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bagnz0r
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2009年10月30日 at 0:09:09

Artist: Valve Studio Orchestra
Title: Team Fortress 2
Source: Team Fortress 2
Tags: tf2 team fortress 2 heavy medic spy soldier pyro scout demoman engineer sniper sniper valve games source engine 2007
BPM: 130
Filesize: 1605kb
Play Time: 01:08
Difficulties Available:
  1. Alice's Sandvich (4.75 stars, 126 notes)
  2. Bagno's BONK! (5 stars, 101 notes)
  3. MarioBros777's Intruder Alert! (4.4 stars, 96 notes)
Download: Valve Studio Orchestra - Team Fortress 2
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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TheManCalledNo
Notes like
00:21:83 (3), 00:25:29 (7)

01:07:52 (5)

and some similar ones seem a bit off.

I was getting a BPM closer to 131-132, with an offset of around 8000 for the first part. I'm not certain that that's right, though.

Also, you might want to throw a spinner in there somewhere.

Aside from stuff like that, it's cool. Starring.
Topic Starter
bagnz0r
I've fixed that problem with 00:21:83 (3), 00:25:29 (7). Replaced with spinner.
qlum
artist is Mike Morasky
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

qlum wrote:

artist is Mike Morasky
I've extracted that from TF2's gcfs, file was tagged with that artist.


So i assume it's valid.
DeathxShinigami
Modded in IRC.
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Modded in IRC.
Thanks DxS.
SkyE-
Modded.
matusiek3
Now it isn't fast. It's ok.
By the way, my first post here.
DeathxShinigami
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

DeathxShinigami wrote:

you should kudos star your own map since you have 3 kudosu ;o
I don't have kudosu at all, kudos system fails.
Dean
First of all, you forgot to resnap.
I don't really like the claps in this map, except at the end of combos, but that's up to you.
I feel it's not very 'pretty,' for want of a better word. Seems to lack a flow.

Ultra Easy:
Spacing seems a bit off.
The part between the breaks from 00:24 to 00:34 sounds really awkward to me. I dunno how to change it though.

Easy:
00:25:29 (1) - this seems weird, as do similar notes in this and the other difficulties. I'd extend it to make it two notes long, or something.

Hard:
Not much more to add.

Sorry if you don't like my suggestions, I'm a noob modder. You have to resnap though :) .
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Dean7599 wrote:

First of all, you forgot to resnap.
I don't really like the claps in this map, except at the end of combos, but that's up to you.
I feel it's not very 'pretty,' for want of a better word. Seems to lack a flow.

Ultra Easy:
Spacing seems a bit off.
The part between the breaks from 00:24 to 00:34 sounds really awkward to me. I dunno how to change it though.

Easy:
00:25:29 (1) - this seems weird, as do similar notes in this and the other difficulties. I'd extend it to make it two notes long, or something.

Hard:
Not much more to add.

Sorry if you don't like my suggestions, I'm a noob modder. You have to resnap though :) .
I'll fix all problems you've listed. Thanks. ;)
mrtn
use offset 8951 and resnap all notes
put the slider tickrate on 2 instead of 3

[ultra easy]
spacing is way too compact. people will get really confused and click way to fast.
00:23:692 - remove break or reinsert it
00:25:884 - ^
00:29:23 - remove break
00:37:076 - reinsert break
00:44:020 - reinsert break
00:47:923 - ^
00:59:000 - ^

[easy]
00:23:692 - reinsert break
00:37:076 - reinsert break
00:45:038 - ^
00:48:269 - ^
00:59:461 - reinsert break

[hard]
00:12:15 (5) - new combo
00:15:84 (5) - ^
00:19:53 (5) - ^
00:25:884 - reinsert break
00:36:961 - ^
00:59:461 - ^

starred
Topic Starter
bagnz0r
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
roleykatsu
Yay, this is the 10th mod I've done~....now I'm tired xD

Anyway, here you go, a mod from me.
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[Timing]

BPM --> Fine
Offset --> 9,384
Slider Tick Rate --> Either 2 or 4. 3 doesn't sound good for some maps, imo.
Slider Velocity -->1.60

Be sure to go to the Timing Setup Panel and to select "Snap to New Timing" and "Recalculate slider lengths", while making sure the dropdown is on 1/4.

