You're surprised by me getting angry at you trying to get me lynched with a bunch of crap with no logic behind it?Lilac wrote:
I'm actually surprised about how badly you took that...
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Really?
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I don't have anything else to say. My vote is still on animask (faceman now) for now unless he has something to say.
-Defending Wojjan D1
-Playing especially cautiously
-Having no suspect leads D2 when Kiddo was very obviously scummy and then tries to sidetrack the conversation by asking whom everyone thinks is most suspicious when it's obvious that people believe it to be Kiddo to be since he has a lot of votes on him
-Defending Wojjan D1
-Playing especially cautiously
-Having no suspect leads D2 when Kiddo was very obviously scummy and then tries to sidetrack the conversation by asking whom everyone thinks is most suspicious when it's obvious that people believe it to be Kiddo to be since he has a lot of votes on him
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
Topic Starter
Vote Count:
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
adam 2046 is at L-1!
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
adam 2046 is at L-1!
If you're actually a vanilla townie it would be a pretty big deal if you were lynched, actually. I am sort of uneasy about the only post of substance being made by faceman/animask being a role-claim vanilla town, though.0_o wrote:
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
I've already told you my logic. It's simply process of elimination. In fact, SK did a wonderful job eliminating all the suspicious players except you... and animask.adam2046 wrote:
You're surprised by me getting angry at you trying to get me lynched with a bunch of crap with no logic behind it?Lilac wrote:
I'm actually surprised about how badly you took that...
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Really?
We can lynch him next day.
why would the SK want to eliminate suspicious players?
Bragging again.Lilac wrote:
I've already told you my logic. It's simply process of elimination. In fact, SK did a wonderful job eliminating all the suspicious players except you... and animask.
We can lynch him next day.
Also suddenly animask is on your list?
Hrm straight off role claim?0_o wrote:
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
We've less than 1 day left (if I got this right). I'm starting to think you've got nothing to say...
I think Lilac was thanking the SK for doing so, even if it wasn't intentional. At least that's how I read it.Lybydose wrote:
why would the SK want to eliminate suspicious players?
animask was ALWAYS on my list.
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
Yes, I am, and he wasn't.Lilac wrote:
animask was ALWAYS on my list.
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
I went through the whole thread and you say basically nothing of importance about animask other than "ooooh he's acting differently".
I think you should try reading.Lilac wrote:
2. animask - You're different. You're trying to sound more serious and that's what ticks me off. I liked the old animask...but I'm sorry it just seems odd. I mean, a more serious animask! Wow, a lot of people have changed.
Doesn't change the fact that I still put him under the possible Mafia list..
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. He voted for me and still kept with it while he did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
And now you're just going to pretend what you just said never happened. Lovely.Lilac wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that I still put him under the possible Mafia list..
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
Say something in an attempt to make me look suspicious. Realize that I'm right. Hope people focus on something else by pretending I'm trying to nitpick.
So he's suspicious for voting you when you were acting most suspicious?Lilac wrote:
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. He voted for me and still kept with it while he did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
Also you're one to talk about doing nothing of importance mister "I didn't want to post day 1".
I find it confusing why I'm the one at L-1 and nobody is questioning Lilac...
Oh, when I meant 'he' I meant 'you'.
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
Wait no, crap...
I did mean animask... Wow, I am really out of it....
My point still stands though. Accusing me will only just hurt you.
I did mean animask... Wow, I am really out of it....
My point still stands though. Accusing me will only just hurt you.
Nothing you just said makes any sense.
Like, at all.
Let's get specific.
I do not have a role that can confirmed with information and the only way to confirm it is if we had some sort of cop role.
And now I can't even be mafia and am the serial killer?
And now I just realized something.
Foulcoon
I wont deny being overly cautious this game, because that was how I felt like playing this game, I didn't want to bandwagon because I spent a lot of time wondering if the mafia were in it and didn't feel suspicious enough of either bandwagon to warrant a vote.
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And then another post appeared while I was writing:
In what way?
Like, at all.
Let's get specific.
Lilac wrote:
Oh, when I meant 'he' I meant 'you'.
I'm just going to assume you meant the second he. And sure, change your vote if it ends up with you getting lynched.Lilac wrote:
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. You voted for me and still kept with it while you did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
What do you classify as helping myself and helping town? Getting the mafia and missing persons guy lynched is helping town, I think you are one of them, therefore I am trying to get you lynched. This is entire time all you've been trying to do is paint me as a desperate scum player clawing to get you lynched because you're soooooooooooo innocent.Lilac wrote:
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
I cannot defend myself because you have literally no bloody argument against me, all you have been spewing out is a bunch of nothing while stating that I am scum. Even foulcoon has some logic behind his vote.Lilac wrote:
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
I do not have a role that can confirmed with information and the only way to confirm it is if we had some sort of cop role.
And now I can't even be mafia and am the serial killer?
And now I just realized something.
Foulcoon
You say you doubt he's scum because he helped lynch mafia members, but a serial killer wouldn't really have any qualms about killing anyone. Also a mafia member is able to take suspicion off themselves by voting their team mates (whether via a plan or to blend in with the town effectively).foulcoon wrote:
He was on the lynch bandwagon for both mafia members that we lynched. You on the other hand, were not. In fact you've never been on any lynching bandwagon. Normally I'd commend you for that but it honestly just seems like you're playing it safe. I'm willing to bet you're the Serial Killer, if not just plain Mafia.
I wont deny being overly cautious this game, because that was how I felt like playing this game, I didn't want to bandwagon because I spent a lot of time wondering if the mafia were in it and didn't feel suspicious enough of either bandwagon to warrant a vote.
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And then another post appeared while I was writing:
The hell?Lilac wrote:
Accusing me will only just hurt you.
