I'm loving some of these bandwagon votes btw:
me wrote:
I probably got driven or framed.
pieguy wrote:
You didn't get driven. Vote Wojjan
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That does sound suspicious.
Adam: To put it bluntly, I'm a cop.
Adam: To put it bluntly, I'm a cop.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'm a cop, you idiot!
<Mashley> I'm a cop, Wojjan is guilty.
<Swiftwolf Yellowtail> I'm a cop, adam is guilty.
<Wojjan> I must have been driven or framed.
<Adam> What the hell is this yellowtail guy saying.
Unvote, vote adam
<Swiftwolf Yellowtail> I'm a cop, adam is guilty.
<Wojjan> I must have been driven or framed.
<Adam> What the hell is this yellowtail guy saying.
Unvote, vote adam
Are you absolutly sure your ability is an equivalent to a cop? I really don't want to mess this up, because there is a possibilty that you are a Tracker with a cop ability to search the target's target of the night. You are hinting that your ability could be that case. See those quotes below
If those are true, I'm going to heavily doubt on Mashley's role or his sanity (or even your sanity) because having two cops is a hard set-up to imagine. Again, please vertify this.
Wolf wrote:
I went to your destination, and found out that you are in fact mafia
Lybydose wrote:
You went to his destination? So you didn't search him after all, you searched "his destination". Which was what?
I'm doubt there are two different sane cops.
Please vertify these or else we might get into a deep hole of trouble.bmin11 wrote:
A Tracker that figures out the flavor of the victim's role?
If those are true, I'm going to heavily doubt on Mashley's role or his sanity (or even your sanity) because having two cops is a hard set-up to imagine. Again, please vertify this.
Allow me to direct you to this link: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tracker
Here, it clearly states the following:
Here, it clearly states the following:
The Tracker learns who a player targeted, but not what action that player performed.Now, if you're going to claim that I'm the other three, allow me to quote those, as well:
The Follower learns what action a player performed, but not who that player targeted.This means that none of the roles listed here show their alignment. Only a cop would be able to do that.
The Watcher learns who targeted a player, but not what actions were performed on them.
The Voyeur learns what actions were performed on a player, but not who targeted them.
Allow me to direct you to this quote:
I went to your destination, and found out that you are in fact mafiaThen let me direct you to the page on the Cop:
The Cop is a role that has the ability to investigate other players in order to discern their alignment at Night. Players who are investigated are not told as much.Please tell me which part of that involves going to your target's destination.
I cannot explain which part of that involves going to my destination. However, I have received information that I went through adam's files, which means I did not investigate adam himself, but rather everything in his home.
Swift, are you absolutely sure that you're just a run-of-the-mill cop, and received the result "Adam is guilty" last night? I'm still seriously doubting that there are two sane cops, it seems like that'd be too overpowered- if that's what you think your role is, I'd be betting that one of you or Mashley has some kind of modifier on you, like Insane or Paranoid (obviously not naive).
At which point, it'd just be best to judge who is scummier between Wojjan and adam. I'm leaning towards adam- Wojjan clearly seemed to think the result on him was a mistake while adam essentially dodged the question.
Vote: adam for now, subject to change based on clarifications in Swift's role.
At which point, it'd just be best to judge who is scummier between Wojjan and adam. I'm leaning towards adam- Wojjan clearly seemed to think the result on him was a mistake while adam essentially dodged the question.
Vote: adam for now, subject to change based on clarifications in Swift's role.
"adam's file"
Good enough info for me to vote on Adam unless Adam's role has to do something with notes
Good enough info for me to vote on Adam unless Adam's role has to do something with notes
I'm sitting put on Wojjan at the moment.
Swift could be a role cop of sorts, if his result was mainly the flavor of "regretting joining the mafia" That would make some sense but still would be odd.
Swift could be a role cop of sorts, if his result was mainly the flavor of "regretting joining the mafia" That would make some sense but still would be odd.
