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Suzuki Konomi - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size)

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Nyquill
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Nyquill
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on June-18-13 at 6:07:04 PM

Artist: Suzuki Konomi
Title: CHOIR JAIL (TV Size)
Source: Tasogare Otome x Amnesia
Tags: Magicphoenix merchat7
BPM: 181
Filesize: 14818kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (5 stars, 349 notes)
  2. merchat7's Easy (2.52 stars, 86 notes)
  3. MPX's Hard (4.92 stars, 170 notes)
  4. Normal (4.08 stars, 132 notes)
Download: Suzuki Konomi - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size)
Download: Suzuki Konomi - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Probably my last map with beziers.

Wait no theres one more, even older than this one.

JUNE 18th: AHURADURADURAHUR
Last edited by Nyquill , edited 51 times in total.
Saya-Honmei
Saya-Honmei
good map :)
Magicphoenix
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Magicphoenix
Hey, accepting guest diffs ? =w=

ED : In for the [Hard] then
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Nyquill
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Nyquill
Hard/Easy/ if you think you can make a better normal go for it.

Accepting taiko diffs too.
merchat7
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merchat7
Can I try making Easy? Looking at song, seem hard to make a good Easy since I can't just map this with curve and wave sliders, but with red points slider / unique slider arts so give me a couple of days.

if it's too hard for me, I'll tell you.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
yup, go for it
Magicphoenix
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Magicphoenix
still missing hitsounds, will finish them by this week i guess
hope you'll like it

Download: Konomi Suzuki - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (Nyquill) [MPX's Hard].osu
Magicphoenix
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Magicphoenix
Just the hitsound master delivering his tragedy
Btw, how about moving the Lead-In time to 1 second ?

Download: Konomi Suzuki - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (Nyquill) [MPX's Hard].osu
merchat7
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merchat7
Where is video :S I prefer mapping with the video as it help with ideas.

I'll wait for your reply on this before I continue mapping.
Nyquill
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Nyquill

merchat7 wrote:

Where is video :S I prefer mapping with the video as it help with ideas.

I'll wait for your reply on this before I continue mapping.
I guess it can't be helped then. I'll try to get the video.

>edit: ... and I'm absolutely terrible with videos. Ripping audio from episodes is fine and easy with foobar but I have no clue what to do for the video.
merchat7
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merchat7
http://puu.sh/uwAJ. 160 offset. I think there is watermark on top right, but too lazy to check whether other sub group has a video without watermark on top right (video was rip from UTW ep 5 video of this anime).

About my diff, sorry for being slow, I was planning to finish it today, but I had no motivation to map at all. I'll try to finish tomorrow hopefully. If not, feel free to make your own Easy.
Nyquill
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Nyquill
I believe that is just the broadcast station. Thank you so much ^^
merchat7
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merchat7
Sorry I have no more time left to work on this today, just 50% done. Well I attach the diff so you atleast see the process. Hitsound is taking a lot of my time for this map so that's why the process is so slow.

Since I manage to do 50%, I can probably finish tomorrow. Really sorry for the big delay, I usually finish guest diff really fast, but I've been busy lately and when I'm not, not in the mood for mapping :S

Download: Konomi Suzuki - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (Nyquill) [merchat7's Easy].osu
Nyquill
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Nyquill
Take your time mang, this is actually going a lot faster than a lot of my other mapsets.

(I still haven't secured a taiko yet, so ye)
merchat7
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merchat7
Hm, guess I'm done. Check the diff a few time and see no real problems.

A few things I notice. No kudosu
- Can you change Normal audio lead-in to 2000? It's 1996 right now
- Checked the timing points and it seem you kept to 45% volume for most of the song. I think it's better if you reconsider this and make it higher or lower for some parts as for some parts, hitsound feel too quiet for me.

I'll probably star when this get move to pending, but I consider hitsound to be a significant issue so I'll see your reply on this first and don't forget to add me to tags so I remember to check mods for this!