In what way?
Topic Starter
Final Vote Count:
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
The day was once again rather queit and it seemed that the players were focusing on one player. But the viewers started to fell different about the player in question as he kept defending himself. Some thought he was guilty, while others thought he was innocent and thought he did a good job trying to defend himself. But despite what the audience thought, the players had decided. The announcer spoke, "The players have decided on who to send home. He tried to get out of it but adam will be on the next boat off of the island. His role will be revealed shortly."
The two men once again came and grabbed adam. They asked, "You want this guy to go away?" Three players confirmed with silent nods. The men took adam to the center of the island where there was a hole in the ground. One of the men placed him in front of the hole and the other man lifted his leg and with a mighty kick sent adam into the hole, never to be seen again. The announcer spoke to the players, "Sadly you have made your first mistake. Adam was innocent and had nothing to do with anything. He simply was just trying to live as a simple townie. Now, you should all head to your rooms and think about what happened."
adam2046 - Townie Lynched D3
It is now night 3, please send all night actions within 48 hours.
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
The day was once again rather queit and it seemed that the players were focusing on one player. But the viewers started to fell different about the player in question as he kept defending himself. Some thought he was guilty, while others thought he was innocent and thought he did a good job trying to defend himself. But despite what the audience thought, the players had decided. The announcer spoke, "The players have decided on who to send home. He tried to get out of it but adam will be on the next boat off of the island. His role will be revealed shortly."
The two men once again came and grabbed adam. They asked, "You want this guy to go away?" Three players confirmed with silent nods. The men took adam to the center of the island where there was a hole in the ground. One of the men placed him in front of the hole and the other man lifted his leg and with a mighty kick sent adam into the hole, never to be seen again. The announcer spoke to the players, "Sadly you have made your first mistake. Adam was innocent and had nothing to do with anything. He simply was just trying to live as a simple townie. Now, you should all head to your rooms and think about what happened."
adam2046 - Townie Lynched D3
It is now night 3, please send all night actions within 48 hours.
Topic Starter
Ugh, I've just been out of it for hosting this since school started. I'm sorry for not being as attentive but school is getting in my way and making me forget about this.
Everyone awoke and the announcer spoke to them, "Please report to the center of the island for role call today." Everyone complied and headed to the hole that adam had been thrown into the previous evening. What was found was not pretty, a dead Lybydose was in front of everyone, with two bullet holes in his chest. A note was in the cold hand. It read, "I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!" The announcer then spoke, "It seems someone beat Lybydose to the punch, either way, he's dead now. Hm, I just noticed that there should be five of you, but only four of you are here, it appears Lilac is missing."
Lybdose - Weak Lover (Killed N3)
Lilac (Missing N3)
It is now day 4, deadline is in five days.
With 4 present, it takes 3 to lynch.
Everyone awoke and the announcer spoke to them, "Please report to the center of the island for role call today." Everyone complied and headed to the hole that adam had been thrown into the previous evening. What was found was not pretty, a dead Lybydose was in front of everyone, with two bullet holes in his chest. A note was in the cold hand. It read, "I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!" The announcer then spoke, "It seems someone beat Lybydose to the punch, either way, he's dead now. Hm, I just noticed that there should be five of you, but only four of you are here, it appears Lilac is missing."
Lybdose - Weak Lover (Killed N3)
Lilac (Missing N3)
It is now day 4, deadline is in five days.
With 4 present, it takes 3 to lynch.
Okay, there are now 4 of us remaining.
I'm assuming that 1 of us is Mafia and another is probably Anti-town (the guy who's hiding people)
I'm just wondering if Mafia wins if a town is lynched today?
Because currently, there are 3 missing people, assuming that they are all town.
Mafia wins when they control half the votes.
So basically, if we lynch town today, mafia wins.
*If we lynch anti-town, we can probably recover the missing people and have 4 town and 1 mafia (after nightkill)
Not sure what happens if we lynch Mafia
These are assuming that there's an anti-town that kidnaps people.
I'm assuming that 1 of us is Mafia and another is probably Anti-town (the guy who's hiding people)
I'm just wondering if Mafia wins if a town is lynched today?
Because currently, there are 3 missing people, assuming that they are all town.
Mafia wins when they control half the votes.
So basically, if we lynch town today, mafia wins.
*If we lynch anti-town, we can probably recover the missing people and have 4 town and 1 mafia (after nightkill)
Not sure what happens if we lynch Mafia
These are assuming that there's an anti-town that kidnaps people.
If a town is lynched and we assume both the mafia and kidnapper guy is alive... that leaves us with 3.
So any of these could happen:
Town wins because both the kidnapper and mafia targeted each other.
Mafia wins because the kidnapper and the townie get killed/kidnapped respectively.
Kidnapper and mafia win because they both target the townie.
However you bring up a good point about people coming back. Assuming it works that way the only way town would lose on a mislynch is via the 3rd scenario. But I have no idea how the kidnapper works, I'm going to assume the worst and guess that they don't come back.
I'm at a loss on how to approach this, the only lead I have is my suspicion of Q.
So any of these could happen:
Town wins because both the kidnapper and mafia targeted each other.
Mafia wins because the kidnapper and the townie get killed/kidnapped respectively.
Kidnapper and mafia win because they both target the townie.
However you bring up a good point about people coming back. Assuming it works that way the only way town would lose on a mislynch is via the 3rd scenario. But I have no idea how the kidnapper works, I'm going to assume the worst and guess that they don't come back.
I'm at a loss on how to approach this, the only lead I have is my suspicion of Q.
I want to hear from faceman and foulcoon, they seem to be too quiet.
