I don't know how you do it.Rolled wrote:
Why, is he your scum buddy?Ph0X wrote:
I hope Chris isn't a dumbass this game like in the last game I remember playing with him.
;P
Uneasy in a threatening way or..?bmin11 wrote:
Knowing Two - Rolled - Chris friend alignment makes me feel uneasy >_>
About 5? I'm not gonna go back and check but it sounds right to me.Rolled wrote:
How many games of Mafia/WWG has everybody played, here? Not necessarily on these forums, but a rough total count.
rust45 wrote:
UnvoteAbout 5? I'm not gonna go back and check but it sounds right to me.Rolled wrote:
How many games of Mafia/WWG has everybody played, here? Not necessarily on these forums, but a rough total count.
Anyway Rolled, I think you're making hasty judgements, which is pretty scummy to me.
What?rust45, the first post of day 1 wrote:
Vote: Chris
I don't know you, you seem pretty shady to me.
Since when were RVS posts to be taken seriously?Rolled wrote:
rust45 wrote:
Anyway Rolled, I think you're making hasty judgements, which is pretty scummy to me.What?rust45, the first post of day 1 wrote:
Vote: Chris
I don't know you, you seem pretty shady to me.
You gave reasoning for your vote, saying Chris was "shady." Maybe that wasn't to be taken seriously, but truth is, it was hasty judgement. You then stated hasty judgement is a scumtell, and you unvoted, which sounded like an "I'm coming for you, Rolled."rust45 wrote:
Since when were RVS posts to be taken seriously?
I'm not certain as of right now anybody's role but my own. That being said, I'm going to place my scum vote on people who have given me scum tells. Not really much else to go on.animask wrote:
A scum tell doesn't always mark scum
About 5, I'm getting better at this game as I play more, really.Rolled wrote:
How many games of Mafia/WWG has everybody played, here? Not necessarily on these forums, but a rough total count.
I've played probably like 5 total, not including the ones that got canceled, remade, all that jazz. This is my first Mafia that I remember, though (I may have died n1 of another one or something)
My name isn't phox.Rolled wrote:
Hi my name is phox. I accidentally scumtell'd a page ago but I'm just going to brush it off as sarcasm, and plant heavy sarcasm in every sequential post to make my OP's "sarcasm" seem more legitimate.
vote: ph0xPh0X wrote:
Also, I will find it highly amusing if you manage a bandwagon against me.
or just not dealing it seriously with it. Accusing for meta relationship is weak and proven to be dangerous on the previous HNM game. So ya, I'm not weighing at all tbhRolled wrote:
Uneasy in a threatening way or..?
He was hoping no one (not even LS) would notice.bmin11 wrote:
and you can't vote Ph0X twice even your name is "Two" >_>
I don't know what post of mine gave you the impression that I don't think you're mafia. Maybe the lack of a post?Rolled wrote:
Two: I feel that Two is trusting me more in this game than in the past (lolmeta).
I'm supposed to be reckless player.lolwut? The only thing you mentioned was my first post calling it hasty judgment as I accused you of. As I mentioned RVS votes aren't meant to be taken seriously and reasoning for RVS votes should be treated the same.Rolled wrote:
Rust: hypocrite
Not always~Rolled wrote:
oh and Q is always mafia.
Why not Rolled or Ph0X? Just wondering why since rust45 isn't holding much attention by the othersTwo wrote:
if I were mafia, I would night kill rust45
Where did I complain? animask, please don't refer my actions on the other game (plus, how the other game meta game'd was really getting no where but just biting eachother for personal feeling. Unnecessary)animask wrote:
bmin11, if you're going to complain about metagaming, don't do it yourself.
It's a political term, such as when someone tries to run for public office but lacks the community ties which often times is criticized for not having. So I used the term to refer to Chris who doesn't know this community very well.bmin11 wrote:
P.S. What's a carpetbagger?
you wishDeathxShinigami wrote:
Have a feeling it'll just be Rolled/Two/Chris vs. everyone else
Some people like to play differently. I'm a townie so everybody else isn't mafia. You should get to learn how people play beforeRolled wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'm the only member of town and everybody else is mafia.
Is that why this is experimental LS? Do I win for figuring it out?
