Lumael wrote:

Hello!

[General]

• Timing:

1. BPM: OK!
2. Offset: OK!
   
   Folder:
3. BG: OK!
4. HS: OK!
5. LeadIn: Add some Audio LeadIn time on the diff file (around 1500~2000 should be enough) since the songs starts on the beginning of the mp3 Sure
   
   Other Stuff:
6. Combo Color: In general they are too strong and they don't fit the background. Example, what this bright yellow has with the background? I also don't really sure about the CC, probably will change it later
7. Song Setup: Change Source to "シャーロット" and add "Charllote" to tags Nah, in the official website it's written in Romanji, correct me if I wrong tho
8. General AiMod: Clear~

[Insane]

1. 00:01:212 (2,3) - Create a small jump here instead of using the same DS of 00:01:412 (3,4) - Nah, after stopping at 00:01:212 (2) - movement between 2 and 3 has already far enough
2. 00:22:412 (5,6,7,8) - Making DS shortter from 00:22:412 (5) - to 00:22:612 (6) - doesn't make too much sense, maybe stack the tripplet on 00:22:212 (4) - and them reajust the spacing to 00:23:012 (1) - accordinly? I like it as how it is, but I'll think about that
3. 00:25:012 (1,2) - Well I am not sure if this can be considered a jump but I recommend you to lower DS here because this doesn't ask a jump Well, this is not a jump afterall
4. 00:29:012 (3,4) - Shorten DS here, jump is random There's enough beat to be emphazised here
5. 00:31:212 (7,1) - Increase it here, clap on 00:31:412 (1) - need to be emphasized a bit more After the triplets, backward movement provides enough emphasize imo
6. 00:35:212 (6,7,8,9) - Such a huge jump omg, consider reducing it, the song stills at the same tone no prob
7. 00:41:812 (2,3) - Shorten DS here so it will be smaller than 00:41:612 (1,2) - , also increase the last one I linked a bit, the rhythm really asks for a jump Tweaking this pattern could makes it fell more unnatrual to play to be honest. So i'll keep it as it is now
8. 00:44:412 (1,2) - Control G to make jump more sensible, also adjust spacing with 00:44:812 (1) - accordinly I'll think about this
9. 00:45:212 (3,1) - Jump here, lower DS here feels completely random to play This is the transition between the beats and vocal, so i think its alright
10. 00:46:812 (4,1) - ^^
11. 00:47:412 (2,3) - ^^
12. 00:54:212 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is too Hard, in fact, 00:48:612 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - all this section is the hardest part of the song for now. This singletapping section is too hard for the calm rhythm on the background, consider making it much more easier, it's even harder than the kiai It's 150bpm so i think, besides of the pattern (I have to admit, quite complicated) that would be no problem especially at this AR that considered to be pretty high for 150bpm. Also, I want this part of the music to be the "main star" of the map. So, i'm not changing anything for now at least
13. 01:03:212 (4,1,2,3) - Reduce this jump, it's too huge xd Uhh~, I'll think about that
14. 01:10:812 (3,1) - Increase DS here to make a jump Nah
15. 01:12:412 (4,1) - ^^
16. 01:13:212 (4,1) - ^^
17. 01:14:812 (2,3) - ^, additionally this pattern is a bit awkward imo I have to admit, this is quite awkward. Probably I'll change it
18. 01:36:212 (4,1) - ^^
19. 01:40:412 (2,3) - ^^
20. 02:21:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - again singletapping insanely hard pattern :3 Same as before ^
21. 02:34:212 (4) - Add NC here cuz it is the start of the kiai! In fact, all the NC is too random on this map.. I recommend you redoing it adding NC every 4/1 beat, that means every "taller white tick" Yeah, I realized about how random my NC on this map. But I think it's still appropriate for sake of readability Fixed the NC on this btw
22. 02:36:412 (4,4) - Minor: tiny overlap that you may want to fix o
23. 03:02:412 (4,5) - Increase DS here to emphasize 03:02:612 (5) - Nope~
24. 03:07:212 (4,5) - ^^
25. 03:07:812 (1,2) - ^^
26. 03:09:012 (4,1) - ^^
27. 03:10:612 (4,5) - Move this to another location, too weird to play them stacked with 03:10:412 (3) - . Generally stacking more than 2 circles plays very awkward I'll think about it
28. 03:11:012 (1,2) - Make jump here to emphasize clap on 03:11:412 (2) - Kay
29. 03:11:812 (3,4) - ^ It's enough imo
30. 03:12:212 (4,1) - ^ to emphasize change on the song same ^
31. 03:13:212 (2,3) - ^ but keep the same spacing or near with 03:14:212 (1) - ^
32. 03:14:612 (2,3) - You can have a jump here but a smaller one :3 A, I think this one is okay :3
33. 03:16:212 (2,3) - This jump feels completely random imo, there's nothing to be emphasized with it Reduced slightly
34. 03:16:812 (5,6) - Increase DS here a bit because 03:17:012 (6) - should be emphasized :3 It's enough for emphasize
35. 03:43:012 (1,2,3) - Doesn't make sense to have higher DS at 03:43:412 (2,3) - instead of 03:43:012 (1,2) - Again, this comes down to playability. It much more natural to have bigger jumps facing downward instead of horizontally. And I think, I believe that this one 03:43:412 (2,3) - need more emphazise than the other one
36. 03:45:412 (4,1) - Increase DS here a bit No
37. 03:59:212 (2,3) - Shorten DS here a bit, nothing too strong to be emphasized with a 2x DS jump xD This movement really is not as far as it lookas
38. 04:01:212 (4,5,1) - Move this to the white tick, plays badly, additionaly you should almost ever place 1/2 sliders starting on the white tick, one or two may be an exception but don't make a pattern full of them. You need to emphasize strong beats at 04:01:812 - and 04:02:212 - but they aren't clickable because they're on the tail of the slider! There's really nothing to be mapped on the white tick beyond this part. I'm following the "background music" here since they're more audible than the drums
39. 04:03:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 1/1 circles then 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - hyper hard singletapping pattern lol, this one feels much more random because you started with some 1/1 circles, which sounded good imo, but you spammed 1/2 circles everwhere with some weird jump again D:. I recommend making patterns like 04:03:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - before the 3 kiais, but maybe with smaller jumps Spamming 1/1 circles at all of 3 section on this map will make it bland and boring to play to be honest. I put 1/1 circles here for the sake of variaton and "resting your left finger"

