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Skillet - Whispers in the Dark

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rust45
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Topic Starter
rust45
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 12:10:39 PM

Artist: Skillet
Title: Whispers in the Dark
Source: Comatose
Tags: Skillet Comatose 0_o
BPM: 188
Filesize: 5704kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. 0_o's Easy (1.78 stars, 90 notes)
  2. alex's Normal (3.25 stars, 131 notes)
  3. Hard (4.33 stars, 182 notes)
  4. Insane (4.83 stars, 348 notes)
Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks to Xiaounlimited for letting me use his awesome Xi-Style Skin for this map! You a cool dude with awesome skinning powers!

A freaking awesome song mapped by a freaking awesome ghey dude. The insane on this is probaly the hardest map I've ever made and I hope it's rankable.

Resubmitted after the download wasn't working.
blissfulyoshi noted that I forgot a BG, if you already downloaded it and care about having the Comatose Album there while you play, please redownload.

Edit: blissfulyoshi and Inozuma suggestions.
Edit: Redid breaks as Alex0686 noted.
Edit: Took James's, Gladi's and Gens's suggestion and added Alex's normal, but is imcoplete so I'm moving this to the WIPs.
Edit: Took some of ASH's suggestions.
Media Change: I changed the mp3 because ASH noted it was crappy. But now the offset needs to be checked again because I suck with offset.
Edit: whymeman's suggestions and the Xi-style skin taken out because I fogot to ask if I could use it, if I get permission I will put it back.
Edit: Put the Xi-Style back in after getting permission.
Edit: blissfulyoshi's suggestions and added Alex's completed diff, now is in Pending.
Edit: Added Remmy's offset.
Edit: Animask's suggestions.
Edit: Vexed's suggestions.
Edit: tieff's suggestions.
Edit: Takuma's suggestion.
Edit: Mogsy and Starrod suggestions.
Edit: More from Mogsy.
Edit: 0_o suggestions and diff, more Mogsy a little from vytalibus Alex modded it again and Breeze provided a warning for the 2x slider in Insane.
Edit: minyeob noting out my mistimed note on Hard.
Edit: Once more Mogsy suggestions.
Edit: Hey guess what? More Mogsy suggestions, it's not like it's a bad thing but I wish more people would mod this.
Edit: Resubmit after peppy told me to, and part of the solo now is mapped by 0_o
Edit: EEeee and Cheesewarlock mods.
Edit: tieff's suggestions.
Edit: Changed 0_o's diff back to what it orignally was.
Last edited by rust45 , edited 37 times in total.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
re-upload, the download isn't working

awesome song btw :D
rust45
1,088 posts
Joined May 2009
Topic Starter
rust45
Should be fixed now, please try again.
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
You are going to need an easier diff to rank this

The offset sounds pretty off, but after talking in irc, I am not very confident in my offset skills.

Besides irc stuff:
Hard:
00:20:68 (4,1) - align?
00:21:32 (4,5) - " " same applies to the reflection)
00:22:12 (1,1) - the overlap of these sliders look very ugly
00:41:57 (1,2,3) - make a straight line?
01:25:61 (3,4,5,6) - this breaks the flow of the map
get rid of extra inherited timing sections at the end.

Insane:
00:24:82 (2) - align with 1?
00:26:25 (3,4) - make parallel to 1,2?
00:44:76 (2) - restack under the ending of 1
00:46:04 (4) - restack under the ending of 4
00:56:57 (1,2,3,4) - change these so they form a clean rectangle
01:01:04 (5) - align wtih 4?
01:25:61 (3,4,5,6) - since you have to stop an hit overlapping notes in the same location before going reversing direction, these set of notes are very confusing
01:31:04 (5) - align with 4?
01:39:02 (1) - make a horizontal reflection of the green 2
01:58:81 (1,2,3,4) - keep the spacing consistent in the combo
02:04:87 (5,6,7) - another set of confusing notes
02:14:68 (5) - align with 4?
02:32:80 (4) - align with 5
I really think you should fix the alignment issues in this difficulty.