Seriously town, stop looking so suspicious.
edit: To elaborate, stop defending people you have no reason to defend. People should be fully capable of defending themselves. The fact that everybody is defending people other than themselves is not a pro-town trait.
animask wrote:
They seem to be the most offensive/annoying and use insufficient logic to back their thoughts.
You seem pressured for some reason and that is why I voted for you.
Oh, I know I'll be unvoting you~
Congratulations. You skipped over two possible obvious and not-strictly-mafia causes of my actions.Rolled wrote:
Ph0x: There are two situations where you would hope Chris isn't a dumbass.
Situation 1: He is your scum partner. This is less likely than situation 2, as you wouldn't associate yourself with fellow scum d1.
Situation 2: You know he is town, and you are attempting to associate yourself with another townie.
There's only two roles you can possess that let you know Chris is town d1. Both are scum.
I would recommend not including that as a factor. (That goes for you too, animask.) Then again, if you really want to use meta like that, go ahead.Rolled wrote:
I won't FoS or anything though because I'm pretty sure you died d1 in the last mafia. That would be mean to do it twice
It really, really irks me when people sheep like this (when I realize full well Rolled's "what", if taken as "you're being hypocritical", is complete bullshit). It makes me concerned that the shepherd will have no problems herding other players. It also makes me concerned that the sheep (DxS) is unable to be analytical. I would understand DxS's comment if it was his first game, but it is not, and he is making a derogatory comment against another player due to their (seeming) inexperience. So, to me, we lost a player (for the moment; not for the entire game, of course).DeathxShinigami wrote:
We got problems, rust doesn't know how to play this game.
Discuss.
Ignoring the light-hearted(-ish?) sarcasm in Rolled's post here, I am trying to look for the source of the "scumtell" exactly. How is a statement which is WIFOMly sarcasm (note the ";P") and completely meta (in intent; I can obviously see the gameplay affects) a scum tell? Basically, Rolled is just scumpainting me here. Setting me up for a day 2 lynch, I presume. (Typical Rolled play style, right?)Rolled wrote:
Hi my name is phox. I accidentally scumtell'd a page ago but I'm just going to brush it off as sarcasm, and plant heavy sarcasm in every sequential post to make my OP's "sarcasm" seem more legitimate.
Freudian slip? Rolled could be saying he's vanilla here.Rolled wrote:
... I'm going to place my scum vote on people who have given me scum tells. Not really much else to go on.
After, what, even a year, Two still holds this opinion. Break out of your comfort zone; you joined an osu! mafia game, so you participate in the osu! mafia metagame. RVS is standard practice in many mafia circles, and is effective (for all sides). Of course, as I'm sure have been told several times before, RVS ends when real discussion starts. Real discussion has already started. Hey, look! A random vote (by rust against Chris) sparked discussion! RVS is a great kickstarter, but it's not a stand-alone solution. Just ... deal with it. =\ (After writing this, I saw your comment on RVS which I must have missed earlier. Sorry if I came across as calling you a close-minded idiot. I still feel that way deep inside, but I didn't want to communicate it that harshly.)Two wrote:
the "lets all vote for random people ^__^" sentiment is horrible if you actually are town, since it 100% guarantees town dies day 1
I said this because of the shepherding and faulty logic (intentional or not) I noticed earlier (but could not thoroughly comment on, until now). Plus, it would be really amusing if I had a bandwagon on me, especially due to the faulty claims against me. No, I am not shivering under pressure, or whatever you (Rolled, Two, and everyone else) may have thought.Ph0X wrote:
Also, I will find it highly amusing if you manage a bandwagon against me.
Too much bookworming, dude. (You're showing your lack of experience, in short.) Think of the ways a double-voter would be played (in Two's shoes or even your own); I think you'd gain a lot from it.rust45 wrote:
Two could be this. I mean it is Experimental so basically anything goes.
Again with this meta. Vote for me if you want. If I was mafia, I could sabotage the game for you townies, so your line of thinking turns meaningless.Rolled wrote:
ph0x, I'd rather not have you lynched d1 because you are one of the stronger minds, and with the most experience, in this game. That's the logistic side of me. If I went with my gut, I would vote for you.
But truth is, you getting lynched d1 as pro-town is a huge win for mafia. It's not worthwhile to take that chance on a gut feeling.