LOL what a hypocrite. Sorry for sleeping sir.Quaraezha wrote:
I want to hear from faceman and foulcoon, they seem to be too quiet.
I have to go to school so I'll post later.
foulcoon wrote:
Sorry for sleeping sir.
I have to go to school so I'll post later.
aaaaand class ended super early because it was the first day.
So OK, I dunno about you guys but I've been considering the "kidnapper" to be a serial killer/janitor. If this is the case, then, as crazy as this might sound, the only way for the town to win is if neither the mafia nor SK is lynched today. Here are the scenarios:
1. Mafia is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 SK
D5: 1 townie + 1 SK
SK win = 100%
2. SK is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia
D5: 1 townie + 1 mafia
Mafia win = 100%
3. Townie is lynched
N4: 1 townie + 1 mafia + 1 SK
Assuming random kills, the possible outcomes are as follows:
SK kills townie, mafia kills townie - mafia + SK win
SK kills townie, mafia kills SK - mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie - SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK - town win
Town win = 25%
4. No lynch
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia + 1 SK
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie A | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie B | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie A, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie A | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie B | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie B, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie A | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie B | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK | town win
Town win = 11% (not counting the the D5 scenarios)
For the D5 situations:
Townie lynch = SK + mafia win
Mafia lynch = SK win
SK lynch = mafia win
No lynch = (see scenario 3.)
So it seems to me that the best chance the town has of winning is if a townie is lynched today. I'll volunteer to be the lynchee if you guys are ok with this.
So OK, I dunno about you guys but I've been considering the "kidnapper" to be a serial killer/janitor. If this is the case, then, as crazy as this might sound, the only way for the town to win is if neither the mafia nor SK is lynched today. Here are the scenarios:
1. Mafia is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 SK
D5: 1 townie + 1 SK
SK win = 100%
2. SK is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia
D5: 1 townie + 1 mafia
Mafia win = 100%
3. Townie is lynched
N4: 1 townie + 1 mafia + 1 SK
Assuming random kills, the possible outcomes are as follows:
SK kills townie, mafia kills townie - mafia + SK win
SK kills townie, mafia kills SK - mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie - SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK - town win
Town win = 25%
4. No lynch
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia + 1 SK
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie A | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie B | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie A, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie A | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie B | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie B, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie A | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie B | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK | town win
Town win = 11% (not counting the the D5 scenarios)
For the D5 situations:
Townie lynch = SK + mafia win
Mafia lynch = SK win
SK lynch = mafia win
No lynch = (see scenario 3.)
So it seems to me that the best chance the town has of winning is if a townie is lynched today. I'll volunteer to be the lynchee if you guys are ok with this.
Hmm... I just realized there's also the possibility that Lilac was scum and we only have 3 townies + SK.. in this case a no lynch would be our best scenario as we have better odds with 2 townies + SK...
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Actually, based on voting patterns D1, particularly being attacked by both Wojjan and Kiddo, I am leaning towards Lilac being pro-town. Thus I still support my initial idea.
Oh wow, I didn't realise the situation was that bad...
What if Lilac was the mafia member?
A town lynch would shoot town in the foot. A no lynch would be better, but we have no way to tell.
Though it does give the best chance if the mafia wasn't killed.
Rargh the possibilities.
What if Lilac was the mafia member?
A town lynch would shoot town in the foot. A no lynch would be better, but we have no way to tell.
Though it does give the best chance if the mafia wasn't killed.
Rargh the possibilities.
You ninja, got there before me.
Triple post.0_o wrote:
Actually, based on voting patterns D1, particularly being attacked by both Wojjan and Kiddo, I am leaning towards Lilac being pro-town. Thus I still support my initial idea.
Then again Kiddo was attacked by Lilac and Wojjan D1 too, so I think that's not much to work on.
But that's assuming that the anti-town permanently kills people.
At this situation, they're just hiding.
But then again, they might as well be dead if the anti-town is still alive.
At this situation, they're just hiding.
But then again, they might as well be dead if the anti-town is still alive.
If they do come back then a no lynch is best for sure because if it's wrong town still has a chance opposed to a correct lynch with the wrong assumption.
Starting to lean no lynch... do we have any other ideas?
Starting to lean no lynch... do we have any other ideas?
But then again, what if the Mafia is the one hiding people?
It's essentially the same situation isn't it?
Both anti-town, one is killing, one is hiding.
---- Be back in the morning.
Both anti-town, one is killing, one is hiding.
---- Be back in the morning.
It's been 3 days since the first missing person; I'm pretty sure it's safe to say they aren't coming back.
Sorry I haven't posted, didn't have wifi available until now.
I'm inclined to believe facemans claim. I think a no lynch is a bad idea though. I also really don't feel comfortable lynching faceman in a 25% chance to win siutation.
Honest opinion? The mafia is probably Q as he bandwagoned and was lurking the whole game. He didn't get active in dicussion until both other mafia members were lynched.
I'm inclined to believe facemans claim. I think a no lynch is a bad idea though. I also really don't feel comfortable lynching faceman in a 25% chance to win siutation.
Honest opinion? The mafia is probably Q as he bandwagoned and was lurking the whole game. He didn't get active in dicussion until both other mafia members were lynched.
On the other hand, I think he voted for both mafia lynches (on my phone and too lazy to check) so he's either a really smart mafia and asshole teammate, or a pro-town role.
Triple posttttt
I have like 5 hours til next class so expect me to check this frequently, but I'm going to eat now~
I have like 5 hours til next class so expect me to check this frequently, but I'm going to eat now~
Here's the thing though, the only person we should be deciding if they are mafia or not is Lilac:
If he was the final scum, then a no-lynch is the town's best shot.
