Salvage I'd suggest you self-watch so you can confirm the doctor as town when it comes to that.
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PyP Video Game Mafia [MAFIA+SURVIVOR] - Dr. Hitter Escapes!
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VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (1) - foulcoon
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
pieguy1372 (1) - Lybydose
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Jaqennn (1) - adam2046
Wojjan (1) - bmin11
Not Voting (13) - Rantai, LunaticMara, fishie, Lilac, Salvage, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Mashley, Wojjan, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu
Clarifications:
1) You may not target yourself in regards to actions.
2) Unvoting isn't required but appreciated.
Edit: Modified clarification to be more specific.
Salvage (1) - foulcoon
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
pieguy1372 (1) - Lybydose
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Jaqennn (1) - adam2046
Wojjan (1) - bmin11
Not Voting (13) - Rantai, LunaticMara, fishie, Lilac, Salvage, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Mashley, Wojjan, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu
Clarifications:
1) You may not target yourself in regards to actions.
2) Unvoting isn't required but appreciated.
Edit: Modified clarification to be more specific.
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Edited that post cause i tought i had a vote on swift but i forgot i unvoted him.
Edited that post cause i tought i had a vote on swift but i forgot i unvoted him.
is this true for all roles, or was this in regards to voting. if you were addressing wojjan's suggestion did you just confirm salvage as spy infiltrator? lolNoHItter wrote:
Clarifications:
1) You may not target yourself.
also shut up adam. read his posts, its not like he was being attacked as an innocent. he was acting like an arrogant asshat calling people bad at mafia, and accusing multiple people with no information to go on. there is a difference between an FoS and saying "X is mafia".
Topic Starter
This is referring to all roles with applicable actions.foulcoon wrote:
is this true for all roles, or was this in regards to voting.
wow! just got back from college and you guys have had quite a talk and salvage already rolleclaim, im kinda lost now, everyone is playing agressive, but we still are on d1
hey, a roleclaim.
roleclaim: team recruiter
This is probably because I sent in Pro Evolution Soccer as my first choice. I can choose a player at night and gain day/night talking privileges with that player. If said player is scum, I die.
Basically I can target Salvage at night and see if his claims are true. If, for some reason, I end up dead the next day, you know who to vote.
roleclaim: team recruiter
This is probably because I sent in Pro Evolution Soccer as my first choice. I can choose a player at night and gain day/night talking privileges with that player. If said player is scum, I die.
Basically I can target Salvage at night and see if his claims are true. If, for some reason, I end up dead the next day, you know who to vote.
That narrows things down a bit.
unless of course if you get nightkilled!KRZY wrote:
hey, a roleclaim.
roleclaim: team recruiter
This is probably because I sent in Pro Evolution Soccer as my first choice. I can choose a player at night and gain day/night talking privileges with that player. If said player is scum, I die.
Basically I can target Salvage at night and see if his claims are true. If, for some reason, I end up dead the next day, you know who to vote.
go KRZY you're just on a roll today aren't you
..oh wow, now that I think about it, Wojjan's right.
Lurkers (bmin and Jaquennn): Thoughts on this situation?
..EBWODP:
(bmin and Jaquennn)should be
(bmin, Lybydose and Jaquennn)because even though he's not showing up, that doesn't mean he's not here.
With a potential watcher/tracker/whatever present? I think not.Wojjan wrote:
unless of course if you get nightkilled!
Don't forget about protectors!
You shouldn't pull that lurker thing against us, because Lyby and I are also playing another mafia game (PyP touhou mafia).
Nothing much to say. Salvage was being animask suspicious for the last 10 pages and KRZY's plan can turn into WIFOM quite easily.
tl;dr
KRZY's role seems almost like a cult leader lol
Nothing much to say. Salvage was being animask suspicious for the last 10 pages and KRZY's plan can turn into WIFOM quite easily.
tl;dr
KRZY's role seems almost like a cult leader lol
I'm only doing this because I don't want people to just post in one thread and seemingly ignore the other. (ie: Pretending you didn't notice this thread at all)
All of this is unlikely to lead to any positive results if there is a roleblocker.
well since there's no selfwatching, Salvage be on bmin, bmin be on slavage, doc be on salvage. Sounds good?
what?
"What" what?
I think he means KRZY.
EWBONINJA: Lyby I don't see why a roleblocker would do anything. If bmin says "yo shit didn't go through" and salvage was on him salvage has the roleblocker down. If salvage gets blocked and bmin gets killed I guess that screws shit up, but even then I don't know why maf would keep watchertracker alive and go for the mason.
I'm assuming you mean KRZY (the recruiter) and not bmin.
So KRZY recruits salvage.
Salvage watches KRZY.
Unknown doctor protects Salvage.