I think this map needs to be cleaned up, but have a star for now.
Last edited by blissfulyoshi , edited 1 time in total.
Inozuma
596 posts
Joined June 2008
Inozuma
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
cyanberryio
424 posts
Joined August 2008
cyanberryio
[Insane]
00:28:242 - Reinsert the break in this area.
01:14:279 - ^
01:19:625 - ^
02:21:221 - ^
A little more symmetry could help, but it's up to you. Some things feel kinda thrown out there. :\

[Hard]
Breaks, breaks, breaks~


Not finding much cause I'm being lazy, I think it is a pretty fun map. :D Just throw in a Normal or Easy for the noobies, Hard is a little bit too much for them. :P

Star'd
James2250
osu! Alumni
4,059 posts
Joined July 2008
James2250
*agrees that you need an easier diff*

hard:
00:25:76 (4) -make this aligned with the rest of that row
01:57:84 (1) - don't like it under notes >_>

insane:
I kinda feel like its over mapped at the end but awesome anyway :P
have a star :)
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
Offset 18287

Insane
00:46:05 (4) - Not good stacked.
00:47:64 (1) - Make this end on the same line as it started.
00:56:58 (1,2,3,4) - Off screen, looks ugly.
01:31:99 (7) - Move on grid lvl to the left to make 'perfect line'.
01:37:73 (1,2) - Off screen, looks ugly.
01:39:01 (1,2) - ^
02:00:39 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
02:10:60 (1) - Look at 00:47:64 (1).
02:14:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kinda impossible, with sudden stacks in between. You might want to change that to make it a whole clear pattern which continues in one line.
02:16:99 (1) - Spacing.

Needs easiër diff.
Gens
osu! Alumni
3,485 posts
Joined August 2008
Gens
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
cyanberryio
424 posts
Joined August 2008
cyanberryio
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Maybe it's just the song, but this mp3 sounds pretty awful.

alex's normal
Notes aren't snapped. To fix this, press Timing - resnap all notes.
00:38:77 (1,2) - Get rid of 2 and lengthen 1 by 1/2
00:41:34 (1) - Why blue tick?
Uh, this isn't finished right? It's so short.

Hard
00:41:34 (1) - Bad spacing is bad
imo, there isn't really a need for this difficulty. It isn't very good, you'd be better off with just Normal and Insane.

Insane
Don't put notes on the very corner grid, it looks fugly.
02:36:15 (1) - Take that kiai off the beginning of this slider >:(
whymeman
osu! Alumni
3,432 posts
Joined November 2008
whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Detaild Modding Go!

Osz. File Check (Done)

SPOILER
Video: No
Custom Skin: Yes (I Hope you have permission to use the Xi-Style Skin first. If not, you'll have to remove it from the map.)
[Current] Size: 5.53 MB / 10.00MB
Source: N/A
Tags: Yes (Though it could use more tags like the song name for example)

[alex's Normal] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 0.90
Distance Snap Average: x1.0
[Current] Objects: 63 ( 36 Circles / 27 Sliders / No Spinner)
[Current] Max Combo: 148
[Current] Max Score: 194,280
[Current] Star Rating: 3.08
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.3
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.2
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.3

00:20:41 ~ 00:30:14 (Sec.) - Starts off a bit roughly, making it hard to grasp the beat for those just trying out the map. Maybe a slight tone down would help.
00:28:55 (1) - The slider sounds okay before the repeat, but after, it sounds sound good at all. Cut the repeat and insert a note at 00:29:98.
00:40:92 (1) - The timing placement of the slider is incorrect (1/4 late). Also, its a bit too long by 1/4 after the adjustment.
00:43:47 (1) - ^ (Also 1/4 late, but after the adjustment, its 1/4 too short.)

Notes: The map is okay, but needs just a little work. The start of the map played a bit roughly for a [Normal]. Also, for scoring reasons, you'll need a spinner for this map at a decent length or else the scores are engraved in stone.