[Ultra Easy]

00:08:46 (1,1) - Add a whistle along with the finish.
00:21:84 (1)[Spinner] - Extend the spinner length by one 1/4 tick.
00:25:42 (1) - Early by 1/4. Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick.
00:28:99 (1) - Apply a whistle sound.
00:45:15 (Kiai Section Starting Point) - Should be moved to 00:46:30
00:46:30 - Feels like a note is missing here; add a clap+whistle note here; new combo.
00:46:99 (2) - Take off new combo
00:46:99 (2,3) - These notes should have a clap+whistle too.
00:49:99 (1,2,3) - Should all have clap+whistle sounds. (3) should have the Finish sound removed.
00:52:76 (4,5) - Both should have whistle+finish sounds
00:55:07 (6) - Move one 1/4 tick to the right.
00:56:46 (1) - ^
00:57:49 (2,3,4) - ^ (2,3) should have Whistles. (4) Should have all sounds
Re-adjust break
01:07:07 (4,Kiai Section Starting Point) - Move both of them back by 1/4 tick

[Easy]

00:09:84 (1,2,3) - Apply whistle sound
00:12:14 (4) - Apply whistle sound throughout the silder
00:13:75 (1,2,3) - Apply whistle sound
00:17:44 (1) - ^
00:19:52 (4) - Apply whistle sound throught the slider
00:21:14 (1) - Apply clap sound
00:23:68 (Break) Its too short for a break anyway, remove it
00:25:41 (1,2) - Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick
00:28:06 (2) - Take away the whistle sound for the beginning of the slider.
00:31:29 (1,2) - Whistle here
00:32:68 (3,4) - Finish here
00:34:06 (5) - Every hitsound should be applied here
00:34:98 (1,2) - Whistle here
00:45:14 (Kiai Section Starting Point) - Move it to 00:46:29.
00:46:29 - Note missing here; add a Whistle Note; make it a new combo
00:46:98 (1) - Apply whistle sound, do not make it a new combo
00:47:68 (2,3) - Should be Whistle+Finish sounds
00:49:98 (1,2) - Should be whistle sounds
00:54:14 (8) - Remove
00:53:68 (7) - Apply whistle
00:54:48 - Whistle Note missing here
00:55:06 (9,10) - Move it one 1/4 tick to the right.
00:57:37 (3) - Should have a finish+whistle sound.
00:57:83 (4,5,6,7) - Move all one 1/4 tick to the right; (5) should have a whistle sound.
Adjust break
01:07:06 (4+Kiai Starting Point) - Move one 1/4 tick to the left
01:07:64 (Kiai Starting Point,5,6) - Move one 1/4 tick to the right

[Hard]

00:21:84 (1) - Extend length by 1/4
00:24:03 (1,2,3) - Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick.
Re-adjust Break
00:45:15 (Kiai Starting Point) - Move to 00:46:30
00:46:30 - Add a new-combo note here
00:46:76 (1) - Do not make this a new combo
01:07:07 (4, Kiai Starting Point) - Move back by one 1/4 tick

[Insane]

00:21:84 (1) - Extend length by 1/4
00:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move to the the right by one 1/4 tick
Re-adjust break
00:45:15 (Kiai Starting Point) - Move to 00:46:30 (1).
00:57:49 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move to the right by one 1/4 tick
Re-adjust break
01:07:07 (7, Kiai Starting Point) - Move back by one 1/4 tick.

You also have a considerable amount of Spacing Errors throughout most/all of the maps so please re-check those distances.

Hope my modding helped :) . Even though you have several mistakes, I will still star it, since the overall outcome of the map looks great anyway (and plus I like the song).