Roleblocker blocks Salvage.
Mafia kill KRZY.
OMG SALVAGE IS MAFIA CAUSE KRZY DIED
So KRZY recruits salvage.
Salvage watches KRZY.
Unknown doctor protects Salvage.
Roleblocker blocks Salvage.
Mafia kill KRZY.
OMG SALVAGE IS MAFIA CAUSE KRZY DIED
yep I just said that. But are we really gonna fall for that one?
Sure, because what if Salvage REALLY IS MAFIA?!?!?!?
Well whatever, I guess it's a better plan than any other though.
Well whatever, I guess it's a better plan than any other though.
That being, if Salvage really is mafia, the mafia waste their kill by killing KRZY twice to screw with death numbers.
Hell we got plenty of time, please feel free to come up with much better plans.
If Lybydose is correct, KRZY's role will be wasted.
Isn't there anything to block the actual roleblocker?
Isn't there anything to block the actual roleblocker?
You can't block a roleblocker.
I mean you'd first have to guess who he is out of all the players, and if you knew that, why not just lynch him instead?
Even if you somehow figure out who it is, roleblocks have equal priority, so he isn't actually blocked.
The best you could do is bus drive him away from the target, but that screws with other things as well.
I mean you'd first have to guess who he is out of all the players, and if you knew that, why not just lynch him instead?
Even if you somehow figure out who it is, roleblocks have equal priority, so he isn't actually blocked.
The best you could do is bus drive him away from the target, but that screws with other things as well.
Ah, right.
Also, I haven't seen Backfire in ages.
I'd advise against it. It just seems too risky to be a good idea. See touhou mafia where I had a similar role and we both ended up killed. (mainly because two blatantly lied, but that's not important)
Let me break it down for you bro. Actually, everyone should read this before saying something about "not seeing me"LunaticMara wrote:
Also, I haven't seen Backfire in ages.
I get off the computer at 10. I sleep till 7. 7:10 I go to school. I get out at 3:30. I was posting this morning till my phone died, cause I hadnt charged it. I sometimes get a chance to post at 11 or so, since my 4th hour class is computer class ^^;
bmin11 wrote:
KRZY's role seems almost like a cult leader lol
I tought of the same , but i doubt that what he did is a good move if he's really one , cause if he is there is probabbly a Deprogrammer also , and he should've claimed by now. Just an idea anyways ..
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Neighborizer
In essence, the same role as what he claimed, though from what he said I'm guessing it only allows communication with him instead of anyone in the neighborhood.
In essence, the same role as what he claimed, though from what he said I'm guessing it only allows communication with him instead of anyone in the neighborhood.
I don't know if I'm being attacked for inactivity yet, but I just finished a big test so now my time is freed up. Catching up on 15 pages now~~
a likely excuse
Yeah I don't think I am a cult leader, my role PM does not say anything about separate factions, etc. I must be a neighborizer then.
"tl;dr". Never knew someone would actually try to stretch like that with KRZY's claim >_>;;
what do you mean bmin .. i really don't get what you're sayin
t;dr = too lazy, don't read. It means "this isn't suppose to be a serious point"
i know .. i'm talking about the other part of your post.
You mean by this? I'll revise this. Around "page 7 to page you role claimed". This post was only done so I can show Yellowtail that I'm reading the thread.bmin11 wrote:
Nothing much to say. Salvage was being animask suspicious for the last 10 pages and KRZY's plan can turn into WIFOM quite easily.
editted to correct some typos
i meant : "Never knew someone would actually try to stretch like that with KRZY's claim" , but i got it now np.
I'm just posting to say that I have been following the thread and almost nothing has really popped out at me aside from my previous gut.
KRZY recruiting Salvage and Salvage watching KRZY seems good as long as there's a doctor that can protect KRZY in the case of a nightkill+roleblock. Since we don't know who that is it's highly unlikely the doctor will be roleblocked (though we have to be wary of if there is no doctor), even more so when we take Salvage watching KRZY (unless Salvage is mafia, in which case it's still rather unlikely)
In other words, it's unlikely the plan won't work iff there is a doctor. If KRZY dies, we can infer that there is no doctor, but we can't necessarily tell whether Salvage is mafia. >.<
That said, the only lead I have is Lybydose acting like the plan won't work, when it's highly likely it will (or at least it won't explode even if it doesn't really work).