If he was pro-town, then our best bet is to lynch me.
I'm gonna go reread Lilac's posts to get a better read on him...
If he was the final scum, then a no-lynch is the town's best shot.
If he was pro-town, then our best bet is to lynch me.
I'm gonna go reread Lilac's posts to get a better read on him...
Alright yeah, unless the mafia agreed to sacrifice eachother before the game started I really don't think Lilac is scum; there was just too much conflict with Wojjan and Kiddo.
While it's true that Wojjan attacked Kiddo once at the beginning of the game, he brushed it off shortly afterwards saying it was to get a reaction.
And yeah they could have been distancing, but at the beginning of Day 2 when the mafia was already down a member AND there was a potential serial killer, Lilac went straight for Kiddo. I don't know about you, but if I were mafia in that situation I would have tried to dig my partner out of that hole at least little bit.
While it's true that Wojjan attacked Kiddo once at the beginning of the game, he brushed it off shortly afterwards saying it was to get a reaction.
And yeah they could have been distancing, but at the beginning of Day 2 when the mafia was already down a member AND there was a potential serial killer, Lilac went straight for Kiddo. I don't know about you, but if I were mafia in that situation I would have tried to dig my partner out of that hole at least little bit.
The more I think about it, the more I believe that Rantai is the most likely candidate to be mafia.
Roleclaim: 1 shot Jailkeeper
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
Incidentally no one was shot that night. But that could have been from LS blocking the kill too (assuming that doctor role was not bogus).
I guess it's up to you to believe me or not, but that's all I've got. If you do, I'll follow the no lynch, if not I'll follow the 0_o lynch.
Just for note: I still think Lilac was the last mafia (my biggest gripe still being the statements he gave 1st day). Giving him the benefit of the doubt beforehand was a mistake on my part.
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
Incidentally no one was shot that night. But that could have been from LS blocking the kill too (assuming that doctor role was not bogus).
I guess it's up to you to believe me or not, but that's all I've got. If you do, I'll follow the no lynch, if not I'll follow the 0_o lynch.
Just for note: I still think Lilac was the last mafia (my biggest gripe still being the statements he gave 1st day). Giving him the benefit of the doubt beforehand was a mistake on my part.
I was thinking that what if the last mafia was already hidden
and then I realized that if that were the case, it would be Lilac since only Mafia can Nightkill and one was NK'd last night.
So yeah, if Lilac was the last Mafia member that makes it 3 town vs 1 anti-town.
If we're gonna lynch faceman, assuming that he is town, will lead to a 1 town vs 1 anti-town, so town loses.
But then again, there's still a possibility that the last mafia is still among us.
Also, what's a Sheriff/Weak Lover/Jailkeeper?
and then I realized that if that were the case, it would be Lilac since only Mafia can Nightkill and one was NK'd last night.
So yeah, if Lilac was the last Mafia member that makes it 3 town vs 1 anti-town.
If we're gonna lynch faceman, assuming that he is town, will lead to a 1 town vs 1 anti-town, so town loses.
But then again, there's still a possibility that the last mafia is still among us.
Also, what's a Sheriff/Weak Lover/Jailkeeper?
I asked about Sheriff, I was told it's basically a renamed cop.
Weak lover? I honestly have no idea. I am guessing a normal lover that doesn't die if their partner dies? But if they died the other lover dies.
Jailkeeper is a doctor and roleblocker in the same action. (ie they will protect and roleblock the same target)
Weak lover? I honestly have no idea. I am guessing a normal lover that doesn't die if their partner dies? But if they died the other lover dies.
Jailkeeper is a doctor and roleblocker in the same action. (ie they will protect and roleblock the same target)
So wait, then shouldn't there be another Lover?
If there is, he/she is probably hidden. I dunno.
If there is, he/she is probably hidden. I dunno.
My guess is hidden (assuming my definition is right)
Ie weak lover didn't die when his lover was kidnapped.
Ie weak lover didn't die when his lover was kidnapped.
Well according the the wiki, the Weak modifier makes it so the player dies if they target a mafia role. This doesn't really make sense for a lover though, as no selections or night actions are usually involved...
But remember what the story said:
But remember what the story said:
"I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!"To me it seems like his lover went "missing." It's possible that going missing doesn't trigger the lover suicide, but it's also possible that Lilac was his lover.
Can a Mafia Goon be a Lover at the same time?
It is a possibility.
It is a possibility.
Yeah a goon can be a lover. I think in another game, Two was a lover and naptime died with him (Mafia/town respectively)
I was not roleblocked on night 2.Rantai wrote:
Roleclaim: 1 shot Jailkeeper
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
HoS: Rantai
>:D
And I think I just figured out who our SK is. Damn I could've sworn it was Q but apparently not.
And I think I just figured out who our SK is. Damn I could've sworn it was Q but apparently not.
aaand I'm confused.
I take it from the ">:D" that you were lying about the jailkeeper thing, right?
I take it from the ">:D" that you were lying about the jailkeeper thing, right?
Yeah, I don't actually have anything special 
Time to stir the pot 
Truth is I -- AM -- the "SK" you guys are referring to (aka kidnapper).
Roleclaim: Contract Killer
My role basically states that I have to eliminate 3 people by games end. These 3 people were Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu. When I kill someone, I hide their body and learn their role.
Before you vote me or tell me I'm stupid hear me out here. Since I had already eliminated all my targets by day 3, I asked the mod a question. I asked if I only win as last man standing, or if I could win with town or mafia. The mod responded that I was able to win after my 3 targets were dead, and any other faction got their win condition.