Sorry I haven't been active; I have been busy the two days. I already kinda explained the reasoning behind my attitude, and I am sure you can fill in the blanks.Rolled wrote:
But at the same time, I wish you'd be giving me more reason to think you're pro-town. You've yet to say anything in this thread constructive towards the game. All you've been doing is trying to evade pressure by shrugging everything off as sarcasm.
Yeah; your sarcasmdar is totally screwy. Go re-read animask's voting post.Rolled wrote:
[FoS] animask: You gave no reason for voting for me other than that you thought my logic was wrong. You didn't mention anything I did specifically that you thought was scummy.
I can see why you're discouraging DxS for his reasoning (and I completely agree), but I don't see why you're trying to get the vote off of Chris and "somewhere else". Why aren't you telling Chris to change his vote? In addition, DxS's reasoning is a "good cop-out" if DxS is a town (or of any alignment, really) who has nothing to go on, too. (Again with the scumpainting, yeah?)Rolled wrote:
DxS: Making personal votes doesn't benefit town. Chris is in the game whether you like it or not, so place your vote somewhere else unless there's a reason you're voting Chris that we don't know. It's a good cop-out if you're mafia, though.
Translation: if I was looking to lynch whoever is least active, I would lynch Chris.Two wrote:
ignoring all other factors, my ideal lynch as town is chris cause he isn't that active
As I have stated, Rolled's general scumpainting and "extreme" scumhunting behaviour is part of his meta, in my opinion.animask wrote:
Rolled, you seem to be pressuring players a bit by lightly accusing them of being mafia. Seems like a Cop sort of thing. Aux/Mafia
Can you elaborate upon this? What information has rust provided, in your opinion?animask wrote:
rust45, information without much accusation. Seems kind of townie.
Don't tunnel me as superhelpfultownieperson so much...animask wrote:
Two, a bit annoying, but why vote for Ph0X? If Ph0X survives another day we might have a lead.
These two are not mutually exclusive. Also, "knowing" the latter wouldn't mean anything, because lurking is a behaviour, and not strictly a player or role trait or tell. (It is a tell circumstantially, but in 99% of scenarios that isn't important now.)animask wrote:
Chris, newbie or lurker. Which one could it be?
Typo? Did you mean "most likely to be pro-mafia"?Rolled wrote:
Alright, at this point in time we are going nowhere and town has a 0% chance of getting a mafia lynch d1.
Instead of gathering your own biased opinions (myself included) that nobody is likely to agree on, I think the best play right now is to find the person you feel most likely to be pro-town and hop on the wagon.
Take away the random and not-serious votes and you have Two voting against me, Rolled voting against rust, and (I guess; reasoning is super-weak even if I believed Chris; more OMGUS than anything) Chris voting against DxS.Rolled wrote:
That said, the people currently voting are:
Chris (DxS)
DxS (Chris)
Two (Ph0x)
Rolled (rust)
animask (Rolled)
There's a 5 way tie for 1 vote, 4 are not voting.
Then contribute and stop being such a faggot? Mafia is a game where you need to be involved and participate. Clues don't just come to you; you have to go out and seek them. One way to do this is to re-read posts. Another is to look at social and voting graphs. Just do something besides waiting for a bandwagon. I have a feeling you're scum at this point, if not a harmful townie.Quaraezha wrote:
Anyway, not sure who to vote yet.
What, so admitting you (DxS) were wrong and your logic was flawed is scum behaviour now?Two wrote:
It's one thing to be like "I was rolefishing", but to do a 180 with halfassed logic isn't cutting it for me. Especially right after you were voted for.
unvote, vote: deathxshinigami
Well, if you want to think that way, yes. It would definitely be that way if this was a WWG. But this is mafia, which is a very different game, so I don't think such harm like you suggest will happen.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Have a feeling it'll just be Rolled/Two/Chris vs. everyone else
I think Two just hates everyone who disrupts the SNR negatively.bmin11 wrote:
Why not Rolled or Ph0X? Just wondering why since rust45 isn't holding much attention by the othersTwo wrote:
if I were mafia, I would night kill rust45
Yeah, well, you guys naturally gravitate toward each other. You and Rolled have similar play styles. And, of course, there's meta history. Do you really think people are dumb enough (given the meta information) not to make (at some point) the association DxS made?Two wrote:
you wishDeathxShinigami wrote:
Have a feeling it'll just be Rolled/Two/Chris vs. everyone else
do you really think people are dumb enough to not notice you trying to paint us as a team? you've done it twice now, with what reason I wonder?