Ugh this is all just a whole lot of WIFOM.akrolsmir wrote:
At which point, it'd just be best to judge who is scummier between Wojjan and adam. I'm leaning towards adam- Wojjan clearly seemed to think the result on him was a mistake while adam essentially dodged the question.
Plus adam has the habit of doing exactly what he's doing right now when he's town and a bandwagon forms on him.
"When it comes down to it, everything is WIFOM." - LadySuburu
...if I remember it correctly.
Anyway, are you saying you're trying to protect adam, who is guilty? I mean, take a look at your post:
Also, I received information that I found "valuable information" about the fact that he is mafia!
...if I remember it correctly.
Anyway, are you saying you're trying to protect adam, who is guilty? I mean, take a look at your post:
exactly what he's doing right now when he's townThis post makes YOU look suspicious!
Also, I received information that I found "valuable information" about the fact that he is mafia!
Okay seems reasonable enough. I really doubt there would be a role that manipulates Adam's belongings. Vote: Adam
Every post you say is "ADAM IS MAFIA ADAM IS MAFIA"
You realize that your role might be:
1. misleading
2. false
3. something else happened like Wojjan said
Clearly everyone who disagrees with you MUST be mafia
You realize that your role might be:
1. misleading
2. false
3. something else happened like Wojjan said
Clearly everyone who disagrees with you MUST be mafia
He stated his PM indicates "The note was found from Adam's file" and "The piece shows Adam is mafia". I don't think his PM would ever lie unless somehow someone manipulated Adam's file.
He could still be lying or some sort of "ex-mafia" role (he got no indication of how old this note was), or a framer could still frame him in that manner.
Actually he's probably not some "ex-mafia" role else he would have mentioned it probably.
Fuck it, vote: adam
If adam turns up town, I'm not listening to any bullshit "I was insane/framed/whatever" out of wolf and voting him anyway.
Actually he's probably not some "ex-mafia" role else he would have mentioned it probably.
Fuck it, vote: adam
If adam turns up town, I'm not listening to any bullshit "I was insane/framed/whatever" out of wolf and voting him anyway.
vote count is 7 on adam btw and it takes 9 to lynch
@Wolf
Actually, what were your picks for the game? The character's personality and it's history may help us getting any possible infos of your sanity (just like Pheonix who we really doubt he would be insane/paranoid/naive).
Actually, what were your picks for the game? The character's personality and it's history may help us getting any possible infos of your sanity (just like Pheonix who we really doubt he would be insane/paranoid/naive).
He did specifically say L.A Noire so I assume that it's because that's the only game that fits his role.bmin11 wrote:
@Wolf
Actually, what were your picks for the game? The character's personality and it's history may help us getting any possible infos of your sanity (just like Pheonix who we really doubt he would be insane/paranoid/naive).
I have yet to play L.A Noire, but from my brother's descriptions of the missions: you play as a guy who is about justice and getting his man and stuff, but even if you know who the culprit is, in a few of the missions you have to tell the police chief what he wants to hear and arrest who he has personal bias against to get a good grade for the mission instead of arresting the actual culprit.
So it could go either way from what I've heard.
..so, what you're saying is, my sanity could be random? If that's the case...
...oh, god.
...oh, god.
Well, assuming that my sanity is in fact random, I'd have roughly a 50-50 chance of getting a proper verdict on someone. But even then, that's pushing it quite a bit.
Actually I didn't consider the possibility of a lyncher either. It would sort of make sense given bmin's description.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this, but if your sanity is in fact random, you are no more useful than a townie and your results should be ignored.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Well, assuming that my sanity is in fact random, I'd have roughly a 50-50 chance of getting a proper verdict on someone. But even then, that's pushing it quite a bit.
@Lybydose- who is a lyncher? I don't recall bmin accusing anyone of that.
So both of the investigations are unreliable...
Damn, we still would have a chance, but are we willing to take the risk ?
Unvote.
Damn, we still would have a chance, but are we willing to take the risk ?