The biggest (and probably the only one that makes this map kinda far from ranking) re the jumps, you need to look for which beats are strongs and usually it's where you should increase the DS. Good luck, map is good overall! Don't forget to vote on my Poll
Sorry, If I rejected most of your mod The thing is, it looks like your point of view on this song is really different to me. So, some of your suggestion is not even in my consideration in the first place since (again) our view on mapping is different. Anyway thanks for your effort in modding my map tho

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

Hello~ NM as requested in my queue~
Disclaimer : My mod will be something similar to Lumael's (above), be ready o.o

1. Unrankable issues
2. My opinion which I highly recommend changing it
3. Just small suggestions/nazi (sometimes may be important)

[General]

1. I feel that the combo colours are really strong, especially that bright yellow one. Don't really see how this fits into the BG/anime/w/e.
2. All looks fine other than that.

[Insane]

1. First up, try to change the difficulty name. 'Marathon' would fit, but something that is related to the anime (something like 'Charlotte') would fit too.
2. Not going to list all the things I've found, there may be same issues throughout the map. I'll add it to the tags instead
3. 00:01:812 (4) - This slider really breaks the flow off. When the previous slider was a curve, using a straight slider here doesn't feel natural. Copying (3) and rotating the copied slider 180 degrees would make more sense. sure, no big deal
4. 00:06:612 (3) - Remove the clap here, the drum is not present here. This clap is needed imo
5. 00:09:012 (2,3,6) - Jump on (2) and (3) makes sense due to the piano in the background, but (6) doesn't, there are no instruments matching (6). Since the piano is pretty insignificant, remove the jump at (2) to (3), in order to make a better pattern towards (6). I'll think about it, for now no change
6. 00:11:812 (1,2,3) - I don't really see the shape of pattern in this... Slider shape for (1) should be copied from either (2) or (3), making a triangle. It's not really a pattern tho, just rotating several sliders
7. 00:20:412 (2) - No definite or strong beat present on the head of this slider, removing the jump will be better. I don't think this one could be called a jump
8. 00:24:712 (6) - No instrument justifies this note, should be removed. Ehh, I'll think about it
9. 00:26:212 (4,1) - Pattern will be more neater if these sliders had the same shape. I made change
10. 00:28:612 (2) - Instrument here isn't strong enough for a 1.8x jump. This pattern is following the flow, so I see no problems using it
11. 00:48:612 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This is the most hardest part of the map lol, while all others are varied by using sliders, this however only has 1 slider in the whole pattern. This is the most calm part of the song, and even though it is 150 bpm, it is still pretty hard ;-; 1/2 sliders with small jumps between them works a lot better than this. Well, same reasons as my reply on Lumael's mod above xD ^
12. 01:03:612 (1) - The DS here is way toooo big, this beat is even weaker than 01:04:012 (4) - . slightly tweaked
13. 01:32:112 - There is a violin here that you've left out when you were mapping to it, it would be better if you used a stream instead of 3 kick sliders. I don't want to fill out this part with streams
14. 01:33:412 (1,2,3) - I don't get the meaning of this pattern. While all others are spaced, this however, I don't see a special reason why are these not spaced too. I don't know the terminology, but based on the background music I think this one is still okay
15. 01:57:512 (2) - This note doesn't have a beat or instrument on it. Just like above, removing this note would be nice. Actually, I'm suing it to emphasize the vocal somehow. But idk, I may change this
16. 01:59:612 (2) - Don't see why you've reduced distance here. Increased
17. 02:07:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not sure, but all the double stacks are going to throw players off at (7), (8) and (9), since it is a triple. You could try to be bit more creative and make little jumps between those doubles, so that the triplet won't be that confusing to read. I'll try to play around with it later
