dvorak wrote:

map are good

bpm 185.186

Derekku Chan wrote:

Yes, usually songs use "flatter" numbers, but that's not always the case. However, you should always wait for a second (or third) opinion when changing the bpm/offset if you're not sure of it yourself. The other contributors and I tested the timing and said that it was fine, so to take someone's timing that doesn't even have any beatmap experience (no offense) is a bit confusing to say the least. xp

Like I mentioned in chat, the slower bpm screws the offset up by ~10ms towards the end, so it's really unnecessary.

Sakura301 wrote:

at least i didnt break anything

banvi wrote:

Derekku's
00:40:822 (2,3) umm.. put on (8)?

banvi wrote:

Saku's
oh, grid lv4 lol
00:23:490 (5) put on (3)? O
00:37:583 (9) 1 grid right?(grid lv4) O
00:44:872 (2,4) 2 grid down? O
01:37:842 (2,3,4,5) 4 grid up? O
01:52:907 (4) 1 grid up? O
02:02:464 (2,3) 1 grid right? X Actually better to move (3) 1 grid left i think
02:02:788 (4,5) 1 grid right & 1 grid down? X

nicemap overall
I hope thismap become ranked soon.

banvi wrote:

Garven's
00:41:308 (2) ummmm... look test play. I'm anxious because this circle overlaps with HP score bar.
01:36:222 (1) remove new combo?

dvorak wrote:

It is easy to find out .001 bpm difference in 3min flat song.

Derekku Chan wrote:

[Krisom's Color]
*Where are all the tags? o-o; (oh wait it's probably since you readded the old difficulties after bpm changing)Can you fix this Saku ^^?
*Preview point is missing as well (52647)Can you fix this Saku ^^?
*Snap kiai to white ticks (like before)Can you fix this Saku ^^?
*I'd end kiai where everyone else did, but it doesn't matter, I suppose.Can you fix this Saku ^^?
*0 spinners? =x Yeah =X, I never liked spinenrs much anyway
00:25:434 (2) - the first repeat is a bit crooked due to the extra anchor at the end of the slider (I've seen you do this a few times, but it's not the biggest problem the repeat is upside down, I suppose xp) Well, it's barely noticeable and fixind it messes with my symmetry by a few pixels, so no :3
01:44:321 (7,9,10,11,12) - This confused me into thinking that 9-12 was a stream of five notes. x_x It was that way originaly, but maybe the placement is not nice here... Changed
02:24:170 (1) - Please adjust this a bit so that the first and third ticks overlap completely. Otherwise it looks a bit messy..
02:26:762 (1) - ^ This is the best I could do

Derekku Chan wrote:

A full mod, as promised.

[General]
*Unnecessary .osb in folder.

[Saku's Melody]
*Might as well disable the countdown since it can't even be used. Ok
00:20:250 (6) - I only expected this because I've seen your diff so many times. When all of the other single notes before this have 1/1 spacing but this one is 1/2, this becomes a trap. :v Wah but it's following the lyrics =(
00:22:356 (2) - expected this to end 1/2 earlier. Wahh but sum1 told me to... adwdwewa >< Fine ill change it back.
00:23:004 (3,4,5) - the 4-5 jump was unexpected.. Ok back to the original.
00:58:641 (1) - I really dislike this spinner. It's so rushed that it really just doesn't fit the music. Fixed, replaced with slider
01:58:252 (1) - ^ ^
02:03:436 (1) - ^ ^
02:06:028 (6) - Sliders like these are really ugly. x_x For one, you don't need that many anchor points to get a nice curve. Second, smaller circle sizes show flaws in slider shapes even more prominently, so you really need to perfect things like this if you want a large, smooth curve for this slider. Not sure if it's better now X_X
02:08:619 (5) - expected this to end on the following white tick Fixed
02:13:803 (3) - ^ ^
02:24:170 (3) - ^ ^
*Lots of empty spots in this map. ): My normal almost had the same score as this diff before I made some song setup changes. I'd like to see more sliders to fill in the held vocal lyrics where you currently have nothing, a lot more hitsound use (all I hear are a few whistles with the occasional cymbal), and possibly some song setup changes. Perhaps up the circle size one notch (I hate smaller circles for both cosmetic and playing reasons), and maybe up the overall difficulty a notch as well. I see some nice things here, but then I equally see as many things missing that could make this a nice diff with a little bit more work. Good luck <3 I'll see what i can do, probably tomorrow as im not in the mood to map more today

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi!~
Remember that these are just suggestions you can totally ignore

~All Diffs~
- Delete the .osb file and Full Submit next time.
- Use the same colours on all diffs?


~Saku's Melody~
- Increase Circle Size by 1 tick? The difference between Derekku's diff and this one is big D: Sure

00:23:328 (4,5) - This is a bit unintuitive imo, maybe add a New Combo on (4)? Done after derekku's mod, fixed it a bit
00:51:675 (1,2,3) - Flip Vertically?It makes a weird stop D: ok

Nice map :3 Good Luck with it!! *star*

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://puu.sh/3Db - Move the white, highlighted anchor down one grid and you'll see that the slider ticks overlap perfectly.
http://puu.sh/3Dc - Move this one up one grid.