Truth is, I'm really hoping to win with town as mafia was already down 2 members at this point, and I was positive that there's only 1 mafia member left.
akrolsmir was a Strong Lover (I actually thought he was lovers with Two and that's how he died on Night 1)
LadySuburu was the Doctor (but we all pretty much knew that)
Lilac was a townie. I actually greatly regret killing him. I just didn't like the way that he was talking, and it just made him seem suspicious. I sent it with about an hour left in the night so it was rushed and I didn't check the voting history. Had I checked this, I would have killed Rantai, but I'm actually not so sure hes mafia either anymore.
This reason I'm telling you guys this is to keep you from lynching 0_o if we truly believe he is town. I am having second thoughts though, as Lilac is confirmed townie (to me at least) and I'm not so sure there would be 2 regular townies in a 12 person game with 4 anti-town players. A no lynch also seems like a very bad idea to me. Another reason I posted this was to discount any possibly theories you guys had about the missing players coming back from hiding. I can assure you they are dead.
I guess the other reason I'm posting this is to guarantee myself immunity. I think you'll find it hard for me to bullshit this, and you guys all know that if you lynch me today that town will ultimately lose (next day will be 1 mafia 1 town).
NOW - I would really like to hear Rantai's roleclaim. If Rantai claims townie then I'm going to find it really hard to believe that there were 3 vanilla townies in a 12 person game...
Truth is I -- AM -- the "SK" you guys are referring to (aka kidnapper).
Roleclaim: Contract Killer
My role basically states that I have to eliminate 3 people by games end. These 3 people were Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu. When I kill someone, I hide their body and learn their role.
Before you vote me or tell me I'm stupid hear me out here. Since I had already eliminated all my targets by day 3, I asked the mod a question. I asked if I only win as last man standing, or if I could win with town or mafia. The mod responded that I was able to win after my 3 targets were dead, and any other faction got their win condition.
Truth is, I'm really hoping to win with town as mafia was already down 2 members at this point, and I was positive that there's only 1 mafia member left.
akrolsmir was a Strong Lover (I actually thought he was lovers with Two and that's how he died on Night 1)
LadySuburu was the Doctor (but we all pretty much knew that)
Lilac was a townie. I actually greatly regret killing him. I just didn't like the way that he was talking, and it just made him seem suspicious. I sent it with about an hour left in the night so it was rushed and I didn't check the voting history. Had I checked this, I would have killed Rantai, but I'm actually not so sure hes mafia either anymore.
This reason I'm telling you guys this is to keep you from lynching 0_o if we truly believe he is town. I am having second thoughts though, as Lilac is confirmed townie (to me at least) and I'm not so sure there would be 2 regular townies in a 12 person game with 4 anti-town players. A no lynch also seems like a very bad idea to me. Another reason I posted this was to discount any possibly theories you guys had about the missing players coming back from hiding. I can assure you they are dead.
I guess the other reason I'm posting this is to guarantee myself immunity. I think you'll find it hard for me to bullshit this, and you guys all know that if you lynch me today that town will ultimately lose (next day will be 1 mafia 1 town).
NOW - I would really like to hear Rantai's roleclaim. If Rantai claims townie then I'm going to find it really hard to believe that there were 3 vanilla townies in a 12 person game...
So if we lynch Mafia today, will you hide/kill somebody tonight?
Or does the game end and town (plus you) wins?
Or does the game end and town (plus you) wins?
If we lynch mafia today, then (according to him) it's a town/killer win.Quaraezha wrote:
So if we lynch Mafia today, will you hide/kill somebody tonight?
Well I'm glad I was able to turn my nothing into a reveal. Sorry to disappoint but I'm just a vanilla.
That looks like either a legit roleclaim or a very elaborate lie. It all fits perfectly though... I'll believe it.
The part I don't believe though is you have won, because you didn't personally eliminate Wojjan. If I were to hazard a guess, you can only win as a regular serial killer and looking for the guaranteed self win.
That looks like either a legit roleclaim or a very elaborate lie. It all fits perfectly though... I'll believe it.
The part I don't believe though is you have won, because you didn't personally eliminate Wojjan. If I were to hazard a guess, you can only win as a regular serial killer and looking for the guaranteed self win.
Alright.
So basically, it's safe to assume that:
2 town, 1 killer and 1 mafia
Town wins if Mafia is lynched
Is there still a possibility that town can still win if Town is lynched today?
Also, now we I know that foulcoon is killer, faceman is most likely to be townie.
I know I'm townie so
Vote: Rantai
So basically, it's safe to assume that:
2 town, 1 killer and 1 mafia
Town wins if Mafia is lynched
Is there still a possibility that town can still win if Town is lynched today?
Also, now we I know that foulcoon is killer, faceman is most likely to be townie.
I know I'm townie so
Vote: Rantai
How suspicious.
Vote: Quaraezha
I'll also agree that 0_o is most probably town leaving just you left, I know what I am (read:above).
Vote: Quaraezha
I'll also agree that 0_o is most probably town leaving just you left, I know what I am (read:above).
Wow I guess hitting submit early is something I can't avoid.
*Nothing else to work on and at least if I was wrong about foulcoon this is the better option.
*Nothing else to work on and at least if I was wrong about foulcoon this is the better option.
I don't think I can ever be a smart mafia and lynch my teammates.foulcoon wrote:
On the other hand, I think Q voted for both mafia lynches (on my phone and too lazy to check) so he's either a really smart mafia and asshole teammate, or a pro-town role.
I'll be back in a few hours. Just incase you wanted me to say something later on.
Actually you know what, before I leave - wifom wifom wifom.
Honestly I have no idea what you're capable of.
Honestly I have no idea what you're capable of.
Topic Starter
The day has been extended by one day due to site being down.
Silly data center.