Unvote.
whoops, I meant adam's description of the game character, not bminakrolsmir wrote:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this, but if your sanity is in fact random, you are no more useful than a townie and your results should be ignored.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Well, assuming that my sanity is in fact random, I'd have roughly a 50-50 chance of getting a proper verdict on someone. But even then, that's pushing it quite a bit.
@Lybydose- who is a lyncher? I don't recall bmin accusing anyone of that.
As in, the guy has to arrest a specific person that the chief has bias against rather than the actual guilty person. Would make sense for a lyncher role.
Which would make it completely random and utterly useless.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'd have roughly a 50-50 chance of getting a proper verdict on someone. But even then, that's pushing it quite a bit.
Which missions specifically?adam2046 wrote:
He did specifically say L.A Noire so I assume that it's because that's the only game that fits his role.bmin11 wrote:
@Wolf
Actually, what were your picks for the game? The character's personality and it's history may help us getting any possible infos of your sanity (just like Pheonix who we really doubt he would be insane/paranoid/naive).
I have yet to play L.A Noire, but from my brother's descriptions of the missions: you play as a guy who is about justice and getting his man and stuff, but even if you know who the culprit is, in a few of the missions you have to tell the police chief what he wants to hear and arrest who he has personal bias against to get a good grade for the mission instead of arresting the actual culprit.
So it could go either way from what I've heard.
I leafed through a few overviews (half assedly) and couldn't see those situations. (Off topic but this game's story is actually quite interesting)
Overall he just seems to be a run-of-the-mill detective.
I'd actually have to play the game to find out.Rantai wrote:
Which missions specifically?
Ask your brother, if you'd be so kind.
That's a pain, so I just checked TV Tropes.Rantai wrote:
Ask your brother, if you'd be so kind.
It seems to be in at least this one:
http://lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/The_Golden_Butterfly
http://www.gameshampoo.com/17212/noire- ... ong-person
You know what?
I'm willing to test my statement. If I really have a sanity that gives off random results, how would I know D2? It's impossible.
So, with that said:
Currently, there are a total of four different sanity that I could be:
Sane, insane, paranoid, random
If I'm truly random, then I should come up with a result that will mess up the pattern shown in the later statements.
If I'm sane, everything I search will come out correct (excluding millers and traitors..and other misleading roles).
If I'm insane, everything I search will come out backwards.
If I'm paranoid, everything I search will come out guilty.
Like I said, the only way I can tell if I have a random sanity is if I get an unusual pattern, such as the following example:
Player 3 was found mafia. Lynch result: Mafia. Sanity: Sane, paranoid, random.
Player 8 was found innocent. Lynch result: Mafia. Sanity: Insane, naive, random.
With that second result, there is NO WAY I could have gone from the first set of results to the second set of results without having a random sanity!
With that said, I'm still keeping my vote.
Yes, I'm sure everyone's gonna hate me for this. BUT I WANT TO PROVE MY SANITY!
I'm willing to test my statement. If I really have a sanity that gives off random results, how would I know D2? It's impossible.
So, with that said:
Currently, there are a total of four different sanity that I could be:
Sane, insane, paranoid, random
If I'm truly random, then I should come up with a result that will mess up the pattern shown in the later statements.
If I'm sane, everything I search will come out correct (excluding millers and traitors..and other misleading roles).
If I'm insane, everything I search will come out backwards.
If I'm paranoid, everything I search will come out guilty.
Like I said, the only way I can tell if I have a random sanity is if I get an unusual pattern, such as the following example:
Player 3 was found mafia. Lynch result: Mafia. Sanity: Sane, paranoid, random.
Player 8 was found innocent. Lynch result: Mafia. Sanity: Insane, naive, random.
With that second result, there is NO WAY I could have gone from the first set of results to the second set of results without having a random sanity!
With that said, I'm still keeping my vote.
Yes, I'm sure everyone's gonna hate me for this. BUT I WANT TO PROVE MY SANITY!
Okay, I am little bit (read: heavily) tired - but I didn't get your idea. Can you... explain it other way?
Sorry for being baka.
Sorry for being baka.
Basically, I'm using a similar method to the Mini Dethy Mafia. Doing this will be a test of whether or not my sanity is in fact random.
