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Newbie Mafia 6 (Day 2)

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DeathxShinigami
In.
anonymous_old
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Wojjan
/splat
adam2046
^_^
Join
anonymous_old
<3^_^<3
Lilac
It's possible that I may sign up but currently it seems that I won't sign up just yet. I say give me a week (or less).

So not yet...

EDIT: I'm in.
Mashley
/in
can I be a mafia this time please?
adam2046
I support making ASH mafia this time, I'm sure he'd make it extremely challenging to find him out.
I'm sure everyone agrees.
NoHitter
I'll join.
anonymous_old
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Two_old
whatever I'll play I guess
anonymous_old
/me bitches LS.
anonymous_old
Day 2
0_o: DxS
Mario: ASH
adam: Mario
ASH: Wojjan
strager: ASH
adam: ASH
0_o: strager
adam: strager
Mario: adam
strager: strager
Mario: strager
viewtopic.php?p=220017#p220017

Vote count
strager: 0_o, adam, Mario, strager (4)
Wojjan: ASH (1)

Not voting: Everyone else

Day 1
strager: Two
Mario: ASH
adam: strager
No: ASH
DxS: Two
ASH: Two
0_o: strager
strager: adam
No: Two
adam: No
Mario: adam
Wojjan: 0_o
Two: ASH
strager: Mario
Mario: strager
No: strager
Wojjan: No
Mario: -
Mario: No
Wojjan: DxS
DxS: No
No: DxS
adam: Two
strager: No
strager: Two
0_o: DxS
Two: DxS
DxS: Two
Wojjan: -
Two: ASH
Mario: -

Lynch: Two (Vanilla Townie)

Night 1
Kill: No (Vanilla Townie)

Vote count
Two: adam, ASH, DxS, strager (4)
DxS: 0_o, Mario, No (3)
ASH: Two (1)

Not voting: Mario (1)
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

strager wrote:

My PM didn't have a forum link, though. =|
Working as intended. :P
Lilac
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Mashley
inb4 I get lynched for doing nothing.
Wojjan
/confirm
NoHitter
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DeathxShinigami
Guess I wasn't late afterall.

/confirm
0_o
confirm
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
It is now day 1.

With 9 Alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is next week at this time.
anonymous_old
Vote: Two for being the last to join.
Lilac
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adam2046
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NoHitter
LOL. Voting before confirming who's mafia or not.

Vote: ASH

For wanting to be a Mafia.
anonymous_old

NoHItter wrote:

LOL. Voting before confirming who's mafia or not.
It's called the Random Vote Stage (RVS), and it's common here in osu!Mafia.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

strager wrote:

It's called the Random Vote Stage (RVS), and it's common here in newbie mafia sytle games.
More accurate.
anonymous_old
DeathxShinigami
Vote: Two

He's not a mapper.
Mashley
vote two for having the same amount of votes as me
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

Vote: ASH

For wanting to be a Mafia.
Everyone always wants to be mafia, lying is fun :)

vote strager because he always dies first
anonymous_old
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NoHitter

0_o wrote:

Everyone always wants to be mafia, lying is fun :)
Really?

UNVOTE

VOTE TWO

DeathxShinigami wrote:

He's not a mapper.
adam2046
Unvote
Vote: NoHItter
using someone else's reason is unimaginative.

inb4 quoting this one.

Edit: also for stupid capitalisation of his name.
Lilac
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adam2046

MarioBros777 wrote:

"No Hitter" was the TF2 achievement for Scout in which you must capture the intelligence without firing a shot.

That and his avatar is full of taunt kills.

Unvote

Vote: adam To use someone's reasoning is not a reason to vote for them and it sounds very Mafia like.
I have no idea if you even read my post.
NoHitter

adam2046 wrote:

Edit: also for stupid capitalisation of his name.
XD

I made it NoHItter, so I could include HI in the name.
Wojjan
vote 0_o, talk like a pirate day is over. Only awp can look like a pirate now.
Two_old

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Vote: Two

He's not a mapper.
actually I've made at least one map and know more about it than you do

vote ASH for being a douchebag last game and hurting the town
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

vote 0_o, talk like a pirate day is over. Only awp can look like a pirate now.
I AM A PIRATE

Two wrote:

vote ASH for being a douchebag last game and hurting the town
You say that like its his fault that you guys offed him before he got the chance to respond >_>
Two_old
I don't remember last game tbh so it may have been a werewolf game that I'm talking about. All I know is that I walked away from a game with that thought.
Lilac

adam2046 wrote:

MarioBros777 wrote:

"No Hitter" was the TF2 achievement for Scout in which you must capture the intelligence without firing a shot.

That and his avatar is full of taunt kills.

Unvote

Vote: adam To use someone's reasoning is not a reason to vote for them and it sounds very Mafia like.
I have no idea if you even read my post.
I tend to ignore 'inb4's.... even though I do use it myself.