[Hard] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 1.00
Distance Snap Average: x0.8
[Current] Objects: 192 ( 154 Circles / 36 Sliders / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 264
[Current] Max Score: 1,345,932
[Current] Star Rating: 4.26
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.5
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.3
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.6

00:21:53 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Honestly, it looks a bit cluttered there...
00:24:24 (1) - Don't think this should be a new combo...
00:25:52 (1) - The placement of this slider is messy. Please try to make it more neater.
00:25:52 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^^^ With an addition to that, it looks a bit cluttered here as well. And for that last slider, it sounds odd when it ends past 00:29:98.
00:48:82 (5,6,1) - The placement looks messy, and also, why is that slider set as a new combo?
00:49:77 (1) - Could look a bit more neater and sounds like it should end at 00:50:41.
00:56:16 (1) - Why as a new combo?
00:57:11 (1) - Not even with slider end.
01:14:11 ~ 01:17:86 (X) - Maybe instead of a break, a few notes could be here?
01:33:82 (5,6) - Not even under the slider end.
01:35:89 (6,7,8,9,10) - Just my thoughts on this, without stacking the (6), it makes the whole row look a bit odd and it pushes (10) all the way to the left of the grid.
01:38:44 (6) - Looks a bit odd without stacking.
01:43:39 (5) - Sounds like it should end at 01:44:03.
01:58:39 (1, 4) - Slightly uneven under the slider.

Notes: Honestly, the map could have been made a bit more neater with some more work. Sorry, but that's how I see it so far.

[Insane] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 1.40
Distance Snap Average: x1.2
[Current] Objects: 359 ( 295 Circles / 62 Sliders / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 482
[Current] Max Score: 4,123,510
[Current] Star Rating: 4.86
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.7
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.3
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.8

00:21:69 (1) - Not even under the slider end.
00:44:35 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - The line up looks a bit uneven.
00:44:99 (7) - Looks a bit cramed into the corner...
00:46:90 (2) - Not even under the slider end.
00:49:77 (1) - Could look a bit more neater and sounds like it should end at 00:50:41.
00:54:88 (2) - Don't look right under the slider end.
00:58:71 (1,2,3,4) - .......... Okay... you'll really have to do some adjustemts for that. Cramming the notes up every corner as far as you can doesn't look right. Especially with 2 of the hitnotes bottoming out and the jumps itself is not equal.
01:06:05 (5,1) - Bottomed out....
01:14:11 ~ 01:17:86 (X) - Maybe instead of a break, a few notes could be here?
01:24:56 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Doesn't feel neatly placed...
01:27:75 (3,4,5,6) - That was kinda confusing...
01:30:30 (2) - Not even under the slider end.
01:39:88 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Once again.... make sure the jump is proper.
01:43:39 (5) - Sounds like it should end at 01:44:03.
01:51:05 (2) - Doesn't look right under the previous slider.
01:52:33 (1) - The end point almost bottomed out.
01:56:16 (2,3,4,1) - Could have been done a bit neater...
02:02:54 (2,3,4,5,6) - Another crammed jump....
02:12:75 (1) - Could be a bit neater...
02:16:26 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Holy....... that's a bit overkill for an insane map.
02:38:28 (1) - Long & Fast slider... :o
02:39:24 (1,2,3) - Close to the bottom...
02:43:39 (1,2,3,4) - .... Another crammed jump.
02:54:24 (1,2,3) - ^
02:56:79 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The line up is not horizontially even and the middle section is not even with the slider end.

Notes: ..... This needs alot of work.

Overall: This map overall needs plenty of work. The shapes, the jumps, and some timing issues with the notes. Also, PLEASE listen to everyone about adding an [Easy] difficulty. You don't want a BAT being pissed off saying the same thing after everyone already told you. I'll star the map, but please make sure to get it fixed up more neatly.
Last edited by whymeman , edited 1 time in total.
Xiao_old
292 posts
Joined July 2008
Xiao_old
You can use my skin for this map, I don't really care to be honest.