Ah, I think I am understanding now.
Ahh alright. It's a bit of a stretch but I can't deny it's possible.adam2046 wrote:
That's a pain, so I just checked TV Tropes.Rantai wrote:
Ask your brother, if you'd be so kind.
It seems to be in at least this one:
http://lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/The_Golden_Butterfly
http://www.gameshampoo.com/17212/noire- ... ong-person
Vote stands though, for other reasons.
:U
Prod Lilac
Last post: 7 days ago.
Prod Lilac
Last post: 7 days ago.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Wojjan (6) - adam2046, Mashley, Rolled, LadySuburu, foulcoon, LunaticMara
adam2046 (6) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, fishie, KRZY, akrolsmir, Lybydose
Not Voting (5) - Lilac, Wojjan, pieguy1372, tastelikecoke, bmin11
Prodded Lilac.
Wojjan (6) - adam2046, Mashley, Rolled, LadySuburu, foulcoon, LunaticMara
adam2046 (6) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, fishie, KRZY, akrolsmir, Lybydose
Not Voting (5) - Lilac, Wojjan, pieguy1372, tastelikecoke, bmin11
Prodded Lilac.
Hm, I am pretty sure that I unvoted but might as well...
Vote: adam2046.
Vote: adam2046.
Well, if you want things to be a little less random, then we should analyze our lynch candidates more carefully.Mashley wrote:
Which would make it completely random and utterly useless.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'd have roughly a 50-50 chance of getting a proper verdict on someone. But even then, that's pushing it quite a bit.
Like you know, "Wojjan is 30% more scummier acting than adam in page 13!" or something.
Totally-insane random cops are rarely used in games except in Dethy, because essentially they are useless and just confusing. Dethy being a game of cops, a random cop would be an interesting twist.
Also, guys, you're relying too much on meta. People can act differently under different conditions.
Am I voting adam yet? Yeah, vote: adam. If adam is maf btw, I'm not liking where that's putting Mashley.
btw Swift, your flavor confused us for a moment. You stated your target's destination. DID YOU MEAN TO TYPE YOUR TARGET DESTINATION? because judging from your role that makes a LOT more sense.
btw Swift, your flavor confused us for a moment. You stated your target's destination. DID YOU MEAN TO TYPE YOUR TARGET DESTINATION? because judging from your role that makes a LOT more sense.
Actually:
I have a hunch that this PyP is a bastard mod.
If the mod hides something, it's a bastard mod. If my sanity is truly random, it would also mean that it is a bastard mod.LadySuburu wrote:
By the way guys, there's also another killing role out there. I was targeted for a kill last night but apperently I had a one-shot bulletproof I didn't know about. I was informed of the attempt, though.
I have a hunch that this PyP is a bastard mod.
I went to the target's original location. Specifically, where he sleeps.Wojjan wrote:
Am I voting adam yet? Yeah, vote: adam. If adam is maf btw, I'm not liking where that's putting Mashley.
btw Swift, your flavor confused us for a moment. You stated your target's destination. DID YOU MEAN TO TYPE YOUR TARGET DESTINATION? because judging from your role that makes a LOT more sense.
I think that's very unlikely...Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I have a hunch that this PyP is a bastard mod.
What makes you say that? LS didn't know about the vest, and mods usually don't hide something from people unless it's a bastard mod.
If it's not a bastard mod, it's just bad, and I'm sure NH's intentions weren't to make this bad.
If it's not a bastard mod, it's just bad, and I'm sure NH's intentions weren't to make this bad.
I hope Swiftwolf learns something about reading comprehension this game.
Oh, believe me, I'm learning with every post.
Wow gosh I don't know who the mafia are.
You're such a bastard NoHItter.
You're such a bastard NoHItter.
Not that kind of bastard, Wojjan. I mean hiding parts of a role. Now, sanity, I can understand, but not random.