In my experience, that's not true.Rolled wrote:
edit: To elaborate, stop defending people you have no reason to defend. People should be fully capable of defending themselves. The fact that everybody is defending people other than themselves is not a pro-town trait.
lololol. I am. ;PRolled wrote:
ph0x you better be fucking posting
Good point! (Bravo!) I didn't see that myself; I was looking at it more from the "hopeless townie" angle.animask wrote:
The reason I think you're sus(s) is because you are accusing almost everyone of being mafia.
That is actually a scum tell. You seem pressured for some reason and that is why I voted for you.
I wonder if this post disproves your stupidly retarded theory. I didn't expect myself to post a wall of over 1500 words, but shit happens. I love mafia. ;PTwo wrote:
well, it's good to know that animask and ph0x are mafia day 1
Why vanilla? I don't really get what you're trying to point out. Re-read and I still can't see it.Ph0X wrote:
Freudian slip? Rolled could be saying he's vanilla here.Rolled wrote:
... I'm going to place my scum vote on people who have given me scum tells. Not really much else to go on.
The research he did about the doublevoter. Actually, now that I look again he hasn't really given muchPh0X wrote:
Can you elaborate upon this? What information has rust provided, in your opinion?
I don't think those other two scenarios are as obvious as you're making them out to be. A lot of people play this game cautiously, and wait for somebody to display themselves as a dumbass so they can rest well after placing their vote, especially d1. I'll admit that the other two scenarios are apparent, now, but I wouldn't have called them obvious. Given your meta it is a valid defense.Ph0X wrote:
Congratulations. You skipped over two possible obvious and not-strictly-mafia causes of my actions.
I don't like players dragging the game down. I don't like players who just dick around, cause chaos, or play dumb when confronted. It really poisons game morale, and osu! mafia games don't exactly have the reputation of being highly motivated after the first day (for a number of reasons).
In a similar fashion, I don't like players throwing their hands up saying "I didn't get the role I wanted" or "I don't care about this game" and interrupting scumhunting, providing misleads, etc. That behaviour detriments the town's ability to effectively play the game, giving the mafia a leg up.
The comment, although emotional and directed, did relate to gameplay as you saw. It was more of a comment that I hope Chris doesn't play poorly in this game.
As far as Rust's hypocrisy, when taken literally, his OP and reasoning for suspecting me could not have been more hypocritical. Regardless of the fact that rust's post was a RVS, that doesn't change the fact.ph0x wrote:
I completely disagree that it was hypocritical of rust to make that statement against Rolled
Could you please elaborate on your thought process here? Are you suggesting that I'm setting you up for a d2 lynch as scum, or as town.ph0x wrote:
Basically, Rolled is just scumpainting me here. Setting me up for a day 2 lynch, I presume
The wording here by you is strange. I can label deliberate grouping-of-oneself-with-town to be scummy sometimes, but I've never seen somebody deliberately group themselves with mafia, even with the context of your sentence. You're asking somebody to call you out here with the way you've worded this.ph0x wrote:
Again with this meta. Vote for me if you want. If I was mafia, I could sabotage the game for you townies, so your line of thinking turns meaningless.Rolled wrote:
ph0x, I'd rather not have you lynched d1 because you are one of the stronger minds, and with the most experience, in this game. That's the logistic side of me. If I went with my gut, I would vote for you.
But truth is, you getting lynched d1 as pro-town is a huge win for mafia. It's not worthwhile to take that chance on a gut feeling.
Maybe it isn't true, but that's flawed logic in the defending player, then. The only people that have valid reason to defend another person would be Mafia and the Cop. A town member taking some of the heat off of somebody who is possibly anti-town could easily generate false tells, which isn't beneficial for himself personally nor his faction.ph0x wrote:
In my experience, that's not true.Rolled wrote:
edit: To elaborate, stop defending people you have no reason to defend. People should be fully capable of defending themselves. The fact that everybody is defending people other than themselves is not a pro-town trait.