18. 02:21:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Well again the hard part. ^^^
19. 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Tornado pattern in Insane? That is going way too overboard o.o In fact this section too, is really hard ;-; I'm not really sure about this either. I'll keep it for now
20. 04:13:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This jump though, it is way too big. Comparing the previous sections, this section also has the same strength, so don't see why the jump suddenly gets bigger here I have no reason to oppose this. but I don't have any reason to change this either xP
21. 04:44:412 (3,4,5) - I don't see why is the triplet here isn't stacked, IMO it doesn't play out well since the flow was going to the left instead of going down. stacked
22. Didn't mention any of the NCs, they are very inconsistent even by the means of readability. Like what Lumael has mentioned, NCs should be on every big white tick, or every 2 big white ticks. I'll fix it
23. Overall, I feel that most jumps are unnecessary/not fitting to the song, even if you wanted to go for pattern. The map would play out better, and feel much more natural when the jumps are on strong beats. I guess the map is still okay, just that the jumps were bit weird to me.

That is all from me. GL!

Synpoo wrote:

hi, from my q

Insane

When are you gonna change the colors xd I'm really indecisive about CC, so yeah
I strongly disagree with your comboing throughout this map. A lot of it doesn't make sense rhythmically like here 00:25:012 (1) - this should be NC as a new string instrument is introduced (you even map it with the triplet), 00:26:212 (4) - this should also be a NC and not 00:27:012 (1) - , 00:27:812 (4) - NC should be here as well, and yeah, the whole map needs proper comboing. Stick to keeping new combos on the large white ticks for a map with a straightforward rhythm like this one. I'll fix it

1. 00:04:812 (3,4) - Swap these on the timeline so the slider starts on the correct (strong) beat I'll think about it
2. 00:28:212 (1,2) - Aesthetically, patterns like this look better when they're on a closer angle rather than one being a lot more angled than the other
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 00:33:212 (2,3) - What's with the small spacing here make it larger
4. 00:45:212 (3,1) - ^ transition to vocal
5. 00:48:612 - Hmm...these 1/2 singles last way too long even for an insane of this star rating, a lot of these vocals can be represented using sliders anyways Same reply as Lumael and Sc4v4ng3r
6. 01:03:212 (4,1,2,3) - That jump xd Tweaked
7. 01:09:012 (3) - Nah, don't end this where one of the strongest vocals in this chorus begins, this slider does not even follow anything It's okay
8. 01:14:812 (2,3) - (3) needs emphasis similar to (2). not less Changes this whole pattern
9. 01:21:812 (3) - Same thing about this slider, don't end it on this strong vocal lol ^
10. 01:31:412 (3,4,5,1) - Missed some notes on the blue ticks I don't want to fill all 1/4 pattern here
11. 01:57:212 (1) - Another passive slider ye
12. 02:09:012 (2) - Better as two circle to properly emphasize the vocal on the red tick variation
13. 02:14:412 (4) - Passive slider ye
14. 02:15:012 (1,2,3) - This triple doesn't make sense, the held vocal starts on the white beat, and there's only an actual note on the blue tick at 02:15:312 Uh, oh
15. 02:21:412 - Yay more endless singles and the hardest part of the map in the calmest section of the song yay
16. 02:43:612 (7,1) - Overlaps like this are bad Yeah
17. 02:58:912 - Missed this part of the drums Intentional, I just don't want to fill this up with one hecak of a long stream
18. 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Difficulty spike, potentially unrankable as QATs dislike that hmm

Anyway I'll stop there because the same issues of passive sliders, misplaced triples, and misused jumps arise throughout 02:59:812 to the end of the map (especially during kiai times), so you can just keep what I said in mind and check these problems yourself instead of me repeating myself for no reason.