Vote: Adam. I'm tired of thinking other cases now 
I personally find the start of today highly suspicious. adam voted Wojjan and then Mashley popped up with a cop result on Wojjan. (This doesn't make Mashley mafia, I think it's more likely that they framed Wojjan and were just waiting for an opportunity)
I'll just vote adam2046 and if he's town we can lynch Wojjan tomorrow >.<//
I'll just vote adam2046 and if he's town we can lynch Wojjan tomorrow >.<//
Why would we want to frame him if we were town? Lynch Wojjan, seriously.pieguy1372 wrote:
(This doesn't make Mashley mafia, I think it's more likely that they framed Wojjan and were just waiting for an opportunity)
fos pieguy
Topic Starter
That was the hammer guys.
It's Night 2 now.
Will edit in the flavor later.
It's Night 2 now.
Will edit in the flavor later.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
adam2046 (9) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, fishie, KRZY, akrolsmir, Lybydose, Wojjan, bmin11, pieguy1372
Wojjan (6) - adam2046, Mashley, Rolled, LadySuburu, foulcoon, LunaticMara
Not Voting (2) - Lilac, tastelikecoke
adam2046 has been lynched.
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As Dr. Hitter was coming back from the town, he saw the group of characters fight over who to lynch.
There were two claimants of an investigative role. Both had a "guilty" on a different person.
The players were divided. Both wanted to lynch either of the guilty.
In the end, they had settled for adam2046. As he was about to be hanged though, he looked at the people voting for him.
He glanced once, then twice. A look of disappointment entered his face as he went for the noose.
adam2046 has been lynched. His alignment will be revealed the next day.
ALL ACTIONS MUST BE SENT IN 48 HOURS TIME.
adam2046 (9) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, fishie, KRZY, akrolsmir, Lybydose, Wojjan, bmin11, pieguy1372
Wojjan (6) - adam2046, Mashley, Rolled, LadySuburu, foulcoon, LunaticMara
Not Voting (2) - Lilac, tastelikecoke
adam2046 has been lynched.
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As Dr. Hitter was coming back from the town, he saw the group of characters fight over who to lynch.
There were two claimants of an investigative role. Both had a "guilty" on a different person.
The players were divided. Both wanted to lynch either of the guilty.
In the end, they had settled for adam2046. As he was about to be hanged though, he looked at the people voting for him.
He glanced once, then twice. A look of disappointment entered his face as he went for the noose.
adam2046 has been lynched. His alignment will be revealed the next day.
ALL ACTIONS MUST BE SENT IN 48 HOURS TIME.
Topic Starter
It was 3AM already, but Dr. Hitter was still wide awake doing the final calibrations on his machine.
"Oh crap. I'm still missing some parts for this machine. Need to buy some tomorrow again."
But alas, Dr. Hitter had already taken caffeine pills and could not sleep. He decided to wander around the rooms of the characters.
He entered adam2046's room. Inside, he found a lone suitcase. After forcing the lock open, he discovered a notebook detailing adam2046's escapades with the Mafia, and his plan to leave the organization.
Apparently, adam2046 was a member of the Mafia, but was planning to transfer sides. The lynch yesterday was useless.
adam2046 - Mafia - Regretful Mafia - Conditional Saulus - Lynched Day 2
Dr. Hitter, still bored (and full of caffeine), decided to go outside. He immediately noticed that the weather was foggy. He remembered that the weather forecast did say that it would be foggy for the rest of the nights of the week.
Dr. Hitter continued to walk across the outsides of the building.
He noticed that a body was hanging on top of the antenna of the facility.
Upon approaching it, he discovered that it was Swiftwolf Yellowtail.
What was more odd was that he couldn't tell how he died or what was his alignment.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail - ??? - ??? - ??? - Killed Night 2
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IT IS NOW DAY 3.
DEADLINE IS IN SEVEN DAYS.
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO LYNCH.
"Oh crap. I'm still missing some parts for this machine. Need to buy some tomorrow again."
But alas, Dr. Hitter had already taken caffeine pills and could not sleep. He decided to wander around the rooms of the characters.