I mean, I can't let you get away with that... You scum.
anonymous_old
First to use the word "scum".

Vote: Mario
Lilac
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anonymous_old

MarioBros777 wrote:

strager wrote:

First to use the word "scum".

Vote: Mario
I can see why it's called NEWBIE mafia now. >_>
So you admit I caught you!
NoHitter
Wait

Scum = Mafia?
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

Wait

Scum = Mafia?
yes
NoHitter
I should read the wiki then...

We should all roleclaim.
adam2046
Yeeeeeeeea-
No
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

Neeeeeeee-
Yes
I like your thinking.
Mashley
You first strager
anonymous_old

Agent Spin Here wrote:

You first strager
Me first?
Lilac

MarioBros777 wrote:

strager wrote:

I can see why it's called NEWBIE mafia now. >_>
So you admit I caught you!
I admit strager...

...you are a noob... You've caught me in the act in calling you a noob. Well done.

Unvote
Vote: strager Reason: Surprise, fool!
anonymous_old
OMGUS?
Lilac
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anonymous_old
Lilac
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anonymous_old
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Lilac
...So what?

I voted for you because you voted for me... *gasp* Am I going to die now or-- Actually, don't answer that.
anonymous_old

Teh wiki wrote:

Occasionally a Scum player will use it to cover a strategic vote, feigning outrage to get someone else closer to a lynch.
I doubt you're that smart though, judging by your reaction...
Wojjan
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NoHitter
Unvote.

Vote NoHItter.

Vote strager

No attacking TF2 players pls.
Wojjan
vote: NoHItter
you stand corrected
NoHitter
:D

Should we have a vote tally or something?
adam2046
Look at NoHItter buddying with MB.
Also he considered voting himself.
NoHitter
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Lilac

Wojjan wrote:

you're all fools
Right you are.
Lilac

adam2046 wrote:

Look at NoHItter buddying with MB.
What, he is?

The nerve...

Unvote

And I am left with being undecided. The next vote I make after this is final because I'm sick of where this is going and I want to stab the Mafia.
anonymous_old

NoHItter wrote:

Frankly I'm getting bored with the outcome as of now. I thought we would be heavily discussing who the Mafia is by now.
It's more difficulty to incriminate someone without hard evidence.

Sure, you could perform a vote analysis, but this is the RVS and most votes would throw the results off.

I'm confirming my vote on Mario because he seems to want to accelerate the game to the Night phase. Either he is an aux, is a Mafia, or doesn't know what he's saying.
adam2046
My thoughts exactly except prettier.
Though I don't want to off him incase of the former being true.
Wojjan
I'd do a reread, but I like my eyes.
NoHitter
Isn't it the mod's job to vote tally?
anonymous_old
05:15 < strager|irc> MarioBros777: Most people defend themselves etc.
05:15 < strager|irc> ehh I should be posting this
anonymous_old
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Lilac
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Wojjan
vote DeathxShinigami
I know this pattern when I see it. Mafia makes an RVS vote and doesn't bother returning because whatever they say might raise suspicion. So pretty much vote for lurking
anonymous_old

MarioBros777 wrote:

This is why I hate RVS... It doesn't make you think logically...

Vote: NoHItter

Because of this...

adam2046 wrote:

Look at NoHItter buddying with MB.
Bandwagoning early in the game seems Mafia like.
This post is full of fail.

There IS meaning behind votes in the RVS, because they have comments with them and they have patterns.

Buddying is not related to bandwagonning. Buddying is where one player "buddies" with another to try to earn some sort of immunity or protection, or where Mafia buddy together (WIFOM: Mafia distance each other).

Here's the current bandwagon results:
No              jumped on bandwagon (1) against ASH             with Mario          
DxS jumped on bandwagon (1) against Two with strager
ASH jumped on bandwagon (2) against Two with strager DxS
0_o jumped on bandwagon (1) against strager with adam
No jumped on bandwagon (2) against Two with DxS ASH
Mario jumped on bandwagon (1) against adam with strager
Mario jumped on bandwagon (1) against strager with 0_o
No jumped on bandwagon (2) against strager with Mario 0_o
Wojjan jumped on bandwagon (1) against No with adam
Mario jumped on bandwagon (2) against No with adam Wojjan

Cross-reference list:
  1. No: 1, 2, 2 (3)
  2. Mario: 1, 1, 2 (3)
  3. ASH: 2 (1)
  4. 0_o: 1 (1)
  5. DxS: 1 (1)
  6. Wojjan: 1 (1)
Analysis:

Interesting how more experienced players have not bandwagonned (much) and less experienced players have bandwagonned more.