MrSergio wrote:

Alright, let's see then.
First, here's the log (just in case you forgot something or whatever xD)
I remove this for my reply

And here is the rest of it :3

[Insane]

1. {General} First of all, now that I notice, you should change the name of this diff to "Marathon", or add it into tags (but I suggest using it as the name for the diff) Added to tags, I'm still looking for custom diffnames
2. 02:43:612 (7,1) - {Aesthetics} This overlap is a bit... you know... that xD Yea
3. 03:17:012 (6) - {Pattern} Seeing the hitsound on the head, I'd do a Ctrl + J on it and move the head on top of 03:16:412 (3) - Ahh, I like it how it is actually
4. 03:09:012 (4) - {Aesthetics} Why this is the only straight slider among this combo? All the others are curved somehow For no obvious reason, I just want this to be straight ._.
5. 03:10:412 (3,4,5) - {Pattern} I'd suggest to create a triangle using these circles. Keep 3 where it is and make it go clockwise, like this Okay
6. 03:20:212 (4) - {Hitsound} Missing normal whistle on the end of this slider k
7. 03:23:812 (3) - {Hitosund} Turn the soft whistle on the head of this into a normal whistle to make it match with above suggestion ^^
8. 03:27:612 (1) - {Hitsound} Switch the normal whistle from the head to the tail of this slider ^
9. 03:30:212 (1) - {Flow} I'd put like a drop on this slider since there is a high pitch vocal on its head. My suggestion is to move a bit 03:29:812 (4,5) - around without stacking them again I don't really get your point and I think I want to keep it
10. 03:36:212 (5,1) - {Aesthetics} These 2 are really too close imo. You used a blanket for 03:35:612 (2,5) - and another blanket for 03:36:612 (1,2) - , but the 2 I highlighted are just there for nothing lol. See if you can give this a better shape/reasoning It's actually blanketed , I change it a bit anyway
11. 03:46:212 - {Flow} I'd add a circle at around 352:28, then I'd do a ctrl + G on 03:46:012 (2,3) - (I added the new circle to make this link) and remove the NC on 03:46:412 (1) - since it's pretty useless for a single object, right? As for the first 2 suggestions, they are just there to cover the background sounds of the music and to not let the player get bored while waiting there I kinda like this "silent moment" and I dont think player will get bored waiting for a split second here
12. 03:47:412 (2,3,4) - {Pattern} I do not hear the triplet at all in the music so remove the central note. Also, keeping those circles stacked it's another waste of rhythm, so try to create a drop on 03:47:812 (1) - using 03:47:412 (2,4) - Actually I'm not a big fan of putting circles. I'll think about this
13. 03:50:412 (5,6,7) - {Flow} Do you remember what we talked in PM about slider + triplet at the end? This is one of those I think I want to keep this
14. 03:51:012 (1,2,3) - {Pattern} 03:52:212 (3) - is kinda wasted as it is, so what about creating a giant triangle using all the sliders? Like this maybe To be honest, my ocd part of me wouldn't let me make those pattern xP
15. 03:55:412 (3,1) - {Flow} I'd rather use the same pattern you used for 03:56:012 (2,3) - , so maybe move 03:55:412 (3) - at around 400:8 Nah, I like it
16. 04:03:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - {Pattern} There is a huge difference between this and 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . Imo you should use 1/2 notes constantly for all this part and use the DS to give a different feeling for those different parts you created I'll think about it
17. 04:15:012 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - {Flow} First, why do you use NCs every 2 notes? Second, why the spacing between 04:15:212 (2,1) - is small, while the spacing between 04:15:612 (2,1) - is more large? (The second spacing is fine imo) I guess that a square pattern can work well here Basically, I'm following both vocal and guitar(or whatever the part of the music is) here, The vocal allow me to put smaller spacing there, On my point of view of the song at least
18. 04:35:712 (8) - {Pattern} This circle isn't necessary, because it ruins the finish on 04:35:812 (9) - . You should remove 8 and move 9 somewhere else from there I kinda disagree, removing the circle would make it sound empty
19. 04:36:012 (1) - {Hitosund} Do you need this soft whistle? I'm not sure, removed
20. 04:38:412 (1) - {Pattern} One (among the many) useless NC here ^
21. 04:41:412 (1) - {Pattern} This should be stacked under the previous stack for a better start of the stream Sure
22. 04:41:612 (3) - {Hitsound} What about turning this normal whistle into a soft clap? nice one
23. 04:57:612 (1,2) - {Flow} Maybe a Ctrl + G here? Eh? No
24. 05:01:412 (1,2,3) - {Pattern} Same as for 03:51:012 (1,2,3) - but this time I guess it is fine yea
25. 05:14:212 (4) - {Flow} This tiny jump is practically a rhythm killer. Move it more far away: all the combo has a higher DS too increased

