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Twins - Tearless Moscow

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Topic Starter
alvisto
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 5:11:44 PM

Artist: Twins
Title: Tearless Moscow
Tags: Cantonese Cantopop Chinese
BPM: 150
Filesize: 4771kb
Play Time: 03:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (4.06 stars, 321 notes)
  2. Beginner (2.46 stars, 192 notes)
  3. Tearless Moscow (4.62 stars, 418 notes)
Download: Twins - Tearless Moscow
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SONG INFO :
A sentimental ballad song telling a story of a girl longing and waiting for her lover to appear in the old city of Moscow. In the end, she realized she might be alone again living in this tearless Moscow.

CREDITS:
Skin - Alex0686 ( Thanks for letting me to use it....) xD


MISC :
A chinese song by Twins. Original song title : ???????

All difficulty done. I like my custom hitsounds. xD

I *dream* (note the symbol asterisk) to SB this story song, but meh, I gave up.

Also, I am open to all kind of BG suggestions, since I can't find a good BG from the net. D:

My plan to introduce Twins' songs to osu! =D
Topic Starter
alvisto
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Shinxyn
:3
no bg yet~

Beginner-
The beginning hitsounds got tiring to listen to cuz it just keeps going in the same pattern, but then again, its Beginner (easy)...
Ehh... good enough, the map gets kinda repeatative and boring, but leave that for doubletime~

Advanced-
01:08:05 (1,2,3) - with all the whistles around... was this little no-whistle gap on purpose?
02:43:04 - add note for the sake of breaking this long only-white-tick pattern (and to the music)

Tearless Moscow-
00:22:04 - I assume the sliderslide sound is on purpose since the timing panel isn't custom... is it...? eh, anyways, if so, please lower volume so its kinda like 00:55:65 (6,7)'s?
01:01:45 (4,5,6) - hmm, these (this, 02:21:45 (4,5,6),and 02:36:65 (4,5,6)) have hitsounds, these- 01:07:85 (5,1,2) and 01:52:65 (7,8,9) don't, even though they sound pretty much the same, which is right?
01:16:04 to 01:19:24 - no whistle gap?
01:30:85 (1) - I don't think this sliderslide whistle was on purpose, since 01:32:45 (1) - doesn't have one, or should it?
01:56:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - the only 1/2-next-to-each-other jumps in the map... >_> just pointing out how it doesn't fit the rest of map, but its fine for hard(er) diff
02:09:25 (10) - remove sliderslide whistle?
02:34:05 (5) - get rid of first whistle on slider? (whistle+clap mixed)

Not sure, but I don't think I like the whistle+custom chime hitsound mixes.... one of the two is enough, since both hitsounds are brought out in this song... or maybe it's just too much whistles o_o;

I type too much for little things
Topic Starter
alvisto

Shinxyn wrote:

:3
no bg yet~ No BG ? Hrmm... strange....

Beginner-
The beginning hitsounds got tiring to listen to cuz it just keeps going in the same pattern, but then again, its Beginner (easy)...
Ehh... good enough, the map gets kinda repeatative and boring, but leave that for doubletime~
Yea, Beginner = easy, yea, can't do much about it eh ? xD

Advanced-
01:08:05 (1,2,3) - with all the whistles around... was this little no-whistle gap on purpose? No, I forgot to put a whistle here. ;_;
02:43:04 - add note for the sake of breaking this long only-white-tick pattern (and to the music) Done. =D

Tearless Moscow-
00:22:04 - I assume the sliderslide sound is on purpose since the timing panel isn't custom... is it...? eh, anyways, if so, please lower volume so its kinda like 00:55:65 (6,7)'s? Yea, on purpose, so, I lowered it now. =P Done for Advanced too
01:01:45 (4,5,6) - hmm, these (this, 02:21:45 (4,5,6),and 02:36:65 (4,5,6)) have hitsounds, these- 01:07:85 (5,1,2) and 01:52:65 (7,8,9) don't, even though they sound pretty much the same, which is right? Orz, the latter 2 parts that you mentioned should have whistles with lower volume on them, Hence, fixed.
01:16:04 to 01:19:24 - no whistle gap? xD Missed that.
01:30:85 (1) - I don't think this sliderslide whistle was on purpose, since 01:32:45 (1) - doesn't have one, or should it? Lol, you have a great ear and eye ! Coz previosuly whistle slide was there for both sliders, but then I decided to remove them, and I forgot to remove this particular one. ;_; Thanks~
01:56:45 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - the only 1/2-next-to-each-other jumps in the map... >_> just pointing out how it doesn't fit the rest of map, but its fine for hard(er) diff Yea, you clearly expressed my doubt about this jump. I will keep this in mind since I myself also think it's kinda "ridiculous" jump. xD
02:09:25 (10) - remove sliderslide whistle? Done
02:34:05 (5) - get rid of first whistle on slider? (whistle+clap mixed) Yea, done ! =D