Also interesting is that both No and Mario have been accused of buddying and both have jumped on the most bandwagons.
adam2046
But they seem to love jumping on bandwagons with me and you.
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

But they seem to love jumping on bandwagons with me and you.
We're too good for them.
anonymous_old

Wojjan wrote:

vote DeathxShinigami
I know this pattern when I see it. Mafia makes an RVS vote and doesn't bother returning because whatever they say might raise suspicion. So pretty much vote for lurking
I'll look at other Mafia games and see how valid this is in practice.
NoHitter
Now it's getting exciting! :D

(What are bandwagons...)

(and RVS?)
adam2046
Read the wiki harder.
NoHitter
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anonymous_old
Crazy Mafia 1
Mafia: Echo
Echo D1: adam (L-0)
Echo D2: Pasonia (L-1)

This game was pretty small, and Echo is an experienced player. He didn't lurk at all.

Crazy Mafia 2
This kinda fell apart, I think. I forgot who was Mafia. xD And I'm not gonna re-read the thread to find out.

Crazy Mafia 3
Derekku gave up. Sucks.

Horrendously Unfair Mafia
There's absolutely no point in analyzing this.

Mafia 4
Mafia: 0_o, LS
0_o D1: Pasonia (L-4), Wojjan (L-4), strager (L-2), Wojjan (L-4), SFG (L-2), strager (L-2?), Pasonia (L-3), strager (L-1)
LS D1: SFG (L-4), strager (L-4), -, strager (L-4)
0_o D2: Pasonia (L-3?), -, Pasonia (L-0)
LS D2: Pasonia (L-1)
0_o D3: LS (L-2), rust (L-1)
LS D3: rust (L-0)
0_o D4: LS (L-1)
LS D4: 0_o (L-1)

It is clear I wasn't liked LS exhibited lurker behaviour, but 0_o certainly didn't. No conclusion, as it seems to be just play style.

Continuing...
anonymous_old
Newbie Mafia 3
Mafia: Echo, Lucidity
Echo D1: Ivalsetto (L-4)
Lucidity D1: kuu (L-3), strager (L-1)
Echo D2: adam (L-1)
Lucidity D2: adam (L-4)
Echo D3: Ivalsetto (L-1)
Lucidity D3: Ivalsetto (L-0)

Not much voting going on by either. Not much voting going on by anyone, though. Not a thorough game by any means. I find no conclusion from this other than Echo lurked.

Newbie Mafia 5
Mafia: Echo, strager
Echo D1: adam (L-3), -, strager (L-2)
strager D1: adam (L-4), ASH (L-4), Echo (L-4), gamerrox (L-4), Rolled (L-3), m980 (L-2?)
Echo D2: ASH (L-1)
Echo D3: (none)

Very similar to M4. 'Nuff said.

I'll maybe do more later.
anonymous_old
General conclusion: none. I didn't look at Townie vote patterns. D'oh.

But I'm not gonna. I'm lazy. =[
Two_old
well, I've noticed that the first person to talk about statistics has a 70% chance to be a werewolf/mafia ^_^
DeathxShinigami
Ahahaha...My first vote against me <3

Unvote

Vote: NoHItter
NoHitter
Bandwagon

The Wiki wrote:

Several Votes on the same player to try to Lynch them or force them to roleclaim; especially used if the votes come in quick succession and without independent reasons.
Fine I'll roleclaim. It's the best thing to do right??? According to the wiki???
Wojjan
depends wether you have an aux or not.
NoHitter
Aux?

I checked the wiki. . .
0_o
Aux = Auxillary role = cop/doctor in this game.

Seeing as you are not in imminent danger of being lynched there is no reason to roleclaim, and I would advise against it. If you are the Cop, you only have a 50/50 shot of being protected by a doctor tonight, so your role could go right to waste with zero results. If you are the Doctor, you are pretty much dead meat tonight since you can't protect yourself. If you are a vanilla townie, claiming townie is pointless because that's what you would want the mafia to think if you were an aux, and that's what you would want to the town to think if you were mafia (basically there is no reason to believe you anyway). If you are mafia.. then go ahead and do whatever you want :P

So yeah. Keep your role to yourself for today (unless you are about to be lynched) (or are the mafia)
Mashley
Roleclaim, faggot
0_o
ok are we actually considering a NoHItter lynch or are the people voting him still RVS-ing
Wojjan
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anonymous_old
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NoHitter
Why do the new guys get targeted first :(

Still. Exciting game!!!!
anonymous_old

NoHItter wrote:

Why do the new guys get targeted first :(
It's easier to pick out tells on them because most of the time they're not thinking about the consequences of their actions.

Also, they're less likely to bring a logical reason contrary to an argument against them, making them easier to be kept as a target.

Newbies are easy to sheep for a similar reason.

Newbies also tend to focus on less important things, diverting the Town from something important.

Combine these and you see why the Mafia would find newbies valuable and Townies would be wary of them.
NoHitter
Unvote
Vote: DxS

Did you vote me randomly or something?
anonymous_old
Another OMGUS vote? Heh.

Can you not read, DxS?
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