I obviously don't assume everybody is mafia as that's not possible, however it's a safer bet to assume any one given person is mafia until proven otherwise. And it's important to never put all of your trust in any one person until you have very valid, and publicly accepted, reason to do so.animask wrote:
Question: Do you assume everyone else is townie, mafia or neutral until proven guilty? Most of the time?
Things like this are best left unsaid to the public. It completely nullifies that reasoning since you've now personally made it publicly known.animask wrote:
(I'm not mafia and even if I was, I wouldn't need to respond so much to his posts in-thread.)
As Rolled stated, this statement is scummy.animask wrote:
(I'm not mafia and even if I was, I wouldn't need to respond so much to his posts in-thread.)
"Not really much else to go on." Mafia members, cops, and to a certain extent doctors do have extra information to go on. Vanillas don't.animask wrote:
Why vanilla? I don't really get what you're trying to point out. Re-read and I still can't see it.Ph0X wrote:
[quote removed]
Freudian slip? Rolled could be saying he's vanilla here.
Everyone wants to win. I see everyone as neutral, then shift them toward townie or mafia. Sure, it leads me to keeping players on those sides (sort of a tunnel vision), but it's just how I see the game.animask wrote:
My turn for question asking.
Question: Do you assume everyone else is townie, mafia or neutral until proven guilty? Most of the time?
What does that have to do with scumpainting and scumhunting?Rolled wrote:
Let me first state that there is a very fine line between scum painting and scum hunting. Different players, when holding different roles, act differently. This psychology aspect of WWG/Mafia games is the sole reason why I play the game. And you can't get players to give a reaction unless you give them something to react to.
Coo'.Rolled wrote:
I don't think those other two scenarios are as obvious as you're making them out to be. A lot of people play this game cautiously, and wait for somebody to display themselves as a dumbass so they can rest well after placing their vote, especially d1. I'll admit that the other two scenarios are apparent, now, but I wouldn't have called them obvious. Given your meta it is a valid defense.
You may mean "when taken seriously"; rust's statement wasn't figurative. rust's initial vote wasn't meant to be taken seriously; because you took it seriously, you misinterpreted, thus leading to this name-calling argument.Rolled wrote:
As far as Rust's hypocrisy, when taken literally, his OP and reasoning for suspecting me could not have been more hypocritical. Regardless of the fact that rust's post was a RVS, that doesn't change the fact.ph0x wrote:
I completely disagree that it was hypocritical of rust to make that statement against Rolled
"Look; Ph0X was scummy day 1 (as I pointed out here). He tried to cover it up, but now we've got him!"Rolled wrote:
Could you please elaborate on your thought process here? Are you suggesting that I'm setting you up for a d2 lynch as scum, or as town.ph0x wrote:
Basically, Rolled is just scumpainting me here. Setting me up for a day 2 lynch, I presume
There are two scenarios here (unless there's some neutral alignment):Rolled wrote:
The wording here by you is strange. I can label deliberate grouping-of-oneself-with-town to be scummy sometimes, but I've never seen somebody deliberately group themselves with mafia, even with the context of your sentence. You're asking somebody to call you out here with the way you've worded this.ph0x wrote:
[quote removed]
Again with this meta. Vote for me if you want. If I was mafia, I could sabotage the game for you townies, so your line of thinking turns meaningless.
If I am understanding you correctly, no, that is not WIFOM.Rolled wrote:
Maybe that's WIFOMish. But I never understood the concept of WIFOM anyway.
[Formatting corrected in quote]Rolled wrote:
First and foremost, Chris is probably one of the most stubborn people I've ever met. He could vote for somebody because of the shirt they're wearing, and I couldn't pay him to change it. Other than that, I don't take Chris's vote to be as OMGUS as you're making it out to be. OMGUS votes tend to more on the RVS side of the spectrum, and Chris has not only explained himself, but also has questioned DxS on numerous occasions. I understand that DxS has responded to the questioning as of right now, but that doesn't deter from the fact that the vote is not as OMGUS as you may think.ph0x wrote:
I can see why you're discouraging DxS for his reasoning (and I completely agree), but I don't see why you're trying to get the vote off of Chris and "somewhere else". Why aren't you telling Chris to change his vote? In addition, DxS's reasoning is a "good cop-out" if DxS is a town (or of any alignment, really) who has nothing to go on, too. (Again with the scumpainting, yeah?)