Starred :D
nardii
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Roley wrote:

Yay, this is the 10th mod I've done~....now I'm tired xD

Anyway, here you go, a mod from me.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Timing]

BPM --> Fine
Offset --> 9,384
Slider Tick Rate --> Either 2 or 4. 3 doesn't sound good for some maps, imo.
Slider Velocity -->1.60

Be sure to go to the Timing Setup Panel and to select "Snap to New Timing" and "Recalculate slider lengths", while making sure the dropdown is on 1/4.

[Ultra Easy]

00:08:46 (1,1) - Add a whistle along with the finish.
00:21:84 (1)[Spinner] - Extend the spinner length by one 1/4 tick.
00:25:42 (1) - Early by 1/4. Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick.
00:28:99 (1) - Apply a whistle sound.
00:45:15 (Kiai Section Starting Point) - Should be moved to 00:46:30
00:46:30 - Feels like a note is missing here; add a clap+whistle note here; new combo.
00:46:99 (2) - Take off new combo
00:46:99 (2,3) - These notes should have a clap+whistle too.
00:49:99 (1,2,3) - Should all have clap+whistle sounds. (3) should have the Finish sound removed.
00:52:76 (4,5) - Both should have whistle+finish sounds
00:55:07 (6) - Move one 1/4 tick to the right.
00:56:46 (1) - ^
00:57:49 (2,3,4) - ^ (2,3) should have Whistles. (4) Should have all sounds
Re-adjust break
01:07:07 (4,Kiai Section Starting Point) - Move both of them back by 1/4 tick

[Easy]

00:09:84 (1,2,3) - Apply whistle sound
00:12:14 (4) - Apply whistle sound throughout the silder
00:13:75 (1,2,3) - Apply whistle sound
00:17:44 (1) - ^
00:19:52 (4) - Apply whistle sound throught the slider
00:21:14 (1) - Apply clap sound
00:23:68 (Break) Its too short for a break anyway, remove it
00:25:41 (1,2) - Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick
00:28:06 (2) - Take away the whistle sound for the beginning of the slider.
00:31:29 (1,2) - Whistle here
00:32:68 (3,4) - Finish here
00:34:06 (5) - Every hitsound should be applied here
00:34:98 (1,2) - Whistle here
00:45:14 (Kiai Section Starting Point) - Move it to 00:46:29.
00:46:29 - Note missing here; add a Whistle Note; make it a new combo
00:46:98 (1) - Apply whistle sound, do not make it a new combo
00:47:68 (2,3) - Should be Whistle+Finish sounds
00:49:98 (1,2) - Should be whistle sounds
00:54:14 (8) - Remove
00:53:68 (7) - Apply whistle
00:54:48 - Whistle Note missing here
00:55:06 (9,10) - Move it one 1/4 tick to the right.
00:57:37 (3) - Should have a finish+whistle sound.
00:57:83 (4,5,6,7) - Move all one 1/4 tick to the right; (5) should have a whistle sound.
Adjust break
01:07:06 (4+Kiai Starting Point) - Move one 1/4 tick to the left
01:07:64 (Kiai Starting Point,5,6) - Move one 1/4 tick to the right

[Hard]

00:21:84 (1) - Extend length by 1/4
00:24:03 (1,2,3) - Move it to the right by one 1/4 tick.
Re-adjust Break
00:45:15 (Kiai Starting Point) - Move to 00:46:30
00:46:30 - Add a new-combo note here
00:46:76 (1) - Do not make this a new combo
01:07:07 (4, Kiai Starting Point) - Move back by one 1/4 tick

[Insane]

00:21:84 (1) - Extend length by 1/4
00:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move to the the right by one 1/4 tick
Re-adjust break
00:45:15 (Kiai Starting Point) - Move to 00:46:30 (1).
00:57:49 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move to the right by one 1/4 tick
Re-adjust break
01:07:07 (7, Kiai Starting Point) - Move back by one 1/4 tick.

You also have a considerable amount of Spacing Errors throughout most/all of the maps so please re-check those distances.