[General]

1. Even if it is related to this anime, I guess that tags like "Jun Maeda" (author of the story) or "Key" (visual novel production agency linked to the designer of the anime) are way too generic to be put. "P.A. Works" should be fine and if you keep it you should also add "Aniplex" (producer) Basically, Im just following this ranked version's tags
2. Do you hate AR9? xD Not really, just think that AR 9 is too fast for this bpm
3. Your BG size isn't one of the recommended ones. Here's a 1366x768 version: Ah, okay~ http://puu.sh/k0CWq/3c7c8dd4fe.jpg

That's all, good luck ~
Btw, try to make your NCs more consistent, since you seem to use them a bit randomly here and there

19:58 Yohanes: Fort~
19:58 Fort: hai yaldo
19:58 Yohanes: rikues mod dong...
19:58 Yohanes: bole?
19:58 Fort: kemaleman ini
19:58 Fort: wkwkwk
19:58 Fort: ane ngantuk
19:59 Yohanes: :3
19:59 Yohanes: besok boleh kalo mau...
19:59 Yohanes: kwkwkw
19:59 Fort: iya boleh
19:59 Yohanes: btw, ini map nya
19:59 *Yohanes is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/769831 Lia - Bravely You [Insane]]
20:00 Yohanes: btw, irc atau forum post?
20:01 Fort: ah~
20:01 Fort: oke lah sekarang aja
20:01 Fort: dling
20:01 Yohanes: woo, oke..
20:04 Fort: ih gila
20:05 Fort: download 2 kali gk masuk" ini map
20:05 Yohanes: edan
20:05 Yohanes: lah emang kenapa?
20:06 Fort: pantesan
20:06 Fort: memori tinggal 2mb lagi wkwkwk
20:06 Yohanes: oo
20:06 Yohanes: ._.
20:07 *Fort is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/769831 Lia - Bravely You [Insane]]
20:07 Fort: map nya bagus
20:07 Fort: tinggal kau kasih pertanyaan aja ke ane
20:08 Yohanes: ahah, thanks
20:08 Yohanes: umm, bentar
20:09 Yohanes: 04:03:812 - bagian ini kan beda di bandingin 02:21:412 - & 00:48:612 -
20:09 Yohanes: menurut ku gimana? ada yg bilang itu nggak bagus buat konsistensi
20:09 Yohanes: kau
20:09 Yohanes: *ada yg bilang = asphyxia
20:10 Fort:  menurut ane itu transisi patterning yang bisa dibilang cukup lumayan buat patterning sebelum kiai time
20:10 Fort: soalnya ritme disini lumayan susah kalau misalnya pattern sebelumnya dikasih 1/2 beat
20:11 Fort: sama sedikit variasi juga bikin map ini menarik, jadi gpp kok
20:11 Yohanes: hmm, okelah~
20:11 Yohanes: Oiya, NC!
20:11 Yohanes: Nc nya gimana?
20:12 Yohanes: aku lebih fokus nc biar patternnya lebih readable soalnya
20:12 Fort: sebenarnya ane kurang suka kalau ane bikin pattern selain di downbeat atau garis putih
20:12 Fort: bikin pattern NC gitu
20:13 Yohanes: ane nggak merhatiin kaya begitu waktu mapping ._.
20:13 Fort: kelihatannya kecampur NC nya
20:13 Fort: ya kadang ada di downbeat
20:13 Fort: kadang combo yg harus nya di downbeat malah di geser sedikit
20:14 Yohanes: hmm, so what should I do now?
20:15 Fort: do nothing