He entered adam2046's room. Inside, he found a lone suitcase. After forcing the lock open, he discovered a notebook detailing adam2046's escapades with the Mafia, and his plan to leave the organization.
Apparently, adam2046 was a member of the Mafia, but was planning to transfer sides. The lynch yesterday was useless.
adam2046 - Mafia - Regretful Mafia - Conditional Saulus - Lynched Day 2
Dr. Hitter, still bored (and full of caffeine), decided to go outside. He immediately noticed that the weather was foggy. He remembered that the weather forecast did say that it would be foggy for the rest of the nights of the week.
Dr. Hitter continued to walk across the outsides of the building.
He noticed that a body was hanging on top of the antenna of the facility.
Upon approaching it, he discovered that it was Swiftwolf Yellowtail.
What was more odd was that he couldn't tell how he died or what was his alignment.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail - ??? - ??? - ??? - Killed Night 2
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IT IS NOW DAY 3.
DEADLINE IS IN SEVEN DAYS.
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO LYNCH.
get any info Mash?
Another thing - I doubt adam knew who else was in the mafia. If he did, the role would have been completely broken upon his switch to the town.
vote: pieguy
Finishing the hammer on adam to stop any further discussion. This is especially suspicious because Swiftwolf was considering a plan to determine his sanity, but had not yet unvoted himself. A hammer on adam prevents Swiftwolf from unvoting and having the bandwagon potentially swap to someone else (like Wojjan).
vote: pieguy
Finishing the hammer on adam to stop any further discussion. This is especially suspicious because Swiftwolf was considering a plan to determine his sanity, but had not yet unvoted himself. A hammer on adam prevents Swiftwolf from unvoting and having the bandwagon potentially swap to someone else (like Wojjan).
vote: Lybydose
You spent a lot of effort defending adam; your vote for him was clearly reluctant. In particular:
You spent a lot of effort defending adam; your vote for him was clearly reluctant. In particular:
adam has the habit of doing exactly what he's doing right now when he's town and a bandwagon forms on him.Anyways, I find the act of defending (versus scumhunting) to be much more suspicious, especially as you obviously weren't masons or something.
We need you, Mashley!
Mashley, results?
Why don't you make your own bloody conclusions first?
So.. What exactly can you do ?Wojjan wrote:
Blinx The Time Sweeper. One-shot timepause roleblocker. Both unused.
I only edited to make something more representable to what I mean.
Because I am a dumbass, that's why.Lilac wrote:
Why don't you make your own bloody conclusions first?
If anybody cares, I still have my eyes on Wojjan and pieguy1372.
Post something, Rantai.
What's to post?
Apart from being completely undecided now as to whether Wojjan is mafia or not. I am waiting for Mashley to post his 'result' to see where to go from there.
Also was anyone roleblocked last night?
Apart from being completely undecided now as to whether Wojjan is mafia or not. I am waiting for Mashley to post his 'result' to see where to go from there.
Also was anyone roleblocked last night?
Now we don't know if Swiftwolf Yellowtail is sane, nor if he's a cop at all.
Not sure if adam's lynch is as useless as the flavor said. The switching sides, I mean, he didn't even dash a roleclaim that he's a regretful mafia and that we could still work it out. It wouldn't also make much win-condition sense. So he doesn't win with scum? Or he wins with scum but can win with town?
Not sure if adam's lynch is as useless as the flavor said. The switching sides, I mean, he didn't even dash a roleclaim that he's a regretful mafia and that we could still work it out. It wouldn't also make much win-condition sense. So he doesn't win with scum? Or he wins with scum but can win with town?
Then again Swift did find a note saying that adam was "regretting joining the mafia" or some such. I think it's safe to assume that he was sane and a detective of sorts (makes sense for his game choice)
On the topic of knowing the other mafia, that'd be crazy for him to know who they were and be town at the same time. Somehow I doubt he knew... but that doesn't explain why he attempted the kill the other night.
On the topic of knowing the other mafia, that'd be crazy for him to know who they were and be town at the same time. Somehow I doubt he knew... but that doesn't explain why he attempted the kill the other night.