Rantai, could you explain how foulcoon's reaction to your jailkeeper claim made you think he was the SK? I still haven't been able to figure that out...
Everyone else claimed town and I said that I wasn't roleblocked. That means I admitted that I had a role with a night action, which would be a massive mafia slip-up. I assume that he thought I was the SK because no mafia member in their right mind would admit to that. I had no problem saying this because I have nothing to hide, and my role permits me to win with either town or mafia.
At the time I believed we had no aux roles left considering our cop and doctor was dead (lover was a surprise), that was going by the standard set ups I had seen before (I think it was like 2-3 aux roles and the rest vanilla). So I false claimed to see what foulcoon was going to say because I knew I was vanilla, I was certain you were vanilla leaving just Q or foulcoon left for the SK position (I thought Lilac was mafia). foulcoon confirmed him as the SK as he bluntly stated he wasn't role blocked making me think he wasn't lying, meaning he had to be the only active role left (SK).
On another note, I'm starting to believe Rantai is a townie, because the mafia member would have no reason to out me as the Contract Killer because nobody will vote for me now. Voting for me guarantees a mafia win.
I also am inclined to believe that 0_o is town because he was willing to sacrifice himself for town to win. That's either a bold claim to keep suspicion off, or a town claim with great logic.
Even if we lynch a town today, its still possible for town to win, or at least for me to win.
Vote: Quaraezha
I also am inclined to believe that 0_o is town because he was willing to sacrifice himself for town to win. That's either a bold claim to keep suspicion off, or a town claim with great logic.
Even if we lynch a town today, its still possible for town to win, or at least for me to win.
Vote: Quaraezha
Be back in 4 hours.
And I'm back for anyone that cares.
I've been thinking. foulcoon you win with town correct? Reading over your posts you seem to win with them even when dead (as long as your kill quota is filled). I am still kind of wary of that. What I propose is we no lynch.
Let's take a dive into the possibilities -
What I believe will happen is we lynch Q, he turns out mafia. There is just the SK and 2 town left. If you are telling the truth about your town win condition we all win, if you're a lying scumbag I mean this with as much love as possible we've just shot ourselves in the foot.
We no lynch. SK and mafia kill each other, 2 townies left - all but the mafia wins if you are telling the truth. If not we win.
As I see it there is much less risk of us losing through the no lynch, as it covers us if you really are lying.
I might be missing something, thoughts?
I've been thinking. foulcoon you win with town correct? Reading over your posts you seem to win with them even when dead (as long as your kill quota is filled). I am still kind of wary of that. What I propose is we no lynch.
Let's take a dive into the possibilities -
What I believe will happen is we lynch Q, he turns out mafia. There is just the SK and 2 town left. If you are telling the truth about your town win condition we all win, if you're a lying scumbag I mean this with as much love as possible we've just shot ourselves in the foot.
We no lynch. SK and mafia kill each other, 2 townies left - all but the mafia wins if you are telling the truth. If not we win.
As I see it there is much less risk of us losing through the no lynch, as it covers us if you really are lying.
I might be missing something, thoughts?
We can only hope that SK and Mafia kills each other if we no lynch
We can only hope that SK doesn't kill anybody at night if we lynch Mafia
We can only hope that SK doesn't kill anybody at night if we lynch Mafia
Let me clear up some misconceptions.
I do not win unless I am alive at endgame.
The company does not care how my targets die or even if I am the one who killed them, as long as they die.
I can with with mafia, or town.
I win when any side wins.
And for the finale: We don't know 100% that Q is the mafia, so a nolynch might fuck us anyways.
I do not win unless I am alive at endgame.
The company does not care how my targets die or even if I am the one who killed them, as long as they die.
I can with with mafia, or town.
I win when any side wins.
And for the finale: We don't know 100% that Q is the mafia, so a nolynch might fuck us anyways.
Ahh ok I guess I misunderstood, scratch that then.
Er, that assumption, that is.
Ugh alright fine, I can't see a better alternative. I just hope you're not lying about winning with town or I'll be raging. (Hypothetically speaking)
You know what, let's just do this.
Vote Quar.
If he's town, then it's up to you two to decide who loses
And foul, if you're lying about your win condition then screw you <3
Vote Quar.
If he's town, then it's up to you two to decide who loses
And foul, if you're lying about your win condition then screw you <3
Actually I'll be even more rage if 0_o isn't town.
Oh well that's that, let's see what rust has to say.
Oh well that's that, let's see what rust has to say.
Bleh, you might as well plan ahead 'cause I really am Vanilla Townie.
And if faceman really was the Mafia and used reverse reverse psychology or whatever.
Then well played.
And if faceman really was the Mafia and used reverse reverse psychology or whatever.
Then well played.
Topic Starter
Final Vote Count:
Quaraezha (3) - 0_o Rantai Foulcoon
Rantai (1) - Quaraezha
The show was down to the last few contestants, and viewers were wondering what was going to happen. The sudden reveal that foulcoon was secretly "sending other players home" was quite interesting but it did leave a bad taste for some of the viewers. But after the reveal the players decided to not bother with him and set their sights on another player. The announcer spoke, "Quaraezha is being sent home tonight, and it almost unanimous. We appreciate the time he took into the game."
What actually transpired: The men from before came, however they looked rather weary and tired of the game. Instead of grabbing Quaraezha and taking him to his death, one just took a simple handgun from his pocket and shot Quaraezha in the right temple. The announcer spoke to the players, "It's a shame really, you started off rather well, getting two of the mafia with ease. But now you've lynched two people who had nothing up their sleeves. Quaraezha was just another townie, and you ended his life prematurely."
Quaraezha - Townie (Lynched D4)
It is now night, please send all night actions within in 48 hours. If all actions are received by that time, the day will start.