Hope my modding helped :) . Even though you have several mistakes, I will still star it, since the overall outcome of the map looks great anyway (and plus I like the song).

Starred :D
Okaaay... Thanks. :D
Lilac
Here's my difficulty, do whatever you want to it.

Download: Valve Studio Orchestra - Team Fortress 2 (BagnoGamer) [MB's Difficulty].osu
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

MarioBros777 wrote:

Here's my difficulty, do whatever you want to it.
Cool. :P
alvisto
ULTRA EASY - Lol, it really is ultra easy... =P
00:55:191 - Move 1/4 earlier
00:56:460 (1.2.3.4) - Move all 1/4 earlier

EASY
00:24:380 - Too empty
00:26:452 - ^
00:54:384 (8.9.10) - Move 1/4 earlier
00:57:845 (4,5,6,7) - Move 1/4 earlier

HARD
00:23:460 - Let spinner ends here
00:24:037 (1,2,3) - I don't know about this. Place it on blue tick sounds weird,but place it on 1/4 earlier sounds weird too, but I think the latter sounds better. You wanna try 1/8 earlier ? I try that and it sounds perfect.
00:27:730 - This definitely belongs to 1/4 earlier. Don't change the slider after that

INSANE - O_O the circle is so small !!!
00:32:230 - Sounds weird here, remove whistle ? Keep the clap
00:35:922 - Remove whistle too ?
01:05:114 - Insert a not between 1,2 3,4,5,6 ? Suits INSANE better.

Star ! ^o^
Revengexsoyah
Start
i like map :D
GbL
[Ultra Easy]

00:08:46 (1) - Remove whistle

[Easy]

00:43:99 (1) - Leave aligned with others 1,1,1
00:52:76 (5) - New combo
00:59:34 (break) - Fix break

[MB's Difficulty]

00:25:99 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Fix spacing
00:37:76 (4,5,6) - ^

[Hard]

00:52:76 (6) - New combo

[Insane]

00:33:38 (8) - New combo or fix spacing
01:05:69 (4) - ^
01:06:38 (7) - ^
01:07:07 (10) - ^
01:07:53 (11) - New combo

Star
.
Lilac
I'm completely changing this difficulty cause I had some spare time and I was bored and etc.

That and I'm changing the difficulty name to "Intruder Alert!"

Download: Valve Studio Orchestra - Team Fortress 2 (BagnoGamer) [Intruder Alert!].osu
Alice
Combo colour suggest: Blue&Red. Obviously n_n (try to do pale ones. A pale greyblue and a pale greyred just like in the game.)

I suggest you to switch ultra easy to easy and easy to normal. Even if ultra easy is really easy, Easy would do a cool normal. And there's a lot of one starred map named easy, easy diff has been created to be easy atleast luls
Ultra Easy
That's ultra easy
Anyway
Combo mod:
New combo overused??
00:27:61 (1,1,1) - I don't really think they are needed. Make them 1,2,3

Other
Use distance snap. Spacing is sometimes wrong
00:49:99 (1,2) - like here. According to the previous notes
01:04:99 (1 to the end) - inconsistent spacing. Especially 4&5. xD It's an easy but here it's more confusing..



Easy
Some weirds combos again xD..
00:21:84 (1) - finish this 1/4 later
00:52:76 (5) - new combo? n_n also isn't it a bit out of map?
01:04:99 (1 to the end) - A bit weird.. Try to do a nicer and more neat spacing, and notes are snapped a bit hm.. I mean, it sounds.. Strange?..

I don't map MB since the new one hasn't been uploaded yet n_n; But I'll do if you want

Hard
00:34:53 (7,1) - weird jump?
00:52:76 (6) - read easy. n_n

Insane
00:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I really hate this TnT I mean, the spacing.
00:46:30 (lots of things in this part) - ^ there are sometimes big jump and there thats.. Small jump? xD weird, try using distance snap sometime will look better

Overall
Weird spacing sometimes.. Try using distance snap in every difficulty except if you want to keep some jumps.
Timing sounds a bit off sometimes. Notes are sometimes snapped strangely in the timeline.