I was motivated last night so I got to make two investigations. 
Got a not guilty result on Lybydose and a guilty (!!!) result on Rantai.
Got a not guilty result on Lybydose and a guilty (!!!) result on Rantai.
Sooo that means you're an insane cop then?
Guess Wojjan was telling the truth.
Going by that then Lybydose is actually mafia, or Mashley is a liar.
Guess Wojjan was telling the truth.
Going by that then Lybydose is actually mafia, or Mashley is a liar.
Vote: Mashley until you get yourself a motivator to back it up. This entire stink reeks of "okay but now I have two results so you can lynch either one of them regardless of doubting my sanity" and with adam flipping mafia you're looking even less like a cop to me.
Dead:
12. DeathxShinigami - Super Mario Bros. - Mushroom Giver - Weak Motivator - Lynched Day 1
Uhh
Something doesn't add up at all.
12. DeathxShinigami - Super Mario Bros. - Mushroom Giver - Weak Motivator - Lynched Day 1
Uhh
Something doesn't add up at all.
lolRantai wrote:
Dead:
12. DeathxShinigami - Super Mario Bros. - Mushroom Giver - Weak Motivator - Lynched Day 1
Uhh
Something doesn't add up at all.
a shame I'm already voting mash or i'd vote mash
Quite unlikely that there would be multiple motivators but I guess that there's a chance.
Not gonna vote anyone for the time being.
Not gonna vote anyone for the time being.
Now, Mashley. Before I vote you, I will wait for another motivator to claim, just in case.
But really I highly doubt there are 2 motivators this game.
But really I highly doubt there are 2 motivators this game.
fishie wrote:
So.. What exactly can you do ?Wojjan wrote:
Blinx The Time Sweeper. One-shot timepause roleblocker. Both unused.
Um, 1 shot roleblocker, if I had to hazard a guess.
XD
XD
Hm, KRZY probably has something cool to say.
I'll wait for him too.
I'll wait for him too.
Rantai, I want Wojjan to explain it to me, just to be sure.
The both was a typo I believe we've been over this
also imo second motivator is a scumclaim waiting to happen. There is just no way you can have two motivators and a balanced setup: one of them in Touhou PYP was already so overpowered it led to like five confirmed towns.
also imo second motivator is a scumclaim waiting to happen. There is just no way you can have two motivators and a balanced setup: one of them in Touhou PYP was already so overpowered it led to like five confirmed towns.
Oh damn it Wojjan, I wanted to see if the 'second motivator' would claim so we could out another mafia :<
Oh well, Vote: Mashley
Oh well, Vote: Mashley
Completely unintentional.
It's entirely possible I got motivated by some other means. Don't ask me how, but it happened.
So Swift was clearly a sane cop- he correctly got down both the flavor and alignment of adam. I'm going to unvote, vote Mashley then.
If he flips scum, then Lybydose is probably mafia as well- based on what I said earlier about defending adam and the fact that Mashley tried to clear him.
Otherwise, we'll know that Rantai and Wojjan are scum.
If he flips scum, then Lybydose is probably mafia as well- based on what I said earlier about defending adam and the fact that Mashley tried to clear him.
Otherwise, we'll know that Rantai and Wojjan are scum.
Unless he flips cop but turns out to be insane, which is a very likely possibility.
akrolsmir wrote:
So Swift was clearly a sane cop- he correctly got down both the flavor and alignment of adam. I'm going to unvote, vote Mashley then.
If he flips scum, then Lybydose is probably mafia as well- based on what I said earlier about defending adam and the fact that Mashley tried to clear him.
Otherwise, we'll know that Rantai and Wojjan are scum.
Weren't you voting Lyby? Wouldn't you think a guilty on your lynch suggestion would be much more likely than two guilties in a row?akrolsmir wrote:
Another way Lybydose could be scum I suppose.
EBWOP: countering the "but then y arnet u voting akro?? lol" argument: I'm still totally down on Mashley lynch.
akrolsmir, your logic makes zero sense.