I'm not very touchy about it
rust45
1,088 posts
Joined May 2009
Topic Starter
rust45
Alright, thanks for letting me use it,
mrtn
osu! Alumni
1,065 posts
Joined March 2008
mrtn
try offset 20411

[alex's normal]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
no problems other than the kiai ;p

[hard]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
00:22:96 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't like this being 1 grid lower than the 4 of the previous combo.
00:28:07 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:49:77 (1) - remove new combo
01:52:32 (1) - ^

[insane]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
00:56:16 (1) - remove new combo
01:06:37 (1) - ^
01:49:77 (1) - ^
01:52:33 (1) - ^
01:59:99 (1) - ^
02:02:22 (1) - ^
02:40:84 (1) - ^
02:43:39 (1) - ^
02:51:05 (1) - ^
02:54:24 (1) - ^


starred :)
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
Light modding:

alex:
00:28:55 (1) - I think for consistency, take out this new combo
need a spinner to break ties

Hard:
I still don't like how the beginning looks
01:35:89 (6,7,8,9) and 01:38:44 (6,7,8,9) - looked messy in my opinion, the second one was a little annoying to read too.

Insane:
02:02:22 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing within the combo
02:07:01 (5,6) - this breaks the flow esp since it is right before a large stream
02:38:28 (1) - this 2x slider feels random, esp since I went from a slightly boring repeat slider

That is all this time.
cyanberryio
424 posts
Joined August 2008
cyanberryio
Okay, back from being off. And just updating. :D Extended it, because rust requested that.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu

I'm actually early. :P Somehow I wasn't limited. :D
RemmyX25
osu! Alumni
3,087 posts
Here since the beginning
RemmyX25
Timing Request

Actually you were really close to my guess. I got an offset of 20,408.

Best of luck!
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
[Normal]
Why does it start with kiai time?
00:53:59 (1) - Slider whistle?
00:58:70 (4) - Finishes in here somewhere?
01:03:81 (4) - Slider whistle?
01:06:36 (1) - ^
01:08:91 (5) - Finishes?
01:14:02 (5) - Whistle doesn't really fit here much...
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle?
01:49:76 (7) - ^
01:52:32 (6) - Finishes
01:57:42 (1) - Slider whistle

[Hard]
00:29:34 (1) - Finish slider end? without whistle?
01:06:36 (1) - Slider whistle?
01:13:86 (7) - Finish maybe?
01:18:97 (4) - ^
01:25:83 (7) - Clap
01:28:38 (6) - ^
01:40:51 (3) - Whistle maybe?
01:41:79 (3) - ^
01:43:38 (5) - End on next white tick?
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle
01:49:76 (1) - ^
01:57:26 (1) - ^
02:07:48 (7) - Finish?

[Insane]
00:42:74 (9) - Slider whistle
00:44:98 (7) - Clap
00:46:89 (2) - Maybe make 2 and 4 both whistles instead?
00:49:76 (1) - End on white tick then move spinner
00:53:59 (1) - Slider whistle
00:56:15 (1) - ^
01:13:86 (7) - Finish?
01:18:97 (5) - ^
01:25:83 (7) - Clap
01:28:38 (6) - Clap
01:31:25 (4) - Whistle?
01:43:38 (5) - End on white tick then move spinner
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle
01:57:26 (1) - ^
01:59:98 (1) - Maybe put this between 4 and 5?
02:02:53 (1) - I don't really like the jumps here
Deathstream is a evil and unnecessary and too hard to follow and offbeat
02:38:28 (1) - Whistle and finish here
02:40:83 (1) - Slider whistle
02:48:33 (1) - ^
02:51:04 (1) - ^
cyanberryio
424 posts
Joined August 2008
cyanberryio
Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
Vexed_old
162 posts
Joined January 2009
Vexed_old
Offset seems great. Easy SS for me.

Alex's Normal
00:29:663 Add note here. Center between 11 and 12.
00:29:982 Add finish.
01:13:865 Add Note here and stack on 4. Remove 5.
Above mods sound good and work well. Seems better than what is there. Just Try it.:]
Only other thing about this diff is that it seams a bit easy. I would turn up the Over all Difficulty to Midway mark. Normal.
I played it that way and it is more fitting.

Hard
Hp Drain rate up 2 notches
Overall diff. Up 2 notches.
01:32:05 (1,2) - this does not sound or feel very good. I would strongly recommend a change there. Mebbe to half tick.