Not sure, but I don't think I like the whistle+custom chime It's triangle I believe ? xD hitsound mixes.... one of the two is enough, since both hitsounds are brought out in this song... or maybe it's just too much whistles o_o; EXACTLY my worry out there, coz my initial final product was virtually "whistle" less, but then I thought, Hrmmm...., let's try some whistles on ? In the end, I guess I had hitsound overdose hours ago until I was on whistle-mapping trance. Lol. I will sure keep this in mind, and then re-listen again some other day to see whether I still think it is suitable or it's disgusting. Right now, it stays on the middle for me.... xD

I type too much for little things I typed too much for little things too. ;_;
Thanks for the fast response, mod and feedback Shinxyn ! =D Appreciate it.
yaya
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Andrea
New "Detailed" modding style for help maps <3

You don't have to follow my post, remember there are not directions, but suggestions!

[File Checking...]

Background: No. (Have you added it? If yes, full submit again please.)
Source: No. (Find some source if possible.)
Tags: Yes.
File Size: 3,81MB/24,00MB

[Overall]

Timing: BPM: 150,00 - Offset: 4.456 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Difficulties]

[Beginner]

01:06:005 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:12:045 (1) - Don't silence this spinner. A finish hitsounds is better.

[Advanced]

01:13:025 (2,3) - Adjust this spacing.
02:15:005 (1) - Don't silence this spinner. A finish hitsounds is better.
03:03:025 (1) - Remove new combo.
03:04:045 (3) - New combo.
03:04:085 (1) - Remove new combo.

03:13:025 (1,2,3) - Unexpected change of spacing.

[Tearless Moscow]

02:07:025 (5) - New combo.
02:58:005 (5) - ^

03:13:025 (1,2,3) - Same as Advanced.
Topic Starter
alvisto

osu_CN_yaya wrote:

Tearless Moscow
00:22:05 (7) - slider结尾finish , 20%volume
00:38:85 (7) - slider结尾mute
01:04:05 (5) - no whistle
01:05:65 (3) - ^
01:07:25 (3) - ^ 以上的hitsound都跟了你的suggestion. ;p
01:19:65 (6) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1061 你的建议是不错,但是我觉得我的也是行得通,而且如果我照你的建议改的话,怕design会乱掉。 xD
01:23:25 (7) - 开头no whistle Remove 了,也remove了其他类似的地方。=D
01:26:35 - 加个note。因为图刚开始这样做的。同样的音乐下最好做成同样的节奏。 认同。加了。。。
01:46:45 (9) - slider结尾finish 认同。过后我还会再看看那里还可以加finish. xD

advance
-1 overall
00:28:45 (6) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1063 ignore placement 你的建议我是在tearless moscow difficulty那边用过了,所以不大想这边又再重复多一次pattern. =D
00:33:25 (2) - 结尾mute
01:04:05 (5,2,2) - no whistle
02:44:45 (1,2) - 两个结尾都用whistle
02:46:05 (1) - finish 这样好听了许多,谢谢!
02:55:65 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1064 好吧,就跟tearless moscow difficulty一样


貌似是高中时候的爱歌了。~ 是啊。。。。 xD 难道你之前有听过这首歌吗?
你的Map也越来越好了。 谢谢,我在学习和进步着,仍需要很多前辈的指导。
Thanks for your mod and comments Yaya. ^.^ Appreciate it.

osuplayer111 wrote:

]

Background: No. (Have you added it? If yes, full submit again please.) Yea, I will~ <3
Source: No. (Find some source if possible.)
Tags: Yes.
File Size: 3,81MB/24,00MB

[Overall]

Timing: BPM: 150,00 - Offset: 4.456 (Remember to resnap all notes.) Your offset sounds NICE ! I will use +6ms then... Thanks~

[Beginner]

01:06:005 (1) - Remove new combo. Done.
02:12:045 (1) - Don't silence this spinner. A finish hitsounds is better. Agree !