KRZY recruiting Salvage and Salvage watching KRZY seems good as long as there's a doctor that can protect KRZY in the case of a nightkill+roleblock. Since we don't know who that is it's highly unlikely the doctor will be roleblocked (though we have to be wary of if there is no doctor), even more so when we take Salvage watching KRZY (unless Salvage is mafia, in which case it's still rather unlikely)
In other words, it's unlikely the plan won't work iff there is a doctor. If KRZY dies, we can infer that there is no doctor, but we can't necessarily tell whether Salvage is mafia. >.<
That said, the only lead I have is Lybydose acting like the plan won't work, when it's highly likely it will (or at least it won't explode even if it doesn't really work).
why would the doctor save KRZY if i'm the one with the aux role here .. i'm gonna die and the recruitment it's gonna go to waste.
This is getting really interesting.
A spy infiltrator and a team recruiter, eh ?
Vote: No-Lynch
Most likely I will change this vote too later on. Maybe...
I do not really have anything to add at this point. Just woke, up my mind is kinda empty.
A spy infiltrator and a team recruiter, eh ?
Vote: No-Lynch
Most likely I will change this vote too later on. Maybe...
I do not really have anything to add at this point. Just woke, up my mind is kinda empty.
vote: fishie
no lynch is the worst thing the town could do
no lynch is the worst thing the town could do
Yeah what the hell.
vote: fishie
vote: fishie
are you serious? i told you guys about fishie
vote : fishie
vote : fishie
FoS: Salvage and KRZY
Fast to bandwagon huh (and of all the people it's the two with the most attention on them >_>).
@fishie, no lynch very very rarely helps on D1. That said I get the feeling he didn't know any better (and if he did what mafia in their right mind would do such a thing?)
Fast to bandwagon huh (and of all the people it's the two with the most attention on them >_>).
@fishie, no lynch very very rarely helps on D1. That said I get the feeling he didn't know any better (and if he did what mafia in their right mind would do such a thing?)
Everything comes to WIFOM on D1 so he could've done that to seem like town cause "that's not a thing a mafia guy would do" .. i'm sticking with fishie being mafia, it's a gut but i really think he is lol.
The reasoning here is, is that, that type of voting is much harder to talk your way out of through WIFOM. If his plan was to try and wiggle his way through town's fingers with something like that he's got almost no chance.
That's the way I see it.
That's the way I see it.
This confirms my suspicion.
Vote: Salvage
Just trying to lure out some scummies, mate.
Please die now.
Vote: Salvage
Just trying to lure out some scummies, mate.
Please die now.
Well i can't see how he didn't know that no-lynch is a nice option for town neither , so in both cases the decision is like highly anti-town imo , your FoS against KRZY and me is also anti-town cause our bandwagon (who merelly got 3 votes) had all the reasons to vote an anti-town action by fishie .. i don't even care to discuss about that anyways cause it's just stupid.
You clearly haven't read the last 7 pages and the plan people came up with
Vote: Fishie
Vote: Fishie
Okay just got ninja'd by fishie, i'm surelly not taking my vote off a guy who's voting a possible townie.
I don't really get what FisHie is trying to do in here, but Salvage doesn't seem to be clean as well.
FoS FisHie & Salvage
FoS FisHie & Salvage
I also agree that no-lynch is REALLY dumb D1.
@bmin that plan could fall to bits with the presence of a roleblocker (as stated)
At this moment I'm not buying either story for now and will be going under that assumption because anyone could be lying at this stage, with a plan that is far from being able to produce a definite result.
At this moment I'm not buying either story for now and will be going under that assumption because anyone could be lying at this stage, with a plan that is far from being able to produce a definite result.
Oh yeah to add to that plan, you'd have to consider if there is a SK, no doctor, roleblocker, jailkeepers etc etc.
So many possibilities.
So many possibilities.
It's better than not having any plan at all, actually i'm cool with whatever plan we come with, the thing is that fishie is either a jester or it's just playing awfully since either he's showing himself too much as mafia or being useless as town with every post.
Then LunaticMara seems like trying to fit .. and the rest nothing out of the normal, we have time to get a better plan Rantai, so any ideas will help to build one right now, specially to confirm the already 2 roleclaims d1.
Then LunaticMara seems like trying to fit .. and the rest nothing out of the normal, we have time to get a better plan Rantai, so any ideas will help to build one right now, specially to confirm the already 2 roleclaims d1.
Without forcing other roleclaims, I can't think of any ideas that would clear either of you, which is my problem here. Neither of you would be cleared and we'll go into D2 with a bucket of WIFOM.
In my eyes Salvage is only trying to cover up for himself.
I will not change my vote now.
And I do not really appreciate you guys calling me stupid.
I will not change my vote now.
And I do not really appreciate you guys calling me stupid.
Also, I've never said that no-lynch is a good option...
so you just voted no-lynch knowing it was a bad idea, seems like a smart choice.
I'm actually pretty thin guy, so I can fit anywhere. It's really unhealthy, but OH WELL.Salvage wrote:
Then LunaticMara seems like trying to fit..