Download: Konomi Suzuki - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (Nyquill) [merchat7's Easy].osu
Nyquill
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Nyquill
yeah yeah boosted the hitsound volumes to 60% minimum.

Tags added, lead ins are all 1000 ms.
spboxer3
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spboxer3

:idea: general


  • Settings
    (For the setting/general issue.)
  1. looks all fine

merchat7's Easy


  • Settings
    (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  1. unused green line (It's not effect to player. but I suggest you should to remove it):
    00:48:031 -
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:05:600 (3) - [suggest] let the slider ball set at turning point on 00:05:849 - . like this↓.
    before
    after

    if you want use this pattern:
    64,320,5600,2,0,B|80:280|56:256|56:256|124:232|132:176,1,180,4|2
  2. 00:18:860 (1) - [arc issue] It's a kinda awkward for me. because it's not a rounded shape↓ .same as 00:20:186 (2,3,4) - etc.
    photo
  3. 00:33:943 (2) - [suggest] same as 00:05:600 (3) - issue
    photo

    if you want use this pattern:
    80,136,33943,2,0,B|88:172|64:200|64:200|116:244,1,135,4|4
  4. 01:01:291 (3,1) - It's awkward slider for me ~you can make the layout better~ like 01:05:269 (4) - 01:07:921 (3) - etc.
  5. 01:09:247 (4,5) - [suggest] let (4)'s slider head and turning point's spacing more relationa to 01:10:904 (5) - like ↓
    before
    after

    224,316,69247,2,0,B|248:276|296:264|296:264|296:232|296:168,2,180,4|0|4
    308,352,70904,2,0,B|404:352,2,90,0|8|0

Normal



  • Overlaps
    (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  1. 00:29:136 (4,5,2) -
  2. 01:18:860 (6,1) -
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 01:21:843 (7) - 這地方加NC吧 聽起來應該是斷落的開頭...

MPX's Hard



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:29:468 (1,2) - [arc issue] It's looks awkward slider arc because it's not coincidence arc to 00:29:965 (2) - I think you can make it layout better. ((e.g: move left 1 grid for 4th node (grid 3)?
  2. 01:02:285 (5,7) - 01:02:617 (6,1) - [nazi] let those full stack for this pattern. please let those full stack. It's can let this pattern look clean.
    photo

    327,99,62285,2,0,B|354:74|366:24,1,80,8|0
    304,172,62617,2,0,B|332:232|324:280|308:312|284:336,1,160,4|0
    226,214,63114,2,0,B|307:187|327:100,1,160,8|0
    381,153,63611,6,0,B|333:156|289:180,1,80
  3. 01:17:700 (1,2) - [notice] It's under the spinner text. It's will cause player confuse. so you should avoid it.

Insane



  • Hitsound
    (For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)
  1. 00:29:136 - 這地方的finish是故意做的嗎?? 可是說實話聽起來並不是很適合耶

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:08:750 (2,3,4) - [suggest] 想辦法把(4)送到中間去吧 不然後面的pattern (00:09:413 (4,6) - )就會有一邊overlaps但是一邊沒有的問題
  2. 00:17:700 (5,6) - [suggest] 這個是否作成對稱會好看些?
  3. 00:34:440 (16,1) - [nazi] 把這個作成stack吧 這地方stack可以讓圖看起來不會那麼粗糙...
  4. 01:23:832 (6) - [suggest]如果說前面的地方你作了NC 那我認為這個點也需要NC.


red is unrankable issue. bule is recommended to fix. Black is just suggestion.

that's all~ good luck~
Nichiyouki
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Nichiyouki


Hi, Nyquill

Your request from our modding queue

Red = Unrankable
Biue = You should modified
Black = My suggestion

General

  1. Change Audio Lead-In to 1500, because I think Audio Lead-In to 1000 is too fast.

merchat7's Easy

  1. 00:25:821 (1) - Move last point to up 3 grids
  2. 01:01:291 (3) - (nazi) Move to left 1 grid
  3. 01:07:258 (2) - Remove finish in slider begin?