Insane
Seems well done. Very playable.

LIke the song.
Starz!
cyanberryio
424 posts
Joined August 2008
cyanberryio
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
Vexed_old
162 posts
Joined January 2009
Vexed_old
Doesn't seem that anything was changed in Normal. I guess that is your option. I still say the settings are farrr to low in every diff. Except for insane. Normal plays like easy :/. I'm sure this will not be the last time you here this, but w/e.
tieff
Featured Artist
2,254 posts
Joined March 2009
tieff
Skillet. <3

[alex's Normal]
00:26:15 (3) - So ronery whistle. T_T
00:42:74 (2,3) - Remove whistle or finish.
00:58:70 (4) - New combo.
01:03:81 (4) - ^
02:07:00 (5) - Nazi. Down a bit.

[Hard]
00:24:23 (1,1) - Spacing.
00:58:70 (1,2,3,4,5) - Jumps here?
01:09:55 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:02:53 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^

[Insane]
02:18:81 (7,8) - Spacing?

Cool map, star.
Takuma
osu! Alumni
1,704 posts
Joined October 2008
Takuma
Not going to mod this sorry. I personally don't like Insane at all - I know people have their own style, and if I mod Insane I'm probably going to ask you to change it so much that it wouldn't even be your style anymore, sorry.. Perhaps I'll mod the other difficulties when I come back.

Hard:
00:25:51 (1) - Too close to the previous (1) - other than that it looks good.

Normal looks fine. Starred.
rust45
1,088 posts
Joined May 2009
Topic Starter
rust45
Well it sucks that you can't bubble it because you don't feel like you should mod insane. But I'm happy with a star anyway since it better then nothing, put the change in and thanks for even bothering to look.
Mogsy
osu! Alumni
3,450 posts
Here since the beginning
Mogsy
I'm only going to have enough time right now to do Insane before I leave, so I won't leave you hanging, modding-wise.

Insane:
SPOILER
-00:21:04 (5) - Clap goes on the last point.
-00:22:32 (5) - ^
-00:22:96 (1) - Straighten this out.
-00:23:59 (3) - ^
-00:24:07 (4) - Clap goes here.
-00:24:23 (5) - Finish goes on the first two points.
-00:26:63 (7) - Clap goes here.
-00:27:90 (8) - ^
-00:29:18 (8) - ^
-00:29:34 (9) - Finish on the first and last points.
-00:44:34 (4) - Remove the Clap.
-00:45:30 (8,9) - Remove the Claps and replace them with Whistles.
-00:49:76 (1) - Make this look neater.
-00:53:59 (1) - Replace the Clap with a Whistle.
-00:54:55 (1,2,3,4) - Remove the Whistles.
-00:55:83 (5) - Clap goes here.
-00:56:15 (1) - Whistle goes here; remove the Clap.
-00:57:11 (1,2,3) - Remove the Whistles.
-00:58:06 (4) - Put a Clap on the endpoint.
-00:58:70 (1,2,3,4) - Replace the Claps with Whistles.
-01:03:17 (5) - Add a Whistle.
-01:03:65 (1) - Hitsounds should be like this: Finish and Whistle on the starting point and slider track, just a Whistle on the endpoint.
-01:04:76 (1,2,3,4) - Remove the Whistles.
-01:06:04 (5) - Add a Clap.
-01:06:36 (1) - Replace the Clap with a Whistle.
-01:07:32 (1,2,3) - Remove the Whistles.
-01:08:59 (5) - Put a Clap on the starting point, make the endpoint a Whistle instead of a Clap, and straighten this out, it looks disgusting.
-01:09:55 (1,2,3) - There should only be Whistles on these.
-01:13:06 (4,5,6) - No hitsounds here, remove any there..
-01:17:85 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unnecessary; delete and reinput the break.
-01:31:25 (4) - This should have just a Whistle on everything but the endpoint, which should have a Clap.
-01:32:21 (2,3,4,5) - Just Whistles on these.
-01:33:81 (6) - This just needs a Clap.
-01:34:13 (7) - This just needs a Finish.
-01:36:68 (10) - Add a Whistle.
-01:39:23 (10) - ^
-Remember the hitsounds I mentioned during the chorus section? Use that pattern every time the chorus comes up. It'd be a chore to list all the points, so I'm sure you'll be able to find them.
-01:59:98 (1) - ewwewwewweww change it this is absolutely DISGUSTING.
-02:08:12 (4) - Clap goes here.
-02:08:75 (8) - ^
-02:09:39 (4) - ^
-02:09:55 (5,6,7) - Whistles go here.
-02:10:03 (9) - Clap goes here.
-02:10:51 (2) - Clap goes on the endpoint.
-02:11:15 (4) - ^
-02:11:47 (1) - Add a Whistle.
-02:11:79 (3) - ^, except put a Clap on the endpoint.
-02:12:11 (4) - Put a Clap on the endpoint.
-02:12:42 (5,6,7) - Whistles go here.
-02:12:74 (1) - Tidy this up and add a Finish.
-02:16:25 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - What in the world is this crap. Remap this, it plays like a river of bricks and looks even worse.
-02:33:094 - Soft inherit section goes here.
-02:33:65 (2) - Whistle goes here.
-02:34:92 (4) - ^
-02:35:647 - Go back to Normal sounds here, but a reduced volume.
-02:34:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Keep up the New Combo every two beats trend here.
-Look, the chorus again. Remember what I said.
-02:58:54 (7) - Finish goes here.