[Formatting corrected in quote]Rolled wrote:
Sarcasm? I'm assuming it's trolly because otherwise it makes no sense.ph0x wrote:
Typo? Did you mean "most likely to be pro-mafia"?
Wouldn't you hop on the wagon against the person you feel is most likely to be pro-mafia?Rolled wrote:
... find the person you feel most likely to be pro-town and hop on the wagon
See my vote against Mashley.Rolled wrote:
And did you truly suggest the same thing HNM1? I did quite a bit meta research, but did not see that. Well done if so, I like the thinking behind it (even though you said it didn't work well)
Different people have different perspectives. The person who is being attacked should try to defend themselves, yes. But realize there are other players in the game, and that the ideas as reasonings behind the offense and the defense can (and should) be analyzed by all other players. Faulty reasoning is dangerous (and often crafted and hidden), and if it isn't called out the mafia have a better chance of winning each time.Rolled wrote:
Maybe it isn't true, but that's flawed logic in the defending player, then. The only people that have valid reason to defend another person would be Mafia and the Cop. A town member taking some of the heat off of somebody who is possibly anti-town could easily generate false tells, which isn't beneficial for himself personally nor his faction.ph0x wrote:
[quote removed about defending other players]
In my experience, that's not true.
I see, there's been some confusion here.Ph0x wrote:
Wouldn't you hop on the wagon against the person you feel is most likely to be pro-mafia?
I said this because the votes were scattered evenly throughout the board. If we continued to move like this, it's impossible to get a Mafia lynch as all it would taken was one mafia member to bandwagon and get somebody lynched with 2 votes D1.Rolled wrote:
Alright, at this point in time we are going nowhere and town has a 0% chance of getting a mafia lynch d1.
There were RV's, there were arguable OMGUS, and there was biased reasoning (gut feelings, etc) Nobody had real meat behind any votes.Rolled wrote:
Instead of gathering your own biased opinions (myself included) that nobody is likely to agree on, I think the best play right now is to find the person you feel most likely to be pro-town and hop on the wagon
Of the 5/9 people voting at the time, I've come up with some reason to feel uneasy about 4 out of the 5. (rust, DxS, Two, and animask) If any of them turned out to be Mafia, which I thought (obviously) was a possibility, then they were voting for a town member. Hence I did not want to vote the same way as any of the four.Rolled wrote:
I have reason to suspect everybody on that list except for Chris. If any of those 5 people turn out to be mafia, there's a very small chance that they're voting for fellow mafia, so I'm not going to wagon and get a townie lynched.
Rolled wrote:
Experimental logic.
Innocent until proven guilty is what I go by. It's kinda close-minded but I don't like to try to directly accuse others, but look for good reasons as to why they're probably scum and let the lynch hopefully prove their guilt.animask wrote:
My turn for question asking.
Question: Do you assume everyone else is townie, mafia or neutral until proven guilty? Most of the time?
I just think they both have "I wanna disprove you" egos because they're both experienced at the game. Maybe I'm reading it wrong though.Two wrote:
3 options:
1. rolled and ph0x are both mafia and are trying to seem like they are on opposite sides
2. rolled or ph0x is mafia and is trying to create immunity for themselves
3. rolled and ph0x are both vanilla town and are posting so much because they don't have anything to lose
what do you all think
1. is out of the question on D1, no mafia would sacrifice another member on D1, would make it almost impossible to win.Two wrote:
3 options:
1. rolled and ph0x are both mafia and are trying to seem like they are on opposite sides
2. rolled or ph0x is mafia and is trying to create immunity for themselves
3. rolled and ph0x are both vanilla town and are posting so much because they don't have anything to lose
what do you all think
He meant by "distancing themselves"rust45 wrote:
1. is out of the question on D1, no mafia would sacrifice another member on D1, would make it almost impossible to win.
Okay; that's all I needed to know. (I had already accounted for that possibility, but I still wanted a clarification to be sure that's what you meant.)Rolled wrote:
As I have also stated, a bandwagon needs to start for the smallest chance of a successful d1 lynching. When I said "hop on," I meant "vote alongside the person who you thought was most likely to be town."
Yeah. I know. I understood it completely.Rolled wrote:
Experimental logic.