If I was mafia, why would I defend a "reluctant mafia who is going to leave the mafia and become town".
If Mashley turns out to be insane, how could that possibly make me mafia? That would make me TOWN.
oh and vote: Mashley cause I'm not mafia dawg
If I was mafia, why would I defend a "reluctant mafia who is going to leave the mafia and become town".
If Mashley turns out to be insane, how could that possibly make me mafia? That would make me TOWN.
oh and vote: Mashley cause I'm not mafia dawg
wait goddamnit I misread, disregard 2nd half of above post, Mashley said "not guilty"
damnit I hate that term over "innocent"
unvote
damnit I hate that term over "innocent"
unvote
Because preventing him from being lynched would mean that he stays mafia. Or you might not have known he was a saulus- I get the feeling that's not something one mafia would tell another.Lybydose wrote:
If I was mafia, why would I defend a "reluctant mafia who is going to leave the mafia and become town".
I don't understand what Wojjan's accusing me of, but my reasoning is that Mashley is likely scum, and any way he flips we're netting two mafia. (And nobody seems to agree with me about Lybydose.)
That doesn't make any sense, his condition to swap to town obviously has nothing to do with being lynched, considering he was still mafia when he died. Why would "preventing him from being lynched" stop him from converting to town?akrolsmir wrote:
Because preventing him from being lynched would mean that he stays mafia. Or you might not have known he was a saulus- I get the feeling that's not something one mafia would tell another.Lybydose wrote:
If I was mafia, why would I defend a "reluctant mafia who is going to leave the mafia and become town".
Furthermore, remember what I said at the start of the day? There is no possible way adam had access to scum chat. If he did, the game setup would be completely broken, and I highly doubt NoHItter would completely break the setup like that.
Lynching adam was clearly a bad move for the town, as it led to a "future town" dying and gave us no insight as to what the hell was going on between Wojjan and Mashley. As in, had we lynched Wojjan, we could have gained information. You're basically trying to lynch me here for being reluctant to go with a plan that was not in the town's best interests. Who's the scummy one here, is it me, or is it you?
If Mashley does end up being scum, how exactly does that give us two scum? Who's the second one, me? You realize that a mafia fake-claiming cop can pick a townie, call him out as innocent, and then lead everyone to believe he's trying to "clear scum partners" when he dies.
My point here is that for some reason you raise the possibility of Mashley being scum (and through your logic Lyby being scum by extension (not sure how that works yet)) or Mashley being a cop, and Me+Rantai being guilty and thus scum. You completely ignore the fact that Mash has two guilties in a row, and i's starting to seem pretty probable that he's an insane cop, based solely on his results.Wojjan wrote:
akrolsmir wrote:
So Swift was clearly a sane cop- he correctly got down both the flavor and alignment of adam. I'm going to unvote, vote Mashley then.
If he flips scum, then Lybydose is probably mafia as well- based on what I said earlier about defending adam and the fact that Mashley tried to clear him.
Otherwise, we'll know that Rantai and Wojjan are scum.Weren't you voting Lyby? Wouldn't you think a guilty on your lynch suggestion would be much more likely than two guilties in a row?akrolsmir wrote:
Another way Lybydose could be scum I suppose.
If that would be the case, Mash would essentially have a guilty on the person you suspect the most. Why do you assume, if Mash flips town, that Lyby has to be town and me and Rantai mafs?
Sounds like some halfhearted, preemptive distancing there.
oh another thing. You seem to know exactly what causes adam to switch over to town. Tell me, why would a townie know that?akrolsmir wrote:
Because preventing him from being lynched would mean that he stays mafia.
hint: they wouldn't
spoiler: it's called speculationLybydose wrote:
oh another thing. You seem to know exactly what causes adam to switch over to town. Tell me, why would a townie know that?akrolsmir wrote:
Because preventing him from being lynched would mean that he stays mafia.
hint: they wouldn't
That's some pretty horrible speculation. Obviously he's going to switch over to town if he remains unlynched (and you know, still living), otherwise the role would have no point.