I definitely would not have bubbled this just because of Insane, sorry. ):
Starrodkirby86
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Good...Good...=w=

[alex's Normal]:
00:22:64 (4) - I think you should add more Whistles if you plan to keep this.
01:13:38 (3) - The inherited timing section here actually felt a bit odd. Perhaps you should move it before (2) instead?
A solid difficulty. Good work, chap.

[Hard]:
00:29:34 (1) - Add whistle on startpoint?

Those are really just hitsound suggestions. The map doesn't possess much other technical errors. I'm not touching [Insane] yet...Unless you already finished what Mogsworth stated.

Now the issue I'm noticing here is the way you used Fountains on [Hard].
Do not overuse kiai time (general rule is one toggle per minute of playable length). Do not use kiai time just for fountains unless you are doing this extremely rarely. Kiai time is meant to accent chorus sections. You can toggle it off and on halfway through the chorus if that looks good, but using it constantly every 4-8 beats is just stupid.
The most valid kiai section would be the area at the end. I'm not quite sure where to go from here, but if it doesn't hurt, reduce the Kiai please? ^^
rust45
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cyanberryio
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Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
BlueskY_old
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good
Mogsy
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Insane:
SPOILER
-00:53:599- That flash fades out too slowly. Fade it out faster.
-01:07:32 (1,2,3) - Remove the Whistles.
-01:47:216 - This fades out too quickly. We need to find a happy medium here.
-01:57:429 - I'd say to remove this one entirely or make it start 1/2 a beat earlier. Having it start in the middle of a slider, even if it syncs up with the vocals, looks awkward as crap.
-02:16:81 (5) - Clap goes on the last point.
-02:17:69 (10) - Clap goes here.
-02:20:40 (1) - This looks ugly. Fix it.
-02:22:96 (16) - Finish goes here.
-Remove the flash in the break, it's not pretty, it's ugly.
-Random kiai. .-. If you're going to turn on/off kiai once, do it the next time.
-Remove the next random flash in the chorus.
-02:50:72 (5) - Clap goes here.
-02:53:28 (5) - Clap goes on the starting point.

Didn't want to leave you hanging, sorry. I need to head off to bed soon, I'll do the other two tomorrow morning before my family drags me elsewhere.
0_o
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0_o
General
The single strobes felt kind of weird since there wasn't many of them. I would either
a) replace strobes with kiai fountains
b) remove them alltogether
c) do more of them ;)

Alex's Normal
00:28:70 (11) - Start this 1/2 later
01:25:51 (3) - delete
01:29:34 (1) - just make this a hitcircle
01:32:05 (2) - delete
02:00:62 (x) - add a beat here?
some parts are pretty difficult for Normal, I would take out some more of the 1/4 streams/stacks.