20:15 Fort: cuma percaya aja combo yg kau kasih itu bisa bermanfaat di gameplay lel
20:15 Yohanes: ah, alright..
20:15 Yohanes: I hope so
20:16 Fort: ya sebenarnya ane gk ada masalah sama combo
20:16 Fort: selama masih ada alasan yg bisa dibuat
20:16 Fort: you can keep it
20:16 Yohanes: pattern ini gimana menurutmu? 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
20:16 Yohanes: overkill or not?
20:16 Fort: EZ
20:17 Fort: justru pattern star lebih gampang dibanding straight flow
20:17 Yohanes: lol ok
20:17 Fort: maksud ane kaya gini 02:29:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 
20:17 Fort: susah nya minta ampun kalau high bpm/di DT
20:18 Yohanes: yeah, i know
20:18 Fort: sama klo pakai mouse suka Mouse drift lel
20:18 Yohanes: untunglah ini cuma 150
20:18 Fort: oke lah
20:18 Yohanes: btw, kau mainnya mouse only ya fort?
20:18 Fort: ada lagi yg mau ditanyain?
20:19 Fort: iya ane mouse only, sekarang udah gk niat main lagi
20:19 Yohanes: kayanya udah gak ada deh...
20:19 Yohanes: bingung mau nanya apa lel ._.
20:19 Yohanes: pake mouse apa?
20:19 Fort: ya berarti map mu sudah
20:19 Fort: ~Sempurna~
20:19 Fort: lel
20:20 Yohanes: okelah, thanks fort...
20:20 Fort: dan
20:20 Fort: tunggu dulu
20:21 Fort: ane kasih 1 catatan buat ini pattern
20:21 Fort: 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
20:21 *Yohanes turn back
20:21 Fort: mungkin kalau pattern ini bisa ditambahin lagi distance nya bisa bikin ini map jadi lebih konsistenlagi
20:21 Fort: soalnya
20:21 Fort: 04:12:612 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - perbandingan jump disini lumayan gede
20:22 Fort: 04:16:212 (1,2) - mungkin jarak segini bisa nyeimbangin flowmap nya
20:23 Yohanes: hmm oke, I'll consider that
20:23 Yohanes: mungkin ada lagi?
20:23 Fort: 04:55:812 (4,2) - keliatan kurang rapi tapi terserah kau lah ini slider mau diapain
20:24 Yohanes: 04:55:812 (4) - ane tweak dikit
20:25 Fort: 01:27:612 (1) - ini combonya kurang enak deh
20:25 Fort: mending disini 01:27:012 (4) - 
20:25 Fort: 01:26:412 (1) - delet nc
20:25 Yohanes: ok
20:26 Fort: udah dulu deh
20:26 Fort: sampai segitu aja
20:26 Fort: post?
20:26 Fort: y/n?
20:27 Yohanes: yeessss
20:27 Yohanes: I need sp lol

walaowey wrote:

Hi there, from my queue

alright the mod's here

Insane
00:00:612 until 00:07:012 - the whistle in this part feels random.. .. are you following the piano sound here? ..but if you are following the piano sound, then you're missing some of them (actually i try to add whistle based on the piano sound..its nice imo :3 Putting whistles on every piano sounds seems overkill imo, but I added some more whistles on this part
00:02:412 (2,3) - whistles
00:03:212 (5) - ^
00:03:812 (1) - ^
00:04:812 (3) - ^
00:05:212 (4) - ^
You can try them out if you want