Keep in mind that FisHie is a newbie. It's not a reason to unvote, but I can guarantee you - if he could be a mafia, he wouldn't make such a risky move.
But you also have a point that he can be a jester, which really scares me.
Oh well.fishie wrote:
Just trying to lure out some scummies
Blame the new guy then, but it'd be better if you'd actually look for a mafia rather than blindly accuse someone.
You know, I tried an almost identical tactic in another game.
But keeping my vote for now.
But keeping my vote for now.
Welcome to Day 1.fishie wrote:
it'd be better if you'd actually look for a mafia rather than blindly accuse someone
Gotta get the game started somehow, right ?
The thing is, game was already started by making a plan about using KRZY and Salvage. Did you read the thread at all?
and what makes you think i'm not looking for mafia fishie? your way to do it really doesn't make sense , you do the most scummy thing doable (since u accept that no-lynch it's not a good choice) and actually think that the guys who bandwagon you are mafia, i can't really see the reason.
FYI, FisHie didn't actually play Mafia II. He was added just for the lulz.
And if you look IV, you can actually se- wait, you don't understand Finnish.
And if you look IV, you can actually se- wait, you don't understand Finnish.
I've played only played 2, Salvage, not 3.
And you are still covering up for yourself.
Proves my point.
And you are still covering up for yourself.
Proves my point.
Salvage is looking more and more like a lyncher with every post.
are you serious lyby? .. yeah it's not even worth it discussing this sort of things right now since i can't proove i'm not a lyncher other than do what already did roleclaiming.
"fishie is mafia"
"guys fishie is mafia I just know it"
*random roleclaim for no reason*
"I knew fishie was mafia I told you guys!"
"fishie you're totally mafia"
"guys fishie is mafia I just know it"
*random roleclaim for no reason*
"I knew fishie was mafia I told you guys!"
"fishie you're totally mafia"
Also, Salvage, I didn't say anything about bandwagons.
They are normal on D1, but you've been suspicious to me for quite some time now.
They are normal on D1, but you've been suspicious to me for quite some time now.
Exactly, this is what I have been thinking. He really hates FisHie for some reason. Games Salvage chose actually verifies this. They aren't Hitman, but you need to kill stuff silently in every game you mentioned.Lybydose wrote:
Salvage is looking more and more like a lyncher with every post.
And of course with this I meant Salvage mentioned.LunaticMara wrote:
in every game you mentioned.
I don't get your point, if you're accusing me of lying about my role i could also have lied about my games .. i'm not lying on anything btw, and i'm not a lyncher but as i stated before, it doesn't matter what i say cause everything could be WIFOM, that's why i'm suggesting to come up with a plan to atleast know i didn't lie about my role or one to clean KRZY , just let's get this moving.
So tell me about these games you chose then.
Who could be this Watcher/Tracker character you mentioned? I'm just curious.
Who could be this Watcher/Tracker character you mentioned? I'm just curious.
I just sent the games and recieved the role, that doesn't have a name .. it clearly says Spy Infiltrator .. so it isn't a character.
Right. Okay, fine.
Also I saw Lilac here around, but did he post at all..?
Also I saw Lilac here around, but did he post at all..?
Unvote
This Salvage guys posts make as much sense as a 7 year olds. I say he's mafia. Fishie did something stupid, but stupid =\= mafia.
Crap posts =/= scumtell.
okay now is where i give up with you guys , i'll wait for LS, Rolled, Wojjan or Lybydose to post something interesting cause it's like you prefeer to go backwards.
How cute.
Not everything is plans and schemes unfortunately. Either find a way to prove yourself and not wait for someone else to come saving you or accept the fact that you look scummy to other players.
Not everything is plans and schemes unfortunately. Either find a way to prove yourself and not wait for someone else to come saving you or accept the fact that you look scummy to other players.
and work from there*
I didin't mean that i wait for them to "come save" me, i meant that we need to talk in a more productive way, and not about non-sense stuff cause that doesn't help town like at all.
Backfire wrote:
This Salvage guys posts make as much sense as a 7 year olds. I say he's mafia. Fishie did something stupid, but stupid =\= mafia.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Crap posts =/= scumtell.
If you stopped confusing townies, we wouldn't have wasted our time >_>...
@LunaticMara
What made you think we received the character's name with the Role PM?
@LunaticMara
What made you think we received the character's name with the Role PM?
He might've.
I didn't.
I didn't.
I didn't as well
i didnt' confuse anybody but the people who just don't help at all with their post anyways bmin .. in fact we have a lead to start working on d1 because of me and KRZY and we're not in complete blindness on a lynch. LunaticMara, Swift, Backfire and fishie are just distracting town with meaningless stuff .. so i don't care if they're town or anti-town cause they act like the second one.