Hard
00:20:40 (1) - This sounds sort of awkward. Shortening it a white tick then adding 2 hitcircles to fill in the blank works pretty well imo
00:21:68 (5,6) - Shorten by a white tick and delete 6?
same for the next pattern
00:49:76 (1) - Make this symmetrical?
01:27:42 (2,3,4) - ugh, ugly/confusing pattern =/

Insane
00:58:70 (1,2) - Partially off-screen
01:03:65 (1,1,2,3,4) - Can you move this stuff around so it's symmetrical (ie the straight line lines up with 5). The slider is kind of ugleh too
01:39:87 (1) - Partially off screen
01:41:47 (2) - ^
01:42:42 (1) - ^
02:03:17 (2,4) - ^
02:16:25 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ...wow. yeahhh I would remap this part =/
02:38:28 (1) - unpredictable, therefore kinda cheap (i don't think this can be ranked)
02:45:30 (4) - offscreen
02:54:23 (1,2) - ^ -_-

Also I don't think stacking is allowed to be disabled, but idk

there, tis modded :D

*
vytalibus
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My general suggestion would be to place the kiai sections at the start of the chorus. It's weird to see a short kiai section by the end.

[Insane]
00:49:76 (1) - If you're looking for symmetry, the right part's a bit off.

So far, so good. My only issue is the kiai, which could've been improved a lot.
Mogsy
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I'd hate to pop in and give a general comment, but I'm being pulled left and right by my family to go places. So here's a suggestion:

Make Hard's hitsounds more consistent with those of Insane's. Honestly, they make more sense that way.

I APOLOGIZE IF IT SEEMS LIKE I'M SHIRKING MY DUTIES. I'm just trying my best to do what I can in whatever amount of time I have.
cyanberryio
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cyanberryio

0_o wrote:

Alex's Normal
some parts are pretty difficult for Normal, I would take out some more of the 1/4 streams/stacks.
It's just me maybe, but I like a little more challenge in Normals/Easy difficulties, how is the player going to ever get better? :D

btw, all changes done
oops, posted and forgot the .osu again. D:

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
0_o
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rust45
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0_o wrote:

Alex0686 wrote:

It's just me maybe, but I like a little more challenge in Normals/Easy difficulties, how is the player going to ever get better?
Maybe what I meant was that it's too hard for the easiest difficulty in the map. If there was an Easy then the difficulty level would probably be acceptable, but I think every map should have a difficulty that's suited for beginners.

hmm, maybe I'll make an Easy...
Go right ahead I suck at easys.
cyanberryio
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cyanberryio
Alright, remod mostly for Insane.
All the following are suggestions.

MODDING STARTS HERE! :D
[Insane]
--[General]
Turn stacking up one or two ticks?
[/General]

--[Kiai]
02:48:333 - Why not start it here?
[/Kiai]

--[Strobes]
They feel awfully short. >_> And because they are so short they don't feel bright enough.
Strobes to add:
00:56:152
01:06:365
01:49:769
02:12:748 (?)
02:20:408 (?)
02:21:684 (?)
02:22:322 (?)
02:22:961 (?)
02:40:833
02:48:333
[/Strobes]

[Beatmap]
00:58:70 (1,2) - Each too low, and (2) is covered by combo multiplier.
01:30:93 (3,4) - Covered by combo multiplier?
01:39:87 (1) - combo multiplier covering it
01:41:47 (2) - Too low.
01:42:42 (1) - ^
02:03:17 (2,4) - ^ & Combo Multiplier covering it.
02:45:30 (4) - Too low
02:54:23 (1,2) - Low & combo multiplier.
[/Insane]
END OF MODDING.