00:32:012 (1,2,3) - the emphasizes are not that good here.. i think its better if u add some jump from (1) -> (2) for emphasizes as (2) has stronger beats.. and reduce the jump from (2) -> (3) because (3) dont need any emphasizes because it is a weak beats Ahh, I get your point. But I don't feel like to change this pattern, at least for now...
00:32:612 (1) - jump for this to emphasizes the strong beats ^
00:33:412 (3) - ^ When playing, bigger spacing feels odd imo
00:35:812 (1) - i think you should make a bigger jump here because of the strong beats instead of 00:36:612 (3) - which has weaker beats Fixed slightly
00:41:012 (4) - its cool if you can blanket this with 00:40:612 (1,2,3) - ..i know it will mess up the pattern for 00:39:812 (3) with this .. but it is quite obvious that the blanket is off At first, I blanket this but then I realize that the blanket decrease actual playability, so I'll keep it
00:45:012 (3,4,1) - bigger spacing for (4) -> (1) instead of (3) -> (4) lol.. 00:45:412 (1) - need more emphasizes Changed
00:48:612 - 01:01:012 - lol those hexagons <3 my favourite... but fix these 00:51:412 (3) , 01:00:212 (1) .. the current position cause the hexagon shape to be off lel.. Crap, I didn't notice that. fixed
00:49:812 (1) , 00:51:812 (1) , 00:56:612 (3) , - strong beat here..its cool if you add jump here I don't want to re-did this pattern
00:55:412 (3) - this should have bigger jump because of the strong beats to emphasizes it compare to 00:55:612 (1) ^
00:56:612 (3) - NC this? .. Nah, too many NC's already
01:05:412 (1,2) - i dont quite like how this is flowing ..the curving of the slider suggest the flow going to left side, but instead it is on right lol..consider to change it? I'll think about it
01:09:412 - imo, slider end was not good enough to emphasize the strong beats.. maybe shorten the slider and place a circle/slider here? I think this is okay
01:11:012 (1) - jump?..emphasizes the strong beat I didn't find any neat place to place the jumps but I think this one is alright too
01:13:812 (3,4,5,6,1) - the curving should be invert lol..it feels a bit awkward now *Click* (suggestion,fix it your own way ) Okay
01:15:012 (3,5) - blanket? No, that's fine
01:27:012 (1) - bigger jump? Actual spacing when playing is quite a lot bigger that it looks
01:28:612 - its a strong beat..not suitable for slider end imo I'm following the instrument here, and I don't want to use 3/4 slider
01:30:212 - NC? No
01:54:212 - u miss a strong beat here lol..consider to fix it >w< I totally didn't notice this beat, it's not a big deal imo
01:58:612 (6) - blanket this with 01:57:612 (3) ? Blanket it even further will make it looks kinda funny lol
02:00:612 (1,2,3) - its not a good idea to have circles/triplets hiding under the tail of a previous slider..its very trolling lol.. I've testplay your map with HD on..and i miss this part because i didnt notice that triplets there..imo, its maybe fine for higher ranked player, but not for lower ranked player I'll think about that, no change now
02:05:412 (1,2) - blanket?..neater ..better
03:09:412 (1), 03:12:612 (1) , 03:25:412 (2) - jump more? ..its not enough emphasizes now Hmm, I don't think I want to change this. But I'll consider it anyway
03:20:612 - strong beat here..consider to change it..its not suitable to have slider tail on such strong beats Ok
03:26:012 (2) - the jump from the previous circle to this slider was too big imo, it is on a red tick which only have weak sounds..its better to have low spacing on such weak beats. Idk about this, but I'm gonna levae it for now
03:35:012 (1) - its cool to make a jump here .. it goes well with the strong beats and the strong vocals too Current one sems fine imo
03:46:212 - miss something here? No, I don't
04:23:012 (1) - jump more >w< ..neeed more emphasizes Tweaked very slightly
04:28:812 (6) - this is a weak beats too, the jump suppose to be from (4) -> (5) ... not (5) -> (6) Eeeee, no change for now ._.
04:35:412(5,6,7,8,9) - dont stack this? ..because this is the only part that u stack 5 circles together in your map lol..for consistency, consider to unstack them I kinda like this pattern but idk. No change atm
04:40:812 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - lol tbh, i dont hear any sound for most of the blue ticks :/ except the last 5 notes only.. i want to catch the sound of the electric guitar(I guess?) here so, I make it as a stream

actually, some of your jumps are nice...but sometimes you jump on the wrong beats, i mean sometimes you make jump at a weak beats instead of a strong beats :3

And... i think your NC are quite weird..it feels like your following the vocal to NC? Pattern actually

Anyway, thats all from me,
Good luck ranking this map

Ipas wrote:

Woah, your request is here
I'm not sure about my suggestion, since you almost reject things in couple mods above I'm quite stubborn so yeah xP

[General]

1. Looks clean ~ Ah, for the custom diff name, "Love" is nice (Spontaneity, I don't know what is the correlative behind Love with the anime it self ) I found some words I believe that would fit well

[Insane]