Star!

Is it ok if I do some custom skin for this? (not an entire skin but I've got some random ideas.)
Also I request to do a difficulty. I love TF². Hope you'll be ok n_n~
Topic Starter
bagnz0r
Thanks guys, I'll work on it tomorrow. :P
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Valve Studio Orchestra - Team Fortress 2 (BagnoGamer) [Alice's Sandvich].osu
Starrodkirby86
Cool song, bro~

Hm...Try +63 to all timing sections maybe? The timing is definitely off, more or less, with an early offset.

[Ultra Easy]:
00:53:69 (5) - New combo?
01:04:99 (1,2,3,4,5) - The new Kiai guidelines make these fountains a bit unrankable. :S If you want to express a sort of special effect over here, maybe a strobe would do (SBing).

Something about [Ultra Easy] makes me feel a bit unsettled. :< At times a few of the notes look randomly placed, or at least don't follow some spacing mannerisms (Such as 00:13:76 (1,2) - and 00:27:61 (1,1) - . The new combos can justify something, but it doesn't really look too all appealing or strong in itself S:)

[Easy]:
00:25:42 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move 1/4 back.
01:07:65 (5,6,7) - All of these should be snapped to a 1/1 beat. Adjust spacing as well. o;

[MB's Difficulty]:
00:23:11 (3,4) - Move 1/4 back. Perhaps make them space out a little bit more? ^^
00:25:30 (3,1) - Quite a big jump to go to. D:
00:37:76 (4) - New combo?

[Insane]:
00:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move 1/4 back.
00:31:30 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5) - While some of the spacing here IS...uh..."not right"...I do see some natural intuitiveness that shouldn't confuse the player. A solution would be having new combos or rearragning...but I don't exactly have any hatred with it.
00:57:49 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move 1/4 back.
Alice
DeathxShinigami
Boo...I'm like a day late whoops.
[Pancake]
00:09:38 (1) - Don't make this a new combo <_< just make it so it would be 1,2,3,4
00:25:88 - Just delete the short break? Not like the drain will kill you or anything.
00:29:23 - ^
00:44:34 - ^
00:48:03 - ^ *yawn*
Overall I would lower the velocity a bit even though this is just the easy diff but meh.

[Sandvich]
00:10:76 (2) - New combo here.
00:23:92 - Remove Break.
btw, make the circles smaller and lower drain a bit and lower overall diff by a couple to. :x

[MarioBros777's Intruder Alert!]
Wow nice intro to the song
00:20:92 (1,1) - Make the same combo :p
Best diff out of the set imo.

[NEED-A-DISPENSER HERE!]
Woo...least fun of the diff's well actually of the non bagno diff's are as good as the others sadly...
Lower slider tick rate as the same as MarioBros's at least.. (Will check on this diff later but nothing really standed out)
Actually nevermind I would delete this diff myself or your BONK diff since they are way to similar.

[Alice's Sandvich]
Ahh...at last.

00:15:38 (9) - New combo here and could you make the pattern not as clustery?
00:16:30 (14) - Same <3
00:16:30 (8,9,10,11,12) - Make this as a stack?
00:44:69 (1,2,3,4) - ^ same
Asdffgfhh...so many clusters... :s

[BONK!]
So you hate sliders or something? <3
Alice

DeathxShinigami wrote:

00:44:69 (1,2,3,4) - ^ same Why? I'm ok when that's double notes but a quadruplet isn't fun at all when stacked lol..
Asdffgfhh...so many clusters... :s No. I delete them in my last "update" under Bagno's request but he didn't update it, there was supposed to be out of clusters. o.o I reupload with the version I uploaded many posts ago and that was not submitted.
Here:
Download: Valve Studio Orchestra - Team Fortress 2 (BagnoGamer) [Alice's Sandvich].osu

By the way, thanks a lot for modding :D
Lilac
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