[Advanced]

01:13:025 (2,3) - Adjust this spacing. Done, I hope ? xD
02:15:005 (1) - Don't silence this spinner. A finish hitsounds is better. Agreed !
03:03:025 (1) - Remove new combo. Done.
03:04:045 (3) - New combo.
03:04:085 (1) - Remove new combo. Agreed !
03:13:025 (1,2,3) - Unexpected change of spacing. Hrmm.... I will keep that in mind for this because actually when you are playing, the notes are quite intuitive to play. ;p

[Tearless Moscow]

02:07:025 (5) - New combo. Done.
02:58:005 (5) - ^ Yea, ^.^
03:13:025 (1,2,3) - Same as Advanced.Same as Advanced.
Thanks for the mod osuplayer ! =D Nice mod ! ^.^
Kerensa
Normal:
01:39:650 [6] one tiny square to the right.
01:53:250 [1] ^ but up one.
02:27:650 [5] ^ to the left.

ADvanced:
00:26:456 [2]one tiny square up
02:10:856 [3] ^ down.
02:11:656 [6] ^ up.

Tearless:
02:07:650 [6]new combo?
02:50:850 [2,3,4]why so differnt D: same spacing pelase >_<;;
03:14:850 [3]one tiny square down.

WAHHH ~ i really liek this ~

star star star ~
Topic Starter
alvisto

haisha_ wrote:

Normal:
01:39:650 [6] one tiny square to the right. Done !
01:53:250 [1] ^ but up one. Done too !
02:27:650 [5] ^ to the left. xD This will distort the design, hence, a "no" here... :3

ADvanced:
00:26:456 [2]one tiny square up
02:10:856 [3] ^ down.
02:11:656 [6] ^ up.
All done. :3
Tearless:
02:07:650 [6]new combo? Yea, I start the new combo earlier actually.
02:50:850 [2,3,4]why so differnt D: same spacing pelase >_<;;
03:14:850 [3]one tiny square down.
All done.
WAHHH ~ i really liek this ~ WAHHH I am glad you like this... ^.^

star star star ~
Thanks for the mod Haisha ! =D
KIA
yay you!
:)
P.S. may be set bg with better quality?
alan_629_6
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Kytoxid
[General]

Delete the extra .osb. (might as well delete the other one too)
Consider using custom combo colours.
Set the background colour to black.

[Beginner]

01:53:025 (1,2,3,4,5) - Vertically flip the entire pattern, and center it?

Advanced and Tearless Moscow look nice. Star~
abalee
... 我想说的上面的都说了 >.>

00:22:05 (7) - @ Tearless Moscow : like shinxyn, i prefer this slider silent.

03:19:65 (1) - @ Tearless Moscow & Advanced : end on 03:22:85 (next white line)?

useless "05 (alvisto).osb" file in the folder orz

pretty good, star for sure
gdeath
All fine except extra osb file.
no kds ;)
star
Breeze
Can't download in school, so no mod, sorry :P

shoot a big star
Topic Starter
alvisto

alan_629_6 wrote:

U know la...

Beginner
00:44:045 (4,5,6) - incongruent to 00:42:085 (1,2,3)
02:00:005 (1,2,3,4,5) - should it be this way?
02:02:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this too XD

not bad!


Advance
00:34:085 (5) - elongate to here? or better without the sound
00:55:065 (6,7) - remove the finish sound?
00:58:005 (1) - add the finish sound here?
02:15:025 (1) - better move at this point. i think BAT will say again XD
03:14:085 (3) - may be the slider can slower a bit so that match to background music

nice!


Tearless Moscow
00:34:085 (5) - silent please
00:55:065 (6,7) - same as advance
01:22:085 (6) - design some pattern
02:42:085 (6) - ^
03:08:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ???
03:14:085 (3) - same as advance
03:19:065 (1) - should end in white tick?

excellent!!!

nice map. it will be the best if the singer and the song can be better XD
Gambatte kudasai!!!
Lol I know la. Btw, IRL discussion, several hitsound changes done after extensive experimentation. (Lol, so good for having a housemate who is also a mapper). Thanks for the mod bud.