I vote for option 2. That sounds coolest.Two wrote:
3 options:
1. rolled and ph0x are both mafia and are trying to seem like they are on opposite sides
2. rolled or ph0x is mafia and is trying to create immunity for themselves
3. rolled and ph0x are both vanilla town and are posting so much because they don't have anything to lose
what do you all think
Why ... didn't you say anything?bmin11 wrote:
Well, it's a good sign for me since I couldn't fully understand Rolled's experimental vote until now. It's better then townies just wondering around having nothing said.
Okay, I'm back to normal...Two wrote:
3 options:
1. rolled and ph0x are both mafia and are trying to seem like they are on opposite sides
2. rolled or ph0x is mafia and is trying to create immunity for themselves
3. rolled and ph0x are both vanilla town and are posting so much because they don't have anything to lose
Reason why I didn't ask for Rolled's experimental vote:Ph0X wrote:
Why ... didn't you say anything?bmin11 wrote:
Well, it's a good sign for me since I couldn't fully understand Rolled's experimental vote until now. It's better then townies just wondering around having nothing said.
I didn't consider that because this strategy will only be valid d1. The nightkill will hopefully provide enough information to bring up stronger points against players.animask wrote:
@Rolled
Yes, the mafia will vote for a townie almost 100%. Also, I see how Chris would be on your "townie" list at the time, but what
will happen if Chris votes for someone who is currently being voted for? Have you figured out how he fits into the game then?
It's odd that you've posted twice in another game, while neglecting to post in this one.DeathxShinigami wrote:
So I shall post more later tonight...
The fact that you're pointing it out actually disturbs me for some reason.Chris wrote:
It's odd that you've posted twice in another game, while neglecting to post in this one.DeathxShinigami wrote:
So I shall post more later tonight...
these posts make me rage so hardDeathxShinigami wrote:
I got prodded. I am posting.
Currently getting off work atm.
So I shall post more later tonight...
Rules say my vote won't count until 24 hours before the deadline. Plus, I haven't had time to analyze the game again.Rolled wrote:
My question to everybody else:
What is your reason for not voting?
Not really. I can squeeze in a minute or two at work, but not 30 minutes or an hour to do some in-depth analysis like I have done before.Two wrote:
these posts make me rage so hardDeathxShinigami wrote:
I got prodded. I am posting.
Currently getting off work atm.
So I shall post more later tonight...
if you can post something that long (and do a followup post ^) you can post something substantive
MOD: Not to intrude, but if someone reaches the lynch amount before then, they will be lynched like normal.Ph0X wrote:
Rules say my vote won't count until 24 hours before the deadline. Plus, I haven't had time to analyze the game again.
:(:(:(Votes are transfered to the new replacements in games, so you technically are.Rolled wrote:
OH MY GOD I CAN'T VOTE FOR FOULCOON
If you look at HNM1, you would see I basically played the same way, laying low and letting others do the investigation. I realize this isn't the best way to move about, but in a game that's fun to play in (even when giving as little input as I did in HNM1 and as people say now), survival is important to me, no matter the role.foulcoon wrote:
After finishing thoroughly reading posts, I'm going to vote: rust45
rust just seems to either be either:
a. putting little to no effort into the game and taking more of a spectator role
or
b. trying to stay under the radar
Its not really in our best interests to wait for someone to act super guilty, or role claim mafia. I just think that the way you're approaching this is all wrong.
I don't use RVS to scum hunt, I use it to start conversation (like that vote did do) and I honestly don't think my RVS should be related to that.foulcoon wrote:
I also think its funny that all that Innocent until proven Guilty bullshit came out of your mouth after voting Chris because you didn't know who he was. I get that its day one but come on.
It's really hard to think if they are doing this intentionaly or just their play style. Either way, I agree that it's not beneficial to townies.Once I start seeing good activity and substance I'll be fine. I'm actually really uneasy with you because you're acting like always (when looking at the other two games I was in with you) and when you act like that, you end up scum, I know meta shouldn't be used to vote on someone (at least I think so) but not talking in general is pretty scummy in itself. But for now, FoS.Quaraezha wrote:
hi guys
Sorry for being inactive, I've been really busy working on the layout for osu!monthly since I had a deadline.
Really had no time to read so many tl;dr posts (from other Mafia games too)
I'll try to catch up when I'm free.