Quaraezha (3) - 0_o Rantai Foulcoon
Rantai (1) - Quaraezha
The show was down to the last few contestants, and viewers were wondering what was going to happen. The sudden reveal that foulcoon was secretly "sending other players home" was quite interesting but it did leave a bad taste for some of the viewers. But after the reveal the players decided to not bother with him and set their sights on another player. The announcer spoke, "Quaraezha is being sent home tonight, and it almost unanimous. We appreciate the time he took into the game."
What actually transpired: The men from before came, however they looked rather weary and tired of the game. Instead of grabbing Quaraezha and taking him to his death, one just took a simple handgun from his pocket and shot Quaraezha in the right temple. The announcer spoke to the players, "It's a shame really, you started off rather well, getting two of the mafia with ease. But now you've lynched two people who had nothing up their sleeves. Quaraezha was just another townie, and you ended his life prematurely."
Quaraezha - Townie (Lynched D4)
It is now night, please send all night actions within in 48 hours. If all actions are received by that time, the day will start.
Topic Starter
Millions crowded around TVs as the season finale of The Mafia had come. They all wanted to see what was going to happen over the night and how the game would end. The announcer spoke to the viewers,"In this special episode of The Mafia we are going to recreate what would've transpired during the evening for the players, if the game were real." Although unknown to the viewers, they were being shown what exactly had happened, with the faces blurred out so they couldn't be recognized.
foulcoon was walking towards Rantai's room with a knife in his hand, his intent was to kill him so he could get out. But Rantai had his own plans, and he was heading to foulcoon's with a gun in his hand. The two stopped in the plaza and hid behind the fountain on opposite ends to plan out exactly how they would execute their murder. Rantai finished his plan first and continued on to foulcoon's room. However foulcoon saw him pass by and took the chance to cover Rantai's mouth and stab him in the back at the same time. Rantai however, had good reflexes, and managed to aim his gun behind him and shoot his assailant. The two then fell dead.
In the morning only one person awoke and arrived for role call. It was 0_o. He found the two bodies in the plaza, and decided to check foulcoon's claim that he was making people disappear for a company. He went through his pockets and found a list of people. "Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu" were all on the list and crossed off. Lilac appeared to be added to list by foulcoon himself. The announcer than spoke to the lone winner, "By the book this is a town win, but it's not a very good town win as all your fellow friends are dead. But regardless, you have won and you shall be getting the prize money and the like. This was a very exciting game to say the least though, we didn't even know there would be someone killing others just for more money. For the record, we made foulcoon just a normal town, but I'm assuming he wouldn't care about the prize money here since I'm sure he would've gotten a fortune for silencing those three. But that's enough out of me, your boat home is ready, you may leave when you wish."
Rantai - Mafia Goon (Killed N4)
foucoon - Contract Killer (Killed N4)
Town Wins!
Next post will have various info.
foulcoon was walking towards Rantai's room with a knife in his hand, his intent was to kill him so he could get out. But Rantai had his own plans, and he was heading to foulcoon's with a gun in his hand. The two stopped in the plaza and hid behind the fountain on opposite ends to plan out exactly how they would execute their murder. Rantai finished his plan first and continued on to foulcoon's room. However foulcoon saw him pass by and took the chance to cover Rantai's mouth and stab him in the back at the same time. Rantai however, had good reflexes, and managed to aim his gun behind him and shoot his assailant. The two then fell dead.
In the morning only one person awoke and arrived for role call. It was 0_o. He found the two bodies in the plaza, and decided to check foulcoon's claim that he was making people disappear for a company. He went through his pockets and found a list of people. "Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu" were all on the list and crossed off. Lilac appeared to be added to list by foulcoon himself. The announcer than spoke to the lone winner, "By the book this is a town win, but it's not a very good town win as all your fellow friends are dead. But regardless, you have won and you shall be getting the prize money and the like. This was a very exciting game to say the least though, we didn't even know there would be someone killing others just for more money. For the record, we made foulcoon just a normal town, but I'm assuming he wouldn't care about the prize money here since I'm sure he would've gotten a fortune for silencing those three. But that's enough out of me, your boat home is ready, you may leave when you wish."
Rantai - Mafia Goon (Killed N4)
foucoon - Contract Killer (Killed N4)
Town Wins!
Next post will have various info.
Cool, I was wrong about what would happen the last night. Both Foul and Rantai did figure eachother out finally and allowed us the win. Yay.
Rantai, next time don't claim Mafia on the last day when caught. I'm extremely suprised you weren't lynched.
Edit: In case you don't know what I'm talking about:
Though really, it was the fake claim and the face. I am serious about the face.
Rantai, next time don't claim Mafia on the last day when caught. I'm extremely suprised you weren't lynched.
Edit: In case you don't know what I'm talking about:
The false claim + The face (Which is basically admitting), + The statement about figuring out who the SK is. Although it is possible for someone in the town to figure out that's what foul was refering to (before the claim), they also could've guessed that foul had some sort of power role.Rantai wrote:
>:D
And I think I just figured out who our SK is. Damn I could've sworn it was Q but apparently not.
Though really, it was the fake claim and the face. I am serious about the face.
Topic Starter
I got to get to school so the info post will have to wait. If the mafia and dead players want to share links to their quicktopics, I'm fine with that.
Oh, I should mention to enter the dead players chat at your own risk. Any offense taken is entirely your fault. (Not that I personally said anything I'd consider offensive.)
Dead players chat.
Boom!
SPOILER
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/WNLjXkrdnRBx
Dead players chat.
Boom!
Well actually, to be honest, I thought everyone already knew I was mafia before my claim. I am equally amazed I wasn't lynched that day.