A slider's anchors don't need to be 100% symmetrical in order for the slider to be symmetrical as well. Regardless, ugly slider ticks would be a lot more noticeable than a slider not being 100% perfect. (the slider still looks great to me anyway)

no kudosu for this (obviously), but slap Krisom with a trout for me, sakura. :v

Derekku Chan wrote:

[Garven's Harmony]
*Might as well disable the countdown since it can't even be used. Oh, I never bother with these settings when I'm doing a geust diff, hehe. Can you change that for me, Sakura?
*There were a lot more single red-tick notes in this than I would like to see. :/ I suggest changing some patterns that are early in the song like 00:20:574 (3,4) Well, with the way the pattern goes, it fits right along with the song, and with a slider ending on a red tick and a steady rhythm right afterward, I'm thinking that it won't be a problem. Especially considering I use this rhythm/pattern often through the map., 01:01:233 (1,2,3) I was kind of worried about this one, but it's a powerful point in the chorus, and the sliders I have before and after kind of help buffer any life lost, and the player will know what to do the next time it comes up. It also felt quite boring if I just used a repeat slider., and 01:22:453 (2,3) I think up to this point, that vocal rhythm would be expected, and I had already used several sliders using that rhythm up to that point, plus a very similar velocity compared to the sliders. I think the player will be fine. to sliders. This would show what the musical pattern is, and so that the player will expect it the next time said it happens.

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi!~ ~

~Garven's Harmony~
No problems here~ ~

Bassmaster wrote:

~Garven's~
00:29:159 (1) - new combo
It's already there, though I suspect Sakura may have done it? I don't remember what I put there originally, heh.

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Saku's Melody:
Normal mod:
00:22:356 (2) - this slider wort of looks weird, because it seems like is it is supposed to point at 3, but it doesn't really, so can you change the slider shape to fix this Hope that did it
00:38:231 (1) - since the inititial straight part is very short, this slider does not look that great to me, so I am going to advise you change this slider too O
00:41:308 (9) - since it so close to aligning with 8, try to change to change the pattern so it aligns with 8 but still have 9 on the y-axis
00:44:224 (5) - the partial overlap here looks bad, here is where I recommend you move this tooO

SPOILER

00:50:218 (4) - it would look better if this was not partially overlapped by 2 O

Combo mod:
01:02:691 (5) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 5 to follow the lyrics and be consistent with 02:02:302 (1) O

Nice map overall, just pointed out a few things that I noticed and recommended a few things to beautify the map. Star! Thanks <3

blissfulyoshi wrote:

1)

Krisom's Color:
Since I had a little difficulty sight reading some parts of the map, OD-1 pls
K

Combo mod:
02:09:591 (5) - new combo to follow the lyrics? Not done for the sake of keeping the color scheme at the end (when rin sings, Yellow, when miku sings, blue)

Timing section mod:
01:12:921 - Why is the end of your kiai section not snapped to the whole note?
02:12:533 - ^ Dunno, saku did the Kiai times =x

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Garven's Harmony:
I am not a fan of the weak curved sliders, but since this is your mapping style, it is fine This is actually the first map I tried them out on. I like 'em. :D

Combo mod:
00:19:116 (1,2) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2 to be consistent with 00:39:850 (3,1) Ja, sure. Can you fix that for me, Sakura?

Weiren wrote:

[Garven's Harmony]
Overall Diff may +1? Nah, 'tis fine where it is.
Some notes is not in coincidence with the lyric.Ehnnn..I feel this strange
00:52:161 (1)This spinner looks rushing for noob..May start at 0:52:323 and end at 0:53:457? It's kinda, but not really. I'll consider if someone else mentions it.
01:00:423 (2)Start this slider at 01:00:261 and end at 01:00:909 I was going for the more stressed vocals instead of right when they sing every time for most of these. It has a better feeling to playing the song to me. Pretty much applies to your other suggestions too. I'll consider if someone else mentions these though.
01:15:002 (1)^,start at 01:15:164 and end at 01:15:812
01:17:593 (1)^,start at 01:17:755 and end at 01:18:403
01:51:125 (2)Move this note 1 grid down It's there on purpose. :)
02:00 034 (2)Start this slider at 01:59:872 and end at 02:00:520
02:14:775 (1)^,start at 02:14:775 and end at 02:15:423
02:17:205 (1)^,start at 02:17:367 and end at 02:18:015
02:24:980 (1)^,start at 02:25:142 and end at 02:26:044

Weiren wrote:

[Krisom's Color]
nice diff!Tehee~
HP Drain Rate +1? Only if it is requested again
00:49:408(6,1,2)A bit hard to read>.< Is it better now?
02:03:436(1)Try to make the end of the slider stack on the end of (4)←02:02:788 ?
02:04:084(3)Try to make the start of the slider stack on the start of (4)←02:02:788 ?
Both done

Star~

James2250 wrote:

Make background 800x600? Unnecessary. o-o;

00:40:174 (8,2,3,6) - make these all stacked Manual stacking done on purpose so it's not broken when playing.
02:33:727 (7) - I would prefer if this was a note No thanks. The slider follows the "rhythm" of the drums.

James2250 wrote:

Garven's Harmony:
01:15:002 (1) - sounds better starting at 01:15:164 and ending at 01:15:812 (to me it just seems to fit more) Mm, well, since it was suggested before I'll change 'em up.
01:17:593 (1) - sounds better starting at 01:17:755 and ending at 01:18:403
01:50:477 (1,2) - align Oop, that angle wasn't nearly enough. Nice catch.
02:14:775 (1) - same as sliders before
02:17:205 (1) - ^
02:25:142 (1) - ^
02:27:572 (1) - ^