Normal

  1. 00:24:164 (1) - Direction of slider is strange. Make to code below is better.
    312,276,24164,6,0,B|364:308|432:296,2,120,0|8|0
  2. 00:29:302 (5) - I feel strange here. Maybe remove a note be better.
  3. 00:34:109 (5) - It's overlap with (3). Player may surprise here.
  4. 00:34:772 (1) - Copy (2), then make to this.
    SPOILER
  5. 00:51:843 (4,5) - Move last point of (4) to x:352 y:308, and move (5) to 2 grids be better.
  6. 00:52:672 (6) - Same as 00:34:109 (5)
  7. 00:56:816 (2) - I feel strange as well. change to 1 circle at 00:56:982 be better.
  8. 01:10:573 (3) - Move to up 2 grids. If you're ok, don't forget to fix spacing between (3,4)
  9. 01:21:843 (7) - Add NC

MPX's Hard

  1. 00:00:297 - Add spinner? (Same as Easy diff)
  2. 00:11:899 (4) - Remove finish in slider end
  3. 00:17:866 (5) - Change slider to 2 circles?
  4. 00:52:672 (6) - It isn't likely to match the rhythm. Move slider end at 00:53:004.

Insane

  1. 00:29:136 (8,9,1) - It's spacing to 0.02x. Make (9,1) to stack (0.0x) with slider end of (8)
  2. 00:32:120 (7,1) - Here as well, it's spacing to 0.01x. Make (1) to stack (0.0x) with slider end of (7)
  3. 00:33:280 (11) - Add NC
  4. 00:34:772 (16,1) - Make to stack (0.0x) with slider end of (16)
  5. 00:54:993 - (Timing) Move at 00:55:324 be better.

That's all, that I can find them.

Good luck~
Nyquill
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nich95 wrote:

[*]01:10:573 (3) - Move to up 2 grids. If you're ok, don't forget to fix spacing between (3,4) rather have this stay
only thing out of everything that I did not do.

As for lead ins err................. maybe I'll do it later.
merchat7
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merchat7
spboxer3
SPOILER

spboxer3 wrote:

merchat7's Easy


  • Settings
    (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  1. unused green line (It's not effect to player. but I suggest you should to remove it):
    00:48:031 -     Done
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:05:600 (3) - [suggest] let the slider ball set at turning point on 00:05:849 - . like this↓. I use it, thanks
  2. 00:18:860 (1) - [arc issue] It's a kinda awkward for me. because it's not a rounded shape↓ .same as 00:20:186 (2,3,4) - etc. This is fine as I do not want to make a perfect slider here, I want to intentionally make it imperfect. Try to add some points to make this idea more clear.
  3. 00:33:943 (2) - [suggest] same as 00:05:600 (3) - issue I think my slider shape is fine here
  4. 01:01:291 (3,1) - It's awkward slider for me ~you can make the layout better~ like 01:05:269 (4) - 01:07:921 (3) - etc. Change a bit
  5. 01:09:247 (4,5) - [suggest] let (4)'s slider head and turning point's spacing more relationa to 01:10:904 (5) - like ↓ Prefer current slider shape

nich95
SPOILER

nich95 wrote:

General

  1. Change Audio Lead-In to 1500, because I think Audio Lead-In to 1000 is too fast. Normal wasn't changed so no change from me

merchat7's Easy

  1. 00:25:821 (1) - Move last point to up 3 grids Done and did some adjustment.
  2. 01:01:291 (3) - (nazi) Move to left 1 grid Hm, maybe I move it due to changes in earlier mod, but spacing become worse so keeping it as is. If you want me to do this to line up with (2) a bit better, I don't really want to line up stuff perfectly and want to leave stuff unsymmetrical or slightly off for these parts.
  3. 01:07:258 (2) - Remove finish in slider begin? Sound in music here make me feel like this need finish so keeping for now
Ty for mods

@Nyquill
Just update the map so I know there are new mods and I'll come check the mods when I have time.

Download: Konomi Suzuki - CHOIR JAIL (TV Size) (Nyquill) [merchat7's Easy].osu
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