But hey, that could have gone a lot worse.
Oh I already think I know what I'm going to see in that quicktopic.
But hey, that could have gone a lot worse.
Oh I already think I know what I'm going to see in that quicktopic.
I'd ask for the quicktopic link to mafia chat, but I'm not sure if Wojj/Kiddo want it shared.Rantai wrote:
Well actually, to be honest, I thought everyone already knew I was mafia before my claim. I am equally amazed I wasn't lynched that day.
But hey, that could have gone a lot worse.
Oh I already think I know what I'm going to see in that quicktopic.
Don't worry about it this time, I did 90% of the talking (even talking to myself ;_;). Wojjan didn't even get to say a word.
http://quicktopic.com/46/H/Y4iNsybVPmY6k
http://quicktopic.com/46/H/Y4iNsybVPmY6k
Cool, I did protect foul N2. Seems like I predicted the NK correctly.Rantai wrote:
Don't worry about it this time, I did 90% of the talking (even talking to myself ;_;). Wojjan didn't even get to say a word.
http://quicktopic.com/46/H/Y4iNsybVPmY6k
Yeah, actually if you hadn't done that I suspect things would've been a lot smoother for me D:
Oh and about the face, how does it signify I'm mafia? I use it to show I'm joking or like a reaction from you, it's the way I express myself in that department.
Edit: Oh yeah the reason I claimed was because I thought foulcoon was town and wanted to use my failure of a NK as a last ditch defense. When that backfired I was went oh %#$ and yeah you saw the results of that.
Oh and about the face, how does it signify I'm mafia? I use it to show I'm joking or like a reaction from you, it's the way I express myself in that department.
Edit: Oh yeah the reason I claimed was because I thought foulcoon was town and wanted to use my failure of a NK as a last ditch defense. When that backfired I was went oh %#$ and yeah you saw the results of that.
woo
Regarding Rantai's post, I was already under the impression that he was taking some sort of gambit since 1-shot jailkeeper was just too strange of a role. Nonetheless, I really didn't put a whole lot of effort into finding the other mafia because I really did believe that the mafia/SK would target eachother if they both survived (see the Prisoner's Dilemma].
EDIT: Well THAT, and my heart wasn't into this game as much as you guys who were in it from the beginning
Regarding Rantai's post, I was already under the impression that he was taking some sort of gambit since 1-shot jailkeeper was just too strange of a role. Nonetheless, I really didn't put a whole lot of effort into finding the other mafia because I really did believe that the mafia/SK would target eachother if they both survived (see the Prisoner's Dilemma].
EDIT: Well THAT, and my heart wasn't into this game as much as you guys who were in it from the beginning
Rantai was totally Mafia :V
On a side note, stop giving me mafia roles! XD
I think that's like 4/6 now.
I think that's like 4/6 now.
It's in combination with the false claim backfiring. Of course it might just be the way I read the emoticonRantai wrote:
Yeah, actually if you hadn't done that I suspect things would've been a lot smoother for me D:
Oh and about the face, how does it signify I'm mafia? I use it to show I'm joking or like a reaction from you, it's the way I express myself in that department.
Edit: Oh yeah the reason I claimed was because I thought foulcoon was town and wanted to use my failure of a NK as a last ditch defense. When that backfired I was went oh %#$ and yeah you saw the results of that.
>:D = Evil / Cunning Smile
= Happy normal smile
= Nobody uses this emote anymoreI only ever use >:D or related emoticons when people say things like "You're so evil." or related things to me. (I get that a lot when I RP.)
Ahh yeah I figured it would be down to interpretation, I guess I'll use more generic/neutral emoticons.
See, since I already thought he was gambitting I thought his smiley implied "Teehee, I lied! Caught you!"
Just because it's fitting, even though I don't always follow it.0_o wrote:
See, since I already thought he was gambitting I thought his smiley implied "Teehee, I lied! Caught you!"
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... _All_Liars
Oh!
I would like to know how a more experienced player would have handled that situation, before my gambit.
The more I learn, the better.
I would like to know how a more experienced player would have handled that situation, before my gambit.
The more I learn, the better.
Yeah I'm aware of that, but given the unique situation and the fact that it was Lylo, I figured a policy lynch wasn't the best choice. I was actually trying to think of some gambit I could make myself before the roleclaims, so that also made it more forgivable from my point of view.LadySuburu wrote:
Just because it's fitting, even though I don't always follow it.0_o wrote:
See, since I already thought he was gambitting I thought his smiley implied "Teehee, I lied! Caught you!"
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... _All_Liars
I also would've gambited, or waited / built a case on another player. Unfortunately 0_o had basically proven himself town at that point so the only real option would be to find and lynch the SK as mafia.Rantai wrote:
Oh!
I would like to know how a more experienced player would have handled that situation, before my gambit.
The more I learn, the better.
As for the gambit, 1-shot doctor might've been a better choice if you were going for a protection role. However, as a stand-alone ability a one-shot doctor is rarely used, so claiming maybe a one-shot doc/cop/tracker and giving false results based on people who died or who would've had no targets would've worked out.
Dunno, I can't say unless I'm in the position myself. I'm not really good at mafia (though I've been getting better apperently.)
I still dislike being mafia.
I should have stayed with my gut feeling zzzzz, TBH I was going to kill 0_o because I figured maybe Rantai would target him as well, then I realized mafia are always greedy cunts who don't want to share a win. Oh well, gj town!
P.S.
Two said:
Lilac said:
Two said (later):
gg
P.S.
Two said:
well obviously foulcoon is mafiaLOLOLOL
Lilac said:
Qua is totally SK. Watch him slowly get active.
Two said (later):
d'uhhh foulcoon is town obviously
gg