1. 00:03:812 (1) - Would enlarge the spacing here a bit, to represents more the piano sounds here, since it's being the most important sound over the section here . Same goes for 00:04:412 (2) - , 00:06:012 (2) - Well, I don't want to change this section
2. 00:04:812 (3,4) - The pattern doesn't works well for me, since the pianos rather loud evenly over them, and would be nice having them consecutively get more reliable rhythm, with more emphasis . Change these two into circles for each of their position would nice to give the right emphasis I remember that Synpoo state almost the same thing few weeks ago, so I change it
3. 00:11:412 (3) - A slight movement to this circle would be nice to interpret how the rhythm works here (Realize it yourself to the another similar rhythm and placement, maybe like 00:14:612 (3) - , for fixing it evenly over the map) Ah, I like this "circle hidden behind slider" thing
4. 00:16:212 (6) - Such a pity for this circle doesn't have a larger spacing, while the other with the lower sound/beat have it, since this circle interpret the rather loud beat here I've been thinking about changing this since long ago, thanks for the push
5. 00:22:612 (6) - Enlarge the spacing please, it's really capable to make it yep
6. 00:30:012 (2,3) - I don't feel right about the stack . It would slight interfere our visual for readability over the object, and could make some misread in my opinion . It's fine tho, just mentioning if you're not okay too for this ahahah, no change
7. 00:32:212 (2,3) - Switch the jump flow between these two please . The (2) gets more of beat at the moment (piano and drum), which can make it weird for not having a large spacing to it (for better emphasis), since there's nothing important at (3) I change this, but the spacing between 2 -> 3 are increased as well for better playability
8. 00:48:612 - The claps on couple circles start from this timestamp, really feels out of place for me . Would rather leave them only witth whistles than the claps (This is apply to all similar section as well) . Also, I can't figure the new combo measurement, they feel random for me I kinda like the sound of the clap in this section, and yes the NC are quite random
9. 00:59:812 (1,1,1,1) - Consider to use additional drum-hitclap for them, it might suits well (It's apply to similar section as well) No, too much work
10. 01:48:712 (4) - It's just me or anything, I can't feel any sound here, would rather to delete the circle changed
11. 03:02:612 (5) - A jump to this circle would be fits as well, since the beat rather loud and necessary to make it ^
12. 03:06:212 (1) - Same as suggestion above, even this beat now really significant over the section, and should have more emphasis than the other to make it works well with the comparison with the other ^
13. 03:25:012 (5) - Same as 2 point above (Seems they will be very major in this map, would rather if you can fix it and realize it yourself) ^
14. 03:26:412 (1) - Since you sometimes treat vocals as a main beat of your rhythm pattern, this object placed too close from the previous object, because the vocals getting louder here ^
15. 05:19:612 (2) - Play those beat at each end of the slider body as a circles might be work as well, as the piano rather loud and needs some of articular emphasis at the moment Yeah, I keep this

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The map is nice, it's almost ready for me . My main concern is only on spacing and new combo measurement . Sometimes, they feel likely placed randomly (both of spacing and measurement) . For spacing, randomly means you often to put in some objects with a far/close distance than it must be, since there are more of emphasized beats that capable to make it, which could make more nice comparison to the map itself . You can take a look onto them, to make a decision yourself to give necessary changes
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That's all from me, Good Luck!
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EDIT
I think something...

1. 00:48:612 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - As people stated above, yeah after lot of thoughts, I guess it isn't fine to make this part being your "main star", because it's really most calm parts on the song . I couldn't argue if it's have more intense rhythm . Hm, maybe I strongly recommend you to reduce the usage of the jumps . Make it like this 00:57:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1) - really feels comfortable to play than those jumps . The another suggestion is increasing the usage of 1/2 sliders, instead of reducing the jump I guess you should know what will I say about this and actually, in my opinion while playing, the straight part like this 00:57:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1) - is more difficult than bidirectional jumps like this 00:48:612 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
2. 02:21:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - They're even feel more harder than the previous one . Quite uncomfortable at all . Yeah you did it too on 02:29:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - which feels more comfy . See the suggestion above ^
3. 04:03:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It's really nice, and would be more nicer if you could reduce the spacing too instead . For me, 04:10:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rather fine regarding to the jumps, but would be nicer if it wasn't repeated too many in the similar places . Then, the placements getting really hard all of a sudden, started from 04:13:412 (1) - . As I stated before too, this way too much for being your "main star" because of the rhythm itself, it's calm than the others, and this jump really breaks the comparison over the sections in this map . See my suggestion above ^
4. 04:40:812 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - For an Insane like this, it's really uncomfortable to play such a stream . I know the music is getting intense, but consider to reduce the usage of circle here, and replace some of them with reversed kick slider instead . It goes same for 05:07:012 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I reduced the spacing here, I hope that would be better

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I'm sorry before..