Kytoxid wrote:

[Beginner]

01:53:025 (1,2,3,4,5) - Vertically flip the entire pattern, and center it?
Nice idea ! Used it... Thanks for the mod Kytoxid~

abalee wrote:

00:22:05 (7) - @ Tearless Moscow : like shinxyn, i prefer this slider silent.

03:19:65 (1) - @ Tearless Moscow & Advanced : end on 03:22:85 (next white line)?
I have tried silent slider body, sounds better, thus, changed.

And the last part of the song, I don't know whether I can do this or not, but I use 3/8 of the original BPM so that the slider and spinner speed feels like fitting to the music. Definitely need opinions on this. If any of you guys are re-reading this, can give me some opinion on it ? xD

Thanks for the mod abalee.

gdeath wrote:

All fine except extra osb file.
no kds ;)
star
Alright, can't believe I miss this one myself... xD Thanks gdeath for the star.

Breeze wrote:

Can't download in school, so no mod, sorry :P

shoot a big star
Thanks for the star ! ^.^
Alace
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
alvisto

Alace wrote:

pretty good~
Kudosu for IRC hitsound suggestions. Thanks Alace ! ^.^
jockeytiyan
Ehhh...you know Alvis, I really didn't want to mod your map because it's already good. So I'll just give out some suggestions.

I suggest that you get one hitsound from the map itself and make it louder for a bit such as this 00:17:065.


Beginner:

01:23:025 (5) - One more reverse arrow can do. ^^
01:45:045 (4) - Add a beat here.
01:56:005 (6) - ^
02:06:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I know this isn't your mapping style but can you align them? I'm not suggesting it actually, just giving out an idea that might turn out good.
02:44:045 (6) - Add a beat here.


Advanced:

01:07:065 (3) - Move 3 grids left and 5 grids up.
01:23:025 (7) - One more reverse arrow or add a beat on the white tick after this slider
01:50:005 (2) - The timing bar on this one should have a lesser volume. Return it to the previous volume after the slider.
03:19:065 (1) - You can end the spinner here 03:22:589


Tearless Moscow :'( (WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE TEARLESS?! T_T)

00:06:035 (3) - Remove this.
00:13:015 (2) - ^
01:26:035 (3) - ^
03:19:065 (1) - You can end the spinner here 03:22:589


I miss aniki...
Topic Starter
alvisto

jockeytiyan wrote:

Ehhh...you know Alvis, I really didn't want to mod your map because it's already good. So I'll just give out some suggestions. Suggestions are always welcomed ! ^.^

I suggest that you get one hitsound from the map itself and make it louder for a bit such as this 00:17:065. Hrm... that would be over-hitsounding. I am scared of hitsound overdose, lol.


Beginner:

01:23:025 (5) - One more reverse arrow can do. ^^ Nice suggestion. Used.
01:45:045 (4) - Add a beat here. No red tick notes for Beginner. ;p
01:56:005 (6) - ^ Nice suggestion. Used.
02:06:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I know this isn't your mapping style but can you align them? I'm not suggesting it actually, just giving out an idea that might turn out good. Intended, sorry... ;_;
02:44:045 (6) - Add a beat here. Added 1 more reverse with finish hitsound.


Advanced:

01:07:065 (3) - Move 3 grids left and 5 grids up. Move to somewhere else, seems crowded to me too. xD
01:23:025 (7) - One more reverse arrow or add a beat on the white tick after this slider Nice suggestion. Done
01:50:005 (2) - The timing bar on this one should have a lesser volume. Return it to the previous volume after the slider. Yea, agree.
03:19:065 (1) - You can end the spinner here 03:22:589 Yea, agree, betterer, done.


Tearless Moscow :'( (WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE TEARLESS?! T_T) Moscow is a place.

00:06:035 (3) - Remove this.
00:13:015 (2) - ^
01:26:035 (3) - ^ No for all the remove suggestions. xD
03:19:065 (1) - You can end the spinner here 03:22:589 Done too.


I miss aniki...
Thanks for the good mod~ Yea, miss him too. xD
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