat instead, it's kind of confusing.
00:41:571 (3) - Same.

Timing seems to be fine, if anything, just a few ms more, but it's fine...
Gens
Didn't I tell you to add the last spinner in [Insane] too? Woops.
And hey, a custom override. Aren't you going to enable it on [Normal] and [Hard] too?
Topic Starter
Kert
OK, done.
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