I'll get the 2x warning up soon. ^,^
Breeze
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here's the DOUBLE SPEED.png and the SB code

SB code
SPOILER
[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
Sprite,Background,TopLeft,"white.png",0,0
L,53599,1
F,1,0,319,1,0
L,63812,1
F,1,0,319,1,0
L,107216,1
F,1,0,319,1,0
L,117429,1
F,1,0,319,1,0
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"DS.png",320,240
F,0,157402,157482,0,1
F,0,157482,157562,1,0
F,0,157562,157642,0,1
F,0,157642,157721,1,0
F,0,157721,157801,0,1
F,0,157801,157881,1,0
F,0,157881,157961,0,1
F,0,157961,158040,1,0
F,0,158040,158120,0,1
F,0,158120,158200,1,0
F,0,158200,158280,0,1
M,0,158280,,322,132
S,0,158280,,0.70304
F,0,158280,158439,1,0
S,0,158280,158439,0.70304,1.6656
//Storyboard Sound Samples



and star for you
0_o
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY

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(if you can come up with a better name for it then go ahead :P)
minyeob
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[Overall]
I checked your "last battle" before...... Your beatmapping skills have improved a lot!

[alex's Normal]
Change lower case a to upper case A

[Hard]
01:13:14 (4) - This circle is placed on bad timing. Make it 1/4 beat faster(To white tick)

Star ;)
rust45
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Mogsy
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Sorry this took so long, guys! >< I got distracted and then sick. But a promise is a promise!

alex's Normal:
SPOILER
-Nice use of flashes.
-00:21:36 (2) - Add a Whistle.
-00:24:87 (6) - Add a Finish to the endpoint.
-00:27:42 (7) - Put a Whistle on the first and third points.
-00:43:06 (3) - Remove the Finish.
-00:45:30 (2,3) - Remove the Finishes.
-01:13:70 (4) - Add a Finish to the endpoint.
-01:35:72 (3) - This beat seems really random.

Hard:
SPOILER
-00:23:59 (5) - There should only be a Clap on the last point.
-00:24:23 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark and the Whistle stuff; add a Finish to both points.
-00:28:70 (5,1) - See the last two points I brought up.
-00:48:81 (5) - New Combo mark goes here.
-00:49:76 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark and make this neater.
-01:34:13 (6) - Remove the Whistle.
-01:40:51 (3) - Add a Whistle.
-01:57:26 (1) - what is this I don't even--please make it neater.
-02:02:21 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-02:02:53 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-02:07:00 (5) - Add a Whistle.
-02:07:32 (6) - Add a Clap.
cyanberryio
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cyanberryio

Mogsworth wrote:

Sorry this took so long, guys! >< I got distracted and then sick. But a promise is a promise!

alex's Normal:
-Nice use of flashes. rust did them all
-01:35:72 (3) - This beat seems really random. I hear how it fits. (will remove if there's a second mentioning)
Rest of the changes were done. :)

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
Aeris_old
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Aeris_old
Nice song and beatmap =D

*give star*
Mogsy
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0_o that's easy:
SPOILER
-00:44:02 (1) - Remove the Whistle. It doesn't particularly fit there.
-00:47:85 (2) - Make the hitsounds of this mirror those of 1.
-00:54:87 (2) - Endpoint should have a Finish.
-00:56:79 (1) - This should have only a Clap.
-01:02:53 (2) - This looks really messy. But it fits I guess but if you could clean it up that would be grand.
-01:06:36 (3,1) - Finish only, Clap only.
-01:27:42 (1) - Again with the whistleslider. It sounds...not good. Please remove the Whistle.
-01:32:53 (5) - First two points should have whistles.
-01:56:15 (1) - Make this symmetrical.
-01:57:429 - Flash should go here, instead of where you had it after this.

alex's Normal:
-01:35:72 (3) - This beat seems really random considering the fact that you were syncing to the vocals. Randomly switching what you're syncing to for one note is just not good/it doesn't sound right at all.

Fix and I'll give this a bubble.
0_o
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0_o
Do the flash thing for me, since I don't know how to :P

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [0_o that's Easy].osu
Mogsy
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I updated the .osb for you.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45).osb
rust45
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Thanks for updating the osb for me, and I'll get Alex to see about his diff and if I can't get him I'll just get myself, won't add 0_o's change though until I get Alex's diff fixed as well.
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